Wednesday, April 14th, 2010 at 10:30 am  |  32 responses

Pacers to Consider Moving from Indiana?

Team management says they need the city to help with the cost of running their arena, and if they don’t get their way, moving to a new city is not out of the question. From the Indy Star: “The Indiana Pacers would consider all options — including moving the NBA franchise to a new city — if the city doesn’t agree to cover the cost to run Conseco Fieldhouse. Since the 18,345-seat venue opened 11 years ago, the Pacers’ lease with the city has required the organization to pay for the building’s general operating costs, estimated at $15 million per year. But since March 2009, owner Herb Simon and the Pacers’ top brass have insisted the economics of operating a small-market NBA franchise make it fiscally impossible to also pay to keep the arena running … The Pacers, members of the CIB and Mayor Greg Ballard’s administration have held behind-closed-doors negotiations on that lease, which have centered on the team’s push to have the CIB pick up the $15 million operating tab. Those negotiations now, however, have reached a critical stage. On Tuesday, Pacers Sports & Entertainment President Jim Morris said if a deal isn’t inked by June 30, Simon would have to start searching for other solutions, and nothing would be off the table. ‘We’ve been having conversations with the Ballard administration for two years,’ Morris said, ‘and we’re now at the point where we need to wrap this up in the next 30, 40 days.’ If that doesn’t happen, he said, ‘Herb would have to look at all of his options.’ Including moving the team? ‘Herb would look at all of his options,’ Morris repeated.”

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  • ericmontross

    Seattle SuperPacers?

  • Incubo

    Go to a state that don’t have a team. Alabama or Mississippi, Iowa, or somewhere…lol

  • Raptors fan

    So let me get this straight the same team that throws money away at Dunleavy Jr. and Troy Murphy etc. now wants a government in debt to bail them out…..How about this, you manage your team right so the building actually sells out once in a while….I’m sure you would have no problem covering the 15 mil. that way…What next Sterling going to ask for a bailout too? Fans pay for a good product try that on for size, car dealerships don’t get a break on property taxes when their cars are inferior last time I checked

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    We don’t need another Sonics disaster.

  • BackInBlack

    no big deal

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    MOVE TO NEWARK! Oh wait…

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    Really hope Indy fans tell that broken franchise to fck off. And look forward to Zirin’s take on another franchise trying to hold the public hostage.

  • IndyB

    It isn’t going to be broken forever, Ryan. The state of Indiana has always had a passion for good team basketball. Once that is happening at Conseco Fieldhouse people will come back.

  • IndyB

    It isn’t going to be broken forever, Ryan. The state of Indiana has always had a passion for good team basketball. Once that is happening at Conseco Fieldhouse people will come back.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    I don’t doubt that, IndyB. My issue is more with how far that $15 mil in taxpayers dollars could go to say, improve public schools or feed undernourished kids. Sh*t like that.

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  • LA Huey

    co-sign, Ryan. I hated losing the Sonics but not at the cost of sacrificing dollars for what’s important.

  • nastierthanu

    @ryan jones people would rather take that 15mil and flush it before the money is spent on the needy and uneducated.

  • docmoon

    If the Pacers move to another city I hope its louisville, actually I hope its the first nba franchise to relocate to mexixo. Its worked wonders for manufacturing jobs in Indiaana

  • Sparty’s Law

    Are there really more cities out there that could support an NBA franchise? I mean really, where would they move them to?

  • k

    As a Pacers fan who lives outside of Indianapolis, it wouldn’t bother me at all. That city (or the state, if you like) had its chance. They had a contender, and after an extremely unfortunate blunder by one of its players, got all holier-than-thou and DEMANDED that anyone who wasn’t a boy scout or a choirboy be cast off. Bird and Walsh caved, took what they could get for most of their good players right away, which wasn’t much, and Bird has now refused to acknowledge that any of that was a mistake, which is why they’ve “stayed the course” with this trio of overpaid losers (Murphy, Dunleavy, Ford), NOW claiming that the plan the whole time was somehow to take on these contracts and let them expire FOUR YEARS LATER and THEN start building a team again, instead of the truth which is that they actually believed they could compete by starting these deadbeats. I for one would be thrilled to see the team I root for playing in a city where the fanbase actually cares more about basketball than their own inflated sense of righteousness and allegiance to one egomaniac GM who got and still has the job exclusively because he was a great PLAYER, for ANOTHER TEAM, TWENTY YEARS AGO.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Nice comment, k. Hard to argue with it.

  • Logues

    hawaii needs a team

  • doyouwantmore

    Vancouver Pacers!

  • Smoove

    Most likely las Vegas

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    Kentucky Colonels?

  • deafshooter

    send em up north!

  • kennyrocks

    nba…welcome back to vancouver. the “vancouver lakers but better”

  • WolfNast

    If they move they gotta move out west. There are so many Western Conference teams that should be out East like the Memphis Grizzlies. So if the pacers move they need to go to either: Seattle, Las Vegas or even Kansas City. That way the Grizzlies can be in the East and maybe provide some much needed competition for that conference.

    Thats just my 2 cents.

  • WolfNast

    If they move to Seattle or Las Vegas, and Memphis is put in the Eastern Conference that will let OKC slide down to its rightful Division the Southwest Division and the T’wolves can move to the Northwest Division. Works out perfectly.

  • Groves@UWA

    Las Vegas, Seattle, Vancouver, Tampa Bay, Columbus, Newmark, Pittsburgh, St Louis, Kansas City, Louisville….. Sound like decent destinations? How about Hawaii Islanders?

  • heartlandG

    Nebraska! yeah…Nebraska!

  • Kent Kanada

    But Indiana and Larry go so good together. Both real white. It would be totally weird if Indiana moved anywhere that wasn’t a white suburbia dominant state. With their current Dunleavy and Troy Murphy like roster, and their past Detlef and Smits era…even Reggie. Alls I see is corn and cracka’s

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i’m totally with Farmer Jones. the kind of money America puts into entertainment fields is mind boggling. did you know that Avatar cost about $500 million to make and market? what if America as a whole have a sense enough to invest that money into cancer research? oh okay avatar was super entertaining so it’s worth spending that $500 mil. what about the $60 mil spent on the alvin/chipmunk movie?
    *ends social commentary*
    also big ups to k. that pacers analysis was so spot on, no other sports writer would dare to comment the same way.

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  • bailey

    Can you really believe this? The worst republican corporate bailout yet!

    Closing Indiana libraries and schools while handing over tax dollars to the wealthiest family in the state- in the name of entertainment?

    I am a republican, the old non big spending type, not the ones of the last decade, but the mayors corporate bailout hypocrisy has completely clouded any reasonable judgment he was supposed to have.

    I found a great symbolic Pacers Bailout sticker for my car: http://www.StickEmUpIndy.com