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Friday, February 12th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  118 responses

Shaq: Still Not a Dwight Howard Fan

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Last night, Dwight Howard (19/11) won the statistical battle over Shaquille O’Neal, but it was O’Neal who ended up winning the war, as the Cavs convincingly beat Orlando yet again.

Afterward, Shaq let the world in on his feelings toward the Magic center (and the silly nickname, “Superman”. Let’s just say that he wasn’t in a complimentary mood.

The Plain Dealer reports:

“When I was coming up and there was Pat Ewing and Hakeem [Olajuwon], I never doubled anybody,” O’Neal said. “You tell me who the real Superman is. Don’t compare me to nobody. I’d rather not be mentioned. I’m offended. You’re all giving away titles, it’s crazy.”

“I don’t consider it manning up until you play me straight up,” O’Neal said. “Don’t let them double-team me and make it a him vs. me thing. Eighteen years straight — Hakeem, Ewing, Rik Smits, [Tim] Duncan, [David] Robinson, the best of the best, straight up. I never doubled nobody. Nor have I ever asked for double-team. If you want to bang and push, let’s bang and push.”

Of course, this isn’t the first time Shaq has gone after Howard, who he perceives as an undeserving media darling.

Howard has been smart not to get into a verbal sparing match with O’Neal — a fight neither he or anyone else can win — and it’s pretty obvious that Shaq is using all this barking as motivational and psychological ploys for the battles that lay ahead between Cleveland and Orlando.

Here’s to hoping that Dwight doesn’t end up crying over Shaq’s criticism this time around.

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  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    The most surprising thing about all this is that Shaq mentions Rik Smits as one of the best of the best…?

  • http://Www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    He’s saying The Dutchboy in the paint ranks ahead of Dwight.

  • Brickshooting J

    @Jukai: I’m sure Shaq plans to play in The Netherlands when his days in the NBA are over.

  • floe

    first.lebron to shaq dunk was awesome.

  • http://www.bluefont.com Hisham

    shows you just how thin the field of good centers really has been the last 20 years or so. Rik Smits was pretty good though, and this is not my inner dutch guy bias speaking

  • http://www.bluefont.com Hisham

    before I get my brain bashed in: no, he does not belong on a list that includes hakeem, ewing and robinson

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Shaq: Still grasping to that last thread of relevance…

  • http://www.twitter.com/candice2sweet candice

    he doesn’t have to like dwight but he needs to respect him..shaq is getting older& maybe he needs to retire if he feels this way…dwight is going no where& he is not going to waste his time responding to shaq, rather just let his titles& stats do the bragging for him..dont get me wrong shaq has a valid point about other great legends of the game, but thats just it..legends..they are being made everyday&improving each day…nba shouldnt be about competing but respect that each person gives their all to do what they love so much& has had their share of troubles..and they got out…grow up=)

  • Yesse

    LeBron’s lob to Shaq was nice and flushed straight on Howard’s neck. I agree with Shaq. The game is too soft these days. One good hook i saw by Dwight though. Kinda like Shaq back in the day, but he can still do it. Dwight is younger and more athletic than Shaq today so i don’t think Shaq should open his mouth too much, but Dwight will never be what Shaq use to be.

  • mike

    it’s true though – howard doesn’t dominate in the clutch and he hasn’t won anything – don’t know why he’s called superman when the nickname was clearly already taken

  • Randy Brown

    Shaq is such a complete ass. I said this morning that Shaq will do something soon to get him some media attention, seeing as he’s missing the All Star game. He’s an attention whore

  • http://www.twitter.com/mansonovic Mansonovic

    43-11 overall, 13 unbeaten, 7 games clear of anyone else in the East. As starting center for the team with this record, I’d suggest that Shaq is still plenty relevant.

  • jumpman3224

    I don’t think it is 100% up to D Howard who Orlando double teams.

  • dpak

    howard is terribly overrated. look at the shaq’s stats in the first 5 years of his career. blows dwight out of the water.

  • underdog

    Well, it would have been difficult to doubt Hakeem, when he has swept Shaq’s Magic in the ’95 finals.

  • http://Slamadamonth.com Mvp23100

    Shaq goat center most dominate player once mj left superman is not on his level and thats rings aside good w cavs 23mvp

  • http://Slamadamonth.com Mvp23100

    Oh btw rik smits had plenty game that indiana squad gave teams headaches

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com CDef28

    Shaq is right, but he needs to move on. All of the names he mentioned are old; he can hate on Dwight, but as of TODAY, he is the best center in the league. Shaq is an attention grabber. Since his game can no longer make people talk about him, he will let his mouth do so.

  • T-Money

    candice: i disagree on this one. it is kinda insulting to compare a center that has never cracked 20 ppg to shaq. shaq was averaging 30 ppg by his SECOND YEAR. they’re not in the same league. and he did steal the nickname. / myles: with the cavs’ record against the elite teams this year vs last year, i’d say that shaq is still relevant.

  • WhereisBisonDele?

    Hard to double Hakeem with all those shooters he had out there. Right now Howard is getting a little too much hype for really not winning anything yet so Shaq is very much correct in this department. Howards’s young and has lots of time to develop. If he could bring any sort of decent low post moves and maybe a mid-range jumper like Stoudemire he’d be unguardable with his athleticism. People forget that for a guy his size Shaq had some pretty quick moves in the post, especially the Black Tornado.

  • T-Money

    and as a cavs fan, i’m THRILLED that shaq has genuine dislike for Dwight and SVG. we like the big fella when he’s mad.

  • Dagger

    I love Howard’s rebounding and shot blocking, but Shaq is right about one thing: the guy doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the league’s other great offensive centres; he’s barely scored above 20 ppg and this year he’s closer to 17 ppg. Nor is he a great individual defender. Much of Howard’s perceived greatness comes from the death of the centre position and the man’s huge charisma.

  • http://www.myspace.com/freedmusic fredd

    for the ones who think Shaq’s days are over … i think that for the lil time he spends on the floor is pretty efficient …

  • Kas

    well, howard is an undeserving media darling

  • http://www.slamonline.com MooButter

    Shaq has a superman tattoo. He has been called “the man of steel” and “superman” his entire career. So what if dwight put a cape on in a dunk contest. I seem to recall Gerald Green incorporating some baked goods into his dunk but we don’t refer to him as “cupcake”. Remember when the dunk contest was about dunking and not props?

  • Sparker

    dwight can be really good sometimes, but as i’ve written before, he is not (and i don’t think ever will be) the natural scorer that shaq was, or the passer, although he is his equal or (slightly) better when it comes to being an intimidating force on the defensive end. personally, i think dwight’s biggest problem is that he has his head up his ass a lot, either daydreaming (i’m serious), clowning or feeling sorry for himself. when he’s focused, he’s tough and can even be great. but way too often he’s half checked out.

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  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    wait, no Shaq at All Star?? That just hit me. How can that be? Shaq makes All Star fun. this is a tragedy!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Outrageous!

  • http://theurbangriot.com/ NUPE

    Dwight is good, very good, not great and certainly not superman. Shaq earned that nickname, Dwight somehow just fell into it with the medias help. Dwights stats would be better if he was on a team that ran everything for the center versus being such an outside 3-pt type offense. If SVG changed things up and Dwight got more vocal, then he could be a 30ppg player. That’s just not the system that works best for the team. In general I’m not a fan of any double dipping of nicknames, and although Dwight does have a nice game and his stats could improve, he should leave any reference to superman to shaq or the comics.

  • Hangtime Hec

    Dwight Howard WILL NEVER score like Shaq did. Never.

  • cramzy

    Can Shaq at least coach the rookie game or something? No Shaq at allstar is a travesty, a travesty!..but um yeah he’s right about Howard. Why not say it publicly and get in the man’s head? Cleveland needs all the edge they can get for the playoffs.I really do think that Orlando needs to recognize they have the best center in the league and get that man the ball. 93-96 Orlando was built like this current squad-dominant big man, shooters galore. They gotta go inside out instead of chunking 3′s all night, and maybe Dwight could put up those Shaq numbers.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    maybe shaq should have asked for a double on hakeem, single coverage didnt turn out too well for him. you think shaq wishes he was somehow involved in allstar. and dwight has won exactly as much as lebron, one finals loss.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    Tarzan is correct about how Shaq probably should have called for a double on Dream. However, it’s not like Shaq was a slouch in that series–he had what, 29 ppg? Getting worked by Hakeem isn’t so much a dis on Shaq as it is a testament to Hakeem’s place in the Big Man Pantheon. Needless to say, Hakeem would have DESTROYED Howard on both sides of the ball. Brutally.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    And also, as much as Shaq runs his mouth too much, he kinda has a point. In 1994, Howard would be, what, the 5th or 6th best big man in the L? Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, and Shaq certainly rank ahead. I might take the ReignMan too. Hell, 1993 Euroleague Sabonis would wreck Howard. Howard is the best (when Yao is out) at present, but that’s like winning golf tournaments when tiger is in sex-rehab. The competition just isn’t there.

  • http://myspace.com/rsaenz24 RoG23

    Dwight howard is a better athlete than basketball player. Dude has crazy hops, and super strength. he is overated but also very likable. Which is why he gets a lot of credit. He has the potential to be better than shaq, but nowadys its a guards game. So of course shaq scored more, he played in the era of BIGS. That was almost everyones gameplan

  • ENDS

    Funny how most of you Cavs fans state Dwight didn’t Deserve the Super moniker because he hasn’t won anything…KING James. who made him KING? Nicknames are nicknames its not that serious people. Plus Dwight Outscored outrebounded and out played Shaquille. U dont need to win to have a Nickname…idiots. The Thurth, Penny, Flash, Crash, Jsmooth. THere just Nicknames people

  • jumpman3224

    Howard doesn’t quite have the offensive game that Shaq did in his hey. I hated when people said Shaq only scored cause he was big. He had solid moves that capitalized on his size advantage. But, it’s not like Howard is lightyears away. Sure, in year 2 Shaq averaged near 30 ppg. But, he did that with 19.6 shots a game. In Howard’s second year he put up 15.8 ppg on 10.7 shots. He has never been in a situation where his coaches or teammates establish him as a focus. Last night he only had 9 FGA (and 10 FTs). 18 or 19 points on 9 FGA is pretty good. Maybe not being a focus is Howards fault for not being vocal enough or not being the best at passing out of doubles, but that too comes with opportunities.

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  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Shaq has a reason to get on Dwight. Dwight stole his gimmick that he had been running with since his Orlando days. Shaq has had the Superman tattoo on his arm, played the black Superman in Steel (not that I ever saw the movie, but it did happen), and would have the Superman theme song play after a big score. For Dwight Howard to come and claim to be “Superman” (inspired by a Souljah Boy song, nonetheless) is rather ridiculous. Shaquille O’Neal has been using the Superman gimmick for nearly 20 years now. That said, Dwight Howard’s numbers this year are eerily similar to Shaq’s last year production in PHX. Dwight Howard would be a Power Forward 10-15 years ago.

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Myles: We’ll see Shaq hanging onto that “last thread of relevancy” you speak of in the Championship parade after Cleveland wins this year.

  • vtrobot

    I think Shaquille talks a lot of garbage, but I agree with him on this issue. Dwight is overrated and will never have the impact that Shaq had on the league. How can’t Howard have better offensive moves by this point in his career? It’s like Shaq (and others) with free throws. Wouldn’t you just stay in the gym and only work on your main weakness. Smits. Oh man. As a former Knick fan, that name just makes me think of Schrempf, and Reggie and others on those Pacers teams. Hated.

  • http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebasketball/en_US/signature/moves?player=kobe_bryant&move=3 Jackie Moon

    Shaq is a great promoter.

  • JoeMaMa

    I think Shaq’s just mad because Dwight may’ve Shaq/Gilbert’d Shaunie. And he’s mad at SVG because he watched. Is that so far fetched? Remember, this is the peanut gallery!!

  • LA Huey

    I love genuine animosity…And you guys can hate on Shaq about not calling for a double against Hakeem but if you want to be considered one of the greatest, you can’t allow your team to help on your man.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    hahahah I forgot Shaq played Steel… he really took that superman thing pretty far, didn’t he?
    What’s up with people saying Shaq was better in every way? Shaq was a helluva lot better offensively (Shaq was considered a little weak in terms of post moves, yet he probably triples the moves Dwight has) but Dwight is a LOT better defensively than even Shaq’s heyday. I’d choose Shaq in a pickup game, but man, let’s not make up history here

  • T-Money

    ENDS, who talked about rings? Dwight doesn’t deserve the Superman monkier because Shaq at his peak was twice the player he is. There’s no comparison.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    How many centers can you name that are legitimately better than Howard? Ten, fifteen? And Howard still has room for improvement.
    I Mean, Silt, Cap, Dream, Ropes, The Diesel, the HoyaDestroya, Captain, the Admiral, the A-Train… not sure if Walton, Thurmond, or Cowens had nicknames but they were all better.
    But, I mean, that’s really all who I’d consider better than Howard. And Howard can still get better. So, you know, not sure where the hate’s coming from. No one ever said he could run with Shaq from back in the day.

  • JoeMaMa

    Jukai, what about Yao? I mean, Howard wins hands down on defense. But Yao’s offensive game is just flat out better than Dwight’s. Yao might be the best center overall in the past 4, 5 years. Am I crazy for saying that? Let’s give the Dynasty some love.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I agree 100%, Joe. And Yao’s defense is none too shabby himself. Watch him guarding other good centers like Dwight Howard and Shaq, and you’ll see how much his size disrupts players. Every time Yao and Howard match-up, Yao wins by a mile. I know individual match-ups aren’t everything, but Yao–when healthy–is the best center in the NBA, and has been for a while.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Dwight is a great center though, that’s no question. And he really is getting better.

  • roman

    i turned to the game last night and was puzzled to see D.howard on the bench. Foul trouble- really! Orlando almost won that game.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    HoyaDestroya, I like that.

  • jumpman3224

    Also, Steel was not Superman.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Jumpman: Steel was mistakenly thought to be the soul of the (then) dead super-man who had taken over a suit of armor. Nice tidbit of knowledge for you.
    JoeMaMa & Teddy: I don’t know… statistically he is not superior than Dwight Howard, but I know for a fact that Yao’s statistics are a bit diluted because of his injuries and playing during them… I don’t think I could put Yao over Howard though, dude had some stamina issues, wasn’t exactly a willing passer, and I don’t think Yao’s offensive superiority is that much greater than Howard’s defensive superiority. I don’t know, toughie.

  • http://www.teflinprague.com SAB

    that picture in the news and rumors box on the right is strange. it looks Shaq’s breast-feeding little Dwighty…

  • erich

    Superman TM by Shaq????
    Get over it , shaq! You are behaving like a little child that is playing with his friends in the yard and said the name of the character he usually plays to late .

  • CSP8

    I dont think it was a jab a Dwight more that it was at SVG for saying that O’Neal flopped last year… What he’s sayin is if this guy is the real “Superman” lets go one on one and let him prove it.

  • LA Huey

    Actually, I remember Orlando sending a double at Dream a few times in those ’95 Finals. It was selective though…However, we all know (including Shaq), that his (almost) sole purpose is to cancel out Dwight. Shaq’s prolly trying bait Dwight to stray from SVG’s plan.

  • D12FSU

    Shaqs first 5 years were better than dwights because shaq went to college for 3 years..that experience helps..if dwight went to college for the same amount of time..this would be his 3rd season, and we would all be in shock at his progress…its still february and i saw glimpses that this magic team can beat the cavs in 7

  • jumpman3224

    jukai: props on the comic book/nba dual knowledge

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    jumpman3224: I was actually a marvel comic buff when I was a kid. That whole ‘death of superman’ saga was probably the only DC comic I ever read in my life.
    Glad it came in handy.

  • e

    as far as im concerned dwight howard sucks offensively and has 0 quality big man moves he better spend his whole summer with every credible big man alive showing him how to operate in the paint take away his ability to dunk and what you have is micheal olawakandi

  • T-Money

    D12FSU: that would make sense if dwight was scoring 30 a game right now. which is what shaq was doing in his sleep by his 2nd year. on offense, they’re not in the same league. / jukai: yao is the best center in the league when healthy. dwight always play poorly against yao too.

  • rainman10

    maybe he should have asked for a double team when Hakeem kicked his ass.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Marvel > Dc. By a mile. Shaq is getting annoying. Why do you feel the need to attack an up and coming star? That would be like Nash calling out Chris Paul. You would never hear that from him. Stay classy Shaq.

  • jumpman3224

    cosign Jukai and Bryan on the marvel love.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    DC is just as good as Marvel and vice versa. Watchmen is the greatest graphic novel ever written and drawn. Several Batman graphic novels were insanely good. Come on now.
    Marvel is great as well, with X-Men, Spider-man, and the Punisher, plus many more.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’ve probably read more DC than Marvel, though.

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    LOL – I like how this is turning into a comic book discussion thread.

  • http://none The Philosopher

    I can definetly be wrong, but Howard has already peaked, and he is due to break down at some point. As for Shaq, everyone knows what time it is with Shaq. He is what he is. Besides, to me Shaq always had an air of insecurity about him anyway. It always had to be about him and he didn’t ever let it come naturally.

  • rainman10

    How can you say that a big man who came out of high school has peaked at the age of 24? You haven’t been watching if you think Howard has peaked. He is using the left hand more, and is even facing up and shooting some jumpers a couple times a game. That is only going to improve.

  • rainman10

    Dwight plays poorly against Yao. Ok. That matters. I see Yao has led his team to the finals, wait no. Maybe this year, oh wait he is injured.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    2 things dc did right, the watchmen and kingdom come. But if you want to talk graphic novels. The man without fear is right up there.

  • Retrobat

    I have to co-sign w/Bryan. Marvel is greater than DC. With the exception of the Watchmen and Dark Knight returns (and Killing Joke), DC leaves much be be desired. Marvel has always been the “everyman” hero and I think that’s why Marvel stories seem to be stronger (typically) than DC’s.

  • LA Huey

    Whoa, Philosopher. You’re jumping the gun a bit by saying he’s peaked. Dude, is still young and has been improving year-to-year. The problem I have with Dwight as a basketball fan is that his progress has come at a snail’s pace.

  • Tommy Patron

    @ Those who have indicated in their comments that Howard is a good defensive player (let alone better than Shaq), I have a question. Why?

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    shaq was once a giant dominant guy in a basketball court, hes entertaining and funny BUT HES BITTER FAT JACKA$$ TODAY. he never left a team on good terms also.

  • flyinrhyno

    Shaq is a top 3 center of all time. Dwight might get there, but i doubt it. Shaq led the league in scoring you can’t do that by being a glorified ball boy. Dwights teams jack up shots and he gets rebounds and put backs, offensively Rik Smits is head and shoulders above Dwight, go watch some classic NBA. The whole nickname thing is probably annoying Shaq, someone else got the same nickname but without the same work you put in you’d be pissed too. Dwight is not half the player Shaq was back then, and as of right now I think Shaq is almost as good as him production wise. Oh and Dwight is a cornball…..his pregame schtick he doesnt even do a dream shake in game, I’m not sure he can.

  • riggs

    meanwhile christopher reeves is rolling in his grave.

  • LCD screen cleaner

    Dwight Howard’s body is awesome, but it’s more form than function at the moment. He’s a world class athlete, but i haven’t seen anything special from him other than that. He’s had the same game since his sophomore year, although he does make decisions helluva lot quicker now, comes with experience maybe. Sad. I wish he was better offensively, since with the money he’s gonna be making as a percentage of the salary cap in the next few years, he HAS to if Orlando is going to have a chance to win it all. They just might not be able to afford to a sign another worthy scorer. Vince has been iffy so far.

  • Niio

    I would love Howard to have played against ‘ZO in his hey day. They both were athletic and play D, but Zo would kill him with the outside jumper!

  • http://PROTEGEMVP.COM DALLAS STOKES

    Dwight is a good player but he will honestly never have a career even close to Shaq period. Closer to Barkley which is still not bad but he will never go down in history with the accolades of a Shaq “the man has rings”, unless he to leaves Orlando. Great players are great because they are great, not because people dont realize Shaq is telling the truth.

  • Crusher

    Howard is the most dominant center in the league right now so I won’t take that away from him. Still, the league doesn’t have the dominant centers it used to. It is true, the day of Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, etc. may be over, or maybe we’re just in a down cycle.

    It does seem petty of Shaq to make these comments though. Shaq will go down in history as one of the best players at his position. His stats are prolific. It makes him look a little classless to be picking on Dwight.

    Besides, a guy who gives himself a new nickname every second week shouldn’t whine when someone steals one of his old ones.

  • Alvin

    I think modern day centers are somewhat more fearful of getting dunked on than those who played back in the day. For instance guys like Ewing, Mutombo and Zo didnt give a damn who was comin through the lane, they let it be known that the paint was theirs and if you wanted a dunk you were gonna have to go through them and earn it, I respect Patrick Ewing the most for having the bravado and balls to repeatedly challenge MJ and Scottie at the rim no matter how many times he got dunked on by those two. He had no fear of anyone comin through the paint. Its unfortunate you cannot say the same about some of todays big guys. The centers today are a lot softer than the guys I mentioned above…..

  • http://PROTEGEMVP.COM DALLAS STOKES

    Real talk Alvin!!! These new center cats are lookin more GQ than Sports Illustrated. Softer than a Nike air bag.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch/basket Darksaber

    Wow, 1st the Fantastic 4 reference on Post Up now some John Henry Irons, /Marvel vs. DC talk? My kinda people.

  • http://PROTEGEMVP.COM DALLAS STOKES

    Shaq played John Henry by the way Darksaber…

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    @DALLAS S: yeah, goes without saying. Dwight needs a new moniker.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Tommy: I mean, he leads the league in blocks every year, he leads the league in defensive rebounds every year, he is a great man-on-man defender (I’m impressed with his ability to come out and guard centers who play away from the basket. Guys like Duncan, Chamberlain, Ewing, they all had problems doing that).
    I mean, the three-second rule and restricted zone killed a lot that a center can do in terms of defense, but Howard still does it. That’s crazy. Give the man props.

  • http://PROTEGEMVP.COM DALLAS STOKES

    He get props Jukai like a cape and Nate Robinson!!!

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    shaq in his prime had better O. D12 better D. fu(k that egomaniac fat bastard!

  • BostonBaller

    Smits was real good don’t get it twisted. Any of you ever heard of Moses Malone, D Dawkins, Robert ParishBob Lanier etc etc? Just to name a few Centers of the past who would dominate in this era of Centers. Think about a guy like Mark Eaton who was so big that only a Shaq or Yao could actually score on him with any consistency from todays Centers. Then again we could do that with every position of today: What would todays guards stats look like if facing defensive minded guards like Moncrief, Cheeks, DJ etc etc. How about todays forwards having enough energy to score 30 while chasing and guarding the likes of Bird, Wilkins, Marquis Johnson, Bernard King, K Malone, Pippen etc etc etc? I’m headed to the Barbershop. LOL. What was the original topic? Shaq keeps Superman, Howard picks a different name.

  • ripcabb

    Shaq should just get out of the league and go play baseball or something, he’s becoming an asshole. He’s too old and fat to play anymore.

  • rob

    well,first of all O’neal didn’t win the war. Lebron won it for him. Second, if Shaq got double teamed, it certainly wasn’t DH decision, that’s a coaching decision. Shaq’s ego has always been out of control. He was a good player but right now he’s finished. The older he gets, the bitter he gets.
    Shaq isn’t relevant anymore. And about Howard, well, he’s just too nice, that’s his real problem. Nice to the opposing players, nice to his coach, nice to his teammates. He needs to accept his role and become a man and take control. He’s still a nice big boy. Superboy nickname suits him better.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    I didnt know there was beef.. In fact, in last years asg when Shaq threw the ball between Dwights legs and caught it on the other side for an easy dunk, I was convinced that Shaq maybe gave him a grand to play eased up defense and it was a planned thing..

  • http://Twitter.com/pdxgaybball Dma

    You all need to remember this is a different NBA today than when shaq started. There was no such thing as zone defense, defensive 3 seconds in the key, or the Charles Barkley rule and back down a defender for 15 seconds of you liked. Dwight may not be a top 5 center in that era, but flip it around and sone of those guts wouldn’t ne top 5 with today’s rules either.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    rainman10: Right, because your logic makes no sense whatsoever. It DOES matter that Dwight plays poorly against Yao, you know why? Because he isn’t the best center in the NBA. And saying Dwight “led” his team to the finals is like saying Ben Wallace “led” his team to the finals. They had great TEAMS. How many clutch shots did Dwight Howard make down the stretch, how many times did Van Gundy allow Howard to get the ball and risk free throws? Get out of here with that.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Yao > Dwight.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Dma are you freaking kidding me? Zone defense and defensive 3 seconds would mean nothing to Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, and Dream Olajuwon if there were only 2 real centers left in the NBA. Who would stop them, Andersen Varejao? LOL.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Wait, defensive 3 seconds would make it EASIER for centers to score. What are you talking about Dma?

  • Alvin

    im glad someone agrees lol

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I agree 100%, Alvin.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, like said before, Rik Smits needs to be mentioned as one of the best centers in the game. At least top 25. He’s one of the most underrated players of the 90′s.

  • therighttoremainsalient

    dma – hakeem is the all time leader of blocked shots, he would be the best centre in the league by a country mile if he was 30 today. When Dikembe was playing 3 years ago and he was (39???) he was the 4th best centre in the league immediately when Yao got injured.

  • Shem

    im sure noones questioning who was a better player throughout their first 5 years, but some of you are right.. its not up to dwight whether orlando double teams or not. SHAQ really cant talk, dwight is a better player right now and if it was rasho nesterovic guarding him and they decided to double this wouldnt be here. By the way i dont think shaq can score on a consistent basis against dwight but i do love the big fella

  • Alvin

    I think a lot of centers, and power forwards today, truly lack that middle linebacker type toughness and grit that we love about true big men. There is no big in today’s game, with the exception of Duncan and Shaq, that i can say would toughen up against guys such as Ewing or Zo.

  • http://none The Philosopher

    Howard’s been in the League for a while now. One might think that by now he would be a legit 20 – 25ppg. He may get slightly better in the years to come. But offensively, he still relies on his atheletic acumen. And I’m not entirely convinced he has the “killer instinct”. Plus, his team isn’t iclined to throw him the ball like that. Olajuwon at 24 was consistently dominant against the so called best. And Olajuwon peaked late. And truth be told, Howard is playing against lower level centers as compared to the NBA’s golden age of centers. (Except for Yao). And Duncan if he’s considered a center.

  • clos1881

    Shaq was more of a juggernaut then a superman. To me Dwights physical attributes are closer to supermans, and Shaq also had the luxury of playing with another top 10 player his entire career (penny kobe wade nash lebron).

  • OneStep

    I hate to admit it but the big man is right. Dwight just isn’t there yet. I’ve said it before but he needs to find a couple of go to moves because right now he’s barely got one. He’s like an amped up Ben Wallace at this point in his career and that’s simply not good enough to be considered super-anything.

  • WOODY

    Shaq doesn’t have to score against Howard. Others do that. He has to keep Howard from scoring and get him in foul trouble. Check and check. Shaq is also in Howard’s head which works well for the Cavs.

  • Dunkathon jr

    The big Diesel is almost out of gas, so he’s taking shots at anyone and everyone. If he doesn’t like that people call Howard “Superman” then how about this, “The Hybrid”. Cleaner and more efficient than your old diesel engine and runs at half the cost. If fatty Shaq shaq wants to talk crap then he should expect to hear it. He acts like it wasn’t Kobe putting the ball in his hands all those years. Lakers to take it all, Bron-Bron and the Big Suck Diesel can enjoy the finals from wherever it is that they hold their daily “we rule” fest. Shame it won’t mean anything.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    For the record, the Rockets made Horace Grant guard The Dream in the Finals to protect Shaq from fouls. Just so folks know. And when Shaq could have guarded players like Chris Webber, Duncan and Wallace, he deferred to other players to save fouls.
    So, what did we learn?
    Shaq is a liar.

  • http://slamonline.com dmonz

    Dwight is starting to develop a jumpshot .. something Shaq never had and WIll never have

  • 76ersboy

    dwight gets double teamed everytime he steps on the court. THe only reason people are on shaqs side is cause he’s old. I mean really who has more superman qualities. shaq is puttin on some pounds dwight is a machine! its much easier for shaq to score cause he doubles everyones weight. Plus shaqs making a big deal out of it, dwight just chills

  • 76ersboy

    T-MONEY: the games changed. How is dwight gonna average 20 a game getting doubled everyplay? i mean look at wilt. His averages were godly. But i bet you put him and lebron on the same court both at their primes. lebron would make him look like a high school center.

  • 76ersboy

    AND shaq was always with another star. Dwight is the star of orlando. I bet if dwight played wit kobe they’d look better than shaq and kobe

  • Jalepino Sausage

    Obviously none of you bi*ches know what it’s like playing against a versatile 7.4′ 300+ cat. ShAQ DOES. + he is right, D12 nottin but a pu$$y. STEP UP KID !! Dwight can’t touch Superman. it had to be said

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