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Thursday, June 4th, 2009 at 2:29 pm  |  95 responses

Rasheed to the Cavs?

by J. Gamble

My sources say that Rasheed Wallace and the Cavs are beginning talks on a two-year deal worth about $10 million per for the services of the former Piston. The move and negotiations were inspired by Dwight Howard’s dominant performance over Cleveland’s big men in the Eastern Conference Finals.  And Wallace will be brought in for that very purpose, to neutralize Dwight Howard next season and help the Cavs get over the hump.

This supports what we previously reported about what it will take for Sheed to come back next year.

If this signing falls through, I’m hearing that Cleveland may do a sign and trade with the Clippers for Zach Randolph, which certainly makes sense for the Clippers since they are taking Blake Griffin No. 1 overall.

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  • http://Slamonline Eboy

    Sweet, First!!!

  • Franchise

    If those were my two options, i’d take Sheed. Z-BO puts up pretty nice numbers but he’s a flight risk.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Interesting stuff, though they should’ve just traded for Shaq. Also, I think we have an Eboy imposter.

  • http://www.manutd.com/ Z

    Mmm… Zach gives them the low post scorer that they’ve never had… but he’s Zach Randolph. A proven loser, good things rarely happen for a team when Randolph is involved. LBJ might tear his ACL just because of the messed up karma. / Sheed DOES seem to neutralize Dwight. I have no clue why, though. 10 mil per is outrageous though.

  • http://theghostofroyhobbs.blogspot.com Mo Charlo

    and the Lord said it was good.

  • Ken

    We got Zach Randolph y’all! You think he’s going right…but he’s going LEFT!

  • Shaqtus

    They should’ve just tried to get Shaq. Cleveland is dumb.

  • Great Balls O’Fire

    Wallace is washed up. Too many miles. Howard would use the “People’s Elbow” with devastating results.

  • Great Balls O’Fire

    make that “Peoples’ Elbow”

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    Man, I wanna keep rooting for Sheed. But, whoever pays him is gonna get burned.

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    Jeez. Sheed for 10 mill or Z-BO for nearly twice that? Way to shoot for the stars, Ferry. Is Cleveland TRYING to get rid of Bron?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Hmmm, $10 mil per and 2 years for Sheed or $14.7 per and 3 years for ZBo? Is there an option C?

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    Wow. They might as well trade the Kang while they can still get something in return if this is the way Cleveland’s front office plans on operating.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Thanks for pointing that out, Big Ben. And if I’m the Cavs, I’d WAY prefer taking Sheed over Zaach any day….even at that price tag.

  • Eric

    Crazy. You all are. Sheed is a big pain, but his ability to get inside Dwight’s head is not to be denied. Not to mention, compared to Z and Varejo, this is a major upgrade. Take it from a Magic fan, I HOPE this does not go through. You can get Randolph all you want, good player, but not the intimidator Sheed is. And 5 mil a year for Sheed is a very low price for a player of his production. Low post presence, outside threat, two needs for the price of one if you are Cleveland.

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    If Cleveland thinks either one of these guys are even part of the soultion to their problems they’re in big, big trouble.

  • niQ

    this looks good. it’s as if they’re bringing the pistons back together into cleveland. Ben wallace will meet sheed again! (unless of course, they both retire)

  • http://www.manutd.com/ Z

    not 5 eric, 10 per… I know Sheed is bada$$ but he really looked like someone that was punching in at the shop on the court this year.

  • http://www.manutd.com/ Z

    Guys like STAT and CB4 are letting it be known that they’d welcome a change of scenery. JKidd has lobbied to play with LBJ. Turk is an unrestricted FA this summer. The cap is not that important to the Cavs. They will spend to keep Bron.

  • neaorin

    10 million per is way too much for the Sheed of 2009. And Ferry basically had Zach Randolph offered to him on a silver platter by the Knicks and he wouldn’t take him. To do that move now would reek as desperation, which is not good news.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    In terms of current roster spots for the Cavs, Sheed is a absolute stepup in talent from Wallace and Sideshow. That can’t be debated. The money and Sheed’s willingness to play big (no pun intended) would be the only questions.

  • http://none J

    Cavs can’t pay Sheed 10 mil per. They are OVER the cap. They can offer him around 5 per (MLE) but thats it. I am guessing this is a 2yr/10mil(total- 5mil per) deal

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    niQ: The Wallaces reuniting is impossible if Ben doesn’t retire, because he will make 14 mil next season if he stays.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    just what they need. Another old power forward. What, does Danny Ferry only sign players he played against? START A YOUTH MOVEMENT AND SURROUND BRON WITH 5-7 YEAR VETS, Dumba$$

  • knock knock

    Rasheed has the ability to stop dwight. Just cause he knows how.

  • Shaun

    is ya’ll dumb? 2 years 10 million equals 5 million per year u idiots

  • http://slamonlin.com tina

    LOL @ Betcat’s comment

  • Aaron

    ^ obviously your reading comprehension skills aren’t up to par. It clearly says, “…the Cavs are beginning talks on a two-year deal worth about $10 million PER for the services of the former Piston.” So it looks like you’re the “dumb idiot.”

  • money

    i just hope they dont wanna get z-bo to guard dwight. that would be the craziest thing ever. i think cleveland might be able to beat the magic next year without changing their whole team. its not like they lost the ecf and aint a contender next year. most of their players are young and gettin better. theeir loss to the magic was about match up problems at the 4. they could ve played bron at the 4 more to go up against lewis. howard killed them tho,but their are cheaper players in the L they got a body to contain dwight more. i like sheed,but his best days are over. maybe playin with sheed would give ben his passion back.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “Dumb idiot”? The flames on this site are TERRIBLE when i am not involved. Whats next? YALL ARE ALL POOPY PANTS

  • Shaun

    Dude trust me the cavs are not offering 10 million per. i live in ohio and follow the cavs very very very very closely. they wont even have 10 mil to offer. the guy who wrote this is a idiot and so are his sources if they said 10 mill per. their gonna offer him the mle

  • TWANA

    If the cavs get Z-bo instead of sheed I’ll be pissed. Sheed is probably one of the only big man that has a perimeter offense and can score in the post when he wants, sure he has a bad mouth but thats nothin to worry bout for the cavs.

  • Marco

    if sheed goes to the cleveland james it’s over, we can assign already the ’10 championship

  • http://mindyourbusiness@nosybutt.com Allenp

    Man, they should just wait for Bosh.

  • Shaun

    i mean seriously if the cavs had 10 mil to spend dont ya think they’d go after ariza or odom or somebody good? all we have is our mle

  • dekko

    >>My sources say that Rasheed Wallace and the Cavs are beginning talks on a two-year deal worth about $10 million per for the services of the former Piston.<<

    Seems unlikely. They can not talk to “Sheed or any other free agent or their agents until July 1st. I doubt they would risk the penalties.

  • wilz

    thats gonna be a turrrible team. old and egotistic

  • JoeMaMa

    ZBo? For what, 3 Point shooting?
    Get Kaman. Laugh if you will, but when he’s healthy, I see him as a missing piece. Great boards, good moves, active big man. And you know the Clips will give him up for little.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Zach > Kaman. Thanks for playing, dumb@ss.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Sheed is the man. He’d fit great with Cleveland.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Paying an extra $5million for Sheed and being over the cap would be neautralized pretty quick if the Cavs manage to get the ring, becuase of all the exra $$ that would rake in anyways. It’s worth a shot.

  • Rnz

    I dont think sheed can stop Howard though?…He will provide better offense down low, rebounds, and defending players that are his size (Garnett,Gasol)..but for defending Howard?..I dunno man, long shot at best

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    people are getting edgy here lately.

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    Rasheed Wallace hasn’t posted up or played defense since 2006.

  • dennis

    i love all you idiots that are askin ferry – “is that the best you can do?” i mean , the league isn’t built around the cavs getting the best players and teams bending over…i think he has done pretty well considering the past few years…

    sheed though…tough to go from hating this guy to cheering for him…guess will just have to see what happens

  • Ricky

    This is stupid, its not like the Cavs won’t sign Sheed for 10 mil a season, but that its IMPOSSIBLE for them to do so! They are over the cap, even if Big Ben retires and doesn’t take a buyout. You can’t just sign people not already on your team if you are over the cap. You also can’t talk to players or their agents that you want to sign until July 1, for goodness sakes, the finals just started. And this is a basketball website where basketball fans post comments, you are all dumb. Sheed would fit great because he can shoot and for some reason plays good D on Howard, but he would have to fit great at the MLE, which I’m assuming people here know what that is. Also, a sign and trade for Randolph? That implies that someone who is a free agent is signing a deal with a team in order to be immediately traded to another team…but Randolph is already signed with LA for 3 more years, so it would be a regular trade…ummm ok nice basketball knowledge, either your sources suck or you are drunk

    Kamen is 100x better than Zach, he isn’t a moron and he actually plays a little defense. Anyone who thinks Zach is good is on par with Isiah Thomas in basketball IQ

  • rob

    why do a sheed signing to stop howard? doesnt this sound eerily familiar? eg; suns signing shaq to stop TD* THE SUNS NEVER STOPPED TD and they wont stop howard he is only gettin better. besides i doubt the magic will make it that far next year. the celtics barring injury are basically a lock to win the east. perkins is the best lowpost defender against howard and KG not sheed.

  • http://nbacheapseats.blogspot.com Chendaddy

    Jesus Christ. Another epic fail by Danny Ferry. $10 mil a year for a guy turning 37?? Or even more for an overweight proven loser who never learned to pass or play defense??? Should we just start printing No. 23 Knicks jerseys now?

  • rikson

    Isnt the mle limited to just one year?

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  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    Ricky sounded halfway intelligent untill he started slobbing Chris Kaman. The guy is a walking injury and a turnover machine.
    KAMAN = FAIL

  • http://nationofmillions.ca ciolkstar

    Also, the MLE can be for up to three years.
    And the NBA has a “soft cap”, the Cavs can go over, it will juat cost them extra. Losing Bron would cost them hundreds of millions of dollars in the long run, so spending a few extra mill in hopes of getting a chip and convinciong Lebron to stay in the ‘Land would be well worth it.

  • truthteller

    My Pistons better not let Sheed go! Sheed can still get down! Don’t let it happen Joe!!!

  • http://www.manutd.com/ Z

    I’m hearing Charlie V. That actually makes way more sense than Sheed or Z-Bo. 6’11, mobile. Can play the 3 and the 4. They could get him for the MLE. For some reason, the Bucks didn’t play him enough. 22 and 9 per36.

  • Jim

    Yeah, Cav’s can’t offer 10M per year for Sheed, they don’t have the cap space. But if they are able to get him for the MLE on a 2 year deal it’s worth a shot. Sheed isn’t the same player anymore, but for 25 minutes a game he can be solid. On offense Sheed can do what he loves and sit at the 3 point line and space the floor for Lebron. One of the reasons Detroit has owned Orlando lately is b/c of the defense Sheed plays on D. Howard…he probably guards him better then anyone else in the league. Cleveland got killed against Orlando since they always double teamed Dwight and left 3 point shooters open. The question is, with Sheed aging and D. Howard improving will it stay that way?

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  • http://www.nba.com JE

    @Tad: I guess the Shaq trade is still an option..

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  • Quail

    3 team trade: Ilgauskas and a cheap player go to New Orleans, Tyson Chandler to Phoenix, and Shaq to Cleveland. I like that idea for all three teams. can i get an amen?

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Amen

  • underdog

    Fire Mike Brown.

  • http://www.slamonline.com larry

    How do we not have cap room with 7 mil from snow, 13 mil from wally and possibly 14 mil from wallace coming off the books. I honestly do not know a lot about how the cap works, but doesn’t this give us room to go after free agents?

  • http://www.slamonline.com larry

    How do we not have cap room with 7 mil from snow, 13 mil from wally and possibly 14 mil from wallace coming off the books. I honestly do not know a lot about how the cap works, but doesn’t this give us room to go after free agents? And potentially varejo 6 mil

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  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Okay, first of all, this trade isn’t about STOPPING HOWARD. Goodness… Its about getting a legitimate inside player. Rasheed Wallace is one of the best, most versatile power forwards of his generation. He’s on the downside right now, but he’s still going to be of value to the Cavaliers. Oh, but wait, I’m pretty sure the Cavs would rather have Andersen Varejao, right commenters?

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    Yes, underdog, fire the coach of the year.

  • nba kid

    @quail, why would new Orleans give up a young center who finishes paul’s lobs for an aging, unathletic center who can’t run the break?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Haha Ricky: Kaman over Zach? You’re kidding.

  • DARRELL GAILS

    Randolph would be a locker room killer. The Cavs thrived by having team unity and everyone knowing there rolls. I think Randolph could defiantly help on the court its off the court you have to worry about

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Darrell.

  • Brant B

    Just CTC (cut the check) baby!!! That’s all Sheed cares about.

  • J.”The Gambler” Gamble

    I see that people have a lot of concern about the salary cap. In the NBA, technically you can spend as much as you want as long as you abide by the rules and pay the penalties, to do so. Cleveland does have salary cap room and dumping salaries is always an option..this is still not a reason for why it won’t happen.. If Cleveland commences with the package, of course, once it is legal to do so, I am sure they will make the neccessary financial adjustments to get the player they want. As someone else stated earlier, letting LeBron get away because of a few million dollars in salary cap constraints is the dumber move, then paying Sheed , if his signing is even going to make LeBron feel better in the first place. I think he’s leaving and will end up in a larger market anyway.. like NY..

  • Teknyl

    Unfortunately, I don’t think you fully understand the cap system in the NBA J.”The Gambler” Gamble. “In the NBA, technically you can spend as much as you want as long as you abide by the rules and pay the penalties, to do so.” is not true.

    If a team is over the cap (which Cleveland will be unless Big Z opts out which won’t happen, Varajao opts out, and Ben retires which are both likely), they only have the exemptions to spend. Since Wallace was not playing on the Cavs next year, he doesn’t have his Bird rights for the Cavs (only Detroit has his bird rights). That means that only Detroit can go over the cap to resign Sheed.

    If Cleveland wants Sheed, they have to sign him using the MLE (which works out to be a bit over 5 million a year) because they will be over the cap for next season already.

    There is a nice tutorial on the NBA cap on the web, I suggest anyone who doesn’t know how the cap works to read it – http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

    There are also tons of places to find out what teams have cap space – storyteller contracts, shamsports, realgm, and the like.

  • Teknyl

    To spend 10 million a year on Sheed, Cleveland either has to work out a sign and trade with Detroit, dump salary/players to the 3 teams that do have cap space (and I don’t think Detroit will help them with that, so that makes 2), or hope that Z opts out (he said he won’t), that Ben retires and gets a reasonable buyout, AND Varajao opts out.

  • Joe Frosty

    Sign & trade for Zach Randolph. Sign who? Which free agent would they send to the Clippers? Why does it feel like this whole post is bogus and written by someone with limited knowledge of the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement? Come one SLAM, do better.

    A better scenario would be Ben Wallace for Randolph, with the Clips offering a buy-out for Big Ben to clear the roster spot and free up cap space. But that’s a straight trade. Again, try to offer better than nonsense in the future. Your customers deserve better.

  • Dave

    If there’s anything in this story that’s true, it shows that Danny Ferry will REPEATEDLY spend a fortune on has-beens.

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  • john

    SLAM Online, making peter vescey look like a respectable journalist every day.

    Who cares about salary caps or rules…

  • http://ry3030@yahoo.com YouRob

    Thats a nobrainer sign Sheed and the Cavs will contend for the title for 2010.

  • http://www.arinitout.com arin

    I think the “sources” in this story are a few guys at the bar talking about what the Cavs “should do”, but can’t do because of their current cap situation.

  • Marin

    Sign and trade of what? Z-Bo’s under contract for two more years, so he can’t be signed and traded. Cleveland doesn’t really have any free agents that the Clippers would be interested in – particularly because they’ll have to match up to ZBo’s large salary. Maybe Andy, but he’s another big that would take up space that Griffin should have, and he reportedly wants $10 million.

    This just seems like a really BS post.

  • http://flashgamesgalore.com Alex

    I love how you clowns say it would put the Cavs over the cap. They have been over the cap for a few years now you fools. What you think the luxury tax is for. Cavs own dosnt mind paying it. If they would have gotten Shaq at mid season they would have had to pay his 20mil plus another 20 in luxury tax. Now as far as sheed to stop howard, of course it would work, why do you think the piston good or bad have been owner the magic. The magic didnt tank the last few games of the season for nothing. They wanted to avoid detroit at ALL COST in the first round lol

  • DB

    thank you alex that is the first intelligent post i’ve read in this entire thread. Sheed would be exactly what the cavs need to get through orlando in the playoffs next year. he would fill the one hole the cavs have until the cavs can get chris bosh from toronto in 2010 to pair with lebron and mo.

  • teknyl

    It’s obvious alex doesn’t know what he is talking about

    The cavs are over the cap. According to NBA rules (look it up yourselves idiots) you cannot sign another teams free agent for more than the mid range allows. The mid range is 5 million, thus the cavs can’t sign him to a 2 yr/ 10 million a year contract.

    This has nothing to do with the luxury tax. You only pay a dollar for dollar amount if you are way above the luxury tax threshhold.

    My god, it only takes a few minutes of reading to figure this out.

  • Chad

    This makes no sense to the Cavs. Sheed is all but done and in no way a defensive minded big man. He is not worth 10 mill a season or even the 8 mill which appears to be the lowest he will go next year. He is more in the mid level exception range. Zach Randolph is under contract for at least the next 2 years so a “sign and trade” isn’t even possible. Randolph would be a terrible presence in Cleveland, not something you want to bring in to convince LeBron to stick around after 2010.

  • Ben

    Forced Cavs beat writer Brian Windhorst to waste his time by debunking this ignorance.

  • http://facebook.com A Pistons fan

    Who the hell are your sources? None of your rumors have ever came too. You basically are the Stephen Glass of sports writing only a much worse writer. Stop lying, over-exaggerating and misinforming the public.

  • http://facebook.com A Pistons fan

    true* not too

  • Mack

    I would take Sheed over Randolph any day, cuz:

    Cavs + Z-Bo = fail
    but
    Cavs + Sheed = Rings all around

  • Morgan Zest

    I liek any writer that has the balls to report what he feels is an accurate scoop. Most “so-called” journalists these days are more woried about getting invited to a player’s party and being a bitch ass shill, fake celebrity. I have read J.Gamble’s stuff for years and he is usually pretty on point, whether it is music or sports, both of which he has the respect of the industry. And as far as being a bad writer, I know he writes very well and has won awards for his writing. Let’s stop spewing venom and wait and see what transpires. If I am correct he said Rasheed would retire if he doesn’t get 8 million per. Well, let’s see what happens. The Cleveland deal may or may not happen we have to wait and see. Things change. Circumstances change. I hate coach potatoe, monday morning QB’s.

  • Greg

    Learn some reporting.

    10 million per?

    That’s impossible. The Cavs are over the salary cap. It’s also entirely unrealistic. Sheed probably won’t even get a team’s full MLE. Also, teams can’t negotiate for free agents until July 1st.

    This is horrible. Do some research. And also, considering Zach Randolphs HORRIBLE post defense, why in the world would the Cavs want him?

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  • http://www.hayden.com Joball McGhee

    With incentives i belive Rasheed’s deal with the Celtics exceeds 8 million dollars.It seems J.Gamble was right. It is hard to be the first to report on something. Facts change. I red some other stuff by you. Fearless reporting slam is lways looking to be more than a feature magazine.

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