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Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 at 10:05 am  |  89 responses

Video: Delonte West T’d Up for Giving Gordon Hayward a ‘Wet Willie’

“I saw some lint in his hair, and I wanted to get it out for him.”



A clearly frustrated Delonte West earned himself a technical foul during the Mavericks/Jazz game in Utah last night, in one of the more unique ways imaginable. West gave Gordon Hayward a “wet willie”, and gave some pretty hilarious answers when asked about it by reporters in the locker room following the game (via the Salt Lake Tribune, Star-Telegram and Dallas Morning News): “I went over the line,’ West said. ‘I saw some lint in his hair, and I wanted to get it out for him. Seriously, we were like two warriors out there. But I forgot the NBA is a gentlemen’s game. They want us to battle and scrap, but they want us to do it nicely.’ [...] ‘I was giving him a wet willie. That’s all.’ Asked about possibly receiving a fine or a suspension from the NBA, West said: ‘We are two warriors. We’re out here battling on the battlefield. I forgot the NBA is a gentleman’s game, so we have to fight and scrap and do it nicely. Everything is left on the court, though.’ [...] ‘You get caught up in the emotions and it’s physical. You get caught in the moment sometimes.’ Asked if he was expecting a fine from the NBA, he said: ‘If they do, they do. If they don’t, they don’t. It’s just part of the game,’ he added. ‘I’m not disappointed in anything. We play as players and the refs ref. Everyone’s doing their best.’ West said he’s well aware of the line the NBA has drawn in terms of player conduct on the court. ‘The fines and stuff they put in place the last couple years, that line is like jumping off a cliff,’ he said.”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    delonte: “u better have my dOnutz!”

  • Marc

    lmfaoo i thought it was a real wet willie reading the title.

  • Marc

    And i hate bias announcers.

  • Ngoie Kafita

    Delonte is such a master! All heads must bow…

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    One finger mush. Still classic. And the replays never showed what happened up the court to make Delonte upset. You know something happened.

  • ALD

    he suffers from bi polar disorder

  • http://Www.achtamsterdam.nl Phil

    I don’t kboe if I should be prooud of Hayward for reacting that way, or ashamed. I mean…it’s the smart move, but he’s also getting punked.

  • MUBWAR

    this was so awkward live.

  • Danno

    Back to Home Depot during the suspension ?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @Phil – Hayward got the final punk by winning the game.

  • Well DAMN

    I was expecting to laugh at this video. Misleading title.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    He won a game. It’s a basketball game. How is that a “win” in life?

  • Mr. West

    he gave LeBrons mom ‘the real wet willy’

  • Do Work

    this announcer is the lowest of the low…what a whiner

  • Top$helf

    You can’t let another grown man just stick his finger in your ear and walk away you at least gotta fake like you’re mad and want to retaliate knowing that your teammates will hold you back

  • bike

    That’s actually a pretty awesome putdown. Harmless, yet very degrading.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    It’s funny that people think this was a wet willy. It was clearly a one finger mush common in black neighborhoods across the country. The one finger mush is used to express intense disdain, and a lack of respect. Unlike the full hand mush, it implies that the mushee is a true punk and beneath the musher.
    This is where media diversity is important. lol.

  • Mike Mihalow

    Good job, Delonte. That 1 point cost your team the game. Idiot.

  • AQWORD

    Delonte West 4 president.

  • thetalkingcomb

    First of all, Delonte West is the ugliest motherf’r (sorry Bron) in the history of sport. His face looks like a crescent moon (full of holes too) that was run over by a steamroller. He makes Lady Gaga’s pubic hair look like Jessica Alba.

    Secondly, that was some funny sh*t!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    SMH, this surely isn’t the first time, nor will it be the last, that Delonte has stuck his finger is someone’s orifice.

  • Tempest

    Thug Life! Delontes a tad jealous tho cause Haywards going places in the league

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    that wasn’t a wet willie, I was ready to laugh my a** off.

  • http://www.nba.com Saviour

    West loses the game for DM…nice work buddy hahaha

  • http://www.google.com/news BETCATS

    That’s strange as f*** but how is it the ‘lowest of lows’? Delonte didn’t pull a Kermit Washington or anything.

  • shm

    Grow up Slick.

  • giptheclip

    tempest is right.

  • giptheclip

    never thought slam mag was one for censoring. lames.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Hahahha. I love both players. I love both their expressions(or lack there of for Hayward). I always want to do sh*t like Delonte does(minus biking with a shotgun in a guitar case and stuff). I also always want to be the bigger man like Hayward was. Good stuff all around.

  • MELO

    hilarious but how does Delonte still get calls from teams every summer but Iverson doesnt?

  • T-Money

    i have to co-sign allenp on this, the index on someone is basically saying “you’re not about to do sh– to me”. lakeshow – hayward was not trying to be the bigger man about this lolol, he wasn’t starting ANYTHING with dwest EVER.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    You think because D-West is loco, that Hayward doesn’t want none? Bahh. That’s everyones favorite guy to fight. They crazy one that has so much anger built up that he can’t keep his head level and cool enough to remember what the right thingt to dop is. Try pulling that sh*t to on Hayward’s momma, then you’ll see a ass-whuppin by the young man. You gotta check your priorities. Your a professional athlete. You are paid to play basketball. He doesn’t want a fine because he’s still on rookie salary and a tech coulda (did) lost(lose)the game for the team that gets a T in that situation.
    The bigger man is going to walk away. That’s how I was brought up anyway. If you think he should have punched Delonte… That’s on you. We are birds of a different feather if that’s the case.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Geez I gotta spell check myself before I wreck myself.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Allenp: From one student of the mush to another–does the one-finger mush usually target the ear canal or can one deliver said mush anywhere on the enemy’s countenance?

  • ricky bobby

    Who need all dem refs and sh*t? We dont need nobody tellin us how to behave. If some fool poss you off den you get him. Dat de way of de street. All lees fools need to start seein thangs our way. We don need no civilization. De man who can fight is de man who is right.

  • http://chicagotribune.com Diesel

    @Allen – Do I really need to explain to you how a win for a team trying to make the playoffs in a “basketball game” which just happens to be their career is important? Or how dumb ass Delonte West caused his team a loss and a match up with OKC first round which is almost a certain first round exist? So you think Delonte won something “in life” by pushing his finger into the ear of a guy that wasn’t looking? If that’s a win in your life you must have a pathetic life. “Congratulations Delonte, you could be fined $25k but damnit, you got your finger in his ear good!” You’re an idiot Allen.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Diesel…. lmao.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Teddy…LMAO. “student of the mush.” What a great band name.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Teddy
    I think he was trying to catch the side of his face and his aim was off. That’s how the ear got involved. The side of the face is a favorite target for mushing.
    Diesel
    Neither team is winning anything whether they get to the playoffs or not. If you watch the replay, Hayward and West have an altercation on one end that continues down the court. West takes exception and pushes him on the face. Hayward decides to pretend like he has no idea what this guy’s problem is and walk away.
    It’s not that big of a deal. The game went to three overtimes. That one point was not the deciding factor. It happened in the second FREAKING QUARTER!
    Y’all need to be real. Like getting a tech is the worst possible thing in the world to do in a game in the second quarter.
    Ok, cool.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Hahaha. Too many good laughs on this site. Keeps me coming back for more.

  • OTB

    Lol at people acting as if Delonte’s the man cause he gave another player a wet willie. He was just getting mad Hayward was busting his a@@ on the court. I have more respect for Hayward for simply walking away…that is a man who does his job well – why cost your team a point with a technical or by getting kicked out of the game retaliating?

    Players used to get like this with Ginobili when he was busting on guys, and on Dirk (David West comes to mind). Not every holds that mentality that you have to retaliate. Hayward is a bigger man for walking away and not getting pulled into Delonte’s moronic tactics.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Cosign Welldamn @1047…

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Complex magazine says that Delonte called Hayward a “p*ssy a)ss white boy” as he mushed him.
    Yep, my theory was correct.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Shout out to Off the BBall Board.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I have no problem with the two players having an altercation, Delonte reacting the way he did, or Hayward choosing to play dumb the way he did. If you’re playing basketball competitively, you’re always taught to let your game do the talking and the ultimate payback is getting the win. Which is what Hayward did. I find it funny that grown men think Delonte somehow came out on top in this equation because he muched the guy’s ear. You even said he came out on top IN LIFE! Hayward is a rising star in this league…10 years from now he’ll be worth about $100 million, will be sitting around with his friends talking about “remember when that crazy guy put his finger in my ear? What was his name?” Meanwhile, Delonte will be freshly fired from his furniture gig, homeless, warming himself by a dumpster fire. But he can rest assured that Hayward is beneath him in life because he managed to get his finger square in his ear canal.

  • OTB

    ^ I’m a big fan of Hayward…he reminds me of a young Ginobili. Can’t wait till he’s out of Utah.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I undecided on Hayward’s game. He shows flashes of brilliance, but he needs to work on his 3 point shooting and ball handling. He is a pretty talented guy who can be something along the lines of of 20ppg, 6 rebounds, 4 assists. He needs to work on his 1 on 1 Defense also. He tries, but he’s not very laterally quick for the 2 guard position.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    What was your theory there Allen? Hate crime?

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    My comments was in response to your belief that somehow Hayward got the final punking by winning the game. I’ve never celebrated what West did, just pointed out that it wasn’t a wet willy as it has been described.
    But I also don’t think Hayward was the bigger man or won at life because he walked away. He engaged in cheap shot and altercations then pretended to be above it all when West let him know he didn’t appreciate it. To me, that’s shady and walking away wasn’t an act of strength but of cowardice. I don’t subscribe to the hit someone when no one is watching and then pretend to be innocent school of thought.
    Finally, Delonte has a mental illness. You are probably right that he will end up hard up in life as far as money. People with mental illness often have that problem. If the fact that Delonte’s mental illness will likely lead to future hardship is proof that Hayward made the right decision in your opinion, then so be it.
    I think Hayward is blessed not to have a mental illness.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    He called him a name. I can see Hayward taking offense. A hate crime involves criminal actions. Nothing criminal occurred here.
    Most likely West lashed out like most people by attacking the person he was upset with in a hurtful manner. That’s how most bigoted comments are made.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_dfrance dfrance21

    Do mush styles vary by region? Here in the northeast, we’re more connoisseurs of the 4 finger mush with the thumb tucked.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    dfrance, You see, it’s funny, cause i’m a big “bi*ch slap” proponent. Huge fan of the full 5 fingered slap. To each his own.
    Who said Hayward got the bigger “punking”? He won the game. A game. Not life. You don’t “punk” people by winning. You stick wet willies in ears if you want to punk someone. There is no winning at life, in a game. It just so happens that this game is also their job and they are professionals at this job. Their job is not to wet willie or walk away from each other. Their only duty is to play ball. And win. Neither man won by “mushing” or by walking away. It was the right thing to do, to walk away, rather than escalate the circumstances by Hayward though.
    I don’t know that we can blame his bipolar disorder for this. He defended his actions afterward. I don’t have a problem with what he did, because the game escalates like that, but i’m not going to pretend that his mental illness caused him to do this, then have him talk about how GH is a “p****a**b****.” He has anger issues in addition to his Bi-Polar disorder it appears. Unless he didn’t take his meds you can’t blame this on his mental illness. You can, but it’s a cop out.

  • bike

    Some western native american tribes taunt rival tribes with yelping/howling like a coyote. You could call it no contact coyote mushing. Any rate, it would be cool if Delonte started doing that.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    bike, funny you mention…
    I had my junior high team do a play that involved one of the kids on all fours barking like a dog to distract the team while my player bounced in the out of bounds pass off of the other teams players back and put in a easy lay in for the win. I felt kinda terrible, and awesome after that play… Hmmm, still don’t know if that was a “good” basketball play lol. Got the win though baybay :)

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Diesel said that in his first comment. Scroll up.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    I didn’t blame his mental illness for this, although I don’t rule it out.
    I was talking about Diesel’s belief that in ten years Hayward will be kicked back enjoying the good life while Delonte will be a bum begging for quarters.
    Could be true, but it won’t be because of this, it will be because of some other factors.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Agree to that. It’s definitely not a sure thing for either gentlemen. Delonte could go on to play another 6+ years in the League and make himself 30+ mill and be just fine for the rest of his life. Hayward could become injured or have a psychotic break himself and go no where in life.
    This was a emotional response during competition between two males. I’m not surprised or disappointed, but I do have more respect for Hayward than Delonte after that incident. Do you know how hard it is to walk away from another man whom is trying to incite you? It’s incredibly hard, and bodes well for Hayward that he has the diligence to just walk away in a circumstance like that. Sounds to me like you might actually have more respect for Delonte. Which is fine, I just don’t understand it. DW took things to an extra-circular platform while Hayward did his best to keep it civil and not become any sort of a distraction for his team.
    Also do you have any video proof of Hayward inciting something earlier in the game or are you just assuming that something must have occured?

  • Jerome

    @Diesel: You’re comment about West ending up homeless shows you weren’t brought up right. Maybe your perents tried, but you were too busy feelin’ yourself to notice. West was wrong to do what he did, but I don’t think he did it for nothing. At least he kept it out of the media, whatever happened.

  • AiRsMiTh

    Looks like some commenters are having an “altercation” of their own. I find it amusing and perhaps a little sad that people are here commenting about how Hayward is a punk. You people sound so macho and tough like D-lo I guess, and clearly are above everyone who thinks Gordon did the right thing by walking away.
    I guess Gordon didn’t think it was worth getting into it with someone over; worth getting upset and putting the game in jeopardy, especially considering Utah is fighting tooth and nail to get into the playoffs like they should be doing.
    I didn’t watch the game, but apparently he won it for them so kudos to him. The “coward” won I suppose. Funny, huh? I don’t even like the Jazz at all, and I hope they don’t receive my Warrior’s lottery pick! All of this being said though, however, I wouldn’t want to fight Delonte West. Lol, dude is crazy and built and I bet he’s whooped some ass back in his day. He tried fighting Von Wafer when he was in Boston. Guy’s a bit of a loose cannon, and I applaud Gordon for handling it the way he did. I don’t think he’s a coward (though perhaps his long hair and babyface would make you like to believe he is), and he ended up winning the game, but if I were ever to put money on someone to win a West-Hayward grudge match (fight), I’d definitely put my money on Mr. West. I respect both of them. I wish I had watched it now since people seem to be saying Hayward was cheap-shotting throughout the game; as if Delonte wasn’t… and he clearly bumped him prior to the “wet willie” that I came here to see.

  • T-Money

    lakeshow – where did you get that i was implying he should punch delonte? there are tons of options between punching someone and walking away like you have absolutely no clue why someone is trying to confront you. that’s not being the bigger man at all. on another note, a b-tch slap is kinda risky – it may very well get you shot. to me, if you’re b-tch slapping someone, you have to be prepared for things to escalate well past the point of no return. the index gives you more leeway before setting a definitve course of action depending on the other party’s reaction.

  • KB

    West calls GH a “b–ch white boy. Think of the suspension GH would have received had he called Delonte West a racial slur?

  • T-Money

    considering that delonte lives from check to check while in the league, there is sadly no doubt in my mind that he will be broke after his career.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Airsmith
    It’s cowardice to provoke a reaction and then pretend to be innocent.
    You probably think that’s good strategy. If you think Delonte just went wild on Hayward for no reason, then what can I say? You probably don’t know jack.
    They had a beef. Some blows were exchanged, which you can even see on the replay. Delonte responded how he responded. I never said it was “smart” or “brave” I said it was what it was.
    What I called cowardice was pretending like he didn’t know what happened. Just like everyone who does that in the NBA. It’s stupid and I hate it. I hated it when Rodman did it. I don’t like it when Artest does it. But most people think that’s all cool.
    I disagree.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    “…a b-tch slap is kinda risky – it may very well get you shot. to me, if you’re b-tch slapping someone, you have to be prepared for things to escalate well past the point of no return. the index gives you more leeway before setting a definitve course of action depending on the other party’s reaction.”
    This sounds like a man well-versed in contemplating the potential for violence. That’s real life.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    LOL, I have never slapped a person before. If I did I would expect to have my ass kicked.
    That’s your “real life” I guess. I have only been in 2 fights in my life. So in my “real life” physical violence isn’t a top option.
    1. Don’t flirt with my girlfriend. Sh*t went down.
    2. I got blindsided, brass knuckle punched for absolutely no reason. I was by myself, and their was this dude and 20 of his friends. I walked away just like Hayward did after this. I spit my teeth and blood on his shoes and then just slowly walked away and figured if they wanted to keep coming after me then I would have to fight, but you do what is smart. It was prudent for me to walk away. They didn’t follow me which was good because I wouldn’t be here today.
    Soooooo… Any video of Hayward provoking Delonte?
    T-Money, Allen: So what should Hayward have done in your professional opinions?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @Jerome, how does my comment show I wasn’t brought up right? Delonte has already been in the league for years and made millions, yet when the NBA went into lock-out mode, he himself he had to take a job as a furniture delivery guy so that he could pay the bills. That makes me think he’s bad with money management and its not crazy to think he’ll end up broke once he can’t rely on basketball anymore. I don’t think his action towards Hayward has a direct effect on him being broke at the end of his career. That was my response to people saying Delonte won IN LIFE because he mushed Hayward. Hayward is on to bigger and better things and doesn’t need to worry about Delonte.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Haywood was not being the “bigger man” . . . he didn’t want any part of DWest, which is fine, but let’s call it like it is.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Hayward elbows him in the face or head.
    Watch the clip people. As soon as it starts, rebound comes off. Hayward tries to run out. Delonte jumps in from him to slow him down, grabs his jersey.
    Hayward swings through with an elbow and appears to hit Delonte. They run down the court jostling. Delonte pushes him with a forearm. Hayward flops for the call. Delonte mushes him.
    It’s all in the clip.

  • bike

    Whatever view one takes on this I know one thing for certain: If Delonte stuck his finger in my ear I would bolt for the shower big time. You just don’t know where that digit has been recently.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Can we stop with the Hayward didn’t want any part of Delonte stuff? This is the NBA, outside of Kermit Washington, nobody gets a good hit in on anyone. There’s some shoving and then it gets broken up. Nobody is worried about getting beat up on the basketball court. Everyone’s a tough guy when 8 people are breaking you up. Hayward didn’t retaliate because they were standing right in front of a ref and he knew he’d get the technical. One player didn’t have the mental strength to control his actions in front of the refs, the other did. Plain and simple. And I think it’s a stretch to call that move going out of frame at the beginning of the clip an elbow. To me it looks like Delonte grabs his arm and Hayward aggressively pulls it loose.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Bike, FTW.
    Your right AP, I had to start it from the very beggining and watch closely, but your correct he hits him somewhere in the neck area. I couldn’t tell if it was on accident. It looked pretty hard to be on accident. Delonte did take it to the next level. It looks as if Hayward is trying to just get back down the court and Delonte is trying to stop his movement. Doesn’t mean it was okay to put his bow in his face, but Delonte is asking for that if he’s trying to stop the offensive player from moving on the court by putting his face and body into him.
    Either way what it comes down to is neither man “won” between the two. Hayward showed ability that many men don’t have, and that is, to walk away. That is great thing to have from a guy on your team. Delonte showed he isn’t scared of anyone…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    It’s hard to tell Diesel. The frame disappears before you can see what they were doing. There was obviously a hit on Delonte from Hayward it just didn’t look like that was Hayward’s plan.
    It makes me laugh that some people are saying that he wanted “no piece of DW”. We have no idea how each person would do physically in a fight. Like someone said earlier, if it’s GH baby face that makes you think that you are sorely mistaken.
    Gingers are some of the best fighters on earth.
    True Story.

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    I didn’t say Delonte was innocent.
    I said they were both involved in something, one player pretended he didn’t know what was going on.
    That’s it. It wasn’t a “smart move.” It was a slick move. Some people like that. Cool.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Red

    Man those announcers were annoying.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Definitely smart though. It’s smart on every level.
    A. Getting his ass kicked
    B. Getting a technical
    c. Losing the game for your team
    The wet willie was the slick move lol.

  • Waggle

    From the video I didn’t see him wet his finger, thus it wasn’t a wet willie.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^A willie none the less!^
    Or “smush” or a “mush” whatever have you.

  • Jerome

    @Diesel: “Meanwhile, Delonte will be freshly fired from his furniture gig, homeless, warming himself by a dumpster fire. But he can rest assured that Hayward is beneath him in life because he managed to get his finger square in his ear canal.” The latter quote shows almost as much racism/placism as the announcers in the attached clip. You wouldn’t even know about West’s “condition” if not for SLAM coverage. Again, whatever lead to the mush is not in the media and that is because West and Hayward know it stays on the court. I applaud West for doing an honest job for honest pay during the lockout. How many Superstars would consider that below them? Probably 99 per cent. Oops, I forgot, money (and the ability to save it) makes you a good person.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    Allen, I’m not really going to get into this, but this doesn’t sound like your logical self. You’ve jumped to a lot of conclusions which you usually don’t do. Delonte has attacked other players in the league, and he has a history of skipping his meds. I don’t know why you’d just assume Hayward did something to start it. He could have, but to just assume he did something isn’t right. I watched what you said and I couldn’t see anything about elbows, or flopping. This is jostling for position you see in EVERY game.
    I must ask, why are you going so hard to protect West on this one?

  • windowlicker_son

    Why do you all think Gordon would get his ass kicked by Delonte? Tats and piercings make someone tough? Gordon is 5 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier.

  • AiRsMiTh

    @Allenp Lol, why are you insulting me? Did I clearly refer to you? Did I use your name in my comment as you did mine? I’m not mad at you or anything or trying to insult you or say you , in PARTICULAR, are wrong, lol, my comment had nothing to do with you at all.
    Your comment was probably just one of the ones that I read before commenting. Just because you used the word coward, and I used the word coward does not mean I was taking a shot at you. If anything I was referring to all people who were here arguing about whether Hayward is this or that, or whether he is right or wrong, or West is wrong. All I was trying to highlight was how people were calling Hayward a punk or coward, though I’m sure most of the people on here making that comment don’t personally know him yet they deem him cowardly or less than a man based on this one incident, or because of the way he looks DESPITE KNOWING SO LITTLE ABOUT HIM, yet they pass judgement upon him.
    Are you saying that I am a coward, just because I used “coward” in my comment? You assumed I was taking a shot at you, however, let me make it abundantly clear that I was not taking a shot at anyone. I just am perplexed how the majority of people can so easily pass judgement on another, and make statements so negatively about a person they don’t know. They passed judgement based on ONE incident essentially. I don’t understand why everyone feels that all their comments have to be a statement about who they are, or who other people are. I suppose people can’t make casual comments, because anything someone says has to be a statement that reflects who they are as a person.
    If a man is convicted of stealing, does that make him a thief? What if that was the only time in his life he stole something, and his reason was nothing more than the fact that he was desperate. I certainly would not consider him a thief, however, if he had been in trouble multiple times with the law for stealing, then I suppose I would believe him to be a thief. In this incident people called Gordon a coward based on the fact that he walked away, without taking into consideration the fact that it was a close game, a game that was important to the Jazz because they are trying to break into the playoffs, and the possibility that perhaps, just perhaps he walked away so he could remain in the game without hurting his team. He didn’t feel compelled by how others would perceive him for walking, he didn’t feel compelled to be selfish and let his ego get in the way.
    Do you belief that I condone cowardice? I don’t, I wasn’t even slamming West. I never even claimed Gordon to be the innocent party in this incident, and Delonte the guilty one. I read what Delonte had to say about the incident, and I believe both are guilty. He said it himself that he believed they were both “warriors” “battling one another. I never took a side, I only commented how sad it is that people can make judgements so rashly and instantaneously.
    Upon reviewing my comment, I can see how you could see that I was taking a shot at you, since I used quotation marks around coward, however I was just using a word that I knew someone had used to represent the majority of how people felt. If I ever want to make a comment about someone in particular, I address them directly as I have. I’m sorry if you felt insulted by my comment, that was not my intention.

  • AiRsMiTh

    @windowlicker It’s not that I think that Gordon has 0 chance if they were to both fight, I only commented that I’d put my money on Delonte because he has a history of altercations, and I believe that people who have histories of violence are people who probably haven’t lost too many fights. That’s my only reason, and I definitely think it’s within the realm of possibility for Gordon to beat him. It’s just I’ve never heard of him fighting before, or being a physical and tough player who looks for fights. So naturally I’m going to assume someone who has been in fights and does not ever seem to show any sign of fear to beat someone who could possibly not be very much of a brawler.

  • bike

    So Lakeshow, basically you’re soft? Haahahhaa

  • Lan

    By the way, Football(Soccer) is the gentleman’s game. Plus I did not understand what Delonte West was saying in his interview

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai I didn’t assume. I watched the freaking video. Watch the video. I outlined exactly what happened. All you have to do is watch it from the beginning.
    And Airsmith if I attacked you unprovoked then I apologize.

  • http://minusthebars.blogspot.com don

    I knew the mention of LeBron’s mom would be somewhere in this thread. Y’all have a problem letting ANYTHING go, I see…

  • http://sfjklf.com Jukai

    I watched the video, Allen. You’re making this ish up. There was never an elbow, just Delonte trying to tangle Hayward up and Hayward pushing off with his left arm. This happens almost every time two players run down the court. I mean, almost EVERY time, there are two players extending their arms to block the other players.
    Maybe Delonte was PO’d that after he bumped Hayward, Hayward wobbled back, but c’mon man… There was no ‘visible’ reason for Delonte to punk Hayward like that. Maybe something happened off camera, maybe Hayward said something, but from what I see, the same thing that happens on every single basketball play happened then (NO elbow, a minor flop) and Delonte freaked out and mushed Hayward.
    You’re seeing what you want to see. And I don’t even know WHY you want to see this, unless you like Delonte or hate Hayward.

  • Ali

    blasphemy in the view of mormons, theyre acting like he kicked him in the balls or something

  • aaaà

    He didn’t even turn around he just raised his arms and walked away. If he actually wanted to fight he would have at least turned around and looked at him.
    For the record, I think he did the right thing, though.

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