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Sunday, June 20th, 2010 at 11:27 am  |  64 responses

Kobe Bryant: Just Getting Started?

by Tzvi Twersky

Ever since Thursday night, pundits (and sons) have been weighing in on Kobe Bryant’s legacy. Namely: Is Bryant anywhere near as good as Jordan? Some say yes, the overwhelmingly majority say no.

As for me, I’ll evaluate Kobe’s GOAT claim once he hangs up his Nikes. What I can tell you know, though, is this: Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of his generation, and, based on his postseason play and his strong supporting cast, he’s not done accumulating stats or Title just yet (unless his injuries are worse than we know).

As Marc Heisler of the L.A. Times writes:

Bryant’s fifth title may not be his last, but it’s one more than Shaquille O’Neal or Tim Duncan has won.

Shaq’s 38. Timmy’s 34. Kobe is the one who’s soon to be 32, on a team poised to challenge for more titles, assuming they recover from this one.

Andrew Bynum is already set for knee surgery. We don’t even know how many operations Kobe will need for his knee, finger and other injured body parts we didn’t know about.

Still, with successful procedures and the wisdom not to try to play seven months with a broken finger again, Bryant has years to stack ever greater accomplishments atop each other.

If you haven’t heard, he and his five titles are now in the “conversation” with Michael Jordan, just one ahead of him at six.


Here’s what you can say: Whatever state Kobe’s public relations are in, this isn’t an act a basketball fan would want to miss.

If you combined MJ with Batman you’d have Kobe.

Jordan was like Rembrandt to Bryant’s Picasso and wouldn’t have even thought of taking one of those fadeway-jackknifing-legs-for-leverage-hand-in-his-face-no-one-can-make-that-I-don’t-believe-it shots Kobe knocks down regularly.

Of course, that’s why Michael shot 49.7% for his career and Kobe’s at 45.5%.

Before Bryant, I can’t remember hearing coaches telling players not to get dismayed when he starts making those incredible shots, one after another, as if in some Layup Line of the Gods.

“I keep telling my guys not to get discouraged, but after a while you have to get discouraged,” the Suns’ Alvin Gentry said during the Western Conference finals.

“I tell you, you have to laugh, because if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry.”

Said Boston’s Doc Rivers in the Finals: “You don’t worry about it. I mean, hell, he’s Kobe Bryant.”

This ride lasts only so long.

Let’s hope we won’t miss Kobe and he won’t miss us.


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  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    Kobe is going to the best of all time

  • rich

    we are really lucky these days. we get to see kobe take fadeaway 3s that seem like layups, lebron take of from the ft line, durant being well, a rubber band, and countless types of players unimaginable ten years ago. dont get me wrong i grew up watching jordan, pipen, malone, ai nd of course carter, but the new nba has some really unique players

  • http://Www.lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Kobe deserves love, I just hope his daughters don’t start a Twitter battle with the Jordans.

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    Really offended by the art reference in here. For a sports writer to haphazardly throw in generic well known artists and ignore all connotations and semiotics surrounding an artists particular style and then to compare them to a jump shot? Really? I have a degree in art history, leave such references to people with similar backgrounds. Leave it to someone from LA to attemp to be foolishly cultured and grand.

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    Having said that…Kobe is a complete joy to watch. Of course he is the best of the generation.

  • kriz

    kobe is not always a complete joy to watch. when he plays good defensive teams half the time he is on, half the time he is successful at chucking bricks that hurts his team. he will forever be the best 1 on 1 player of his era. id of course rather see a facilitator. celtics proved if you dont go for his pump fakes he can be stopped.

    right now he is in the 6-10 range all time. one more title and you can make a strong argument he is top 10 (titles arent everything and he will have more than most)

  • hoodsnake

    Kobe is great. 81 points in a game , a million 40 and 50 points in a game , most points by a Laker ever and probably will be 6th all time at the end of next season in points scored at a comparably young age but dude only has 2 Finals MVP awards. Thats 1 less than Shaq , 1 less than Duncan and 4 less than Jordan. You can ride someone coattails for rings (see Horry , Robert) or be a sidekick like Kobe was for Shaq but you must be the best in the Finals in my book a couple more times to be compared to Jordan. Its probably because they play the same position and he will be Finals MVP again next year -book it – but come on!

  • Megalo

    Uhmmm

    MJ – 5 mvp’s, 6 finals mvp’s
    Duncan – 2 mvp’s, 3 finals mvp’s
    Shaq – 1 mvp, 3 finals mvp’s
    Kobe – 1 mvp, 2 finals mvp’s

    Kobe’s only been the top dog on 2 championship teams, people need to take a deep breath and think

  • jntraffik

    @LDR4. I am both a writer and an artist. So i understand both cultures, but you need to understand that he needs to point out familiar names in order to draw a picture for the reader, which a lot of good writers do. As for art, its all about perspective and the way you not only look at a piece but how you approach it as well. There are countless times where artist have drawn abstractly about something they know very little about but used art as a vehicle to better understand that culture. Maybe this writer ignores the connotations and semiotics surrounding an artist, but is that relevant to the reader who is interest in this infamous debate.

  • Lawrence

    I think the lakers will win the nba championship again for the third time next season!AMEN.hehe

  • cheers

    This is how i think of it. Superman is Jordan and Batman is Kobe.

  • The Philosopher

    @jntraffic: Teach, brethren! Teach! And you are right in stating that Tzvi Twersky is a good writer, in my opinion.

  • Exiled Zebra

    Really? He knocks those shots down regularly? You sure about that? Did you watch the finals? He didnt knock anything down with regularity. Layup line of the gods? Talk about a short memory.

  • Ronald

    @Zebra: seems like you’re the one with the short memory. he only had one real bad shooting game, which was game 7.

    I’m kinda annoyed that they put Duncan in there as comparison. Shaq has been a +1 the last 5 years at best. He hasn’t done crap for a while. Whilst Duncan has kept his team in the elite for the past damn decade.

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    @LDR4 The snobbery emanating from you is revolting.

  • Elias

    Kobe is deffinitely comparable to MJ, the stats are comparable, the acomplishments are comparable and especially the game is comparable. Kobe’s not as good, but I mean comoon, how close can you get?? I mean 1 in a 100000000000000 people can get closer to MJ than Kobe. And yeah Kobe can knock sick shots down as a regularity, he always doesn’t, but everybody’s off sometimes, and I think that Kobe is the best ever at making tough jumpers.

  • Orlando Green

    I’m with Jackie Moon.. Threepeat!

  • MikeC.

    Kobe has a chance to go from great to truly special over the next couple seasons. This year was the first time I’ve noticed him start to lose his legs a bit. If Kobe’s game evolves the way Jordan’s did at the end of his career, then Kobe will be able to play for a few more seasons at a very high level. Kobe needs to add MJ’s low-post game. Kobe already has the high-post game and he’s always had more range on his jumper than Jordan. What separated Jordan from everyone else was his ability to keep adding tricks to his game. MJ was also not above using dirty old man moves (the pushoff against the Jazz in 98). If Kobe adds a couple dirty old man tricks to his arsenal, he’s rolling. I can’t believe I’m being so complementary to the leader of the team I hate the most. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. I hate the truth.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Biased journalism from the LA Times, which happens with any local news outlet.

  • nastierthanu

    Yeah cosign LDR4 people have to get away from the artist baller comparison that type ish ruffles my feathers. Once mike retired it was all about who could possibly fill his shoes. The nba and the american public went on a crusade to locate the next MJ and now that we have one we slander him and can’t stand that he’s doing exactly what we begged of him to do.

  • Ronald

    @Jackie: You have to kinda undertand what LDR4 is trying to say. A lot of the writers try and compare what they do not understand, just like how some writers automatically compare any white point guard with fancy dribbling moves to Peter Maravich, or any white forward with a decent jump shot to Larry Bird. Not only do they insult the original, it shows that some of these writers are too lazy to use well thought out analogies.

  • Jay Cutler

    This article is just stupid but it’s easy to see why in the wake of the title slam is trying to get the kobe lovers on the site to raise their click rates.

    in his rookie year jordan led his team in points, rebounds, assists, and steals. mj leads kobe by far in career games with at least 12, 10, 5, 3 assists in a game. The only category kobe leads mj in is in career games with 0 assists. The same holds if you replace assists above with rebounds: career games for MJ with at least 15 rebounds: 66 vs career games for Kobe with at least 15 rebounds: 29 – and so on with other rebound numbers.
    Seasons with at least 200 steals for Jordan 6 vs for Kobe: 0.
    Seasons with at least 100 blocks for Jordan 2 vs for Kobe: 0.
    Career games with at least 40 points: 211 vs 115 in MJs favor.

    Kobe Lovers: no one is saying your man is not one of the greatest players since Jordan. But just because he is one of the greatest at making tough jumpshots doesn’t actually dispute these kinds of facts. In the end the numbers that tell the story of CONSISTENT domination don’t lie no matter how detailed you try to get.

  • snuff

    kobe now deserves to be within the top 10 all time. he is just compared so much to jordan, mostly that he patterned his game around him. there will not be another jordan, so remember him as kobe. he deserves some love or at least respect. he is not the greatest, but given what he is one, especially the maturation in his game and leadership, he deserves consideration.

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  • knock knock

    Jay- Those are some random stats that don’t particularly mean anything. Kobe= 5 championships MJ=6…’nuff said.

  • Yesse

    Kobe has a possibility to become a better player than MJ, but not yet. Not close, well you can still probably see him a few miles away from MJ on the highway catching up.

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    Good point in that Kobe takes more “difficult” shots than MJ. I’m trying to think back to MJ days, and I don’t remember him taking that many forced and bad shots. Maybe he did. But that’s a good reason for his worse shooting pct while seeming like a better shooter from 3pt land. it’s possible their games aren’t that similar after all. going by the FG%, i’d still say MJ had a better offensive game plan, able to score at a more efficient clip (PER as well). MJ understood his game and played consistently harder on D than kobe does. Kobe goes more for the crazy fadeaway shots and gets up alot more for star players on D. MJ stuck to his either awesome penetration skills or steady fadeaway. MJ more unstoppable in less ways than kobe, but more consistent (meaning more unstoppable overall). But it was also a different league back then. tough to compare, and maybe it’s better just not to. There’s no best player ever, just a bunch of really awesome talents. although MJ’s still the strongest argument to be the best. if kobe wins say 3 or 4 more titles (pretty much impossible unless the celtics completely fall apart and artest becomes his old self, cuz really in game seven that was just his game before he came to the lakers), then there will be no more argument, no matter what the stats say.

  • e

    i was talking to some og ballers in nyc watching some nyc summer hoops down at west 4th st and all i heard was this is the weakest era for hoops ever and how the nba is a watered down joke smh the best comment of the day i heard was if penny hardaway never gets hurt we wouldnt be discussing kobe

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Two more rings for Kobe. BOOK IT!!!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    The thoughts of Jerry West:
    http://www.hoopsworld.comStory.asp?story_id=16520
    On his comments about Kobe being the greatest Laker ever:
    “I don’t pay any attention to that and I will be really candid with you. I never even once said that I would even belong in that conversation because I don’t believe I am. Kobe Bryant is greatest Laker player to ever play. Period. I love Magic Johnson and his contribution but Magic Johnson had a lot more help to be honest with you. He played with sometimes five All-Stars and Kobe Bryant is just a different talent. He will go down as one of the two or three greatest players of all time I think. In his ability to do things that other people can’t do, his ability to win games late in the game, and his defensive ability. He has the all around game and when you look at him, you don’t see what’s inside. I think that’s what really sets the great ones apart. I think he’s the greatest Laker player of all time. He’s certainly the greatest Laker talent we’ve ever had.”

  • RedRum

    oh dear…. here we go again… This is Kobe’s second ring not 5th. We won the first 3 as 1B to Shaq’s 1A. Duncan wan all 4 rings as 1A. He would have not won those first three rings if it was not for Shaq. shaq had 33 ppg on those first 3 rings and Kobe had 21ppg. I know Kobe fans and journalists are trying to make up a new basketball superhero but the truth is this. This is his second ring as 1A, and these are the ones that actually count. If we are to measure any ring won, Horry has 8… Please writers and fans, get over it, and acknowledge that although numerically this is Kobe’s fifth, it essence it is his second.

  • RedRum

    oh, Jay Cutler nailed it with the numbers. Even more proof that Kobe is not even close.

  • Forrest Crunk

    only a moron could compare MJ’s and Kobe’s career numbers and still say Kobe is better than Jordan.

  • Cool Dude

    @RedRum

    Clearly, someone doesn’t remember finals Ginobli ’05 and Parker winning the finals mvp ’07. Does that mean Duncan isn’t the greatest PF ever? It would if we are going by your terrible logic.

    Oh yeah, Kobe averaged 30, 7, 6 in 01 finals and carried more than his load whenever Shaq fouled out.

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    love that middle section where this guy suggests that Jordan didn’t take hard shots, and then portrays Kobe’s willingness to take very tough shots as an all around good thing, when it may be his biggest weakness. it’s all mental. any time he’s gone up against a good defender–Bruce Bowen, Shane Battier, Ray Allen, Tony Allen–who’s ready to do everything they can to make him work, he seems determined to show everyone how unstoppable he is offensively. of course, sometimes he’s able to pull it off, because he is great, but other times when the defender(s) is doing a great job on him, he’ll just refuse to pass out of the double or triple team, call for a pick, etc, and it often leads to missed (forced) shots and turnovers. and then it’s almost like the writer is suggesting that Kobe’s better because his FG% is lower. is this guy serious?

  • The Philosopher

    I agree with e’s comment @7:02p.m. concerning the weakness of this era, and if Anfernee Hardaway doesn’t get hurt…

  • Dillan

    I’m actually thankful this is a case to argue upon. We are spoilt with so many superstars and legends of the game.

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    @Forrest Only a moron would use numbers and accomplishments to compare players

  • COLT6

    And here’s the MJ-Kobe debate again. For the last time, MJ > Kobe. MJ did not have Shaq or Pau for big men (worked with the dominant likes of Cartwright and Luc F@ckin’ Longley) and he had 6 rings. Ask Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Miller, Ewing and countless other greats who were denied of chips during MJ’s reign. Come on now folks, get real.

  • COLT6

    Not into art but on the subject of jumpshots, I know who copied his moves from whom. Plus on and off court demeanor and actuations? People in LA, you are admiring a first-class copycat.

  • pennydunk_1

    @Jackie Moon; Amen
    @The Philosopher; back in ’96, when Bulls went 72-10, there were too people talking about the competition being weak.

  • pennydunk_1

    @The Philosopher; And Penny was dope, but Kobe is a force of nature

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    @COLT6 How convenient you only mention big men, when Michael had Scottie Pippen, who lead the Bulls to almost the same record the year after MJ left, and got shafted on a bad call that would have put them in the Conference Finals.

  • http://deleted KH10

    ummmmmm didnt Mike practically invent the ridiculous spinning, fallaway, impossible jumpshots that Kobe’s being praised for? after he came back from baseball dude did nothing but hit 22ft fadeaways that every player since has tried to copy.

    kobe is moving closer to 2nd and is in the conversation with magic and bird.

  • Larsylad

    People say MJ is the GOAT over Kobe since he has 6 over Kobes 5. Well, add those numbers together and you get what? Bill Russell. What am I sayi g? no, not that Bill is as good as 23 and 24 together. But I’m saying that if the measurement stick is rings, then stop arguing and start counting. If not, add all parameters to the debate.

  • Krisjanis

    But remember, Jordan played about 100 years ago. Then it was much more easier that it is now. MJ couldn’t F@*k up Boston as bad as he did teams like Jazz (jazz-serious?)

  • Purple & Gold Reign

    Seriously what makes me laugh and is so stupid is how Jordan lovers are so insecure about Jordan’s legacy. I’ve seen Jordan lovers go to great lengths to defend their god, some people like “Bruce Blitz” on youtube is hilarious and spends time in his life dedicating videos just to hate on Kobe. Then there are dedicated web site like “We are here to defend the legacy of Michael Jordan’s Honor”. Seriously some people just have to much time on their hands and need to grow up and get a high life. I’ve been very fortunate to see Jordan in his prime and Kobe’s career from the very beginning. Not like a lot of the kids nowadays who are under 25 years old who only got to see Jordan in 3rd comeback with the Wizards when Jordan was old and a shell of himself. Seriously these kids who say Jordan is the GOAT & buy his retro Air Jordans never saw Jordan in his prime but yet they still go around saying Jordan is the GOAT because they see Jordan’s great moments from highlights and his career games on ESPN Classic & NBA TV. The same kids never saw Jordan struggle his first 7 years in the league when Jordan was taking 1st round exits and kept failing against the Bad Boy Pistons. Another huge misconception that Jordan lovers have is that they view & claim Kobe disrespects Jordan which is total bull shit and is false. He’s said countless times in interviews ever since he was in his 2nd year as a pro and as a fist time all starter that he has nothing but respect for Jordan and that he’s called, talked to Jordan for advice. Seriously you go on to sports forums or even here on slam online and you get Jordan fans who are so insecure and paranoid that they start to critique Kobe’s mannerisms and say stuff like “Oh man look at how Kobe celebrated after he won the Finals this year, he got up on the score keeps table and started celebrating like Jordan did before” or even a few years back when Kobe changed his jersey number from 8 to 24 haters and Jordan lovers were saying “Oh really Kobe are you changing your number to 24 because you think your 1 better than Jordan” or another comical thing Jordan lovers and Kobe Haters were saying when Kobe chose to wear number 10 for team USA during the 2008 Olympics “Oh look at Kobe he things he’s better than Jordan and choose to wear number 10 because Jordan wore number 9 on the dream and Kobe things he’s 1 better than Jordan again”. These really just makes me laugh whenever I see the level Jordan Lovers & Kobe hater go to hate on Kobe. I said this before and I’m 100% certain that Jordan fans & Lovers are the WORST who hate on Kobe the hardest.

  • Purple & Gold

    Seriously what makes me laugh and is so stupid is how Jordan lovers are so insecure about Jordan’s legacy. I’ve seen Jordan lovers go to great lengths to defend their god, some people like “Bruce Blitz” on youtube is hilarious and spends time in his life dedicating videos just to hate on Kobe. Then there are dedicated web site like “We are here to defend the legacy of Michael Jordan’s Honor”. Seriously some people just have to much time on their hands and need to grow up and get a high life. I’ve been very fortunate to see Jordan in his prime and Kobe’s career from the very beginning. Not like a lot of the kids nowadays who are under 25 years old who only got to see Jordan in 3rd comeback with the Wizards when Jordan was old and a shell of himself. Seriously these kids who say Jordan is the GOAT & buy his retro Air Jordans never saw Jordan in his prime but yet they still go around saying Jordan is the GOAT because they see Jordan’s great moments from highlights and his career games on ESPN Classic & NBA TV. The same kids never saw Jordan struggle his first 7 years in the league when Jordan was taking 1st round exits and kept failing against the Bad Boy Pistons. Another huge misconception that Jordan lovers have is that they view & claim Kobe disrespects Jordan which is total bull shit and is false. He’s said countless times in interviews ever since he was in his 2nd year as a pro and as a fist time all starter that he has nothing but respect for Jordan and that he’s called, talked to Jordan for advice. Seriously you go on to sports forums or even here on slam online and you get Jordan fans who are so insecure and paranoid that they start to critique Kobe’s mannerisms and say stuff like “Oh man look at how Kobe celebrated after he won the Finals this year, he got up on the score keeps table and started celebrating like Jordan did before” or even a few years back when Kobe changed his jersey number from 8 to 24 haters and Jordan lovers were saying “Oh really Kobe are you changing your number to 24 because you think your 1 better than Jordan” or another comical thing Jordan lovers and Kobe Haters were saying when Kobe chose to wear number 10 for team USA during the 2008 Olympics “Oh look at Kobe he things he’s better than Jordan and choose to wear number 10 because Jordan wore number 9 on the dream and Kobe things he’s 1 better than Jordan again”. These really just makes me laugh whenever I see the level Jordan Lovers & Kobe hater go to hate on Kobe. I said this before and I’m 100% certain that Jordan fans & Lovers are the WORST who hate on Kobe the hardest.

  • e

    Krisjanis Posted: Jun.21 at 6:42 am
    But remember, Jordan played about 100 years ago. Then it was much more easier that it is now. MJ couldn’t F@*k up Boston as bad as he did teams like Jazz (jazz-serious?)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    really? he got past the bad boys which was one of the most brutal defenses in nba history but cant get past the celtics of this era LOL in this no hand checking call every hard foul a flagrant era

  • monkeyball

    While I think Jordan was better than Kobe, there are some things that could be mentioned.
    First, as Bill Simmons has pointed out, Jordan was better, but Kobe will retire having had a better overall career. He’ll almost definitely be higher on the all-time scoring list and will probably win more titles. Who knows what the record books would look like had MJ played all of 93-94 and 94-95?
    Second, while it’s true that Jordan won 6 Finals MVP, people of a certain age recall that Scottie Pippen arguably deserved the MVP in the 97 and/or 98 Finals.
    Finally, it’s completely unfair to penalize Kobe for having had the good fortune of playing with Shaq for the first half of his career. If anything, he should have been content with being the second banana until Shaq began to decline, instead of trying to take over the team from 03 onwards.

  • Kap

    I just wanna know why is it so easy for people to say Lebron will be as good as Michael but not Kobe?

  • The Philosopher

    LeBron or Kobe will never be as good as Michael.

  • Kap

    I was hearing in April and early May how Lebron is as good Michael…No one went hysterical went that happened but when 24 won #5 everyone went ballistic.

  • Kap

    You people will never let this guy be as good as Michael no matter what he does…It’s ironic the league wanted someone to replace Mike and when the got it they hate it and deny it.

  • Kap

    Jerry West is quoted over weekend in saying KB will go down as one of top three players of all time. All the greats are saying he is as good why can’t you people get with the program.

  • John

    Heard a rumor today that T-Mac wants to join the Lakers for the MLE. 6th ring for Kobe. 0 for LeBron

  • John

    Heard a rumor today that T-Mac wants to join the Lakers for the MLE. 6th ring for Kobe. 0 for LeBron
    http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/NBA_Free_Agency_Tracy_McGrady_Strongly_Interested_In_Lakers/2772162

  • Kap

    If he gets healthy that could be dangerous for the entire league but I think he’s done as a player unfortunately. MLE is too much for a injury prone player like him.

  • andrew Bartolomei

    Some of these comments are stupid. One commenter said if a guy is not MVP of the finals, he does not really have any rings. He said Kobe at this point only has 2 titles. How dumb can people be. Kobe and Shaq won those 3 titles in 2000-2002. By that logic, Shaq only has 3 titles since with Wade, Wade was the MVP. I think Kareem only has 2 MVP finals. If people do not like Kobe fine, but give him credit. You people have not played basketball in your life, yet you sit back and make stupid criteria.

  • andrew Bartolomei

    People are unfair to Kobe. If Lebron won two titles in a row and had MVP in the finals both years people would be saying how great is this. Kobe does it and people are discrediting him by saying last year he only beat Magic and this year he looked bad in game 7. People who do this are not sports fans they just do not like Kobe, because anyone who knows basketball knows that a man with 5 rings and 2 MVP finals awards is great. The numbers speak for themselves. Magic 5 titles 3 MVP. Kareen 6 with 2. Kobe 5 with 2. No way to deny. When Kobe won 5 rings last week he is assured greatness.

  • Thedon

    6 words.. “Gasol’s Left Foot Touched The Ground”

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    3 Words … “Ray Allen Airballed”

  • http://SLAM GSWARRIORS

    First off, Kobe is the best player of 2000-2010. Period. The most competitive NBA player currently in the league. Still not better than Jordan. Yes it is true that Jordan was not as successful in his first couple of seasons, but he was drafted into a rebuilding team, which needed to mold a few seasons until they started winning championships. Just think if MJ never retired after winning the chip in 93. They might have won 10 titles straight. They were unstopable in the 90′s. MJ never lost in the finals and won 6 titles with 5 finals mvp’s. G O A T

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