Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 11:38 am  |  99 responses

Searching For A ‘Consistent’ Jump Shot

Why ‘consistent’ shooting is extremely rare and overrated.

by John Krolik

During last season’s playoffs, Josh Smith was absolutely blowing everybody’s mind.

Then, Doris Burke made a comment that was so egregious it nearly prevented me from enjoying my Chipotle.

After Smith stole the ball, flown to the other end of the court for a dunk, and invented a helmet that looked like his hair, Doris, in lieu of the appropriate and simple “Wow, there isn’t another guy in the league who could have pulled that off,” said “Can you imagine how good this will be if he ever develops a consistent jump shot?”

I hate “consistent jump shot.” Loathe it. Allow me to explain why this seemingly innocuous phrase about a fundamental component of basketball is the subject of my ire.

My first problem with “consistent jumpshot” is that it does not exist. It is a myth propagated by basketball broadcasters and scribes. A consistent jump shot is what was in Marcellus Wallace’s briefcase. JFK’s second shooter has a consistent jump shot. Jimmy Hoffa was buried beneath a consistent jump shot. Gravity’s Rainbow is, in fact, a reference to the arc of a consistent jump shot.

I think I have a fair idea of what the word “consistent” means, and it would imply that a player with a consistent jump shot can, at his discretion, pop off a jumper and have it go in with enough regularity so that it is effective every single night, or close to every single night, with “effective” being defined as “good enough to produce results better than the average.”

Now, jump shots are an extremely important part of basketball. In fact, most of the shots taken in a given game will be jump shots. How well a team shoots jump shots is a huge factor in how good of a team they are.

But jump shots are, by their nature, unreliable and hugely variable in their success – the exact opposite of consistent.

A player with a consistent jump shot should be able to create opportunities for his jump shot and knock it down with enough regularity so that it produces points at a rate better than average. The league average “True Shooting Percentage,” or field goal percentage accounting for free throws and the added value of threes, is about 53 percent.

Accounting for the added value of threes, Kobe Bryant’s field goal percentage on his jump shots was 45.7%. Ray Allen, with two other all-stars drawing coverage for him and getting more than his share of spot-up looks, shot 51.6%. Dirk Nowitzki, 49.7%. Manu Ginobili, 50.8%. Rip Hamilton, 50%. Michael Redd, 47%. Kevin Durant, 40%. These are some of the best inside-outside threats in the league, and yet over time a jump shot from them doesn’t produce the efficiency of an average offensive player.

Don’t get me wrong – every player will have to shoot jumpers at some point, and the more of them you make, the better it is for the team. But “consistent” jump shot implies that these players will beat teams by shooting jump shots. In reality, when great players settle for shooting a jumper, it’s a victory for the defense.

“Consistent” implies these players will beat teams by shooting jump shots, when in reality one of them shooting a jumper is a victory for the defense. “Consistent” jump shot also implies that great shooters would be, well, consistent. This is untrue. Great shooters are still streak shooters-they just have more good streaks than bad ones. Look at Ray Allen’s 3-pointers in the 2008 Playoffs, and again, this is one of the all-time great 3-point shooters:

First five games: 16-32, including two 5-8 games and 1 1-6
Month of April: 17-65, including a 1-8, and 0-6 over three games, and a 5-6
Against The Lakers: 22-42, including a 7-9 performance

In general, guys who do the majority of their work close to the basket are much more consistent on a nightly basis than guys who rely on outside shots.

Which brings me to LeBron James, the player whose name is used in conjunction with “needs a consistent jump shot” more than any other player in the league. The theory goes that if LeBron got a “consistent” jump shot, he would be completely unstoppable, because his driving ability forces defenders to give him space for a jumper, and if he was “consistent” with that jumper, they would have to allow him to drive to the basket, where he’s nearly unsurpassed.

Here’s the thing: defenders are always going to give him space for that jumper, because they’re not stupid. Doing consistent damage by pulling up for jumpers on the dribble is nearly impossible. LeBron’s shooting issues are in no small part due to the degree of difficulty on his shots.

A better jump shot would certainly make him a better player, but it would not elevate him to an unstoppable deity, simply because there’s no way he, or anyone else, could be more dangerous shooting jumpers as LeBron is when he’s going to the basket.

Bringing things back to Doris, I’m not sure what she wants Josh Smith to become. I don’t see how having J-Smoove camp out at the three-point line is what anyone who plays with him or watches him would want, and having Josh Smith stagnate an offense by doing a weak Pistol Pete impression out on the perimeter instead of exploding between the margins of normality and streaking towards the hole for finishes around the basket doesn’t seem like the best of plans.

Jumpers are beautiful to watch, they keep a defense stretched out, and they can be a wonderful Deus Ex Machina that can overcome good defense and bury a sometimes superior team in a flurry of threes. But there’s nothing consistent about the fickle mistress that is the deep jumper, and to say that the possession of a consistent jumper is a necessary precursor to greatness is a resolution to never see greatness.

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  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Very interesting post. I’m going to think of an appropriate response, but I wanted to commend the author on taking on an interesting topic and doing a very good job of presenting his ideas.

  • namik

    I kinda see what you’re trying to say. But as for the defender “always” giving Bron space, that’s just not true. Jordan had a vastly superior jumpshot and was just as creative as Bron driving as almost equally effective when there. But it wasn’t like the defender was just backing up off him and letting him pull up. The Spurs and Boston both just packed it in inside and let him shoot. It worked in one game against Boston but it sure as hell didn’t work against San An. I would say that working on his jumpshot is the only aspect of the game that he has not mastered. And yes, by mastered I mean a 45%-50% shooter.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Nothing should prevent a man from enjoying his Chipotle.
    I’ll go back and read the rest of this now.

  • Double J

    man this is like an epiphany from up above, i’m one of those players who streaks through the lane and yet wants a consistent jump shot… who knew it didn’t even exist lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Ok, I read it. Good stuff, but part of me just wonders if this is semantics. If Doris (who I’d totally do) had instead said Josh would be deadly if he could “consistently” (meaning year to year) bump his shooting percentage up five points, no one would disagree. I think that’s mostly what people mean when they talk about the CJS (What Bill James? WHAT?!) And it’s hard to argue with the basic truth that, if a really athletic player who doesn’t make a very high percentage of his jumpers can start to make a higher percentage of his jumpers, he’ll be a better offensive player.
    And yeah, I totally said that sh*t about Doris Burke.

  • KA

    shoot the jay! /prince

  • William

    A consistent jump shot is extremely rare but not overrated. I would say Micheal Jordan had a consistent jump shot and he was almost unstoppable because he could attack the basket, find team mates or bury that jump shot.

  • ciolkstar

    yeah, I completely agree. MJ had one of the closest things I’ve ever seen to a “consistent jumper” but he was so deadly because of how well/often he attcked the rim. IN his prime the guy shot more layups (albeit contested layups)than any 2 guard I’ve ever seen. Which has also been one of my main criticisms of Kobe, he constantly heaves up deep Js. he was so deasdly against the Spurs last playoffs because he focused on getting to the middle of the floor and scoring from midrange. His Olympic “performance” nearly made me sick, especially after he finally wetted a couple threes after being the complete embodiment of everything I hate about his game for the past 7.5 games.
    @ Jukai: Seeing manu up near the top in True Shooting % is no surprise to me. I’d say he’s not far behind anyone in the L in terms of being an iside-out offensive threat. I’m still waiting on 5 two guards who are better…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    just make the ball bigger, and well the rim.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    If the term ‘consistent shooter’ was changed to ‘somewhat reliable shooter when you take true shooting averages into account’,Josh Smith still wouldn’t be one.
    Great piece,by the way.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Erin Andrews > Doris Burke

  • ciolkstar

    cosign RV 100%
    Doris pisses me off too much(constantly saying “check” instead of “defend” or “guard”, regardless of the context)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Obviously, RV. But Erin Andrews doesn’t critique NBA players’ shooting ability for a living, does she? I will totally fight you!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    You too, star name guy!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    Saying you’d do someone named ‘Doris’ is a sure sign you’re getting old.

  • LT

    This is a weak argument and is most definitely semantics. We all know what she meant…if he could score from 15 feet the way he does going to the rack, he’d be ridiculous.

  • http://www.mybleedingfingertips.blogspot.com/ Myles Brown

    Im just gonna go ahead and co-sign on both of Izzos comments and get back to my lemonade.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Obviously, the new freshman class at Penn State must be very underwhelming.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Morning, Sports Gal! You impregnate any other Palins this week?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Ryan, she critiques college ball, close enough. SLAM should give her a chance to step up to the NBA.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    She’s a sideline reporter, RV. She doesn’t “critique” anything. She just holds a phallic looking microphone and stands around looking hotter than the sun.
    Seriously, where do you live? We’re gonna fight, like, really soon.

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  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Good piece. I think “consistent jump shooter” is a bit of a misnomer…but still, i think it’s important not to undervalue the jump shot. Yes, lebron will never be as effective shooting jump shots as he will be driving the basket, but he WILL be more effective driving to the basket if he can hit a jump shot, because the defense will play just a LITTLE more honest or be a little bit more prone to a pump fake. I also don’t think Lebron is the best example because…well..he’s a freak. The L is littered with players who are crippled because they can’t shoot. Someone who IS extremely effective getting to the basket, but can’t shoot a lick (telfair is the first name that comes to mind) will have his driving ability neutralized by a defense that sags way off.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Ryan, I live in Houston, which is hotter than the sun right now. That must be a sign.

  • Young Chris MP3

    Lemonade sounds pretty good right about now… 87 degrees in Boston? Damn…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Maybe the focus should be on developing “consistent moves” and not consistent jumpshots.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    RV: I agree with that. all a player needs is a go-to move and a countermove to keep the defense off balance. preferably more than one move/countermove, but thats the basis. Kareem: drop step/sky hook. Dream: Drop step/turnaround. Ginobli: Spot-up jumper/crazy argentinian drive. Parker: Finish at the cup/floater from 8 ft. Obviously, it’s not that simple, but that’s the theory anyway. For josh smith, if he had “Jumper out of the triple threat” to set up his “Freight-train man-freak drive”, i do think he’d be a lot more effective.

  • nic

    …ryan is EN FUEGO today…
    (yeah, i said that $hit about dan patrick.)

  • nic

    seriously, the ‘you too, star name guy!’ is REALLY cracking me up.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I like this piece, alot.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    The only thing I am disagreeable with is the fact that John thinks the taking of jump shots even if the shooter is consistent is a win for the D. If you take a offensive minded players perspective who has a great jumper, forcing a team to come out on you to cover your shot from the tip opens up way more productive plays (drive and finish, penetrate and kick, makes a defender stay squarely with you on a pick and roll, etc)then someone who does not have that shot game.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    How many times can you leave a dude that has no J and cheat in the passing lanes, drop down to help rebounding, etc. before an opposing coach has to sit that dude? Also, “consistency” stems from the time of the game and the situation jumpers are made. If a team is packing the paint late game to ensure rebounding and you have a dude that can create space and drill J’s in that spot, your team is +25 on the good side, every time.

  • riggs

    lmao @ perk looking like hes practicing his thriller moves

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I also think that long range jumpshot and mid range jump shot should be seperate. some of you mentioned MJ as the most consistent jump shooter of the modern game. He was, probably in the same class as Larry Bird and Reggie Miller (better long range shooters than mid range guys)but Mike was most definitley a terror with his mid-range game, game in and game out. His three point game was night to night and most defintley not, consistent.

  • James aka The Artist Formerly Known as Krayzie Bone

    My short response would be a consistent jumpshot is something that allows you to pump fake and actually have the guy bite. Doris’s point about smith is that his athleticism allows him to do exciting things that demoralize the other team, so if he could do it in a half court, he’d be a star. If you want the prototypical example: Jordan. He often killed people in the half court because he had them respecting that shot. If you don’t have it, you become useless when your athleticism goes away. The whole argument looks like a strawman to me. The author defines what he things a consistent jumpshot is and then tears it appart. If you want to know what a consistent jump shot sounds like, its the opposing player on the wing with the ball, and the homecrowd groaning before the shot leaves. What it doesn’t sound like is the hard thud year hear 2 seconds Josh Smith chucks a Bo Outlawesque wounded duck from the elbow.

  • Captain America

    Good write up, John. “Consistent” jumper is an oxymoron. That is why we use percentages, because it is all relative.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    James, as usual, the man with solid points. Also, “If you don’t have it, you become useless when your athleticism goes away.” You don’t know how true that is, James.

  • B. Long

    Good article.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I think the writer underestimates exactly how many open, or fairly open jumpshots a good shooter can hit. Sure, players go through slumps, but someone with a “consistent jumpshot” like Ray Allen or Dirk will destroy any team that allows him to shoot without serious defense. Steve Nash as well. You have to play them close and not let them get comfortable or they will kill you strictly with the jumper.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    The author says a “consistent” jump shot is rare and overrated. I agree wholeheartedly. What’s funny is the jockers who also agree, but then go on to say that Michael Jordan had a consistent jump shot. Yeah right. I’ll bet my left sack that the stats don’t bear that out. The author makes a great point: that you can’t rely on the jump shot because of the nature of its variability. Still, like Ryan Jones said, it might be semantics, because you can always become a better outside shooter, even if you can’t attain “consistency”. Right now, I’m imagining Sasha Baron Cohen as Bruno, asking, “Do you think consistency is important?”

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Jackie obviously can’t shoot.

  • neurophilic

    Josh needs at least an improving shot (not jumper) for several reasons: it will create much better spacing for he and his teamates; it will spare him the physical punishment that comes with attacking the basket on every play and it affords him the angles he needs to explode by opposing defenders. Because he jumps(very high) only off his right leg, he doesn’t really explode unless he has a couple momentum building strides. Unless he works on improving the strength and muscle memory in that other leg he will probably better off shooting a set-shot so that he can both stay balanced on the shot and be prepaired for the drive.

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  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Mj’s midrange J was consistent. The defense he faced was not. The defense plays a role on how consistent the percentages are, but his midrange J alone was consistent.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and once again, a bigger basketball would solve all this. It would also take TJ ford and earl boykins out of the league, but still.

  • WhaHuh

    I think this is the difference between expecting someone to score, and when you expect someone to miss. Someone like J Smith and to a lesser extent LeBron take jumpers because they cant drive on that particular play. When we see someone like Allen/Kobe/Nash missing open shots we are surprised (see celtics in 2008 playoffs). This makes them more dangerous to defenders so are harder to guard.

  • MSkittle

    Not to mention the fact that people who develop “consistent jump shots” often become addicted to them an never drive anymore! Such as VC and Michael Finley.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    WhaHuh: That’s a different way to look at it too. Sometimes a guy like Lebron can take a long J, and even though you know he’s not a great shooter, you just know he’s going to drill it.

  • http://sdfjkl.com Jukai

    WhaHuh gets it, to an extent. No one’s jumper is consistent when being guarded. No one should miss a shot when they’re left unguarded.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It’s quite apparent that the current commenting group has never played basketball beyond the grammar school level. Jesus.

  • tealish

    I’m sorry, this article is wack. I get that it’s the summer and there isn’t a lot other than trade rumours to write about, but this piece is a little ridiculous.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    WTF is grammar school?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It’s what Americans call 1st to 8th grade, Izzo.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo

    I thought that was called ‘elementary school’?You live and you learn I guess..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Either or.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com H to the Izzo


  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You asked.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    I really enjoyed this column, and, though this might seem contradictory, enjoyed Doris Burke’s work during the Playoffs, when she was the lead analyst on a number of games (in other words, she has moved beyond calling college games and doing sideline work).

  • http://myspace.com/bodiebarnett jbn74sb

    1. I agree with The Farmer that this is really semantics. If an athletic player could learn to hit more of his jumpers, he would be much harder to guard.
    2. See Eboy’s comment about how a having a good jump shooter on the court opens the entire game up. Well said.
    3. I played against a guy the other night who, while athletic, couldn’t hit a 19’9″ three to save his life. I played about 4′ off of him, helped out on everyone else, and goaded him into shooting about 3-20 from deep.
    4. Grammar school is probably grades 1-6. Grades 7-8 is usually junior high, which coincidentally, is where Ryan cruises for chicks.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Bodie, true about #4. Not sure about the Jones part, though. #3 is also miserably consistent with most of the athletically gifted cats that play recreationally today.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I live next to an elementary school. I’d welcome crass jokes about that, except that I have two kids who will attend said elementary school in the next few years. So everybody shut up.

  • http://myspace.com/bodiebarnett jbn74sb

    So maybe Jones isn’t cruising for chicks at the junior high, and is perhaps insteads searching for the subject of his next best seller.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I co-sign Ryan 1000%. I do think his stance on the Palin baby is a little crappy though.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Eboy’s a Republican? Who knew?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    No, not at all.

  • ciolkstar

    E is right about MJs midrange being more deadly than the 3. Kobe finished off the Spurs last year by working from the Midrange which puts more prressure on the D than jacking deep 3s (which is actually exactly what Popp and the Spurs wanted him to do and what he did for the ENTIRE OLYMPICS)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    so I ‘m guessing that every basketball player is a streak shooter but some are just better streak shooters than others?

  • bike

    The problem is use of the term ‘consistent’.

    Webster defines consistent as: “marked by harmony, regularity, or steady continuity : free from variation or contradiction b: marked by agreement”

    So a guy that takes 800 jump shots over the course of a season, and makes none of them, is consistent.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Consistently poor.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Eboy got shrinkage!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Ha! You’re tiny! Double ha!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You little fetus……oh that’s wrong.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    You’ve be Palin-ed!

  • a_whiteman

    good post and i agree with pretty much each point you made. the only true consistency a player can have with his jumper is form and technique which can elevate the amount of jimmys you can hit. and besides, some players can shoot some can dunk some play great d some do a little of everything. if every player had a “consistent jumper” this game would not be so great!!! oh and nothing can prevent you from enjoying anything with some CHIPOTLE mmm mm mm

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m so going over to urbandictionary.com and seeing if her name has a meaning yet.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    F*ck it does. So much for that….

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  • davidR

    monta ellis has a consistent jumpshot

  • http://karanmadhok.blogspot.com karan

    i disagree… a consistent jumpshot means, a jump shop good enough (often enough), for the defenders to respect the shooter.
    and once the shooter has that respect, the inside game becomes much easier, they attract double teams and thus open up players, and i don’t think teams taking too many jump shots is neccessarily a victory for the defense, because if the shooters are consistently good (i.e. like the 7 seconds or less SUNS teams), they’re gonna destroy

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Eboy – how did you know I couldn’t shoot? Usually people figure that out once they see me play, but you knew right away. You are so smart.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cub Buenning

    I’m gonna jump over a few comments and take the semantics side. Josh Smith is not good at shooting the basketball. If only he could become a better shooter and get that ‘respect’ from the defender.
    Ask my local professional side, if they could use someone who could consistent make jump shots.

    I’m more of a qdoba guy…

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Cub is smart. Qdoba is better.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Can we get rid of the spam por favor

  • andrej

    i guess that these players are somtimes ice cold and sometimes hot I guess the players go through waves

  • Boing Dynasty

    Ryan the problem with Doris is that after you “do her”, she would wanna do you.

  • http://slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I’m equal opportunity, Boing. More importantly, I’m VERY disappointed by the pro-Qdoba delegation in here. That sh*t is SO second best.

  • Bruno

    offseason sucks, hey brother?
    cause writting such a dumb thing like this, i’m gonna credit the off season…
    its OBVIOUS that the word “consistent” together with “jumpshot” has a relative meaning.
    and its PATHETIC to be called king or best in the world, and having defenders stepping away from you cause you CAN’T hit a damn rock in… guy can dunk, can jump, is athletic… ok, i don’t disagree, but a J is a HUGE part of a ball player, specially a non-center
    don’t come with all this c(rap. please.

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  • http://www.jumpstart33.com Coach Godwin

    If you want to learn how to become a consistent shooter go to http://www.jumpstarthoops.com the Fundamentals of Shooting DVD breaks it down.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Thanks, Coach Godwin, but I already learned from one of the best shooters in the history of basketball, JJ Redick.

  • http://slamonline.com RolleZed

    good article.

  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    I’m just sayin’ a guy who doesn’t have a consistent jump shot shouldn’t shoot from the perimeter too much. That’s what you called playing smart

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  • Aristotle

    The day someone becomes a “Consistent Jump Shooter” you’ll know about it because Mulder and Scully will be onto it. Consistent Jump Shot just doesn’t exist. To be consistent it really does mean scoring 7 or 8 shots of your 10 and nothing less. To have defenders asking themselves when will he miss. So until that day arrives, I rather see Josh Smith, LeBron, and Wade cut to the basket and freak their defenders out.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    A good jump shot is art in its purest form.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Don’t be thieving my quote either.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    You be thieving it off Ray Allen- or at least paraphrasing it Teddy.

  • Ross

    2 things — 1) focus less on stats and more on the game itself. a dynamic one must consider is shot selection. the major shortcoming of Smith is bad shot selection and an inconsistent jumpshot with”open” jumpshots. James needs to do the same in developing consistency with open jumpshots 2)Using Ray Allen in the ’08 playoffs is a terrible example, especially considering he is arguably one of the best “shooters” of all time. this years playoffs it has been well documented the extenuating family circumstance in going into the first 2 rounds (do your homework, hard to focus with a child in the hospital and your family seriously threatened by someone charged with attempted murder) … with that said, both would be much benefitted by being more mid-range/ post oriented vs. perimeter but should also be adequate not to handicap the offense when given open shots. I know it’s nitpicking but these two have greatness in their future, so it is what it is …

  • AB_40

    the better sentance would be get the treath of the jump shot in his arsenal so the opponents have to respect that skill of that perticular player. Because is they would man up to J-Smoove cuz he can knock that down at a nice chip He’ll be a player that would be near impossible to guard in a 1 on 1 situation. And since the nba relies on 1on1 situations a let less then fancy plays ah well you do the math