Friday, December 18th, 2009 at 10:00 am  |  46 responses

Trade Chatter Starting Up in Washington

Things are clearly not working for the Wizards, which has some wondering if and when management will make a move: “The Wizards have their three All-Stars – Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler – back together. They have the big-name coach in Flip Saunders. They have plenty of depth thanks to holdover prospects, the offseason trade that brought in guards Randy Foye and Mike Miller, the signing of veteran center Fabricio Oberto and the in-season pickup of backup point guard Earl Boykins. But something’s not working, and league insiders have begun to surmise that Wizards president Ernie Grunfeld could blow up the roster – or at least move a key piece or two. Butler, the two-time All-Star forward whom the Wizards in the offseason refused to trade to Phoenix with the No. 5 draft pick for Amare Stoudemire, has struggled to find his place in Saunders’ system and has been mentioned in several rumors in the past few weeks. A league source said several teams have interest in Jamison, a two-time All-Star forward who is averaging 22.1 points and 8.6 rebounds.”

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  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Trade Gilbert for B Jennings or T Evans and throw in Earl Boykins with a top 5 pick. To me Arenas defensivenashness and shootingiverness is holding the team back.

  • Babygab

    This would be a bad move. I say they should give this group a little more time. But it’s true that something ain’t working. I was expecting much more from my Wiz

  • http://www.digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    @the seed: WHy would The Kings or The Bucks go for a trade like that? It makes no sense. At all. Trade your young soon to be stars that are cheap for now for a possibly washed up veteran guard who cant play D…crazy.

  • CDub23KB24

    yeah good call seed. u would make a great GM. lol. dork.

  • Jeronimo

    @AlbertBarr and @CDub: I’m sure The Seed was being ironic. There’s no other plausible explanation.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Raptors could sure use Caron Butler…

  • http://www xiaonan

    Change is the only way they can move forward. Their three all-star players are all dwarfs. none of them are superstar, especially after Gilbert had such a big surgery.

  • jumpman3224

    I’ve got this theory that with all of big names in contract years and struggling teams that are supposed to excel…some trade is going to happen and catapult an established playoff team to the Finals (ie Sheed in 04, Pau in 08).

  • jumpman3224

    If Jamison goes to a contender he could be that guy.

  • rav

    nobody in their right mind would trade for arenas

  • heartlandG

    @ Seed… as in Illseed? that ni99a gotta Gucci vocab “defensivenashness” “shootingiverness” lmao

  • tavoris

    Everybody but Butler, Blantche, and Haywood should be shopped

  • a_whiteman

    I’m with NIQ raps should push for butler. But who do the raps give up

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I was being George Lopez funny, didn’t work, but Gilbert needs to be traded.

  • The D Train

    Maybe we could have a Pau’esque trade back to the Lakers for Butler. How about a package of Mbenga and two second round picks for Butler? I still can’t believe the league let that Pau trade go down…what a freakin’ rip…

  • davidR

    i think they’ll be fine. they lost the last 5 by, what, a combined total of 11 points?

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    We could give up DeMar DeRozan and Banks. or Wright. Or just straight up trade Hedo.

  • tmw554

    raps could trade reggie evans, amir johnson and belinelli for butler. the numbers work according to the trade machine at espn but they might have to cut someone

  • Prodigy

    Coach Flip should really think about playing Arenas at the 2 spot. I think he will succeed as a 2, playing more like Wade.
    It’s clear that he can’t run Flip’s system like Billups or even Terrell Brandon could.
    I think Jamison should be shipped somewhere else for a big bulky PF who can score with his back to the basket because no one in that team can post up and score.

  • Jose

    Jaminson for Boozer maybe. Caron to the Raptors sounds. Gilbert…for T-Mac! Gil can be the 2 with brooks at the point in H-Town! then foye starts at PG. Haywood,Jamison,T-mac,Butler,Foye… but ur pretty much trading an injury prone player for the asme thing is the catch…idk

  • ciroqobama

    Gilbert isn’t going anywhere due to his salary

  • DavoX

    Jamison to the Bulls NOW!

  • Kyle

    Jamison should be the only untouchable player. The guy works his butt off night in and night out. He’s quietly putting up a great career, but no one takes notice. Arenas can’t and won’t be traded, he would be an albatross for basically every team with that contract.

    But Jose, Gilbert for T-Mac might work. But then they’d have to trade Jamison and get a point guard and a player like Boozer.

    And true that Jamison isn’t a big bulky power forward, but if he had a true point guard, he could really put up some numbers(if getting starter minutes.) The Raps need to trade Hedo, I know he’s dissected the Cavs in the playoffs, and is clutch while being able to pass like a point guard, but the guy doesn’t fit with their team. Just think how good Portland would be if they had gotten him… small ball, but 4 great passers on the floor at all times with 2 guys being clutch.

  • KB24

    The Lakers should trade Luke Walton, Adam Morrison and Draft Picks and maybe even Vujacic to the Wizards for Caron Butler and change, just to keep him away from the Cavs, because I think getting him will secure Lebron in 2010

  • wilz

    im with niQ. first thought was that colangelo better be offering hedo..

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I can’t get over how on every ‘trade-buzz’ piece that comes along, every year highschool kid makes suggestions that couldn’t possibly work in the real world, let alone NBALive.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    KB24 – no one wants your laker bench trash.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    And how Phoenix wanted to move Amar`e was a hold over from Steve Kerr’s power trip last season.

  • hellyea

    WAIVE GIL!!!!!!! lol

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Gilbert is untradeable, so if the Wiz are trading anyone, they have to trade Jamison or Butler. I’m not sure that trading either one of them would solve anything.
    I mean, Gilbert Arenas was a BEAST. He signed that $111m contract for a reason. But he’s been out for two years. So you have to expect the guy to take some time before he gets back to his former level.
    Plus, the Wizards haven’t had a full roster all season. They didn’t have Jamison at the beginning of the season. So I think that instead of trading Caron Butler for Samaki Walker and a second-round pick or something, it would be wiser to wait until Mike Miller gets back, hope Gil plays his way back to the old Gil, and hope that this team turns a 7-16 record into a respectable record with a few winning streaks. It’s not like they’re in a stacked conference or anything.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    If you go back to that game against Cleveland, you’ll see that the Washington Wizards can play some ball when they have all their players on the floor, even without the old Gilbert Arenas. Now imagine if in a few months the old Gil started to emerge.

  • VA

    if i was the wiz i would trade them for a pick and an expiring contract.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Yeah, that’s a great idea: Try to clear cap space and get picks so you can build for the future. It’s not like you’ve invested anything in the present.

  • J

    I’m secretly wishing and hoping for Jamison or Butler to the Cavaliers. Jamison is the “stretch 4″ we’ve been hoping for but a little old, and i think Butler is entering prime. either one would be a sure great fit. hoping (winks)..

  • ZeroHero

    idiots. The Wizards want to get better. Why would they want average players like Mbenga, Walton etc. And who would want Gil’s contract. Wiz needs an SG and a better center to complete the team.

  • james

    raptors could use caron butler…

  • http://www.twitter.com/PDXGayBball dma

    i wonder how a gilbert arenas/kevin durant pairing would work..

  • Shem

    Amare would look really weird in a wizards jersey, almost as weird as shaq on the thunder hahah

  • http://slamonline.com Big D

    Wow. Wizards bailing already. Gilbert needs to play only the #2. Sometimes it looks like Gilbert against 5 players, and the Wizards players standing around watching. The Wizards need a pure pass-first point guard starting at the #1 and Gilbert staying at the #2.

  • Buschfiya

    trade Jose Calderon and Antoine Wright for Caron Butler.

  • Buschfiya

    if they want they can have marcus banks for free

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Jamison is the consummate pro. He would look good in a Pistons uni.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    TADOne is on the $$$ as usual. Jamison, he who does the least garbage/trash talking is their best player in that he is their most reliable. It would be amazing if Gil was as reliable as Wade is for the heat – but you just don’t get that from him.

  • 33pts

    The nuggets better make a run at this situation. Jamison for JR Smith. Sounds fair. Plus Washington can trade Butler elsewhere for a provien big. Arenas + JR + Big man. Jamison + Melo + Chauncey. Sounds a good deal to me.

  • adam

    3 team trade. Gilbert and mike miller to houston, for Arize and Tmac, Aaron brooks and chase buddinger to new york for nate, darko, and eddy curry


    The Heat Will Sign T-Mac when D-wade Leaves..