Sunday, May 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am  |  24 responses

Evan Turner May Not Be The Second Pick

Keith Pompey checks in from Chicago, and he says that Evan Turner is not the definite selection with the No. 2 pick and that the Sixers may move the pick: “Sixers president and general manager Ed Stefanski said using the second overall pick on Ohio State swingman Evan Turner in next month’s NBA draft is not a lock. If Kentucky point guard John Wall and Turner are off the board, the New Jersey Nets are expected to take Favors at No. 3. ‘We will review the whole draft like we’ve done all year long,’ Stefanski said. ‘We will watch film on a whole lot of people and we will come down with a conclusion.’

“One trade rumor that briefly circulated here involved the Sixers and the Minnesota Timberwolves. The Timberwolves want Turner and would give the Sixers their No. 4 and No. 16 picks in exchange for the second pick.

“‘I won’t comment on our trade talks or to the teams that we are talking to or to do our business in the newspaper,’ Stefanski said of the [trade] rumor. ‘What I will tell the fans is that we will listen to anything. But obviously, that will have to be a strong deal to give up the second pick in the draft.’”

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  • WB30

    just pick Turner.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    FU*K that. Pick Turner, and you have your back-court set for the next decade in Jrue and Evan.

  • http://twincityslim@yahoo.com Jahi

    Pick Evan Turner. Jrue Holiday was so happy the Sixers didn’t get the number one pick, I’m sure he will be ready to roll next season under Doug Collins, and Holiday, Turner, Igudalo could be a great trio.

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    it would be weird to me if they don’t go for Turner. They absolutely need this guy.

  • Fat Lever

    If the Sixers trade down or don’t draft Turner, I’m done with this franchise. I can’t believe Stefanski is even considering this. He is over thinking this. Seriously, if they trade the pick, they might as well play the games at 52nd and Parkside instead of the Wachovia Center, because they’ll have about 20 fans watching them.

  • http://www.twitter.com/notebooknick NotebookNick

    Fat’s totally right. Iggy’s jumpshot is suspect, and Turner’s a guy they need. This shouldn’t be a concern.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Just to play devil’s advocate, who’s to say the 4th pick, or even the 16th pick for that matter, won’t turn out to be better than Turner? I agree with all you guys but let’s be real, the NBA Draft is not an exact science. Unless you’re gonna be able to draft a Tim Duncan or a LeBron James at #2, someone you KNOW is gonna be a sure thing, I think it’s worth looking at different scenarios. In the end, I think they do take Turner though. Unless Washington does. In which case, John Wall is a hell of a consolation prize.

  • Mike

    It makes sense.

    1. Evan Turner is at his best when he drives to the bucket, he’s not a great shooter and Philly already has two players like that in Thad and Iggy.

    2. What happens to Thad if you draft Turner, don’t forget Thad is younger than Evan and improved a lot from his rookie year to his second year. I know they don’t play the same position but the starting lineup will have Iggy, Thad, and Elton I don’t see Turner fitting in. This season wasn’t the kind of progression for Thad that Philly wanted but I think the new system and injuries are the reason why.

    3. The Sixers need a reliable low post scorer. Elton was supposed to be that but with his recent injureis it doesn’t look like he is that 20-10 guy anymore. The 2010 season is Dalembert’s last year and probably Jason Smith’s last year also. That leaves only Brand and Speights down low. Speights has developed nicely over his first two years although injuries early in the year kind of slowed his progression.

    4. If they go through with this 2nd pick for 4th and 16th I say pick Cousins at 4. I know guys have said he has a maturity problem but he’s only 19 years old. I think Doug Collins would be the perfect guy to help DeMarcus. What Cousins did at UK was unreal, he averaged 15-10 in 23 minutes. There may be a risk but the whole draft is a risk, nobody knows for sure what’s going to happen. At the draft combine Andy Katz reported that the GM’s said Cousins would be neck and neck with Wall for the #1 pick if he was more mature.

    Either way, if it’s Turner/Cousins/Monroe or whoever Philly is going to get a really talented player who will have time to develop.

  • http://www.solecollector.com NDP

    Any chance the Spurs would trade Tony Parker for a chance to grab Favors, who they’re reportedly VERY high on? If I’m the Sixers, I’m not sold at all on Jrue.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    It really doesnt make sense for them to draft Turner. They have Iggy, Thad Young, Willie Green, Iverson (maybe), Louis Williams, and some other people who i am probably forgetting. The last thing they need is another guard/undersized forward who wants to take a lot of shots.

  • k

    I think if you’re Stefanski and you take Turner, and it doesn’t work out, no one holds it against you, but if you trade the pick, and don’t get a superstar and Turner goes on to do great things some place else, that’s it for you. Having said that, 4 and 16 is a pretty enticing offer. This isn’t the deepest draft, but you could basically be assured of getting either Cousins or Favors (unless they’re both gone in which case you get Turner and have lost nothing and gained another first-round pick), and roll the dice on a swingman like James Anderson at 16. You address two positions instead of one, and frankly they’re not TERRIBLE at the 2 even now, so the risk is relatively low. But it’s still A risk, so unless you want this draft making or breaking your tenure as GM, you still take the sure thing.

  • Shem

    Although Turner would be a great addition to Phili (who really isn’t working with Willie Green) but they have a lot of holes in their team. Trade it to Minni for the 4th and 16th. Many successful teams in any sport realize more picks are better then higher picks.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    BET – Turner is a 6’7 combo guard. Who can play the 3. He rebounds like a 4, and can run a team. At 6’7 he’s hardly undersized. He’s taller than Iguodals (6’6).
    Willie Green sucks, Thad Young is a 4, who doesn’t really need plays run for him.
    When Iggy or Turner is out, the other will slide to the 2, and Thad comes to the 3.
    Or you can go ‘everyone is out of position’ with Turner, Lou, Igoudala, Thad, Brand (at the 5).
    Or the opposite with Lou, Iverson, Turner, Iggy, Dalembert.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    I think it’s over for AI I don’t think he will return. I really hope it isn’t the end and he decides to return. But if the Sixers draft Turner it’ll be certain that Allen Iverson played his last game in the NBA on February 20,2010 against the Bulls and scored 13 points and had 3 assists in 29 minutes and shot just 5 for 13. The Bulls won 122-90. What a stupid way to go out for AI. I would trade the picks for a good player and bring back AI at the 2 spot with a Collins having a open offense which this Sixers squad would thrive in.

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  • maclovenotwar

    the Villain!

  • http://www.hypebball.com Sam Raphael Chadwick

    I think it actually sounds pretty good, like k posted earlier if u trade down to the 4th pick you can probably pick up either Cousins or Favors, if Turner falls to 4th and cousins and favors are picked you can take him and still have the number 16 pick to grab someone else. also availible at 4 would be Greg Monroe, Hassan Whiteside, Wesley Johnson and other great pick ups. so I think its a good trade if they are getting 4 and 16 in return especially for the current needs of phili.

  • mytiman

    Sixers should only be considering trade talks that involve Elton Brand’s massive contract! Move that f*cking guy out of Philly. Brought nothing but disgrace to the team and organization.

  • Hussman25

    I see it like this… It;s either Turner @ #2 or (if the Wolves are serious) Wes Johnson @ #4 and either Whiteside, Lawal or Orton @ #16… Id still go with Turner, but the Sixers could get 2 need areas??? This is why Im not a GM….

  • Fat Lever

    Anyone who thinks Turner is falling past the first two picks is out of their mind. Stefanski is panicking here. And AI is definitely not coming back next year. That is a given. Also, Thad is not a 4, he is a 3, playing the 4(off the bench) because Iguodala is playing the 3 and Brand’s contract requires some sort of return on investment, meaning he starts at 4. This is the most important draft for this franchise since AI. It cannot be f’d up.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/ReignMD Reign

    If I was a GM, I’d pick Turner first. Overall, he’s a better guard than Wall and a better court leader

  • Fat Lever

    And what risk is there in taking Turner at #2 for Stefanski? Practically none, he is the consensus #2 pick in this draft so there is no reach. Even if Turner turns out to be a bust, Stefanksi can say he went off of stats, projections, and a ton of research. However, if Stefanski trades down, takes Cousins or Favors, and Turner turns out to be a great player, like he is projected, and DC has a little too much DC(Derrick Coleman) in him, then Stefanski will have gone down as one of the worst GM’s in franchise history. The decision is a simple one, to me at least. Take Turner.

  • http://sevendeu2u.wordpress.com/ Seven Duece

    Do the 76ers really need another swingman or would they be better served with a true pg that can set the table for all those athletic players?

  • Bubby

    It cracks me up when I see people that don’t even keep track of the Sixers making ridiculous comments about what the team needs are. Some of these folks probably never even watched a Sixers game and for that matter can’t even abbreviate Philly (not Philli)correctly. My first indication of some people having no clue is them comparing Iguodala to Turner. First off Turner is not a swing man, he is a natural 2 guard who was moved to PG out of need by Ohio State’s Coach Matta. He has the height to play 3 but that’s pretty much where it ends for that position. While he does need to develop a more consistent 3 it is not critical to be successful in the position (can anyone say Rip Hamilton). Rip was has a mediocore 3 at best and was a top tier SG in the league for years beacuase of his great mid range game which Turner excels at. In addition to a very good to great mid range game Turner can handle the ball with the best of them (hints him being able to move to PG). But to me the one thing that really entices me to go with Turner is his work ethic and basketball IQ. What this translates into is a person who is willing to learn and become the player that a lot of post are saying he can’t be. Igoudala has reached his ceiling. He has no long range or mid range game, he can’t dribble and most importantly or unfortunately he thinks he is more of a talent than he really is (a lot of that is the Sixers fault). Also Igoudala is not really a swing man either considering he does nothing well enough to play anything else besides the 3. This is evident by last years disaster. I do think Cousins and Favrors will good players but anyone who has followed the Sixers knows there greatest need atthis time is SG. So why not go with that (especially considering he won every major college B-ball award) and stop overthinking the whole process. Turner at #2 nuff said!!!