Sunday, June 20th, 2010 at 11:27 am  |  64 responses

Kobe Bryant: Just Getting Started?

by Tzvi Twersky

Ever since Thursday night, pundits (and sons) have been weighing in on Kobe Bryant’s legacy. Namely: Is Bryant anywhere near as good as Jordan? Some say yes, the overwhelmingly majority say no.

As for me, I’ll evaluate Kobe’s GOAT claim once he hangs up his Nikes. What I can tell you know, though, is this: Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of his generation, and, based on his postseason play and his strong supporting cast, he’s not done accumulating stats or Title just yet (unless his injuries are worse than we know).

As Marc Heisler of the L.A. Times writes:

Bryant’s fifth title may not be his last, but it’s one more than Shaquille O’Neal or Tim Duncan has won.

Shaq’s 38. Timmy’s 34. Kobe is the one who’s soon to be 32, on a team poised to challenge for more titles, assuming they recover from this one.

Andrew Bynum is already set for knee surgery. We don’t even know how many operations Kobe will need for his knee, finger and other injured body parts we didn’t know about.

Still, with successful procedures and the wisdom not to try to play seven months with a broken finger again, Bryant has years to stack ever greater accomplishments atop each other.

If you haven’t heard, he and his five titles are now in the “conversation” with Michael Jordan, just one ahead of him at six.


Here’s what you can say: Whatever state Kobe’s public relations are in, this isn’t an act a basketball fan would want to miss.

If you combined MJ with Batman you’d have Kobe.

Jordan was like Rembrandt to Bryant’s Picasso and wouldn’t have even thought of taking one of those fadeway-jackknifing-legs-for-leverage-hand-in-his-face-no-one-can-make-that-I-don’t-believe-it shots Kobe knocks down regularly.

Of course, that’s why Michael shot 49.7% for his career and Kobe’s at 45.5%.

Before Bryant, I can’t remember hearing coaches telling players not to get dismayed when he starts making those incredible shots, one after another, as if in some Layup Line of the Gods.

“I keep telling my guys not to get discouraged, but after a while you have to get discouraged,” the Suns’ Alvin Gentry said during the Western Conference finals.

“I tell you, you have to laugh, because if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry.”

Said Boston’s Doc Rivers in the Finals: “You don’t worry about it. I mean, hell, he’s Kobe Bryant.”

This ride lasts only so long.

Let’s hope we won’t miss Kobe and he won’t miss us.


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  • monkeyball

    While I think Jordan was better than Kobe, there are some things that could be mentioned.
    First, as Bill Simmons has pointed out, Jordan was better, but Kobe will retire having had a better overall career. He’ll almost definitely be higher on the all-time scoring list and will probably win more titles. Who knows what the record books would look like had MJ played all of 93-94 and 94-95?
    Second, while it’s true that Jordan won 6 Finals MVP, people of a certain age recall that Scottie Pippen arguably deserved the MVP in the 97 and/or 98 Finals.
    Finally, it’s completely unfair to penalize Kobe for having had the good fortune of playing with Shaq for the first half of his career. If anything, he should have been content with being the second banana until Shaq began to decline, instead of trying to take over the team from 03 onwards.

  • Kap

    I just wanna know why is it so easy for people to say Lebron will be as good as Michael but not Kobe?

  • The Philosopher

    LeBron or Kobe will never be as good as Michael.

  • Kap

    I was hearing in April and early May how Lebron is as good Michael…No one went hysterical went that happened but when 24 won #5 everyone went ballistic.

  • Kap

    You people will never let this guy be as good as Michael no matter what he does…It’s ironic the league wanted someone to replace Mike and when the got it they hate it and deny it.

  • Kap

    Jerry West is quoted over weekend in saying KB will go down as one of top three players of all time. All the greats are saying he is as good why can’t you people get with the program.

  • John

    Heard a rumor today that T-Mac wants to join the Lakers for the MLE. 6th ring for Kobe. 0 for LeBron

  • John

    Heard a rumor today that T-Mac wants to join the Lakers for the MLE. 6th ring for Kobe. 0 for LeBron
    http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/NBA_Free_Agency_Tracy_McGrady_Strongly_Interested_In_Lakers/2772162

  • Kap

    If he gets healthy that could be dangerous for the entire league but I think he’s done as a player unfortunately. MLE is too much for a injury prone player like him.

  • andrew Bartolomei

    Some of these comments are stupid. One commenter said if a guy is not MVP of the finals, he does not really have any rings. He said Kobe at this point only has 2 titles. How dumb can people be. Kobe and Shaq won those 3 titles in 2000-2002. By that logic, Shaq only has 3 titles since with Wade, Wade was the MVP. I think Kareem only has 2 MVP finals. If people do not like Kobe fine, but give him credit. You people have not played basketball in your life, yet you sit back and make stupid criteria.

  • andrew Bartolomei

    People are unfair to Kobe. If Lebron won two titles in a row and had MVP in the finals both years people would be saying how great is this. Kobe does it and people are discrediting him by saying last year he only beat Magic and this year he looked bad in game 7. People who do this are not sports fans they just do not like Kobe, because anyone who knows basketball knows that a man with 5 rings and 2 MVP finals awards is great. The numbers speak for themselves. Magic 5 titles 3 MVP. Kareen 6 with 2. Kobe 5 with 2. No way to deny. When Kobe won 5 rings last week he is assured greatness.

  • Thedon

    6 words.. “Gasol’s Left Foot Touched The Ground”

  • http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Xai88DrYsAhqiM:http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/b8ad869b-bb74-4ba0-89b5-857787be7ba6.jpg Jackie Moon

    3 Words … “Ray Allen Airballed”

  • http://SLAM GSWARRIORS

    First off, Kobe is the best player of 2000-2010. Period. The most competitive NBA player currently in the league. Still not better than Jordan. Yes it is true that Jordan was not as successful in his first couple of seasons, but he was drafted into a rebuilding team, which needed to mold a few seasons until they started winning championships. Just think if MJ never retired after winning the chip in 93. They might have won 10 titles straight. They were unstopable in the 90′s. MJ never lost in the finals and won 6 titles with 5 finals mvp’s. G O A T

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