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Thursday, March 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  126 responses

Shaq’s Hit List Grows: Stan Van Gundy, Come on Down!

by Marcel Mutoni

During his 16-year career, if there’s one thing we’ve learned about Shaquille O’Neal, it’s that in the blink of an eye, he can turn from the fun-loving goofball that everyone enjoys, into someone far more bitter and vicious.

The latter was on display last night prior to the matchup with Miami, as O’Neal reacted angrily to his former coach Stan Van Gundy’s wholly correct assessment that Shaq had turned into the Big Flopper when going up against Dwight Howard.

From the Arizona Republic:

“He (Dwight Howard) came with the same old, stale Patrick Ewing move so I tried to stand there and take the charge. The new rules say if you come through, you fall. But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career. The one thing I despise is a frontrunner. First of all, none of his players like him. When it gets tough, he will become the master of panic like he did before and he will quit like he did before.”

“Stan Van Gundy reminds me of a broke navigational system. He knows everything about everything but ain’t never been nowhere. When a bum says some (stuff) and I respond, you can (expletive) cancel that ’cause I know how he is in real life. We’ll see when the playoffs start and he (expletive) panics and quits like he did when he was here. Do I look soft to you like you can say something and I’m not going to say something?”

“I said this a long time ago but I was actually talking about him (Van Gundy). When the general panics, the troops will panic…All the players hate him.”

Lovely.

When reached by reporters, Van Gundy took the character assassination in stride, saying that’s just how Shaq is. I wonder how long O’Neal will wait until he tries to paint this as just another one of his “marketing” ploys.

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  • three food items and their life together in South Jersey

    what a douche

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Truth hurts, Stan.

  • John D

    Shaq = 50 Cent

  • http://hoops4life.com overtime

    It was funny in the beginning, the mood all changed

  • http://www.thedailydott.com Michael

    I don’t think we want to remember Shaq as a bitter guy but if he keeps that up (as funny as it is) that’s how he will be remembered. Anyone else tired of his big head?

  • Funkdoc

    Who does he think he is? oh, wait. Shaq…right

  • thesubwayconnection

    Whoa.

  • Michael

    getting very boring

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    Hey Stan, tell him how his ass taste.

  • Myung

    I love Shaq, but I think he needs to grow some thicker skin. SVG was on point the other night. No need for Shaq to make it personal, just because he got called out.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Shaq is actually getting funnier.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    lol @ the same old,stale Patrick Ewing move

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com cordeazy

    tell em why you mad son!

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com cordeazy

    shaq is giving out ass tasting samples in aisle 4

  • The Last Kings Fan

    Did Shaq ever play for Van Gundy in the playoffs? Didn’t Riley take over after SVG “resigned” midway through their championship season?

  • http://allanzuss@yahoo.com Mendel

    Is this a sample of what Shaqs last year will look like. Going to every city and slaming someone in their organization. do do do di dooo I’m lovin it.

  • AZ

    The new rules say if you come through, you fall. But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career.

  • Tuomas

    Allow me to repeat myself from yesterday. There’s probably a million suitable quotes, but I’ll settle with just this rant from the ‘01 finals. On Mutombo (who actually didn’t even flop much but just wasn’t able to dodge Shaq’s elbows to his face): “I didn’t think the best defensive player in the game would be flopping like he did. It’s a shame the referees bought into that. (…) I wish he would stand up and play me like a man instead of flopping and crying every time I back him down. It’s just a shame. You can quote me on that. And underline it three times. (…) I wanted to do a little more but boy wouldn’t play me straight up”. And that was from a game they actually won. SVG’s reaction would’ve probably been even better if Dwight did get the charge. Like on the all-time classic level.

  • http://www.myspace.com/hemantsbeats what

    Ironically, Stan van Jeremy probably has had his own ass tasted during the course of one of his films.

  • Tuomas

    Oh, and this: “One thing I hate is a hypocrite”. Me too Shaq, me too. When you assemble a career’s worth of moans about people flopping against you, I don’t think it’s too much to ask that you be a man about it when you get called out for doing the exact same thing. With that said, Shaq’s still an awesome player. Stan van also might choke in the playoffs. Nice. Unfortunately that has nothing to do with Shaq getting caught with his pants down.

  • http://www.alloutblitz.com cordeazy

    the only insult he left out was that Shaq is secretly Van Gundy’s father, and also the father of Van Gundy’s kids.

  • Franchise

    Honestly i appreciate Shaq for what he brought to my beloved Heat but he has no right to say some of the things he’s been saying lately. I have no more respect for him. Entertaining..yes but very disrespectful.

  • http://www.thedailydott.com Michael

    Hey SLAM when he retires can we have

    SLAM Presents…….Shaq

    An entire issue on the big fella would make interesting reading especially if he wrote it all himself.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Really, just don’t go at Shaq. I think Van Gundy was trying to be funny, but his tone came off like he was taking shots at diesel, especially the line about “playing like a man”. Shaq could’ve responded better and taken it as a joke, but he didn’t, it pissed him off and he took the gloves off. I can’t say I’m mad at him for it.

  • niQ

    i duno y’all, but it sounds like shaq has been pms-ing a lot more lately..

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    ( british lord of the manor voice) HOW RUDE! (british lord of the manor voice)

  • The Seed

    Who cares about Shaq, his career is over, so to stay in the spotlight he has to take shots at Rupaul, Ron Jeremy and Wanna be Superman. I have always felt Shaq causes drama from his LA days with Kobe, but Kobe got blamed, because everybody loves Shaq-NOT ME. I feel he talks too much and needs to back up his words. Shaq is behind Wilt, Russell, Oljawon, Kareem, and Duncan-he plays center sometimes. Shaq needs to shut up and retire. I feel he is hurting his image and really showing people what he is, THE BIG JERKASTOLOGIST.

  • Young Chris MP3

    Fact is, the Shaq hate will continue while he’s on bad teams that don’t have a chance of succeeding, but he’s doing more with less than most. Right now he’s on Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James’ level in terms of that. A healthy Shaq gets thrown into elite categories. Something Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard, and Stan Van Gundy can’t at the moment. (And before the backlash hits with the Dwight fans, I know dude is among the most talented players in the league, but his game is FAR from elite).

  • http://ungoinkillmepannuh.blogspot.com Esco

    Everyone is laughing at how funny all of this is but isn’t realizing that Shaq hardly addresses the flop. He goes on and on about something totally unrelated. What does the fact that he egrariously flopped against the Magic have to do with Stan’s coaching during the playoffs years ago when he was the coach of the Heat? Nothing. You b!tch about something for years, and then you’re caught doing the exact same thing now because you most probably could not defend Dwight on the spin, and then you decide to dish dirt on the coach because he correctly called you out for it? Just like you have done countless times? B!tch move. Just admit you flopped and move on.

  • http://docfunk.blogspot.com Doc Funk

    Shaq talking about the playoffs? Orlando is 3rd in the East and PHX is 3 games back of the 8-spot in the West.

  • CHE

    Esco we can all agree that Shaq flopping has never been an issue in his career. We can probably count on three fingers how many times Shaq has done it in his career. For Van Gundy to point it out like it was something Shaq does all the time is stupid. Shaq understood he flopped, he admitted it but to have a career out of flopping like alot of these centers do against Shaq because they can’t guard him is what Shaq complains about. The guy can’t even create space to get to the basket without the refs calling a charge on him. I think van gundy should have kept his mouth shut and not made a big deal about it considering they didn’t call a charge. Why make it an issue?

  • CHE

    I will agree that Shaq is the new Kanye of basketball and won’t keep his mouth shut, but why provoke him. Really who is van gundy to speak on shaq flopping? I don’t think he is a horrible coach but by no means is he a great coach either. He should just stick to keeping his mouth shut.

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    My favorite part: “Dwight came at me with the same old stale Pat Ewing move.” That is hilarious.

  • Arvydas Sabonis

    Just when I think Shaq coudn’t be any more of a b*itch, he comes out with this. Bravo.

  • Erik

    im from orlando, an still a big shaq fan, but ya he is starting to get ridiculous, he was’nt talkin all this ish back last year when his numbers were not that good. First his Kobe lovin at the all-star game,than this, shaq is makin himself out to look like a punk

  • http://fdklf.com Jukai

    Shaq’s right. I guess it’s the popular thing to do today to disagree and hate Shaq, but he’s right about everything he said.
    Going with the Ciolkstar route here.

  • JESSEG

    You know the sad thing is you can already see what’s going to happen when he leaves phx. He is going to come out and bash all of the Suns players and say how nothing was ever his fault. Then you look at every situation he has been in and he is the only constant in all of them. You can tell already him and Amare don’t get along well anymore. I’m almost positive Nash feels this way about Shaq too. Sure everyone see’s Shaq looking pretty good this year, but everyone fails to mention that ever since he arrived in Phx they are much worse TEAM with him on it.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Shaq went crazy.
    He insulted Dwight, again.
    Got Stan Van Gundy, again.
    And then got Patrick Ewing just for good measure.
    Crazy.
    Also, that was a nice move by Dwight that Shaq flopped on. Square up, hard dribble right and spin back. That’s what he needs to work on.

  • http://ungoinkillmepannuh.blogspot.com Esco

    @CHE: My point exactly. We KNOW Shaq is not a flopper. Therefore, is his reaction to it necessary? We know he usually takes things to another level, but generally keeps things lighthearted and fun. But there seems to be genuine anger here against SVG. He got caught doing what he complains the most about. But instead of manning up and being like “Ok, got me. Now we really see that floppers don’t prosper”, we see Shaq becoming aggressive, making an issue out of a simple comment. A valid one. Like you asked: “Why make it an issue?”

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Also, the real problem with Van Gundy in Miami was that DWade got hurt against the Pistons in that one conference final. If Wade is healthy that year, they probably beat the Pistons and get to the Finals in 2005. When Wade got hurt, Shaq couldn’t carry the team because Ben Wallace had his thick @ss on lock.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Young Chris
    You must be kidding about Shaq doing more with less.
    Name a single team Shaq has played on since his second year in the league that has not had talent. Every time Shaq has had career success he’s played with an All-NBA caliber guard on the wing. Seriously, check the history.
    The Magic had Penny. All-NBA.
    The Lakers had Kobe, All-NBA.
    The Heat had DWade, All-NBA.
    Even when Shaq improved the Magic in his rookie season, they had Nick Anderson and Scott Skiles, two decent pros. And don’t forget those Laker teams with Nick Van Exel and Eddie Jones that consistently got swept out of the playoffs by Utah and San Antonio.
    Shaq is great, but he ain’t carrying bums like Lebron.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Finally, Shaq started flopping once he stopped being able to jump, or move laterally. So, he’s been flopping fairly regularly since he came to Miami. Check the old videos, this ain’t nothing new.

  • donlaker

    memo to shaqtus: you lost the game….in orlando
    so you look stupid, no the lakers are not going to retire your jersey any time soon..because your mouth kills what rep you had left, and all this stuff you say is to fire you and your team up.
    even your wife took you for money,so how does it feel to be a cactus that gets pissed on…and dwight howard schooled you, so give up that superman drag….because you are out like terrell owens

  • http://www.twitter.com/kevinchung Kevin

    holy sh*t.. that was haaaaarsh, even if it was mostly true..

  • vtrobot

    When I first saw that tumble, I laughed because it looked like it was straight out of Vlade’s book. There really wasn’t even much contact and the 400 lb. man was “knocked” too the ground. SVG went a little overboard since it was the only flop that I can ever remember seeing Shaq do. Shaq crossed some lines too, but that’s partly because he was probably embarrassed, partly because SBG attacked him w/o reason, and partly because he’s Shaq. “it reminded me of SVG’s whole coaching career.” Ouch. SVG never really quit, right? Pat just stepped in when he realized that he could lead another team to a championship.

  • luke

    Very,VERY boring now.Shaq shut the hell up you idiot…..same old stale Pat Ewing move?Oh right thats why Dwight had more points than you the other night..yeah it must not have worked.And I was there at the game,worst flop I have ever seen,douche.

  • Diesel

    Shaq’s just looking like a bitter old man waving his fist in the air, screaming at kids to get off his lawn. So he makes fun of Bosh, Dwight, SVG, and rumors that he has beef with WADE. All that in addition to Kobe and Phil. I just find it funny that he shut up last year and most of this year. Then the dude has 2 good games and now he can criticize others?? And if anyhting, Riley was the quitter that left a bad team and wanted to come back when SVG made it good again.

  • Matthew

    Love how Shaq hasn’t said anything in about 3 years now and he has a couple of good games and is talking $#(t again. I didn’t hear any of this coming out of his mouth last year when he was averaging 13 and 8.

  • John D

    Shaq has no right to call anyone a frontrunner after his magical resurgence after he got traded to Phoenix.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    AllenP:He also changed his pivot foot,a trademark of the NBA bigman.

  • Clockwork

    To quote SLAM from about 10 years ago: F*ck Shaq you know?

  • BostonBaller

    @The Seed: Shaq isn’t trying to stay in the limelight, it just shines on him. I’m sure it was a 2 way street in LA and don’t forget Kobe had his own drama w/out Shaq.

    @Esco: “Everyone is laughing at how funny all of this is but isn’t realizing that Shaq hardly addresses the flop.” He did address the flop and as far as “he egrariously flopped against the Magic”, he flopped 1x in the game. lol (egregiously?)
    @ Erik: As far as Shaq not talking smack last year when “his numbers were not that good” it’s hard to hear the smack talking when no ones interviews him. lol. Shaq did sound off last year. As far as his numbers last year all you have to do is look at the number of touches he got to figure out his scoring drop and don’t forget the injuries.

  • BostonBaller

    @JESSEG: “ever since he arrived in Phx they are much worse TEAM with him on it” They were not going anywhere before he arrived so how much worse could they be. They ran Shaq’s 1st year and he wasn’t as involved even though his presence freed up STAT and Nash more, this year most of the team quit on Porter (Shaq’s fault I guess). This year they have a totally different team and are injury riddled. ( Shaq’s fault I guess). How many former teammates has Shaq belittled? I’m curious.

    @Young Chris: I ask you what has the players you mentioned won without Shaq? (Penny DWade Kobe)The only one who has done anything in the playoffs w/out Shaq is Kobe and it’s safe to say he has had some really good talent around him as well (better talent than Nick, E Jones, N Anderson) lol. Lebron’s squad that went to the finals weren’t exactly bums and they got there with the East having 1 good team to beat that year (Detroit) and they imploded. lol.

    @donlaker: Shaq’s numbers were good against Orlando and don’t forget Howard AND his running mate had a really good games. As far as Shaq’s wife, I believe he left her and not the other way around. hahaha They were together during ASG weekend.

  • BostonBaller

    ..just got busted by the boss…can I have a job SLAM? I do windows…lol

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Izzo, I can’t argue with you about that. Everybody changes pivot feet in the NBA.
    And all the Euro cats set moving screens. Every time.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    BostonBaller
    Come on man. You know Shaq has had crazy talent.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Allenp:But in the grand scheme of things,things like changing pivot foots,calling travelling and actual allowing players to play some form of perimeter D without hearing whistles should be of more importance than whether or not someone flopped and should be seen to immediately,but I know they won’t.
    BTW,I agree with you on the moving screens,but I would consider that a hazy one and down to ref discretion.Same goes for charging calls,a lot of charges called in the NBA lately are either blocking fouls or very hard to call,but guess who gets the call?Offense.

  • donlaker

    shaq still has a pivot foot? shaq did have talent, but since then dude cant leave fatburger alone….is he playing for a new contract …
    because his best chance would have been with labron /cavs , steve kerr must have something up his sleeve at seasons end.
    .. i will admit i do have shaq rapping on vinyl i even have jason kidd rapping and cedric ceballas trying to rap over a warren g beat… shaq go back to acting
    that role as the robot dude was hot… @boston baller, dude work for,yourself and meet me at venice beach b ball courts saturday 10 am

  • ka

    oh god shaq y u do dis???!!!!!

  • aotearaw

    Absolute gold. Keep pissing Shaq off please, I want more….

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    I feel the same way as aotearaw, actually. Shaq’s responses don’t seem entirely serious. Nothing can touch him right now.

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    i dunno ryne. you can diss people in good nature and it’ll be lighthearted and funny, but this one sounds like those awkward mood killers where nobody knows what to say or do after its been said.

  • jdubbs29

    D-Ho tried and punk me in the post
    with that old Ewing move he love the most
    Yeah it was a flop, but get off my case
    Stan Van Jeremy, tell me how my ass taste
    I’m 37 and my game’s evolved
    like the Pythagorean Theorem, i still can’t be solved
    So take your hate back with you to Disney World
    I’ll be on a new team next year singing “F the free world!”

  • Leeboy

    I guess slam can’t released what Stan Van Gundy said. Show both sides man

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    “But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career.” – Shaq making formal introductions to Stan and a bus.

  • BostonBaller

    AllenP: No doubt Shaq had talent around him, I’m just saying that both Kobe & James also had talent around them when they went to the finals and lost. As nice as Nick the Quick or N Anderson was I’d take Fisher over either of them. Gasol is no slouch either.

    @donlaker The boss I spoke of was my wife. lol. I’d love to meet you at venice beach on saturday but I can’t waste a perfectly warm 50 degree day here in Boston. It’s in the high 20′s right now. Come up here and we can shovel off a court and play. Boston vs LA style. lol

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    OK! That was too far. Its one thing to say Bosh is RuPaul but then call out both dwight and stan… c’mon thats classless.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    @ BostonBaller: Wait youre calling the 07 Cavalier team talented? The same one with larry hughes? and damon jones? and ira newble? who all were part of the rotation?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Wow, f*ckin stupid @ss Shaq. Shut the f*ck up you washed-up motormouth f*cker.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    And I’m pretty sure it was Pat Riley who MADE Stan quit on the Heat so he could coach…
    Correct me if I’m wrong about this I’m not too sure.
    Regardless, Shaq is a dumb@ss.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    @ Teddy: i think it was family related. pat isnt the kind of person to tell someone to walk.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Shaq’s greatest talent was being able to blatantly elbow the living daylights out of post defenders, without getting called on it.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    ok teddy. lets not knock shaqs game now. just call him a bad free throw shooter and call it a day. the man is a hall of famer.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ jdubbs29: The Pythagorean theorem can’t be solved?
    LOL

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Anyways, Shaq needs to the shut up big time, hall of famer or not. Dwight Howard is his daddy right now. So is Yao. So is Stan Van Gundy.

  • http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=243084247 Witness

    Yao or Dwight > Shaq

  • KozmicKid

    Van Gundy, you been served, shaqatized…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I co-sign that, Witness.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Well, I’ve had enough Shaq-bashing for now. I’ll be back later though.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, was there a tone of Shaq talking sh!t about Dwight’s mentor, Patrick Ewing? WOW. Patrick Ewing didn’t have to commit offensive fouls every time he went for a post move. Shaq is an idiot. If Patrick Ewing was playing in his prime, in an era without the Jordan-Bulls, he would have had multiple championships.
    Shaq is a punk.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    argghh I can’t help it! alright, I’m out, peace!

  • CP34MVP

    Shaq is dope, Stan Van should of never said anything. Its Shaq for God’s sake. This is what he gets. And for the talking about Dwight.. Thumbs down Shaq. He’s the next you. Your little prodigy. And for you to tear him down. Terrible.

  • john

    im a lifelong miami heat fan and respect shaq; as a player. as a person, shaq is a five year old trapped in a giants body lol.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    I am honestly getting tired of Shaq. I get he epitomizes what old school NBA is all about and he’s funny now and again, but this ish is getting damn old. I also know I’m in the minority here, but I wouldn’t miss him all that badlywhen he retires. Yeah, take random shots at anyone and everyone, but when someone makes a legitimate criticism about you, you start playing the b*tch role. “All the players hate him!”? Please. Get the f*ck out of here.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Allenp is right about his success coming with not only Allstar guards, but ALL-NBA guards. Yeah people focus on Kobe not having won without Shaq, but the reverse is also true. Who took every big shot en route to that 2006 ring? Don’t think it was the big fella.
    I’m not hating on his good teams. It’s merely worth pointing out because everytime Diesel gets at somebody, he brings out the rings card as if He = Championship.

  • Young Chris MP3

    BostonBaller (my fellow Bostonian and Celtics fan) was my favorite commenter while he ethered the Shaq haters one by one… That is, until he mentioned my name. I was vouching for the Diesel because Lebron brings his “teams” to the playoffs each year and got to the Finals two years ago with an embarrassing supporting cast and I think it’s pretty fair to say that Chris Paul maximizes his team’s potential (did anybody notice how the Hornets played in the games he missed earlier this year?). Diesel stepped his game up big time when Nash went out, and he’s been doing it all year with a weak (and defensively challenged) Phoenix Suns squad. The fact that they are in contention for the playoffs at all the way that team outside of Shaquille O’Neal has played this year is an accomplishment in itself (kind of like Mike on the Wizards).

  • chintao

    Shaq is a flatulent elephant. Only sophomoric layabouts could be charmed by his absurd monologues. I sincerely hope that he dies broke, lonely, and crippled.

  • Young Chris MP3

    And tealish, the Miami Heat were a coach away from winning it in ’05. If anyone can recall, the master of panic was calling plays that focused on Rasual Butler and Eddie Jones during the game 6 that Dwyane Wade sat out against Detroit. Rasual Butler!

  • Young Chris MP3

    And as much as I love Damon Jones, don’t anybody try to argue his value on that team to me. A healthy Shaq and a healthy Wade would have meant Miami repeating in ’06.

  • Young Chris MP3

    In regards to Shaq’s championship potential, if Miami would have traded Marion and Banks back to the Suns for Diesel this year, or if the Lakers traded Bynum and Odom for Diesel this year, or if Cleveland would have given up Wally-World for Diesel as Phoenix apparently asked for (what was Danny Ferry on when he passed that one up?), it would have meant an automatic ring for this year and a great chance at repeating next year for any of those teams.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Shaq should stop this. He’s looking insecure, looking like he can dish it out in droves but can’t take the slightest bit of criticism. I don’t want to remember him for this.

  • Tuomas

    Jesus, you go outside for a few hours to take a jolly good piss up, and when you come back and see there’s 85 comments, you expect that someone has said something (anything!) that would refute even a sentence of what you said originally. But no.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Young Chris: Auto ring? Uh no. I’m sorry, but I believe you’ve fallen for the Shaq = Ring self-distributed propaganda. But don’t beat yourself up on it, Large Cactus is convincing. I’m sure he almost believes his own sh*t, himself.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Joel: Exactly. No one’s knocking what he’s done in the past, that stuff can’t be touched. And yet he constantly refers back to it. But unfortunately, his LA days *can* be overshadowed, at least in part, by the nonsense he can’t stop spewing nowadays.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Tuomas: Haha, what were you expecting? “Shaq is the greatest ever and all the rest of you can tell him how his ass taste?”

  • Tuomas

    “Shaq’s arrogance is an insult to people who think.” coming from my least favorite announcer of all time, this really says it all.

  • Tuomas

    I don’t know Joel, maybe I’m just too much of a Let-every-flower-blossom kinda dude.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @tealish: I agree. The sad irony is as much as Shaq keeps claiming his “Shogun” status in comparison to the young, promising big men around right now, his comments of late have come off as impetuous and childish… and starkly in contrast to Dwight (who said he was hurt instead of lashing back) and Bosh (who took the high road and downplayed the entire thing). And that’s not even considering the things he said about Stan and Ewing. Elder statesman Shaq is, ironically, behaving like the new kid on the block shooting his mouth at his elders, while Bosh/Dwight, barely a few years removed from their TEENS, are taking the high road. Seriously, please stop this, Shaq.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Tuomas: That’s a lot of quotes! Haha.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    And it’s not like the criticism against Shaq (by Dwight, Bosh, Stan) got even remotely personal. Bosh was essentially complaining about the refs. Dwight wasn’t even attacking Shaq, he was just lamenting the lack of support Shaq gave him. And Stan made a fair observation that even Shaq himself admitted to (flopping). And there’s a LOT of hurtful, personal things you could say about how Shaq handled himself over his career, many of which were brought up by the other commenters here. Bosh/Dwight/SVG never even remotely went near there, so Shaq’s tirade is really unwarranted.

  • Tuomas

    By Shaq’s standards, Patrick now pretty much has a right to call him whatever he wants, no matter how unrelated it might be. However, somehow I doubt that he will. Joel, the best thing is that nothing really needs to be added to what Shaq has said himself. Just line them up and shake your head.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    I also think he was a bit oversensitive about the flopping accusations, because he’s spent the past what, 15 seasons overpowering opponents and ridiculing their manhood as they futilely tried to draw charges against him… and all of a sudden, here’s this one play where the the current Man of Tomorrow jukes him with a spin move and HE flops. He’s insulted the manhood of essentially every big man he’s faced in his career (Erica Dampier, Vlade’s Sacto Queens, Mutombo… I could go on) and, coming off his recent Rupaul insult of Bosh’s softness, the mere MENTION of Shaq flopping probably seems like the entirety of all those insults have been thrown back at him in the mind of every fan, player and sportswriter out there. IMHO this is why he’s reacting so strongly.

  • http://slamonline WeezyLeezy

    ****Disrespect Shaq back in the day?!?!? Muff*cka was a 300 lbs ROOKIE! Mike Jordan(G.O.A.T.)was THE man, but dont get it twisted, Big Shaq Diesel most dominant alltime. PERIOD. Only Wilt could f*ck wit that. Flop or no flop. (No disrespect to B Russ and Kareem but rings AINT everything)****

  • http://slamonline WeezyLeezy

    TeddyBear, Dwight Howard is his DADDY now??? Really?! Im pretty sure this all started when “Superman Returns” was cryin about how Shaq wouldnt help him with his game, a week after he got SONNED by Nate “Kryptonite” Robinson suttin real HARDBODY

  • http://slamonline WeezyLeezy

    Flop or no flop

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Weezy aka Lil’ Wayne sucks:
    Shaq sucks now compared to Dwight. Yes, Dwight is his daddy. Apparently Dwight is your daddy, too.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    LOL Shaq better than Russel and Kareem? Are you KIDDING?
    Do you people see what I mean when I say SHAQ IS OVERRATED?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    In other words, co-sign tealish.

  • Young Chris MP3

    teddy bear is crazy

  • BBAller

    I have watched the NBA for 30 years now,sorry firstly this shaq debate is f’n boring, anyway like i said, i’ve watched the nba for a long,long time and the big man’s game is what intrigued me to begin with.You can say all you want with sentiment, but Shaq is the MDE. full stop. Wilt and russel were just athletic big men surrounded by 6ft 4 white guys. shaq would have put 150 on them.I don’t really like shaq but he was in the era of many dominant big men like Ewing,D Rob,Hakeem,TDuncan,Alonzo,Mutumbo and KG and in his peak, trashed all of them.You have to respect him not like him.Can we please talk about BBall and end this DOUL crap

  • BBAller

    Sorry i forgot to mention Divac,Sabonis,R.Smits and Camby, shaq who destroyed over the years.Can anyone say wilt or russell had more than 3 formiddable opponents during a season or career.Kareem Abdul jabba is the only one who would of posed a risk to shaq’s dominance.Please note i don’t like shaq but you have to give credit where credit is due.Just imagine shaq in the 60s and 70s….scarey.With that said i still think he is a big mouth and should not have flopped, but what do you all think?

  • Randy Brown

    Shaq is becoming the old guy who talks about how he can still play but all he does is grab people when they try and outrun him on the break

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    chintao
    Layabouts? Homie, that is gangsta.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Y’all cats must not realize that Wilt was an athletic freak, right? I mean, homie was an All American at high jump! He was slightly bigger than Tim Duncan and three times the athlete. And guess what, Tim Duncan gives Shaq fits on defense and has for years. You know why? Because Tim Duncan makes Shaq make shots, he boxes out on rebounds and he forces the refs to call all of Shaq’s B.S.

  • jose

    shaq is my fav player, but im kinda not feelin tha commemt

  • http://indianz.com R3Z

    T.W.I.S.M.
    The NBA its Shaqtastic!
    I love this game!

  • http://www.mckennamagic.blogspot,com D-Mac

    Shaq is like a master politician. He is dancing around the issue and creating so much diversion that no one remembers why he was called out in the first place

  • L33tSauce

    Why is the big(gest) baby talking? the “man” who crys and refuses to play just because he wants a new team is talking trash? Retire already. It’s not that your still good, Shaq, its that the NBA just doesn’t have good big men minus very few players, like Dwight Howard.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ BBaller: Are you kidding me? Uhhh, what about WILLIS REED, Jerry Lucas, Wes Unseld, Dave Debusschere, Artis Gilmore.
    And you say there weren’t dominant big men when Wilt and Russell played?
    The 80′s and 90′s were great for big men (whaddup Ewing!), but seriously, to say that Wilt and Russell never had any strong contemporaries is bull.

  • L33tSauce

    Not to add that with that argument you have to factor new things today, NBA trainers working guys harder, supplements going all around sports, better conditions for training and working out.

    Shaq may be top 5 in big men, but hell if he’s top 3.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Chintao sure doesn’t like certain previous (and current) Lakers stars. Crippled? Really, man?

  • Joseph

    Hell hath no fury like a fat man’s scorn.

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  • larrylegend

    after getting hit so many times from other players over about 16 seasons (and mostly staying calm….don’t forget you,brad), it’s time for shaq, as long he’s in the active game, to give some back.
    go ahead diesel, we’ll miss you soon.

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