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Thursday, November 5th, 2009 at 10:30 am  |  57 responses

What to Do With Anthony Randolph?

The guy who should know, his coach, doesn’t seem to have a clue. (Here’s a crazy idea, Don: play the guy): “Randolph is listed at 6-foot-11 but says he’s closer to 7- foot. He once was considered the team’s long-term solution at power forward, and many believed that he could develop into a ’3′ with his assortment of skills. No one seems to know what to make of the second-year player anymore. ‘He’s probably taller than anybody I’ve got on the team right now, and he’s still growing, they tell me,’ Nelson said. ‘Maybe, eventually, center will be his position. I don’t know.’ One thing is certain: The future is not now. Starting center Andris Biedrins picked up his third foul in the opening six minutes against Memphis on Wednesday night, but Nelson didn’t turn to Randolph. Instead, the coach opted for 11th-year reserve Mikki Moore.”

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  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Nellie gets done for CUI…. “coaching under the influence”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Canuck

    For the life of me I don’t think I’ll ever understand why this guy is getting glued to the bench. This was supposed to be his big break out year, but instead he’s just riding the pine

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  • slamfan4life

    this dudes gonna avg 30 and 12

  • tavoris

    it puzzles me that Don Nelson starts four natural shooting guards, with a too-thin center. There are loads of teams that could use his versatility…apparently every team BUT the Warriors.

  • JoeMaMa

    Please trade him to the raps for amir johnson…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Anthony Morrow is just as good as Randolph, if not better. They both need playing time though.

  • tavoris

    Teddy, they are different types of players. They both should be playing together. I’d say trade Ellis, Maggette, and Jax for whatever big men you can get. The team STILL has plenty of perimeter scoring and guard play without them.

  • Sean B

    this is murdering my fantasy team..is it too soon to drop him? anyone have some fantasy wisdom for me?

  • tavoris

    Sean, Randolph isn’t gonna get meaninguful minutes unless 1)Nelson quits or 2)Biedrins, Jax, and Maggette ALL get hurt before Brendan Wright returns. From a fantasy standpoint, you’ll b safe dropping him.

  • Sean B

    thanks tavoris i was thinking same thing, but deep down i was hoping nelson would sober up and see this guy is good.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    um….where’s the story here?

  • Migs

    @Sean B – Keep him unless there’s a good player sitting on the waivers to be picked up… he’s got too much potential to be wasted like this. Also, doesn’t he have some lingering injuries (back, knee)? Maybe they’re just taking it easy with the guy. If that’s not the case, then WTF is GS doing?

  • tavoris

    Sean, Nelson has been coaching like a drunkard for 3 decades. no point in changing now.

  • Sean B

    Migs i know man ive been clinging to the hope nelson was being cautious but tavoris told me what i was startin to already fear…that nelson would somehow F up his playing time y fantasy value

  • Dutch Rob

    I was hoping the same thing.
    This kid is something special
    For god sake give him some playing time NELLIE!

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    All of you hating on nellie, the guy may be a bad coach which i’m not really sure if that’s the case but he’s got one of the best eyes in finding talent. He’s discovered so many gems throughout his career. Dirk, monta, andris even morrow wouldn’t be the players they are if it weren’t for nellie. Plus he invented smallball and i thank him for that. Stop hating!

  • Sean B

    cb 34 i can hate all i want when he is screwing up my fantasy team and he hasnt won anything

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Dirk is the only big man to truly develop under Don Nelson.
    He once tried to trade Patrick Ewing for scraps.
    There is a patter here.

  • Migs

    @Sean B – I feel you man… I personally have him on my team, and I cringe when I check his line. I saw all the “experts” proclaiming him to be a huge sleeper, told myself not to bother drafting him, and on draft night, guess who I drafted?! However, I’ll stick to my guns and stash him until he becomes useful. If you’re really desperate to get rid of him, I’m sure there’s an owner out there willing to trade for him…

  • tavoris

    cb…u r right. That would make him a good scout, not a good coach.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @allen: you’re forgetting about nash too. Steve nash is who he is because nellie let him loose. He picks on certain players like he did with c-webb and is doing now with randolph but the guy knows his basketball. With ewing, that was the time when he was always injured. You gotta give credit where it’s due.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ tavoris: Why is he such a terrible coach? Tell me man. The guy’s done a lot for the game. There would be no small ball without him. You can dislike the guy but don’t make him out to be as bad as porter or mike curry. That’s just really stupid.

  • tavoris

    cb…he’s a bad coach because he starts Stephen Jackson at power forward, yet refuses to play his most talented bigs (Randolph & Wright). He-for all of his innovation-substitutes like a rec league coach that’s being paid by the players’ parents.

  • tavoris

    Nash is who he is because he didn’t have to play behind TWO hall-of-fame point guards anymore. Nelson’s crowning accomplishment as a coach/GM was finding Dirk.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    There’s a method to his madness. Obviously, randolph is doing something that he doesn’t like. Yeah we all see randolph’s potential but we don’t really know what’s going on. I’m sure randolph will get his pt soon enough. I don’t think he’s that bad of a coach. His roster is really a mess. They are loaded with a lot of tweeners that’s why the lineups are the way they are.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    @ tavoris: I did say he found dirk. I’m also saying he’s partially responsible why nash is who he is. It would be dumb of you to think he had nothing to do with nash’s progress.

  • tavoris

    cb…Nelson has a lot of influence in Golden State. If they drafted or traded for someone, it’s most likely because he wanted them. You didn’t read what I said. He-as then GM of the Mavs-traded for Nash. Of course he contributed to his success. However, Nash was going to be pretty darn good anyway, and the biggest factor in his success was opportunity. That’s why he only took about 15 games as a starter to prove himself worthy.

    The Warriors actually have depth at every position but center. However he still insists on starting FOUR shooting guards.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    tavoris: yeah they’re too loaded at the guard spot. They gotta let one of the guards go and get rid of maggette too. Never liked that guy. He always seems to be out of position and shoots too much. I think andris, randolph and wright will be alright but he’s gotta give them minutes.

  • tavoris

    cb. he’s not going to, as long as he has Ellis, Curry, Azubuike, Jackson, Morrow, and Maggette to all play 30 minutes. Heck, even Biedrins isn’t getting enough minutes or touches.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Mikki Moore is still in the league?!?

  • underdog

    He had his moments in the summer league, but this is something different. I hope he gets his chance to prove himself, but it’s a little bit early to call him a 30 & 10 guy.

  • cramzy

    the bobcats should go grab ai & randolph and play them 40 minutes a game. what they got to lose?

  • onlyclipfanonslam

    Like already said… Nellie and bad coaching decisions is news? Just like: Donald Sterling a racist? is news… Now that the world series is out of the way there should be a lot better stories coming out of the media concerning basketball.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    Randolph was the best player during the Summer League (don’t know if that means anything), but damn man, just play him. Ellis, Jackson, Morrow, Randolph and Biedrins.
    Oh, and trade Azubuike my Nets.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    *to my Nets

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I never understand why certain coaches (*cough Nellie and D’Antoni) refuse to play their young prospects when their teams clearly aren’t going anywhere in the season! What’s the point of letting your current rotation keep playing the same style if it isn’t working? SWITCH IT UP AND PLAY THE FREAKING PROSPECTS. ITS WHY YOU CHOSE TO DRAFT THEM. How hard can it possibly be for these “coaches” to understand this concept?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    CB34
    My comments were about the development of big men. Nellie is not a fan of traditional big men or even big men in general. He doesn’t like running hte offense through them at all. Anthony Randolph can play and both he and Brandan Wright should have gotten more tick in Golden State.

  • http://slamonline.com niQ

    Man, I remember people drafting him WAYY too early in the Fantasy draft and.. now I’m just laughing.lol

  • a_whiteman

    The only 30 and 10 guys I can think of are wilt, kareem, big o, david robinson and shaq. I’m pretty sure that all of those guys>>>>>>>anthony randolph. I don’t think he would put up anything close to that, I say chris bosh numbers at the very best.

  • Chris

    He’s on my fantasy team too. Give the kid some burn Nellie!!!! I got into a big war with a GSW fan for him, don’t make me look dumb.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Nellie doesn’t want to win. Everybody knows that his systems will never ever produce championships but yet, people still give him a pass. You’re not going anywhere in this league playing small ball. You can do it playing outise-in like the Magic, but you still need 6’10+ guys at the 4 and 5. Starting 4 shooting guards and bringing 2 more off the bench? Really? BTW, I would love to see what Morrow could do as a spot up shooter in an organized team. The looks he would get playing for San An, Cleveland, Boston, Orlando. Oh my.

  • tavoris

    yeah Z, he has a quick, quick release.

  • tavoris

    I’d love to see every player currently being throttled by Nellie playing on another team.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Look at Jamal Crawford on a good team. It’s amazing how talent can flourish.

  • doyouwantmore

    Don Nelson needs to retire. Seriously. The guy just strikes me as someone who has been huge to the NBA but has lost some of his spark. Does anyone seriously think he’s going to be around long enough to turn the Warriors into a top team? He’s like 80 years old or something.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ez3vjiwXL1s/SbHpiAZZ9GI/AAAAAAAABi4/9XwCgxxNzu4/s400/don-nelson-.jpg

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Morrow can do more than just shoot 3′s, but man is he good at it.

  • iLL wiLL

    Trade him to the Raps for CB4. Real talk.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    every time i see randolph plays, he’s full of energy and excitement. he always get the crowd excited. i bet scrooge nellie’s must really love a show called “curb your enthusiasm”.

  • mar

    Raptors fa life

  • roybot

    please play him! hes the key breakout player to my fantasy team and me winning 90 big ones. instead, i have been made to look like a fool picking him in the 6th round of a 16 owner league

  • sam chadwick

    The starting 5 should be

    Biendris(whatever his name is)
    Ranpolph
    Morrow
    Ellis
    Curry

    And they should trade Jax to Cleveland

  • tavoris

    sam…that’s an awfully small backcourt. Morrow can get buckets in limited minutes. No need to compromise the D.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    no Sam. Curry and Ellis together is a baaaaad idea. If Jax is traded, Azubuike should be starting. It’s sad to see that this team actually has the material to win some games, or at least play some competitive, exciting ball, but with Nelson it won’t happen anymore.

  • tavoris

    Gerard, the problem with Curry & Ellis is not that they can’t play together. The problem is that Curry has already proved himself a better distributor than Monta. Inasmuch, Monta isn’t gonna dominate the ball as much as he wants.

  • davidR

    doyouwantmore, maybe not a top team, but nellie DID turn the warriors into a successful team, even for 1-2 seasons. at the same time however, he also helped drive the team into the hole it’s in. the gift and the curse. the warrior upper management really need to leave

  • jaxfor3

    Nellie did not try to trade Ewing for scraps. He tried to trade him for Shaq. The knicks were 34-25 under Nellie and Ewing just revolted when he heard about the possible trade and with the other players pushed Nellie out.

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