Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 8:00 am  |  190 responses

SLAMonline Top 50: Manu Ginobili, no. 14

The definitive ranking of the best players in the NBA today…

by Chris O’Leary

Friends,

It is me, Manu*. I write to you today to plead my case before you, the eyes and heart of the basketball world. I’m the 14th player on this list and when you saw my face on the page, I could hear…feel your collective groans.

I feel like I’ve gotten a bad rap in my six years in the NBA. Sure, I make millions of dollars to play a game and am supposed to take your criticism as a part of my job, but try explaining that to my feelings. I tried, and it hasn’t worked.

For some reason, people hate me. I used to deny this. I’d tune out the booing when I heard it, telling myself that that’s just life on the road when you play in the NBA. Recently, though, that has changed for me.

I used to tell myself that you and I were not that different from one another. Granted, I play a hard-nosed style of basketball at a level that less than one percent of the world could only ever hope to aspire to. At the end of the day, though, I like to come home and have a beer, a bath, and maybe a good cry under the concealing light of candles surrounding my tub before calling it a day. Just like you, I would imagine.

And just like you, I also spend a lot of time on the Internet. Up until this summer, I was a Facebook fiend. Under the guise of an anonymous account, I was having all kinds of fun adding my basketball friends and tracking down people that I hadn’t thought about in years. I still have Vinny Del Negro in friendship purgatory.

Then one day during the playoffs, everything changed.

Some people say Googling your own name is the ultimate in narcissism. With that in mind, I took a simpler approach and typed my own name into a Facebook search. As my name ran across the search bar, my stomach churned a little, like my body was warning me against doing it. But you’ve seen me play basketball; you know that I’m kind of a glutton for punishment.

I could never have prepared myself for what I found. I won’t lie to you: it changed me, probably forever.

At this time, there are 88 Facebook groups about me, the vast majority of them negative. The first one: I hate Manu Ginobili and the rest of the San Antonio Spurs. It doesn’t get much better after that. One group calls me a little f*cking b*tch—it has 183 members. Another says it hates me because I am a flopping p***y—144 people have joined.

One group even suggests that I have a vagina. Me! A vagina! That is an offensive foul, my friends. Shame on the 76 people who joined this group.

What I don’t understand is how I became so hated. What did I ever do to you? Since most of you reading this can’t play basketball on my level, let me put it to you in a way you can understand. Think about videogames.

When you play a videogame, you play to win, no? If you’re playing a game and notice that the ref calls an offensive foul almost every time you try to take a charge at the halfcourt line, are you going to do it every time to run up the score, or to at least get the ball back in a close game?

Welcome to my world.

Yes, I’m a flopper. Forget that I averaged almost 20, 5 and 5 a night last year. Forget my three Larry O’Brien trophies and my Olympic gold medal.

They say that when you’re truly great in this game, they change the rules to slow you down. Wilt used to get it, so did Jordan. They both overcame the changes to continue winning. I’m sure if you’re a Manu hater, you thought of me when the flopping rule was announced at the end of last season. Don’t cry for me (tears of joy or otherwise), friends. Taking the charge is an art for me. These rules are just a new canvas for me to paint my next masterpiece. 2009 could be my renaissance.

* Note – In this instance, Manu Ginobili is Chris O’Leary

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  • KA

    agree with DY’s sentiments. i hate the if so and so cat plays with…game. if you go that route, then you start going off on stuff like, if ghill and penny didnt get injured, if kemp kept things straight and so on and so on. bottom line is, the spurs have 3 guys who, on any given night, can be the best player at their position, and manu is above tony, below duncan. this rating makes sense.

  • Wendy

    Manu > Kobe.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    uhhhhh, Wendy?

  • Anton

    maybe she means in a sucking contest

  • http://slamonline.com Josh D.

    Manu isnt a flopper, he just does what it takes to get calls and win. If you’re gonna call someone a flopper, see Sash Vujacic

  • http://slamonline.com Josh D.

    Manu is the object of ridicule for all non-Spurs fans but an absolute joy for fans of hustle and the Spurs.

  • Brandon

    If Melos name hasn’t been used yet.. it better stay off the list…

    OVER RATED

    Manu wins

    i hate the spurs.

  • David

    Thanks, Chris. I liked the asterisk and wished the rest of the article had a bit more about that mental toughness you commented about. The guy’s an amazing scrappy player that can always get to the hoop and definitely doesn’t deserve the hate.

  • Ryan.T.

    As of right now?? Iverson was a all-star last season and Manu wasn’t. As I said before, if we’re talking about “Player” not “Team Player”, Iverson would have to be top 10 without a doubt. As for the Stephen Jackson comment, he wasn’t the same player back then, that he is now. He never had the freedom to play the style of ball that he does with the Warriors. He’s always been a good all around player but has been given the chance to put up big numbers with the fast pace style he now plays. Plus, Jackson was the X-Factor in helping them win the championship that year. He was a starter, played “D”, and made timely buckets. And David Robinson was still around that year. Finley couldn’t/can’t put up those numbers because he is on the downside of his career. Other wings?? Like who?? Steve Smith? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike Manu Ginobili, he is good, but he’s not the 14th best player in the League. If you want me to say you win….. “You Win” but not really.

  • Ryan.T.

    Or maybe you guys are talking Brent Barry(only shoots 3′s), or a older Sean Elliot. Are those the wings your talking about?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    @ Josh D 5:58: That IS flopping.

  • MoMONEY

    The fact that people are calling Manu overrated makes him underrated in my book… The man is a straight baller

  • Lakersfan24

    wow i dont agree with this one
    i dont think his better than AI or T-Mac

  • Manumaniac

    Why is everybody keep saying that Ginobili is a third option on a good team? I mean, he was the top scorer of the Spurs last year, no?

  • Son of Shawn

    Manu is Overhated

  • Son of Shawn

    The list is only other opinion, all we know that Slam loves AI, Sheed and Chauncey, ignores Prince (most solid Piston last years), and hates Gasol (without him Lakers´ll NEVER pass 1st round) or T-MAC (but they don´t talk about Wade´s last year “injury”). I think that Wade or Gil can´t be so high (thinking on last season injuries), and people like Turkoglu or Calderón could be in the list (due to last season play); the thing is that today KG is top 1 (just think about C´s last two seasons)

  • Son of Shawn

    Why Kidd is on the list “today”?, due to Dallas fiasco?, or to his 5 min per game in the Olympics?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    @ Manumaniac: By .3 points.

  • Camb0dia

    can we call manu a winner at least?

  • clos1881

    What are these ratings being based on at first I was kinda with slam on most of the ranking but after I saw gilbert arenas ahead of AI and Tmac I started to wonder what the hell yall were thinking now you have Manu ahead of Yao Tmac and AI there isnt a game in basketball that would take Manu over Yao or Tmac Manu is not a guy you build a team a around he’s great third option maybe second he’s not the best or second best on his own team does anyone believe the Rockets would be better if Manu and Tmac switched spots I doubt it but the spurs would be tremendously better with Tmac and I havent even seen where Dirk is ranked but its two high for a choker another thing if Tmac had two all star caliber players around him the way Manu does im sure he would have at least one ring. but would houston go to the playoffs with just Yao and Manu ?

  • Gonn

    Manu is by far the greatest interanational player ever to play the game.He is athletic,a goo defender,a 3pt shooter,a scorer and above all a team player.You said that Arenas,Iverson and Tmac could play with Tim Duncan and be coach by Pop?I don’t think so.I really believe that Iverson would get mad if he should take 5 less shots,pass first or really defend.The same with Tmac,Arenas,Melo,Baron and others stars from this league.They don’t play for theirs teams they play for their stats.Manu is just as talented as these guys an could play in non-playoff team and score 25 easily with 45%,but he prefers to be in a contender team and sacrifice himself fot benefit of his team.That’s the difference between a great player and A WINNER like Manu,and just great players like Iverson,Arenas.etc.

  • Manumaniac

    @ Moose: Yeah, ok, so? He still was the top scorer of the Spurs, wasn’t he? And by the way, yes he wasn’t selected to the All Star Game, but he was selected to the All NBA Third Team. I mean, that should mean something…

  • Manumaniac

    Don’t get me wrong. I’ve always believed (and I still believe) that the Spurs are Tim Duncan’s team. No argue about that. But saying that Manu is seeing Tony Parker’s back is ridiculous. He is not as good as Kobe or Lebron, but he is definitely a better player than Tony Parker.

  • Manumaniac

    Also, let’s just make another case here: why does the fact that Ginobili won three rings playing alongside 2 All Stars (Duncan, Parker) means that he is not a great player. James Worthy had Magic and Kareem. Does that mean that Worthy wasn’t a great player? Ray Allen won a championship last year playing alongside KG and Paul Pierce. Does that mean that Ray Allen isn’t a great basketball player?

  • Gui

    Stop saying Manu without Duncan wouldn’t have won what he has. Remember Manu beat Duncan and US Team in 2004 Olympic Games. Argentina was the first team beating US Team with NBA players (World Championship 2002 Indianapolis).
    Manu is a winner, probably the best player in the world. (Sorry my English).

  • Young Chris MP3

    Not better than Iverson.

  • Caleb

    Good points Manumaniac and Gui… I hate all the Manu hate… and I’m a Hornets fan for godsakes.

  • Brandon

    don’t know about best in the world…

  • Manumaniac

    @ Gui: Good point Gui! I also remember that back in that semifinal game against Team USA (2004 Olympic Games) Ginobili scored 30 points or something. Oh, and by the way Allen Iverson was a part of that USA Team and also he was a teamate of Tim Duncan. But he didn’t won the gold medal, Manu did. Does that ring a bell about who’s the best between them or what?

  • Manumaniac

    @ Caleb: I’m a Hornets fan myself (even though I’m from Greece), because of Peja Stojakovic. He’s my all time favourite player. Go Peja!

  • franko

    Also: manu leads his national team to NUMBER ONE place in FIBA rank! (sorry Iversons fans)
    you won gold, but you have no heart. you are…just…simply…second.
    Iverson = empty hands.
    Euroliga 2001
    MVp Europe 2001
    Italy championships in 2000 and 2001
    2003 NBA ring
    2004 Olimpics GOLD medal
    2005 another NBA ring
    2005 All star game
    2007 another NBa ring
    2008 six man
    lead SAS in point and
    won bronce medal
    Iverson?
    the guy next to iguodala?
    oh sorry
    thats melo…

  • http://slamonline.com Josh D.

    All the Manu haters should just admit what an incredible winner has been throughout his career and realize that though Iverson may be a better individual player, he will never achieve the overall success that Manu has.

  • Anton

    flops more than John Kerry

  • jc

    great player, great winner.

  • Vinc3

    much much much too high

  • Shirley

    I love Manu Ginoboli. He’s a great player and Spurs just wouldn’t be quite the same without Manu. You’re great Manu, don’t listen to the others!

  • http://www.youtube.com/mandiixoxo Amanda

    Manu is a winner no matter where he is. He has the power to take over a game, lead in scoring, and hit a game tying 3 from any angle.
    Im surprised Manu hasn’t broken his back with the way he knifes to the rim.
    Manu deserves this number 14 spot.
    He is the ONLY PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY
    to win a Euroleague Title, NBA Title (make that 3), and an Olympic Medal(s)(gold, bronze).
    and not to mention, hes a 6th Man.

  • Cindy

    Is he a flopper? Indeed.
    is he an excellent basketball player and a true leader? Indeed.

    I really really hate the way he plays. But that’s because I don’t root for the Spurs ;)

  • http://slamonline.com Jacob J

    I could name about 100 people that could be higher than him.

  • marianobhi

    manu n0 14??? too low!!!
    He ´s top 10!!!
    Iverson has to play with his own ball, the rest with another ball

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