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Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 12:56 pm  |  81 responses

Video: Garnett Ejected / Heinsohn: ‘The NBA, It’s Stupid!’

The NBA wasn’t kidding when it announced its new standards for issuing techs this past summer. Last night, Kevin Garnett first T’d for showing an official how a player had hit him, and then T’d again for laughing over the legitimacy of the first tech. Tommy Heinsohn, for one, isn’t a fan of the NBA’s ‘crack down’ on behavior.

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  • ripslam

    Those techs were bull. Seriously, the League is getting softer by the day.

  • Chris

    Cosign ripslam. The league is turning into a stoic joke.

  • http://slamonline.com niQ

    NBA – Where Emotions Don’t Happen.

  • Jumper

    This is rediculous! It’s going to take a stand from an influential figure to loosen these rules. I agree that it is necessary to tone down some of the grander antics some of these players employ, but not allowing a player to show any emotion after a call is ridiculous! My biggest concern is what if a player is reacting to his own actions (Say he’s mad at himself for committing a dumb foul etc) and the ref misinterprets that as a show of disrespect, whats gonna happen then? The player can go to the ref and explain that he wasnt directing it at him or he’ll get another tech and be ejected. Craziness I say

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Co sign everyone so far.. Lets hope this new rule doesn’t stick, much like that stupid (vollyball) basketball Stern tried to introduce…

  • onions baby onions

    If anyone was watching the toronto game in van-city last week where they blew out Phx, Reggie Evans got ejected for slapping a Phx player (forget who) on the ass (completely non-aggressively/good-naturedly). The Phx player was also ejected for reasons unkown. A few more of these situations and Stern’s gonna have to address some serious hate from fans.

  • http://www.justinmaller.com Justin

    This is absurd. Playing and competing emotions run high. The league seems to be trying to castrate itself; these are grown men caught up in the heat of the game.

    To try and rob them of their ability to express themselves is to rob the game of it’s sincerity and humanity. They are basketball players, not choir boys. Let them yell, let them fight. The league is taking this emasculation too far.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    This is what happens when you ask Joey Crawford for advice!

  • T-Money

    Players will get the message and adjust. Now is the perfect time to enforce the rules more strictly now because the games don’t matter. I’m all for it, it’s very annoying to see superstars b-tch about every call. You can pretty much guarantee that Kobe and Lebron will be ice grilling the ref whenever they miss a layup in traffic.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    is the year 1984?

  • Bryan

    The problem is you have guys making these new rules that probably have never played sports competively in their life…so they dont understand what its like in a game when your adrenaline is going making it easy to over react.

  • jtam101

    This is why Rasheed Wallace had to retire.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    t-money,
    punching the air in frustration also results in a T, whether or not it’s directed to a ref or another player. some of these rules are waaayyy too strict.

  • Robb

    @Bryan MTE.

  • JTaylor21

    TMoney is on point. It’s annoying to seeing players bit*hing and moaning about every single call even the ones that they know they committed. It has now trickled down to even regular street ball where every play there are at least 5 people calling fouls.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    True. Keep the game going, or I’ll throw the ball over the gate.

  • Papa Smurf

    cosign T-Money and JTaylor21.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Players do complain waaaay too much, esp bean n bron

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    i do agree about the complaining though. i dont mind the refs cracking down on that. however, i just want the refs (nba) to leave the emotional outbursts alone. like slapping the backboard after a dunk, players talking isht to each other, taunting, hitting the basket stand in frustration, etc.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    lets all gather together and pray this doesn’t carry into the regular season

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    …..funny I was just watching Sports Center seeing this dude Barry Melrose doing a play by play of a hockey fight that happened last night….talking about ‘…he took down one of the greatest fighters in the NHL. This has to be an early season favorite for the best fight of the year’……seriously???? I don’t get why when a hockey player starts fighting he’s being ‘tough’ and a good teammate, but when a basketball players starts even as much as arguing, he’s considered a ‘thug’ and the NBA has to clamp down on it?????…….lol, only a fool couldn’t see what the underlying issue is there…anyways

  • andynorstrom

    Lol @ jtam101

  • PapaBearATL

    I only played streetball growing up and the rule was ‘no blood, no foul’. I did play organized football though and the refs don’t catch everything, so you say, ‘blue, watch the facemask on #67′ and leave it at that. I was giving my wife hell the other day about B-ball not being a contact sport, this will reinforce that argument, lol. I hope this rule doesn’t stick but, I also hope the whining stops, as well. Yes, I know bball is a contact sport, I just like getting my wife revved up.

  • MusketeerX

    God I the hate Boston Celtics announcers. They were right, but they are ridiculous. I think Fraizer put it was best. We pay to see the greats play.

    I’m not a Boston fan by any means, but I wanted to see how the Knicks would stack up against the Celts…

    The ref ruined that, last night. Thank God there is another game on Saturday.

  • kb24mj23

    In regards to the hockey issue… Can you imagine catching a full on punch from someone like lebron with no pads and him being able to put his full weight behind the blow (not slipping on ice). That ish could kill somebody.I think this crackdown is excessive, but with the size and strength of NBA players, you gotta at least keep the game under control. Naw mean?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Just because somebody does something wrong doesn’t mean you get to enact idiotic rules.
    Stars complain too much? Well use the existing rules and issue techs. Be consistent, stop being a punks, don’t write a whole new set of rules that’s asinine because as I predicted, this is going to blow up come playoffs time when the league cracks down on the rules at a pivotal moment after letting stuff slide all season.

  • Jumper

    @Allen P for the WIN

  • JTaylor21

    AllenP, got a point. Like in Gm7 for the first 3 quarters the refs were letting both teams get physical with each other which benefited the celts most but as soon as the 4th quarter came around with the celts leading I remember saying to myself that the refs are going to do a 360 and start calling the game tighter to benefit the lakers. That’s exactly what happened and the lakers took like 21 FTs to the celts 6, that’s the thing that irks me about NBA officials, they do a great job overall but they are too inconsistent.

  • bdub

    With any sport you play all you can ask for is consistency in refereeing. You can get upset with certain rulings and interpretations but as long as it’s the same for both sides it’s all good. @JTaylor21 I’m never a fan of Boston or the Lakers but I noticed that too. That 4th quarter was ridiculous.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The NBA has a real kneejerk reaction to certain fan complaints.
    Like with fighting and complaining and stuff Stern is quick to make wholesale changes, but when it comes to refs and teams randomly deserting cities, he doesn’t say or do jack.
    It’s like the League is designed to funnel all negativity to the players while at the same time using their images to advance the brand.
    Fans have complained about the lack of tranparency in the referee corp for years, but now substantial changes have been made, but now we have these draconian rules about techs? In fact, the League has done something to address the tech issue for the past few years including increasing the fines and adding suspensions for a certain number of techs. I’m sure fans do complain, and it is annoying, but fans complain a lot more about bad refs, ticket prices and teams deserting cities.
    I should write something about this.

  • K

    @AllenP: Please do (write about this).

  • the nerve

    allen u aint writin sh.+

  • the nerve

    naw jus f*ckin w/u

  • EJ

    If the Lakers make the finals, Adam Morrison will be averging 30 minutes per game if this rule stays.

  • http://www.twiter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    Yeah Allen is right, not need to make all new rules. Kobe or Lebron or anyone else cries they get a warning. Cry again and they get a tech. Its that simple. You don’t have to outline every little saying and/or gesture that will cause a tech. Its funny they rescinded Perks tech last year when he walked away from the ref, then come up with this rule.

  • rainman10

    except Morrison doesn’t play for the Lakers.

  • vtrobot

    The fact that hockey is played in a (plexi-glass) cage allows that L to be comfortable with much higher levels of violence. You hardly ever see dudes, not named Tie Domi, ending up in the stands with the fans. Imagine if they had China/Brazilian-like brawls every week in the NBA? Courtside fans would be getting JVG’d all the time. You’ve already got fans complaining about a giant baby knocking off their kid’s hat during a game winner. They have gone waaay too far now and continue to increase the refs impact on the outcome of games. Basically they’re “fixing” a problem that no one really cares about while making worse the majority of NBA fans’ main gripe. Just fine them huge amounts, but don’t throw players out of games for getting upset about BS calls. More replay. Robot refs.

  • Papa Smurf

    hmmm . . . I think the different treatment given to hockey fights and basketball fights is based on race more than anything. That said, I think the NBA has treated fights properly, and the NHL has not. If I want to watch a fight, I’ll watch a boxing match. Fighting is just one more reason hockey sucks.

  • blackice87

    ITS STUPID!

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Sucks that its come to this.. I understand the whole whining about a call or non call.. But I like to see emotion, screaming after a nice block or dunk, to me, its part of the game.. Now a guy will get Teed-up for calling and1 after a shot.. They’re humans, not robots.. (I also think the dress code on the team plane is stupid).

  • Ghost

    Wrote a letter to the NBA this morning, not sure how much it will do, but I’m for sure not going to be buying tickets to a game if there’s a high probability the players I came to see won’t be there at the end of the game.

  • vtrobot

    @ Papa: Do you work for LeBron’s PR team? Like LBJ, I would agree that you can never totally exclude the possibility that race might factor into an issue, but this has far more to do with the proximity of the fans to the players. It’s not like pre-1950 NBA had a 2-minute minor and a 5-minute major penalty for fighting and then changed when it those w/o the right to fight arrived in the L.

  • Papa Smurf

    vtrobot,

    LeBron’s issue had little, if anything, to do with race. The reaction to LeBron was based on the fact that he was a douche bag to Cleveland’s organization. I can’t stand LeBron, and I can’t stand you. You are also a douche bag. You post one stupid comment after another on this site. Your posts might start to make more sense if you remove KG’s c0ck from your mouth before you start typing.

  • Mr Robinson

    AAAAAWWWWW SSSHHHEEEIIITTT!!!

  • feez22

    lol to be fair garnett gets away with some crazy shit sometimes but this is just ridiculous. The NBA where ejections for foolishness happens.

  • vtrobot

    @ Papa: I know that LBJ’s issue had little to do with race. I love how you and many other on this site come super hard with opinions but then fail to back them up with fact and start flexing internet muscles at the first sign of anyone disagreeing with them. Please tell why it’s because of race that there’s fighting in hockey and not basketball. I think my argument about the NBA not allowing fighting when it was all white was a pretty good point. What’s your argument that disproves it? I have a lot of respect for KG, but I love the game first and foremost, not just one team. Also, it’s when I’m giving KG a handy that I have trouble typing, not when I’m fellating him. Chill, man. Peace.

  • Papa Smurf

    Race has nothing to do with the reason “there is fighting in hockey and not basketball.” Fighting is not permitted in either sport. Race is the reason much of the sports media calls basketball players who fight “thugs”, while, at the same time, glorifying the fights hockey players get into. In turn, the sports medias’ commentary is the reason David Stern feels the need to punish fighting more harshly than the NHL commissioner feels the need to do so.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out @vtrobot.

  • Papa Smurf

    eat a d!ck philosopher

  • http://www.nba.com Gman

    Where stupid happens?!

  • ampd

    so this is weird? I dont know why ampd just popped up as my name and “APbubbasparxxx@yahoo.com is not my email addy

  • The Philosopher

    @Papa Smurf:
    Meh…
    Stop crying.

  • Papa Smurf

    Philosopher, I will stomp you worse than the Chinese National Team stomped that Brazilian.

  • The Philosopher

    OOOOOOHHHHHH!!

  • Papa Smurf

    KG don’t want no part of the Chinese National Team.

  • Papa Smurf

    . . . and neither do I.

  • Heals

    It was ridiculous last night and has been the whole preseason. Zarba has always been intimidated when reffing games involving the C’s, grow a pair an explain your BS calls. The C’s will lead the league in T’s easily, and they aren’t even being as demonstrative as they have been the past couple years. Damn I need to vent after watching stuff like that; same thing with E.Rush and Perkins last year. The worst part though is that Stern is nowhere to be seen or heard and always skates around the issue when it is brought up. But at least there will be a game in Brazil sometime soon; please get priorities straight. I know many players and NBA lovers have sworn by Stern’s in the past, but I dunno what his agenda has been these last 4 years, much more authoritarian. Is this still fallout from “The Palace” in a weird way, I just don’t get it?

  • vtrobot

    @ Philo: Shout out to you too. @ Papa: I don’t totally disagree with that point, but I also don’t agree that it plays a larger role than the proximity of the fans does. If Chris Kaman was grabbing Reggie’s nads, the media wouldn’t commend him ’cause he’s white. He’d be a thug like Reggie is. Does white America like to assume that everyone who looks like JR acts like JR? Yeah. But Bill Laimbeer was a thug too, while being pretty white. A big part of why you’re a thug if you fight in one sport and not in the other is because fighting is allowed in one and not in the other. You have to try to cut someone’s head off with your skate blade to be a thug in the NHL. I don’t disagree that rules like the dress code are about the L trying to make a product that appeals to middle (white) america. The potential involvement of NBA fans in the fights is the real reason. Ron Ron can be in your face in 3.5 seconds. Next time, try to remain calm for a little bit longer before suggesting c0ck-sucking. Or at least accuse me of being with my true love (Ray). Peace. Good night.

  • Papa Smurf

    We’re just going to have to disagree as to the primary reason for the rule differences.

  • http://slamonline.com Yknot

    I don’t care how much they complain, I don’t tune in to see Joey Crawford finishing on the break! Leave them out there and tell them to shut up and play.

  • http://slamonline.com Fut.

    Justin Maller commented on this. Depthcore knows no bounds of awesomeness.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Comcast sportsnet has taken down the video for copyright reasons. SMH…

  • t-sizzle

    why does the league the refs are god-like and have the ability to get every play right?? these players would react (a bit) less, if the refs actually get the calls right. techs should only be for full-blown outbursts a la sheed

  • CONEY ISLANDER

    LEBRON OR KOBE WILL GET TOSSED OUT OF TOO MANY GAMES, RICH FANS WILL COMPLAIN PROMPTING IMMEDIATE CHANGE, JUST YOU WATCH. SOON PLAYING DEFENSE WILL GET YOU T’D UP!

  • VisionofGreatness

    David Stern needs to chill out and cut back on this rule. Kyle Korver got a technical for simply throwing his hands up wondering why he was called for a foul. This game is about the players, not the refs and not David Stern. He continues to do things that he doesn’t need to do (The rule against wearing armbands past a certain point, the new ball that no one liked, etc.)

  • Lee

    Lebron and Kobe just need to stop being b*tches every time they don’t get a call or a call doesn’t go their way. If players would man up and stop complaining constantly, you wouldn’t get the similarly b*tchy fans writing in and complaining as well… Just another way in which MJ and the rest of the old school NBA was way more fun to watch than the NBA of today…

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    What about fights in baseball? Players can get in the stands very easily. What was that huge bench clearing brawl earlier this year when no one got ejected? Thats just good ol boys of summer. Ron artest got in kobes face cuz kobe elbowed him in his throat? Ron is a thug, should be suspended, should go to jail………….

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Joke’s on the ref, Garnett will devour his soul in hell.

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    This is going to be ridiculous during the regular season, so many players are going to get technicals all over the shop. I don’t want the players to adjust; expect this to come up in the CBA debates depending on how strictly it is enforced this season. There have already been so many people ejected during the freaking pre-season.

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    as much as it pains me to say, THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME IM COMPLETELY WITH THOSE STUPID BOSTON ANNOUNCERS, I EVEN APLAUD THE COURAGE OF THE HOMER TO SAYING LIKE IT IS..its stupid, the man told the truth!

  • add

    they need to encourage more physicality and toughness not make em weaker

  • flipnoyce

    Seriously!!!! Another way for Sterns goons of Refs to make more money, Stern might be using the Don’t Ask Don’t tell Policy,to hide his true scheme bets ANYONE!!!

  • Maya Laku

    ^ Exactly! Put hand checking back! Make the post players stay in the post for more than 3 seconds! Make it into the league it was back in the day! Where people played their heart out with emotion!

  • robert

    yeah it is totally the most ridiculously an dumbest f*ucking rule I have ever heard of sports with out emotions well its no longer considered a sport.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jtrain73 Jono

    I can imagine KMart getting T’d up for screaming after a put-back dunk for the game-winner over the Celtics during game 7 of the 2011 NBA Finals.

  • JD

    the league is getting stupid, David Stern is getting ancient

  • http://nba.com/cavaliers Stephon

    That was some serious bull. The NBA is getting softer and softer each and everyday.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    vtrobot and Papa Smurf’s back and forth was kind of funny to read. Papa Smurf’s comment at 4:25 pm was on point though. Shout out @ the two of you, AND Philosopher.

  • jake

    This is just part of a whole social issue in the U.S.A. – don’t complain to the police anymore either even though as a citizen you have (supposedly or used to anyway) rights to know what is going on and discuss. AUTHORITY is winning and officials in the NBA rarely make mistakes (yeah, right) so welcome Big Brother to the NBA…

  • BostonBaller

    I believe it was Grant Hill and Reggie Evans who got ejected for almost nothing. WOW, I stay away from SLAM for a short time nd come back to guys almost coming to blows. LOL. I eject 3 of you…

  • FEARtheDEER

    wish someone would replace stern asap

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