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Saturday, September 8th, 2012 at 1:18 pm  |  105 responses

Reggie Miller’s Hall Of Fame Speech (VIDEO)

Admits he pushed off on Greg Anthony and Michael Jordan.

Universally loved and despised by basketball fans and players alike, Reggie Miller closed Friday’s Hall of Fame induction ceremonies with a funny, touching tribute. Reggie let MJ and Greg Anthony know he indeed pushed off in two of the more memorable moments in NBA Playoff history; said he was excited to be inducted with “Silk” Wilkes, who had a similarly awkward shot; reminisced on playing pick-up against Magic at UCLA’s Pauley Pavilion; and recounted how large of an influence his sister, Cheryl, had on his career.

Well done, Reggie.

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  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Steve Kerr didn’t like that “little” comment. hahaha

  • Guest

    Every once in a while, a basketball video brings a tear to my eye. This is one of them.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    That was awesome! Congrats to Reggie on this well-deserved accolade. Not gonna lie, that part when he thanks his sister made me tear up. Cheryl Miller is such a cool lady.

  • Justin G.

    Reggie in the Hall of Fame just brings the criteria down a notch. Terrible

  • Mr. Wet

    This guy deserved to be there. Good speech too.

  • Kevin

    Agreed. Im still not sold he deserves to be in the HOF. If he got in then damnit Mitch Richmond deserves SERIOUS consideration. Just sayin though

  • PnoyVibe

    Congrats to him.

  • The Philosopher

    Oh, and Reggie Miller definitely deserves the call to the Hall.
    3rd best shooting guard of all time.
    Made people believe that the game is never over.
    And the “guest” with the pyramid is I.

  • Hightz

    He should have apologized to the knicks killing them in the playoffs all those years…..lol

  • M Cho

    Agree he definitely deserves HOF status, but 3rd best SG all time? Over the Logo? Or Clyde? Not sure he deserves that spot…or that he even ranks over current SGs like Ray Allen or Wade.

  • The Philosopher

    The thing is, in Jerome’s day, we all know how different things were, as compared to now.
    We must take into account the speed of the game, the physicality of the game, etc.
    Also, Reggie is bigger, stronger, has the range. Better all around scorer, who played in a superior era to West’s.
    As for the other great shooting guards, they may be more athletic, faster, and what have you. But what makes Miller better than them is, his killer instinct. One of the more clutch players in NBA History.
    Underrated defender. Underrated passer. Best of all time coming off screens, a skill in which Miller greatly helped bring into the limelight.
    Allen has had a tendency to shrink in big moments. Clyde did, as well.
    At the end of the day, it may very well be all about preference.

  • Ugh

    Don’t argue with The Philosopher. Hell, don’t even listen to The Philosopher.

  • Ugh

    Cheryl Miller is awesome. CHEST BUMP ON YOU, BARKLEY!

  • http://twitter.com/jay258064 jay jay

    shout out to the miller family they look and sound like good ppl

  • M Cho

    Jerry Alan West is the name. Not Jerome. You lost me right away when you fronted about his name.

  • The Philosopher

    Ha!
    I know that his name is Jerry… for who doesn’t right?
    Jerome is a name that I call him. It sounds cooler than Jerry.
    And I know that I have a valid argument.

  • Ismael

    Mitch fucking Richmond?!?!?! Pleeeease!?!?! He was not half as clutch as Reggie. Has not hit any big shots worth remembering. He was just a scorer on bad teams.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mitya.yakushkin Mitya Yakushkin

    Damn, now Marv Albert gets to say “alongside hall of famer Reggie Miller” and TNT are never gonna fire that fool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    I would have thought Lauren Jackson was the best women’s basketball player ever.. anyway did Cheryl and Lauren ever go at it ??

  • spit hot fiyah

    totally agree, specially clyde, he was murder, and his numbers are way better than miller. and he has a ring as well

  • shutup

    Big moments? How many chips does Miller have? Revisionist history at its best, not saying Miller wasn’t clutch but Rex Chapman has hit as many last second game winners and has the same number of championships

  • The Philosopher

    Understood.
    But Miller is known for his exploits when it matters. In the lights of the Playoffs.
    And I will agree with Joe Bird, when he once said that Miller isn’t/wasn’t tough enough to win a ring. That’s o.k. Many players who have not won a ring still are worthy of the call, you don’t agree?
    Charles, Patrick, Karl, along with others?
    Charles was clutch, and still didn’t win a ring. Charles didn’t have many big moments?

  • Caboose

    1. How is a player who only averaged over 23 ppg once and never more than 25 ppg for a season a better scorer than a guy whose career average is 27 ppg?
    2. Reggie’s claim to fame is his 3 point shooting and “clutchness.” If that’s all it takes, I expect to see Peja Stojakovic in the hall too.
    3. For a laugh, look at Reggie’s stats in Close-Out Playoff games. Not just him having good performances in Game 3′s and 4′s. Robert Horry did that, but Reggie’s close out stats are absolutely pathetic.
    4. Reggie’s defense was atrocious. He never broke 3 defensive win shares on a season. Jerry was substantially better on that end. For a modern day comparison, Reggie’s defensive is comparable to Jameer Nelson.
    5. Third best SG of all time? I’ll try to go in order: Jordan, Kobe, Jerry, Drexler, Wade, Gervin, Maravich, Ray, Reggie. He’s struggling to crack the top 10 in my book.
    So give me an actual reason other that BS clutchness to justify Reggie’s placement as a Hall of Famer.

  • Caboose

    Hitting “big shots” (in Game 3′s) makes someone a Hall of Famer? Rashard Lewis, Rick Fox, and Eddie House need consideration then.

  • The Philosopher

    1. Again, West played in an inferior era. Guys were part – time bartenders back then.
    2. Peja isn’t clutch. Never has been. Especially in Playoff competition.
    3. Reggie is known to trip players during drives. Causing turnovers, which gives his team an extra posession based on those tactics. He would occasionally garner a legitimate steal every once in a while… He put forth an effort on defense. Not saying he’s an All Defensive caliber player. I would never say that…
    4. And other than the powers that be electing him as justification, he is an olympian, made multiple all star appearances, and helped revolutionize the screen game.
    His ability to come off screens, and be as effective as he was is unprecedented. Influenced a many a player after him. (Hamilton, Allen.)
    And his clutch is NOT “bs”.
    THAT’S why he is a legitimate Hall of Fame player.

  • The Philosopher

    Also, let’s take a look at West. Really look at many of those guys he was playing with/against. They were playing in slow motion. You and I can guard a few of those guys. Not discrediting their skill level of back then, for they were very sound, fundamentally. Moreso back then, as opposed to today in many cases.
    I know it’s wrong to do this, but think about what Miller may have done in those days, and think about West, and what he may have done today.
    I mean…

  • The Philosopher

    And in defense of Miller not winning a ring;
    Who was the best player he’s ever played with?
    Chuck Person? Ron Artest? Smits?
    He never had anyone.
    Ever.
    The best point guards he’s ever played with were Mark Jackson, and Vern Fleming. Jerome Richardson?
    The best shot he had was, when Bird was his coach.
    West has multiple Hall of Fame guys on his watch. Wilt, Baylor, all of those guys.
    One ring…
    Clyde didn’t win until he went to sleep, an had a Dream. Ray didn’t win without any Hall of Fame players. Wade hasn’t won without Hall of Fame players on his watch, either.

  • Dagger
  • The Philosopher

    Dagger with the brilliant save…
    Never seen that article until this very moment.
    Agree with Mark Jackson, who has witnessed firsthand, many of Miller’s exploits. And has witnessed the exploits of many of the great players of all time.

  • shutup

    You do Smits a disservice, in his prime a top ten center in the league. Maybe you never heard of a pg called Marc Jackson? Ron Artest was a beast when he played in Indiana. The Davis’ were also one of the toughest front lines in basketball.

  • Caboose

    You didn’t address Reggie’s absolute failures in ACTUAL clutch moments though. Watch:
    1994: 25 points in 4th Quarter of Game 5. Lost next two games shooting 39%, 1.5 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 2.5 turnovers.
    -
    1995: 8 points in 9 seconds. Game 7 vs Orlando, put up 12 points and 0 assists.
    -
    1998: Games 6 and 7 against Bulls, averaged 15/2/3.
    -
    1999: #2 seed Pacers lost to #8 seed Knicks. Reggie put up 8 points on 3-18 shooting in the close-out game. Average margin of victory for the series: 3.17 ppg. Where were Reggie’s clutch skills?
    -
    2000: Reggie’s best playoffs, shooting only 45%. Game 1 of the Finals, shot 1-16.
    -
    2002: Reggie hit his lucky and incredible bank shot against the Nets. Failed to score in 2OT and lost the game and the series in the first round.
    -
    2004: Made Conference Finals averaging 10 points on 40% shooting.
    So please, tell me when Reggie’s “clutchness” actually accomplished ANYTHING.

  • Caboose

    But they’ve still won.

  • shutup

    Ok first lets kill this Miller is better than West bullshit. Miller only avg over 20pts 6 times in a 18 year career. West only scored under 20 in his rookie season. Miller never lead the league in scoring, actually he never came close, West only did it once but his career is sandwiched by 2 of 3 of the most potent offensive players ever, Chamberlain and KAJ. Miller’s career ppg avg of 18.2 is paled in comapsrison to West’s 27 ppg. You wanna compare playoff ppg avg? Miller- 20.6 West- 29.1. Oh and West was a better defender than Reggie by far. One last point West played his whole NBA career without the three point line; think about that they have similar total career points 25279 to 25192 respectively but Miller has made approx 800 less field goals. Lastly; yes Miller has some Playoff highlights, but his clutchness, is severely distorted because of one game in particular, although he was ice-cold at the ft line, but thats not really the clutch we are talking about, is it?

  • shutup

    You beat me too it.

  • shutup

    The only true way to compare players is to compare what they did against there contemporaries. If West played today he would have to be born this era and might have been taller and faster, would have had the advantage of advanced nutrition and workout programs, you see the can of worms that opens?

  • Caboose

    Really? C’mon, you know that sounds stupid to say that you could guard ANYBODY in the NBA at any point in time after 1960. So you want to discredit the accomplishments of Havlicek, Archibald, Frazier, Barry, Lucas, Robertson, and Greer? Yes, clearly West didn’t have much competition.

  • The Philosopher

    My reply to those valid points are as such;
    Many of the great players have had tough moments in the clutch. Even Michael. Even Magic Johnson. Even The King. Even Kobe Bryant.
    Now, I’m not saying that Reggie Miller embodied perfection in the clutch, but all I’m saying is that Reggie was brilliant in many clutch moments. And again, Miller had a heavy load to carry. Only so much that a lone Hall of Famer can do for a team. Especiallly when defenses are geared and designed to stop that player.
    What else could he have done?
    He carried bad teams for the majority of his career, and made them respectable.

  • Caboose

    So making bad teams average makes someone a Hall of Famer? And of all those players you listed, they all have rings. Reggie never won. And I don’t buy that he never had a championship team.

  • The Philosopher

    I definitely understand the can of worms that opens. And I’ll concede on that point. And I agree with your point concerning the different eras.

  • The Philosopher

    Smits was decent. Especially for a player who’s never made multiple star teams.
    In fact, has Miller ever had a fellow multiple all stars on his teams? Forget about Hall of Famers.

  • The Philosopher

    Sarcasm, Caboose. You know better than that.

  • The Philosopher

    And sure, West was ahead of his time. As well as the others you mentioned. But those are only a handful of players.

  • wewqdqwd

    SGs

    1. mj
    2. kobe
    3. west
    4. iverson
    5. miller

  • Caboose

    Brad Miller, Ron Artest, Jermaine O’Neal, Dale Davis, Rik Smits (1998), Detlef Schrempf

  • Caboose

    Wade? Gervin? Drexler?

  • Caboose

    That’s bad logic and you know it. You want me to give you a detailed list of every guard in the NBA from 1960-1973? I show you that West clearly played against good competition (unless you want to discredit ALL of them) and you just ignore it.

  • Caboose

    Let’s just make this simple:
    —-
    -Roughly 20 ppg scorer (being generous)
    -Below average defender
    -Never won a ring
    -Holds no NBA records
    -Bad clutch statistics
    -Below average rebounder
    -Bad playmaker
    -Never made All NBA First Team
    -Never made All NBA Second Team
    -Only 5 All Star Appearances
    -Record of losing to lower seeded teams
    -Reputation for clutchness
    —-
    That’s what the Hall of Fame is based on: reputation. That’s it.

  • The Philosopher

    But you see my point.

  • The Philosopher

    You’re telling me that that’s a championship team? Maybe if they all played together at the same time…
    But they didn’t.

  • Dagger

    On the other hand, you can also argue that Jackson, who played with Miller and is close friends with Miller, is naturally less objective and more easily caught up in the moment than a fan with access to the tapes and the statistics. And if firsthand experience counts for so much, how many former NBA players would agree that Regie was better than, for example, the logo or D-Wade?

  • Dagger

    If we expand that to those West played against – not just guarded – we can also mention a couple guys called Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain, along with so many others. Or the guys who came right after West, like Dr. J and Kareem. The players of the past, on average, aren’t the athletes of today, but don’t discount them as overall basketball players. Or as athletes: in skill or athleticism I’ll take Wilt over Howard any day.

  • The Philosopher

    So… then, what was his reputation?
    Everything that I’ve been lamenting about? And everything the selection comittee is lamenting about, when concerning him?
    Or, something else?

  • Caboose

    His reputation is that when the game was important, he went out and scored 40, willing his team to victory. That never happened in a close out game. Basically, his (rather unfounded and media-driven) reputation carried him into the hall. If the media liked Mike Bibby a bit more, they could have built the same image. Cause Bibby put up similar stats and was definitely a solid clutch player.

  • The Philosopher

    Not discrediting them, which I’ve already expressed. Just saying that Reggie’s era was better.
    And I’m sure you know that Reggie’s era was better.
    But again, Jerry played against some guys who were ahead of their time.

  • Caboose

    I’ll grant Reggie’s era was better. But I know you recognize the logical fallacy of using such an inconsequential fact to prove that Reggie was better. Heck, I just looked through my top SG’s list, I think Reggie is well outside the top 10.

  • shutup

    We definitely weren’t watching the same Rik Smits. When healthy he was a problem for everyone. 7’5″ with a deadly jumper, saw him especially give Ewing problems when they went head to head.

  • The Philosopher

    Oh, I agree with the pedigree of Smits. Again, he was decent. Had potential to be an all time center.
    But it didn’t happen.

  • Caboose

    Nice edit, trying to make yourself not look wrong. Own up to your mistakes.

  • The Philosopher

    So, consistently going out and scoring 40 on call, willing his team to victory as the lone HOF player, when the game is important, is not worthy of the call to the Hall?
    And, how many players score 40 in a closeout game? It happens, but how often?
    Again, not saying Reggie Miller is the G.O.A.T., but that he is a legit Hall of Fame player.

  • The Philosopher

    Yes, sir…
    I messed up.
    I mess up frequently up here. You know that. lol

  • Caboose

    I’m done. You’ve yet to provide a single bit of concrete proof as to why he belongs in the hall. Wanna know why? There isn’t any. Just anecdotal evidence from people who grew up watching Reggie play and therefore have INCREDIBLE bias. So, think what you want, just know your thinking isn’t backed up by anything reasonable or logical.

  • The Philosopher

    So, you’re telling me that the selection comittee grew up watching Reggie Miller, and are biased?
    And I have procured plenty of proof earlier.
    But I understand.
    Many people feel the same way you do.

  • The Philosopher

    So, now that we’ve established that Miller’s era was better, how can we factually and truthfully argue that West is better than Miller?
    So, my alleged logical fallacy is comparable to you using stats to butress the argument of West being better than Miller. Think about it.
    You’ve just helped prove my point.
    Not to beat a dead horse, and not trying to troll…

  • The Philosopher

    Your last point remains to be seen, I suppose.
    We’d have to ask them.
    As for Jackson perhaps being biased towards Miller, that also may or may not have validity.
    But Mark Jackson, it can be argued, may or may not be biased towards quite a few players.
    And perhaps other players may, or may not be biased towards a player(s) as well.

  • Caboose

    Wilt played in a worse era than Dwight. Is Dwight better?

  • The Philosopher

    I will say this;
    Wilt would not be the player today that he was back then.
    Ran the floor well, quick first step. Great leaper. Great defender.
    Marcus Camby.
    But Wilt is one of those players who is ahead of their time.
    Shaq is ahead of his time.
    Shaq is better than Wilt.

  • Caboose

    I swear you’re just trying to troll. So Wilt, who was 7’1 and could outlift Shaq would only be Marcus Camby? There is nobody in today’s NBA anywhere CLOSE to how strong and athletic Wilt was. Dwight would be short and weak, and we see how he dominates the post today. There’s no reason to believe Wilt wouldn’t put up 30 a game in today’s league.

  • The Philosopher

    My bad. I thought we were talking about what kind of ball player he would be. Not who can outlift who.
    Now, on that note, you MAY have a quite valid point. IF in fact, that is true.
    But to counter your point about how there is no one who can measure to Wilt physically, I think that that’s inaccurate. Shaq can’t handle Wilt on the blocks?
    So, all of these 7 foot plus guys… none of the guys from today, or the 90′s, or 80′s can hang with Wilt on the blocks?

  • The Philosopher

    And in which way do you speak of Howard dominating? I hope you speak of defensive prowess.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/GametimeWeezy Gametime

    Former 3-point record holder doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame? Oh..

  • shutup

    You really shouldn’t use his HOF status to justify his HOF status (ie-willing his team to victory as the lone HOF player) btw I am pretty sure Marc Jackson will make it to the Hall too

  • shutup

    I am not saying his career doesn’t warrant induction; but he is definitely on the bubble, his career had some note worthy moments, but it is blasphemy to say he is a top 3 sg of his era, let alone of all-time. That was the main point I was trying to prove.

  • The Philosopher

    No doubt.
    And I respect your view.

  • The Philosopher

    Respect.

  • Ugh

    Anecdotal evidence? You can talk!
    Your assertions he was a bad playmaker, defender and clutch player are without any kind of metric evidence whatsoever AND you admit that you didn’t grow up watching him – where do you get your opinions of him from, then?

  • Ugh

    ATTENTION, ATTENTION. Here is something that may clear up the confusion about Reggie deserving to be a HoFer.
    Courtesy of Wiktionary: “Fame: The state of being famous or well-known and spoken of.”

    Reggie is, and was, famous. And was so for playing basketball. In fact we’re speaking about his well known basketball abilities right now.

    The Hall of Fame is not, and has never been, the Hall of Excellence, the Hall of Greatness, the Hall of Legendary Playing Ability.

    (And this is not an assertion that Reggie was never these traits, just statement of fact.)

    Now stop arguing like children and suck up the fact that it’s about being a famous player, not a great one.

  • Caboose

    Sigh.
    -Bad Playmaker: 3.0 apg for his career, never higher than 4.0 for a season. PPR of about 2.0 for his career.
    -Bad Defender: Never averaged more than 3.0 defensive win shares in a season. He has the same career average as roughly Jameer Nelson.
    -Bad Clutch Player: Read my earlier post about how he performed in closing games. You’re welcome to look up the actual percentages he shot in clutch situations; they’re right around league average.
    For the record, I offered plenty of metric stats, you just were far too lazy to read through the arguments I presented earlier. Cheers.

  • Caboose

    These guys let Dwight hang over 20 a game on them. Wilt was FAR superior athletically to Howard. Higher vert by about 8 inches, faster speed, greater strength, and much greater length. Which 7 foot monster are you speaking of today? Tyson Chandler? Andrew Bynum? If you think Wilt couldn’t dominate them on the block, I just don’t know what to say. There are 3 people in history I think who could contain Wilt’s combination of speed and strength: Kareem, Hakeem, Mutombo.

  • The Philosopher

    Don’t forget Robinson…
    You pretty much brought up the guys I was thinking about.
    I just had an issue with the thought that no one in modern NBA History can hang with Wilt on the blocks. That’s all.
    And I believe that Shaq, Alonzo Mourning, and Dwight Howard can all hold their own against Wilt, defensively.
    And of course, I can be wrong.
    Hell, we all can be wrong.
    But that’s part of the beauty and part of the fun of these kinds of discussions.

  • Caboose

    I agree, speculative stuff like this is fine to just chat about. I disagree about Dwight though, Wilt is just too damn long for him. Dwight relies on his vert a lot, and Wilt outjumps him by a GOOD margin.

  • The Philosopher

    Hey, maybe you’re right.
    But Howard has built, and is still building a reputation to many as, one of the elite defenders of all time.
    At least, in his respective generation.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Sure, Miller had a championship-caliber team for one season with Ron Artest, Jermaine O’Neal, and Stephen Jackson….. Oh wait, Malice at the Palace. From the list of guys you just named, are you really going to blame Reggie for not winning a ring with the two guys who got themselves suspended (one for the entire season)?
    Also funny how no one here mentioned Jalen Rose, who was the Pacers’ second best player when they made it to the finals. Just saying.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    What exactly are you arguing? Are you saying he doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame or are you complaining about the Hall itself?

  • Drig

    I just realized TMac and VC are gonna enter the HOF………… :(

  • Drig

    Once I heard about Reggie making the HOF, I was immediately thinking that these guys better have a good reason to not induct Mitch Ritchmond into the HOF soon. And T-Mac in the future….

  • shutup

    Woah, woah, woah may I interject, well of course I can…. Dwight Howard is not an elite defender, he is an elite defensive player, subtle difference but its still different. Dwight does not stop people. What I am trying to say is he rarely changes the shot of the man he is guarding, Pau gave him fits, Bynum gets his when they play and almost any other center with an above average offensive game is going to get their points on Howard. Bowen was an elite defender, Tony Allen, Scottie Pippen, even Ron Artest (not MWP so much) are of the same ilk.

  • shutup

    Respect

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    @disqus_TS5ENDusN3:disqus @disqus_hxPumCveGM:disqus @disqus_oxoGJMLagc:disqus – Reggie Miller was not a better NBA player than Bernard King. Who is not in the Hall. It’s not about how good the players was, but about how much they garnered attention.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Iverson should have been on the tier with Wade, Drexler and West. I see the stat geeks are slowly eroding the significance of his career as the years go by. Figures.

  • shutup

    Bernard King is a favorite of mine and him not being in the hall is a travesty. I think out of the 4 major North American Sports; Basketball has the lowest standard for induction in it’s HOF. Thinking of Bernard King brings to mind fond memories of watching tape of Vinnie Johnson and Adrian Dantley; all of which in some way influenced my post-game development.

  • shutup

    If by chance you can name some other Non-HOF players, that had comparable or better NBA careers than Miller, I would appreciate the education. I was never one to follow players post-nba careers with much interest, unless they end up on basketball wives.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Well there are many other players, not many wings though.
    I’d argue, Sidney Moncrief was a better NBA player than Reggie and he’s not in the Hall. That would be my other biggest gripe aside from Bernard King.

  • Caboose

    You could add in Dennis Johnson if we’re just talking about wings. As far as all players better than Reggie not in the Hall, I’d say:
    -King
    -Moncrief
    -Haywood
    -McGinnis
    -Johnson
    -Stokes (sentimental)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I agree that all of them were better except Stokes. But Dennis Johnson got elected in 2010 bruh.

  • Caboose

    Did he? My bad, totally forgot that then.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, unfortunately the year after he passed away. The HOF procrastinates on deserving guys. I hope to goodness Bernard gets in soon, he really deserves it.

  • Rook

    Caboose=maaad dumb

  • shutup

    Not really familiar with Sidney Moncrief; but I looked up his stats and wasn’t that impressed, stats wise he had what seems like a better than average NBA career and I have seen him ranked as high as 110 all-time but not really sure I believe he was more deserving than Reggie Miller, what makes you believe he was better than Reggie Miller? (not being arguementative; strictly inquisitive)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    don’t worry i like to explain my beliefs man. Basically Moncrief is one of the top 5 defensive wings of all-time. With what he could do offensively, (he had a 4 or 5 seasons at 20PPG with atleast 4Rpg & 4APG) and his defensive accolades, (DPOY in 83 & 84, 5-Time All-Defensive Team Selections) his overall game made him (imo) a better overall player than Reggie Miller.

  • shutup

    Makes sense, now I understand the high overall all-time ranking, but I can also understand why he hasn’t gotten the nod yet. Offense is more championed than defense. Even though at their respective peaks Moncrief might have been the better player and many people’s pick if given the choice between the two; Miller on paper has had the better career Miller has 2x+ the career points of Moncrief, and we all know that even though defense wins games; offense is what the people come to see.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah, i mean i realize why Miller is in and Moncrief isn’t. I just personally don’t agree with it. Still, I don’t see any excuse to keep out Bernard King who was literally better than Reggie in every single way but shooting.

  • shutup

    I think King just rubbed people the wrong way, personally I loved the fire in his game, but he was rumored to be sort of a dick to reporters. He’ll probably get the nod postmortem just for spite.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he apparently did, but the HOF Comittee isn’t all former or current media members. The whole selection process is a mystery. “Full transparency? Colangelo backed away from that in February when the 2010 Hall nominees were announced over All-Star Weekend in Dallas. “In order to have a process that’s clean, you can’t have people know who’s on the committee, because you don’t want people soliciting votes,” he said then. “I think that’s really unhealthy. I’ll know who’s on the committee and it will be my judgment how we get the kind of transparency I believe we need.” –
    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/08/12/hall.process/index.html

  • shutup

    Yeah but past media members and current media members probably make up enough of the committee to keep him out. That article was a great read and the attached video gave me new found respect for DJ. Thank You for that.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Unfortunately you are probably right about that.
    .
    No doubt man, I like to share whatever basketball related info and resources I can. I’m just glad that I am not posting them for nothing.

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