Tuesday, November 27th, 2012 at 10:45 am  |  31 responses

Spike Lee Talks to Spike Lee About the Knicks and Nets (VIDEO)

The film maker has a tough decision to make.

Brooklyn celebrity resident and huge Knicks fan Spike Lee did the pregame introduction to the big New York basketball showdown last night. The filmmaker decided to talk to himself in a mirror about this new hoops rivalry.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    haha I like it…its actually shaping up to be a nice rivalry

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ben Osborne

    Spike is great.

  • spit hot fiyah

    i wonder how much they had to pay spike to dress up as a nets fan

  • Caboose

    To nbk, I need a basic theory/point to discuss. I won’t use anything you say against your argument, I just need to know where to begin.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You can’t get something from nothing. Is the basis of what my reasoning would be. I know somewhat about Quantum Fluctuation Theory, if that’s where you are going to go. I find (logical to me i guess lol) holes in that theory.

  • Caboose

    No no, more along the theory of relativity. Should I explain it?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    if you can apply it to what i said, yes. i don’t understand it well enough to think of it in that way.

  • Caboose

    Ah, well, let me just tell you where I’m going with this. I’m kinda side-stepping your claim of “can’t get something from nothing.” To which I agree. Where I disagree that this is proof of a higher power is my claim is that the universe has always existed. That’s where my point is going.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol this isn’t going to work then. i would just reason that the universe would be the higher power. again, unless this is a computer program. which there is a completely, logical, and reason based argument for. that i honestly see no holes in.

  • Caboose

    Haha ah I see. We’re in scientific agreement. It’s philosophically where we diverge. And that’s an unsolvable debate.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah looks to be that way. i don’t, philosophically speaking, understand the concept of laws of nature (science*) w/out a higher power within the context of there being anything that has always been (*eternal) — does that make sense?

  • Caboose

    It does, I just define time differently. Try this: the Big Bang Theory states that all that is our universe was at one time compressed into a point smaller than a subatomic particle. Obviously, this little thing has a sh*t ton of mass. According to the Theory of Relativity, time moves slower near more massive objects. For example, a person on Earth would age faster than one who spent his life in a spaceship. Not by much (the Earth isn’t that massive), but the effect would be there. Now, with the universe contained in such an astronomically (pun) massive particle, time would bend to the point that it wouldn’t exist. Literally, before the Big Bang, there was no time. That little point would have ALWAYS existed because there can literally be nothing before it. Make sense?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah i totally understand that. — and here is where i would go (not trying to turn this into an argument, just trying to show you *my* logic) — all energy is only transferred correct? it never dissipates, only separates (not going to be the best at explaining my reasoning so bare with me)..i would reason that God is the = to all energy/space — the issue i have, is reasoning a “God Consciousness” even though I do believe it exists, in no particular form, other than to provide order and reason.
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    if this doesn’t make sense, just let me know, and i’ll try to explain it differently.

  • Caboose

    Haha I’ve read Aristotle’s Metaphysics. You could just say that ;)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i honestly haven’t :0/

  • Caboose

    Read it. It’s EXACTLY what you define as God. Hell, I had a professor who called Aristotle’s God “God-Thought” because it wasn’t a true being.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i’m totally shocked for real. i will read it tonight. do you disagree with any logic in there? or just the end-concept?

  • Caboose

    Haha trust me, you’ll want some Spark Notes with you while you read it. Ish is COMPLEX. He wrote it basically for himself. The logic is fine, he relies on some assumptions that will seem strange to us, but it’s all integrable with today’s knowledge, with some creativity. It’s definitional stuff you can split hairs on.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i’ll be alright, i’m pretty good with philosophy. and i’m patient, i won’t rush through reading it, i’ll read the same thing over and over till i understand it. — and what i explained to you, i have felt this way as long as i can remember. i never bought into the bible or any organized religion for that matter. i didn’t understand what they meant when i was younger, and ignorantly proclaimed i agreed with some of it, but in actuality, i have always believed the things i said. i just never knew how to (and still feel like i don’t completely) verbalize/rationalize how i felt to other people. i’m excited to read more Aristotle, i read some stuff for a few philosophy classes, but honestly never applied myself, just coasted into passing…and was frankly too immature to truly examine what he was saying.

  • Caboose

    Then you’re about to love his works. I’m much more well versed in Plato, but for Aristotle, go for Physics and Metaphysics. The way he arrives at the definition of God is interesting (and probably wrong) but the conclusions he draws from it are intriguing. That’s more what I’d focus on.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    is his metaphysics a collection of all of his theories? is there a certain portion i should focus on? i’ll prolly have to get spark notes just to organize what i’m reading huh?

  • Caboose

    Definitely. I can’t recall the portions I’ve read. There’s a lot of fluff in there (that is needlessly complex). Sparknote the relevant stuff then focus on that, for sure. Think SLAM is curious as to why this thread has so many comments?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what i think most of the traditional philosophy does though, it complicates the explanations of beliefs way more than it needs too. aristotle/plato/David Hume convoluted their ideas and occassionally contradicted themselves and exposed their lack of consistent logic for instance, David Hume supported the scientific method but also followed the induction fallacy lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “There’s a lot of fluff in there (that is needlessly complex).”

    .”what i think most of the traditional philosophy does though, it complicates the explanations of beliefs way more than it needs too”

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    we literally were typing those at the same time.

  • Caboose

    Hume…ugh, I don’t like Hume. Plato is great if you take him one work at a time. It’s when you cross-analyze his stuff that it gets messy. For me, the Republic is an absolute triumph. Just don’t stack it next to Symposium, and the ideas flow great.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i very much dislike Hume, but he is the easiest person to make an example out of. so i went there.

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    and those were my issues with Plato in Philosophy. I thoroughly enjoyed going over each individual work that we did (the Republic & the state? – i’m not sure what the second work was called, i apologize) but then when we compared the two i got very frustrated.

  • Caboose

    Probably either Laws or Statesman.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i believe it was Statesman. which is really an updated version of The Republic anyway right? Because our professor, if i remember correctly, had us compare them as if they were written at the same time, and i believe that is what actually frustrated me more than anything.

  • Caboose

    …………Smack your professor in the face.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Trust me, I wanted to.

  • ripslam

    Not a fan of Spike Lee, but this was pretty cool.

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