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Friday, June 18th, 2010 at 10:00 am  |  171 responses

Michael Jordan’s Son: Don’t Compare Kobe to MJ

Things weren’t looking so hot for the Lakers and Kobe Bryant through much of last night’s epic game, and during their struggles, MJ’s son took to the Twitter machine to express his thoughts on Mr. Mamba: “NO ONE…And I mean NO ONE should EVER com par kobe Bryant to my dad an say that he is anywhere near close to my dad He’s jagging this game … Don’t get me wrong Kobe is one of the best in the league…. Just no where near my dad…good game right here tho”

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  • http://nba.com/cavaliers Stephon

    It’s true what he’s saying. I agree with him 100% no one will ever be better than Jordan.

  • ray ray

    You’re dad was the man – but so is Kobe. So I can say we could compare in some ways. I like both of them – but Jordan is the thy king!

  • Hussman25

    MJ is and will be the KING! God, please dont let Bean pass him!

  • Lombu

    Great stuff, he’s right, no doubt about it. Kobe would say the same. Don’t compare’em..

  • jumpman3224

    I’m not for these comparison when one guy is still playing. Yea Kobe had a bad shooting game, but he did other things. He had 10 in the 4th quarter of a game seven that they entered losing, got huge boards and was the leader of an outstanding Defensive game. Some games Jordan didnt have it either and he did whatever he could to win.

  • Bruno

    MJ will be always the best but what are you marcus jordan??? you shouldnt write that

  • Elias

    It annoys me how people really hate this comprassion so much, when they are very much alike. Like there have been alot worse comprassions, and nobody whines about them. I think this is the best comprassion in the history of basketball, sure MJ is better, but Kobe is the guy who has come the closest. He’s not number 2 on my all time list, but he could rise there, and I think when you look at it skill vise, Kobe is number 2. And they’r games are so similiar, they played under Phil Jackson and Kobe’s one championship away from him and if he wins it next year, they’ll both have 2 threepeats. This could be the best comprassion in the history of sports.

  • pennydunk_1

    Remember MJ’s percentage, ’96 Finals vs Sonics?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    MJ has 6 chips in 6 finals appearances, 6 Finals MVP’s, and he never even had to play a game 7 in the Finals…you tell me who’s better…

  • Randy Brown

    “Jagging”?

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    Both players are great but Jordan is the greatest ever. Period.

  • gc

    I dont even like kobe but you can tell hes sweating now kobes definstley in the converstaion for being the greatest of all time rmeber kobe has also done alot for the game like scoring 81 point in the modern era and loads more where he comes short is defensive player of the year he not gonna win that now dwights around he way over reacting hes got a way to go but jordan must be hearing footsteps now

  • Exile

    MJ is the GOAT, thus there will ALWAYS be comparrisons to him from the current Torch bearers. From failed heirs like Vinsanity to premature mentions like LBJ, people will always use the yardstick goal of MJ. Mamba just happens to be the best we have right now, meaning it will dog him more than anyone else.

  • giogolo

    People from the Pau Gasol article which went to over 130 50 comments SHOULD comment on this one.

  • ujangapri

    and Marcus Jordan have to go back to the english class. He’s wrong at typing Compare.

  • namik

    Should Marcus really be talking about comparisons to his pops?? I mean if the genetic pool ever failed anyone, it was him and his brother.

  • Zeke

    Kobe isn’t better and most people dont think he ever will be. All I’m sayin is that with 5 championships, he HAS to be in the conversation.

    You can look at the stats and say Jordan won 6 out of 6 or you can say that Kobe has been to MORE Finals than Jordan. The argument can go either way.

    No one will EVER overtake Jordan but Kobe is the closest we will ever see to the King.

  • T-Money

    He’s right. Forget stats and rings. Michael just gave you that feeling that he was going to take important games by the throat and there was absolutely nothing you could do about it. Kobe is a tremendous player in his own right but you can see that his peers believe that he can be frustrated and hounded into a terrible game like last night. I’m going esoteric here but he’s not on MJ’s level of just ripping you to pieces because you dare stepped to. Cats were afraid to brag and show confidence around MJ. Again, Kobe is an outstanding player and it doesn’t do him justice to limit his career to a comparison with MJ. He will get a statue in front of Staples and is a top 10 (top 5?) player. But he’s a mortal, MJ was not.

  • kato

    And, why is this noteworthy? A guy whose own skill level can’t even measure up to B.J. Armstrong is taking twitter shots at Kobe Bryant? Please, step away from the computer.

  • Jrooks

    Jordans son is straight f*g kobe is the best ever

  • K.a.

    Well of course he has to say that. Its his fickin dad.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Namik… That’s absolutely hilarious.

  • http://albayanos.com LeoneL

    He’s actually comparing them saying that Kobe is nowhere near Michael.

  • namik

    Also what was the story with MJ in the closeout game against the Blazers? Ah, how soon we forget…

  • http://nicekicks.com Meloman2.0

    Kid does have a point

  • millertime

    @ Bruno…lol sounds like MJ’s son is being protective of his dad. he has no reason to, MJ has built his own arguement with his career, which all basketball fans know speaks volumes. And also why is it so bad to compare greatness with greatness. I wil always say MJ is the greatest, but we should also recognize Kobe’s greatness while we can. The same will be said for LeBron in the future (even though I hate Lebron)and hopefully Kevin Durant. Stop hating and start appreciating greatness while its displayed before you.

  • Daro

    Everyone that knows basketball knows that Kobe should be compared more to Pippen than to Jordan. Pippen was second choice in Jordans team, Kobe was second choice in Shaqs team when they won 3 rings. And now they have Gasol, Artest, DFish and Odom.. I mean even if Kobe was just an average NBA player they would win a championship let alone that he’s currently a Top 5 NBA player. You can’t just credit Kobe on those two championships that he’s won with Gasol/DFish.. without the fishy Gasol trade this would all be a dream. Take out Kobe and sub in Lebron, Wade or even Kevin Durant and you’d have the same result. Jordan though he’s a whole other animal, don’t compare them two, ever.

  • C-Lo_The_Great

    and mj scored 61 on celts great D while kobe dropped 81 on a weak raptors squad but i will say i have a lot of respect toward kobe since he is climbing GOAT list with that in mind i dont even think he is the greatest laker of all time (which isnt a bad thing)

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    by the time MJ won his 5th ring he had taken two years off in between his 3rd and 4th only to come back and pick up where he left off. So, of course, the whole league knew they were in the presence of greatness. he had the whole league shook by then. I saw MJ and I’m seeing Kobe. And while MJ is the GOAT, we CAN “compare” Kobe to MJ. You’d be biased, short-sighted or just a bit thick to say otherwise. Shoot, MJ didn’t have as good a jumpshot as Kobe did at this age. Even I can admit that. Certain skills MJ had that Kobe doesn’t and vice versa. Now, what happens when Kobe gets a 6th ring and…ohh…7th ring? Can we compare then? Shoot, when MJ was in the league he was obviously the best player in the L. I don’t think you can say the same for Kobe but he’s still winning them chips man. What’s that mean?

  • jumpman3224

    Not to take away anything from MJ, but he shot 26% in the clinching game against the Sonics in 96. It happens. This shooting performance doesn’t hurt Kobe’s legacy, being able to win inspite of it enhances it.

  • knock knock

    Marcus Jordan forgot to add that he betted all his money on the celtics. You can tell he’s just pissed that kobe won. Kobe’s prollie getting more love from michael than marcus is.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    And keep in mind that in Jordan’s final championship game he did miss 20 shots — but we think only of the one he made at the end. SO EVERYONE STOP HATING, at least Kobe only missed 18 shots.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    And keep in mind that in Jordan’s final championship game he did miss 20 shots — but we think only of the one he made at the end. SO EVERYONE STOP HATING, at least Kobe only missed 18 shots. BOOK IT!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    MJ>KOBE

  • Yesse

    This is just ridicilous. I bet MJ logged into his sons account and wrote this. Every time when Kobe gets closer this kind of stuff starts happening.

  • Elias

    One thing that will always stand between MJ and Kobe besides the stats and acomplishemts (the difference isn’t big in those), but MJ has more charisma than Kobe and people like him more. Kobe’s the most popular basketball player now, but he probably has also the most haters. These days everybody loves MJ, nobody wants to criticize him anymore, Kobe’s getting criticized for everything. When he scoer 10 points in that 3rd quarter, he was a ballhog, and now when he said he passed Shaq, people said that he’s an ass, and now that he missed oll those shots he’s nowhere near MJ, and all the Kobe hating MJ fans are getting defensive, cause Kobe’s geting closer.

  • millertime

    @daro i can see your point that kobe was second to shaq for the first 3 peat, but i feel your claiming he is just another role player on the lakers team. if you were to take kobe off that roster they would have barely made it to the playoffs. And yes certain players like lebron, wade, durant, melo etc could fit in and they may win it all, but dont take away from kobe’s accomplishments because of his team. The fact is he was the LEADER of that team, that is his team and they go as Kobe goes (for the most part). dont for a second think that the other starters/role players on the roster would be just as good without kobe because that is false and plain ignorant. kobe has made his team, his teammates better.

  • BIG T

    THe NBa was way different when jordan played. He never had a guy of kevin durants size and abilities guarding him. the Nba now is so much better. Oh and dont forget jordan had Pippen everytime he is a top 50 player of all-time not to mention the great supporting cast. Kobe is as good as jordan, he just not a big of brand as jordan thats all.

  • http://aspov.blogspot.com Cheryl

    He’s in the conversation, though son.

  • millertime

    @daro btw shaq benefitted immensely from an up and coming player of the decade. acknowledge and appreciate a great player when they come by. i hate lebron but when he does his thing i have to appreciate his ability to be great.

  • IndyB

    Anyone remember when Marcus Jordans high school team played on ESPN2 and Eric Gordon had outscored thier ENTIRE team when he left in the fourth due to the fact it was a blowout?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Did y’all see those shots Kobe was putting up?
    I wanted the Lakers to lose and I still was pissed at those shots. That was ugly.

  • Myth buster

    Guess somebody should have told you that in your father most famous finals game against utah where he hit the game winner he missed 20 shots in that ballgame. Lmao all you remember is the one you hit I guess you got caught up in the whole jordan myth and folk tales of him doing it all by himself. go look that son he clanged 20 shots off the rim! just goes to show that he was human after all

  • VB324

    MJ and Kobe are both great. MJ is better, peep the numbers, hes more efficient than Kobe. And lets keep it real, if MJ doesnt take off those almost 2 seasons in the 90s he would’ve won 8 in a row.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Mythbuster Thank you! MJ was human.

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    I think they can be compared based on skill and their actual style of play. However I don’t think there is a real comparison in terms of whos better. Kobe is simply MJ light. That’s not a slam against Kobe, moreso a recognition of MJ’s greatness. I’m not a fan of comparing players based on rings beacuse it’s a team sport and even the greats need a cast around them to win. There are several player with more rings than Kobe or MJ that would never be considered better. Ron Artest has more rings than Barkley and Malone combined – rings are not the deciding factor. However, now Kobe has 2 rings as the leader of the team, Shaq has 3 as the leader and Jordan has 6, Big Bill R has 11. Just a ramble I know. But I bet it was MJ who actually sent this message on twitter using his son’s account.

  • Gman

    Kobe can get 7 titles, he still wont be the best in the game, but hes admitted that himself so.. lets leave the comparisons alone.

    Kobe..no shame in being 2nd best.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Kobe has done this year what MJ never did. And I’m not talkin’ bout playing a game with the flu, I’m talking about serious injurys to his shooting hand, and knee. If u actually play the game u know those r game shattering injurys. Yet here Kobe stands, after 114 games, on the steps of greatness, back 2 back chips, back 2 back MVP, 3rd trip in a row to the finals. I don’t care who’s spoiled kid u r, u can’t take a single thing away from Kobe bean Bryant. In some aspects MJ cannot b compared to Kobe. This guy might b the greatest most relentless warrior in the history of the game. To b honest though Kobe’s shot selection is What has always been inferior to MJ’s. MJ was just soo smart patient, always seemed to get GOOD looks. Didn’t hurt that the zebras had his back more so than any player in history. But Look, when those crazy a$$ shots Kobe shoots go in, and again, & again…they’re amazing! And The main reason why we either love or hate Kobe. It’s the reason he had soo many buzzer beating game winners this season. And as long as he continues to do what he’s done over his career he will continue to be compared to MJ and rightly so. I’m not saying he’s better than Jordan, but… MJ’s lil man can cover his eyes all he wants, Mamba still gonna b there. And following that statement up with ” he’s ONE of the best players in the leauge” give it up already y’all!! Kobe has been the best in the L for years, But u can’t even admit that now. That’s alright history will.

  • JTaylor21

    What world did you guys live in that kobe has a better jumpshot than mike, come on. Mike has the greatest midrange jumper in nba history. Who must have been watching some one other than him. Also kobe is not equal to mike, get that out of your cranium. Mike avg. 34 ppg in the finals to kobe 25, won 6 finals out of 6 to kb 5 out of 7, 6 finals mvp to kb 2 (this last one should’ve been gasol but i digress), mike shot 50% FG or higher for many seasons while kb has never ever shot higher than 46%. So when kobe avg. 28ppg/41 FG% he is efficent but AI does they same while avg more assists his a inefficent ballhog. You can’t have it both ways kobe lovers. The man is one of the greatest but his not better than kareem, russel, magic, hakeem, oscar, west, or mike even ishiah.

  • truthteller

    Does Kobe have to win 10 ‘chips before he gets any respect from the public? can we start comparing him to Jordan after he wins his 11 ring or are we going to look for another reason why we shouldn’t compare him to jordan like:Jordan won 6 rings after eating a cheesburger before the game with onions and Kobe had to eat steak or something stupid like that! or Jordan scored the last points for his team while kobe had to pass the ball for his teammates to score! come on people! When is the hate gonna stop?

  • jumpman3224

    cosign @Negetivekreep and truthteller.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    How old is this guy? I thought he was in College already? I don’t usually like to be the Grammar police but WOW. That was horrible.

  • truthteller

    Jtaylor: Jobe wasn’t better than Isiah? I’m a die hard Pistons fan and I’m calling BS on that? And all those stats you’re quoting: who really cares? That just shows you how far you’re willing to go to prove that you can’t and won’t get MJ nuts outta your mouth! What does that really prove? Who has time to analyse that? Get the *&^ outta here! You MJ fans really, realy kill me! MJ wasn’t perfect. Since you love stupid stats find out MJ’s stats on the game 6 Bulls vs Blazers! and Sonics and Bulls in ’96 and then get back to me! ya’ll need to give it a rest.

  • Fat Lever

    Yea, how dare a son who looks up to his father and worships the ground the father walks on would dare have his father’s back! What an @$$hole, I hope my kid is never that loyal to me!

  • MC JAMM

    NO ONE CAN DISRESPECT MICHAEL JORDAN, HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR BASKETBALL. RIGHT NOW, YOU CANNOT DENY KOBI’S GAME, THE MAN IS A GENERAL IN THE GAME!!! YEAH HE HAS A LOT OF JORDAN QUALITIES, AND SIMILARITIES WHEN HE PLAYS. THE REALITY IS THIS, WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE GREAT, EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE SOMEONE BETTER. WHEN KOBI GETS RING #6, THEN RING #7, THEN THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS, HE WILL BE BETTER THAN MICHAEL JORDAN!!! SORRY JORDAN JR., THAT’S JUST THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS!!!!

  • Robb

    Well, he’s MJ’s son. What did you want him to say??? Of course he’s gonna say that, and yeah, MJ’s still the greatest, but you can definitely make comparisons, Kobe as a basketball player has everything MJ had and maybe more (his skills are better), but Kobe will never be greater than Jordan, because Jordan’s greatness goes beyond numbers and stats and championships.

  • The Lister Blister

    Like Jumpman and Seed is pointing out, MJ was certainly human. Like Kobe in this Finals, MJ struggled with his shot against Payton and the Sonics in 96. But we dont hear about that at all, just that the Bulls won 72 games and the championship. And MJ struggled heavily in game 6 vs the Blazers in 92.

    @Reed: just like Kobe, MJ didnt win anything without another allstar playing alongside him. This is a team game, you dont win it by yourself. You are definately downplaying Pippen’s importance on those Bulls team, especially during the second threepeat. If Pippen didnt get back troubles in the last two games of the 98 Finals, he might have got MVP. There was a lot of talk about that especially in the chicago media after Pippens stellar game 4 in that series.

  • G I I

    MJ > KB > Marcus.

  • Arek

    you guys are pathetic.. if all of you remember the great things MJ did so well howcome you guys don’t remember the fact that he shot 26% from the field in game 6 of the 96 finals

  • http://www.solecollector.com NDP

    My boy Shawn Kemp was better than both of them!!HaHa

  • RetroJsKing

    Mane you cant even compare that. It is different era. Basketball in da old days, everybody was good on da floor. now, its only two or three great players on da floor. you can t even compare that. Like lastnight, the refs throw da game in the 4th qr. No refs aint do that when Jordan was playing. MJ will forever be da greatest basketball player of all time just baskeball games wasnt sat up then. Kobe is good but he will never be better then Jordan

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    One game does not define any players body of work. Kobe didn’t have a great game 7 like MJ didn’t have a great game 6 in 96. All I say to that is “so *&*^ing what” Both great players and picking out specific games to somehow be a tell tale sign that they aren’t/weren’t so great just does’t make sense.

  • David

    @Arek, Thank you so much for that comment. Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time, but had horrible performances in big time games. People have built him up to be a deity forgetting that there were plenty of times Michael Jordan appeared more than mortal.

  • Vince5

    Son knows best.

  • http://slamonline.com Paul

    So many idiot children in here re writing history. Someone actually wrote that Kobe has a better jumpshot than Mike! I mean you have to be no older than 20 to believe that. Mike superior to Kobe in every single facet of the game bar possibly 3 point shooting.

  • Afro

    That is the most ridiculous comparison ever. Michael Jordan is basketball. Kobe is a basketball player. Players like Kobe will come and go.. there will never be someone as great at Michael Jordan. There are already players in the NBA RIGHT NOW that are better then Kobe, LeBron for one, i think even DWade is better. So how in hell is someone going to start a comparison with the legend when he’s not even the best in the league at his height of his career? Right now LeBron James is the best player in the NBA and he is the best player that has come post the Jordan era.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Michael Jordan is a basketball. Kobe would destroy MJ’s kids one on three.

  • bill breedley

    michael jordan is lucky there was no youtube yet during his days. his crappy finals games would likewise be exposed. marcus’ image of his old man would be shattered watching the games against the jazz where he basically stank it up til the end.

    so kobe shot poorly… he still never gave up and kept plugging away and getting rebounds. if bynum continues to develop and phil sticks around kobe will surpass marcus’ old man in 2 years.

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    Some of you obviously didn’t watch games. Too busy watching youtube highlights on MJ and thinking he never made mistakes. And yes, I said it. Kobe has had a better jumpshot for a longer time than MJ. MJ developed his fadeaway jumpshot far earlier than MJ. MJ had a great mid-range GAME at a young age because everyone was fearful of him blowing by you and banging it on the whole team, so they would sag off him. As his career went on, his J got better. Towards the end of his career his fadeaway J was on some other level and his stop and pop J was just stupid. Kobe’s been had that J…which looks a lot in form like MJ’s…who I’m sure he is probably emulating. I’m not saying Kobe better than MJ…but what MJ’s son is saying…that he can’t be compared…(like Mark Jackson would said) now, come on son!? You can do better than that.

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    “MJ developed his fadeaway jumpshot far earlier than MJ” Meant to say Kobe…earlier than MJ. Obviously.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    JTaylor21, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I’ve ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

  • Lawrence

    don’t act as if MJ is like the GOD of basketball…MJ is overrated!!!yes, he was the greatest player during his time..but as of the present time, there will be a player who will break all MJ’s basketball records….
    i guess another reason why everyone seems to worship MJ like a basketball GOD probably for the reason that he was the first basketball player who had indorsements like nike, hanes and other stuffs adding to his superstar fame!just an idea fellas…i’m not a hater, MJ is the best but don’t get into the “GOD” thing..hehe

  • bill breedley

    fact is Michael Jordan is not god. he is just another great player. great players can shoot like crap and still win championships

    Utah 1996 finals game 6: 15-35. game 5: 9-26, game 4:12-27, game 1: 13-29. Game 7

    Utah 1995 finals : Game 3: 9-22. Game 4: 11-27, Game 6: 15-35

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    Afro makes an interesting point. People are already saying that DWade and LeBron are the best in the L even though they haven’t done sh1t in their careers compared to Kobe…much less Jordan. When Jordan was in the league, I don’t think there was anyone in the conversation. Sure, there were fronters like Grant Hill and Harold Miner who the press would hype but it wasn’t a real argument to be had with the old-timers. Skill-wise, I think the league is much deeper and I would imagine overall much younger. Kobe plays in an arguably more talented league but MJ dominated before the rules changes made it a guard’s league. The Kobe vs MJ argument is not as simple as some of ya’ll want to make it seem.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Lawrence @Johnny Unfortunately, history is written by the victors, and yes the lack of a full video record helps MJ (except for that putrid 3 point contest display – check youtube for that), but maybe someday we’ll have to tell the young uns, no, Kobe did not hit every game winner, but he was still the best against the rest.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Lawrence @Johnny Unfortunately, history is written in favor of the victors, and yes, the lack of a full video record helps MJ (except for that putrid 3 point contest display – check youtube for that one), but maybe someday we’ll have to tell the young uns, no, Kobe did not hit every game winner, but he was still the best against the rest.

  • http://slam nk

    mj is 6/6 in the finals and was the best player on the bulls since day 1. kobe wasnt the best player on the lakers till shaqs last year in los angeles.
    also its debatable that magic johnson or kareem were better lakers then kobe. kobe is really good right now and he may have 5 rings but its debatable if he is the best player in the league right now? lebron hasnt won yet but is a better all around player and same with kevin durant. that being sad if mike is cocola classic than kobe is a viable diet coke. not as sweet(mike had a better persona) and less calories (less rings and individual achievements).

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    Jackie Moon: first of all, I just gotta say…everybody love everybody. haha. second, I just saw that 3 pt contest against Craig Hodges on youtube and Jordan made my point. His J was suspect. I think he has more championship rings than shots made in that one. HAHA. Turrible. But Mike got clutch man…over the years when defenders stepped back to clog up the drive his short range stop and pop was deadly. And so…CLUTCH. I loved being a Knick fan then… except when we faced the Bulls. And I always used to say, without Pippen (often guarding the best opposing player and a way more willing passer than Jordan) MJ wouldn’t have achieved as much team success. MJ had Pippen and Kobe has Fisher. Neither has won a ring without the other, right? Now, who’s better? Pippen or Fisher? Let’s not get that started.

  • http://slam nk

    mj>kobe

  • Nino

    Wow, that grammar was ugly. And MJ’s son ain’t doing sh*t out here but tweeting. If there’s one person that will never be compared to MJ, it’s his own son. God damn shame.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    mj>=kobe

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    billbreedley doing his research. good stuff. that’s REAL talk right there. But like Kobe did last night with the free throws and rebounds and defense, MJ found a way to win. Be it a dagger in the clutch or a timely pass or a steal or a block. Dude came through. And please, don’t bring up the 2 lost years of MJ. Nobody wanted him to play baseball other than himself. Stop talking about what could have been. Talk about what is.

  • Jay Cutler

    lol at all the kobe nuthuggers coming out of the woodworks to defend their man against something a teenager wrote in a twitter comment. more ons. you won the championship and this page is where your man love leads you?

  • Benighted

    This comment is for: RetroJsKing –

    You said:

    “the refs throw da game in the 4th qr. No refs aint do that when Jordan was playing. MJ will forever be da greatest basketball player of all time just baskeball games wasnt sat up then. Kobe is good but he will never be better then Jordan”

    This is such an ignorant statement that it is hilarious. Did you forget about Jordan’s push-off on the last shot of the 1998 Finals. This was his greatest moment and it was an obvious offensive foul that was not called. So don’t bring the refs into this because Jordan was favored by them more than any other player by far.

  • hangtime Hec

    Co sign Nupe. The level of retardation this website has escalated to after the championship is disheartening. I am ashamed of you Jackie Moon, you were one of my favorite commenters to.

  • Joe

    LOL @ all the Kobe haters coming out of the woodworks to chime in with something a teenage wrote in a Twitter comment.

  • http://twitter.com/pdxgaybball dma

    MJ had a lot of haters when he was playing, too. Not on the level of Kobe haters since he plays for the Lakers, but there was definite hate for MJ. Casual fans re-fell in love with him when he became a Wizard, and he lost a lot of respect obviously. One thing is for sure, Kobe will go out on top and wouldn’t play for a struggling team.

  • hangtime Hec

    And not just Jackie Moon.

  • http://k Mike

    Jordan was so much better it isn’t even funny. Sure, Jordan may have shot a bad % in the last game vs the Blazers/ Sonics, but his AVERAGE FG% in the regular season, playoffs, and finals was much, much higher. You have to look at trends and averages, not single games. Jordan averaged 44ppg in the finals in 1993 while shooting 50% – Kobe has never come close to that, and never will. Kobe has never shot over 46% for a season, and Jordan shot 54% for an entire season TWICE (while averaging 32pts one time and 35pts another). Kobe isn’t worse because he had a bad game last night specifically; he’s worse because he has bad games FAR more often than Jordan did, and it isn’t even close. It seems that the people that are defending Kobe are saying, “Sure he played a terrible game in game 7 last night, but Jordan had terrible games in the finals too and no one remembers that – they just remember the rings.” Well this part of your argument may be true, but it is misguided and has nothing to do with proving that Kobe is on Jordan’s level. The proof is in the averages, and which player had a much larger amount of good/great games and much fewer bad/terrible games in big situations and throughout his career. And Jordan is that player. He may have had bad games once in a blue moon in big games, but Kobe has bad games ALL THE TIME. In fact, most games he had in the first round and in this years’ finals were awful (shooting 30% in one game and 25% in the one last night).

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    “he was still the best against the rest” True, true. Its not fair to compare players of different eras even though its freaking fun to argue. Cuz even tho the game hasn’t changed (outside of some rules changes) the league has changed. And if there were no MJ for Kobe to study and emulate, maybe he wouldn’t be as good as he is so soon in his career. To me, Kobe is a great student man. He’s taken serious criticism from everyone, including the ZenMaster Phil Jackson but he keeps coming…keeps proving people wrong and keeps getting better. Little by little. LeBron is gonna have a tough time catching up to Kobe and MJ with Durant and DWade in the league…after Kobe retires. LOL

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    I heard that Lebron’s kid tweeted the same thing. @hangtime sorry to disappoint you.

  • T-Money

    first of all, people being anal about grammar on twitter are stupid. cmon. / i think allenp was dead on about what can be so frustrating in watching kobe operate: the amount of horrific shots he puts up. not just volume but quality. when he spun away from a double team on the baseline and hit the sid of the backboard, i wanted to throw things at the tv. and i was rooting for kg (and de facto, boston). 14 years in, the inability for someone of his talent and knowledge of the game to identify what is a good shot is odd. that’s neither here or there, though. he’s no mj and that’s that, really. not a failure at all, it just.. is.

  • http://freeones.com jbn74sb

    It’s good to see that MJ taught his kids the value of a good education. Learn to spell, moron.

  • LD

    Oh, MJ’s son mad cuz Kobe stylin’ on him.

  • Str8in It Out

    its not about grammar man, its spelling. “Com par” does not even come close to compare. It had me confused for a little while trying to figure it out. When I read “Com” it sounded like .com and par is a word that doesn’t sound like pair. Compare is not an effing SAT word now come on. And about the quality of the shots, I agree. But Kobe is expected to shoot and his teammates almost always go straight for the offensive rebounds. And you can’t argue with the offensive rebounds last night. They practically won the Lakers the game. So while everybody not named Kobe should look for better quality shots or look to pass, the Lakers seem to be used to the number of Kobe’s shot attempts and look to rebound. How about that possession late in the game? Kobe made a move into the paint and after pump faking a shot he dumped a pass off to Bynum who was on his way to crash the boards. Kobe’s pass was a good one but Bynum wasn’t looking for it bc he was too busy looking to rebound. It wasn’t anybody’s fault, just a lost opportunity.

  • capostat

    It annoys me when ppl declare that MJ would have never let his team lose this or that game; go however many games in a series, etc. As if one player is suddenly elected by the team to play the game against the other team’s representative. You can NEVER compare team success/individual leadership if you can’t begin with comparable teams, and only have comparable players. And this is an issue when people talk about Kobe’s leadership on the post-dynasty Lakers….Wow, MJ never had to play a game 7…What a silencing argument. Because the Jazz had absolutely no chance to win game 6, before Malone was stripped. The silliness.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com CHRIS

    KOBE WAS HORRIBLE LAST NIGHT HOW CAN U BE COMPARED TO THE GREATEST EVER WHEN U PERFORM LIKE THAT IN A GAME 7 FOR THE CHIP???

  • black mamba

    who actually makes comments or twitter posts like??? Really? About your own dad? we know you’ve grown up pretty spoiled but c’mon now. A little class is expected. I’ve never commented on a slam post before but this was too ridiculous not to say something.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I met Marcus Jordan once. He’s a good kid but not one you might call “humble”. So this don’t surprise me at all. My own personal Marcus Jordan story – after Whitney Young won the HS state title, my baby brother asked to take a picture with him and dude just laughed and walked off. Not even a “sorry, lil’ homie, I can’t” or anything. On the flip side, Jereme Richmond on the losing side not only posed for pics but sat and chilled with us for a while, even encouraged my baby bro to keep working hard in school and in basketball. Anyone remember when Marcus tweeted “Eff Bruce Weber” after his brother Jeffrey left U of Illinois? And then went on to say he hopes UCF plays U of I next year? LOL I hope so too so Jereme can straight smash on that fool!

  • bill breedley

    what is pathetic is SLAM MJ/Lebron nuthuggers making a big deal and actually posting little marcus’ tweet. its pathetic. little marcus would not even make a jv lineup if he wasn’t the son of mj.

    the jazz, sonics or even the suns were nothing close to being the defensive beasts that the celts have been since the formation of the big 3.
    would love to see the celts stick together for one more run and meet the lakers for a 3rd time. that would be epic!!!

  • Justin

    I agree 100%. After reading other people’s posts on this site I noticed people refering to Kobe as being one ring away from MJ but don’t forget, Kobe wasn’t the man for those first three..yea he was a key factor, BUT Jordan was the undisputed leader and best player on the their team, and in the league for that matter. Also people refering to Kobes bad game saying Jordan had bad games too. While this is true, I don’t recall many in NBA finals..Lets not forget Jordan did score 41pts and 10 assists for an entire finals series against the Suns. Also Another big factor is that Jordan played in the best time for basketball..Just because they have a similar style of play doesn’t mean their even close to being on the same playing field. And I grew up in the era of Kobe, not Jordan..and its still JORDAN ALL DAY!

  • bill breedley

    all caps CHRIS. go back a few posts and see how MJ actually laid a couple of crappers as well in the finals way back before you were born son. mj shot and missed a lot even during the epic game 6 “final game”

  • E$

    Kobe can’t even sell shoes on Jordan level

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  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Kobe Bryant is the closest we’ve seen to Jordan’s ability, since Jordan himself.
    However, Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time. BUT, no matter where Jordan is ranked, Kobe is right behind him.

  • John

    Why is Jordan’s son hating on Kobe now right when Kobe just won the title. Just let him celebrate. He’s just hating right now because Kobe’s on the spotlight. He’s twittering on emotions. So soft, say it to Kobe’s face

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/64902/4259/euroleague-all-decade-selection-theodoros-papaloukas?lang=en&itemid=64902&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU PAPALOUKAS (click on my name)

    Jordan whooo???
    It’s IVERSON you fools !!!!! (and then Lebronze..)

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/64902/4259/euroleague-all-decade-selection-theodoros-papaloukas?lang=en&itemid=64902&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU PAPALOUKAS (click on my name)

    On a serious note, Jordn’s son is 100% correct. I don’t think he said that Kobe ain’t one of the greatests, he just said that he cannot be considered THE greatest after performing this way for a second time in such a game. Grow up and get over this childish mentality “first is first, second is nothing”. Kobe is somewhere between 5 to 10 and that’s TRULY,TRULY great acomplishment.-

  • Rhodeeski

    Kobe had Shaq, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Fisher, GoodBynum. MJ had Pippen, crazy ass Rodman, Luc Longley, Will Purdue, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, haha!

  • Str8in It Out

    good try but Kobe didn’t “jag” the game up. He had a poor 1st half. But his team did come up with a lot of the offensive rebounds of his misses. Even if a shot is missed, if you wait for your rebounders to get into position, its not always a bad shot FOR THE TEAM. And since the Lakers got so many offensive rebounds…and it was one of their strengths…and everyone but Kobe and Artest were scared to shoot in the first half…and they ultimately grinded it out and won the game…you can’t call Kobe’s night “jagged” up. Especially seeing as how some people have already shown MJ to have had similar games in the playoffs and still won. As long as you lead your team to victory…blah blah blah

  • John

    Rhodeeski, r u dumb, Jordan had a great team as well, don’t even boost that Jordan completely carried that team. Pippen could do everything and could guard every position. He guarded the best players on the other team and let Jordan handle the offense. Rodman is a multiple rebounding champion and NBA all-defense. Kerr was one of the best shooting point guards.

  • B-More Mike

    Kobe might be better than the 1st Mike but he damn sure better than the 2nd!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

    MJ: “Say, whatcha lookin at on your computer there, son?” Marcus: “Oh this? This is called Twitter. You write little insights, then they’re published to the world.” MJ: “Interesting. I need you to dictate a twitter for me.” Marcus: “You mean a ‘tweet.’”
    MJ: “Come again?” Marcus: “It’s not a ‘twitter’ dad. It’s called a tweet.” MJ: “Son. Im’a tell you like I told Horace Grant everyday at practice…shut the f*** up.” (via @omidfarhang)

  • B-More Mike

    You can’t compare a damn soul 2 the 1st mike, not 1. That was mike that provided countless highlights that no one comes close 2. Come fly with me was made before the chips!!! But that’s the 1st mike, the second mike though if you still say you can’t compare the 2 you’re crazy.

  • Bryce Fryar

    If you want to truly get a feel for where Kobe is at compared to Jordan’s legacy, read this article. I will add this though. The one factor people ALWAYS leave out is the level of actual competition. With all the accolades, awards and championships that Jordan won, he did it against all-time greats and hall of famers IN THEIR PRIMES for the most part. Where are the hall of famers and great teams today?? Hmmm?? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/408237-bryant-vs-jordan-theres-still-no-debate-jordan-is-king

  • Justin

    Jordan could take over a game any time he wanted. If someone said he couldnt do something, he proved them wrong. While he was dropping 30 pts a game for his career, he also was all defensive team. He was a genuis as far as knowing the game itself. He respected the game and its history. Kobe only cares about his own stats and himself. Kobe couldnt even dunk over some people in the lane in game 7. I watched him get rejected and “fouled”. Jordan would have come down the court next time and made sure he dunked over whoever. Jordan was faster,stronger, and smarter. He had more drive and more heart. Kobe is a great player, but I would put Scottie Pippen above Kobe in ANY list. And since Scottie was MJ #2, where does that leave Kobe? Kobe aint even the best LAKER ever, let alone the greatest PLAYER ever.

  • Rhodeeski

    John, stop crying, I was just comparing the supporting cast. Rodman and Artest are similar except for Ron’s offense. Steve Kerr can damn well shoot the lights out but what else can he do? Fisher can do way more than Kerr. Odom was once compared to Pippen, and you can’t even compare the centers for maybe except Bill Cartwright. Damn dude, all I did was name people. Sensitive boy!

  • Stillballin

    Your dad is my hero.. Kobe will never get to mj’s level..NEVER!!

  • Yann Blavec

    Looking for the next Jordan is an Oedipus complex.

  • The Philosopher

    Co – sign Yann Blavec, BIG TIME!!

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out @Yugoslavia and Serbia.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Dude is probably just tired of people comparing himself to his dad, so he’s trying to redirect the attention.

  • kite

    AAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHH…you idiots, tell me one guy who ever won anything on his own? You’re delusional, it has never ever happened. So many of you guys have no respect for this sport, you go way to far in your hate for Kobe. Kobe is one of the best things to happen to the NBA and most of you are way to ignorant to realise it. What a crying shame.

  • David

    Kobe is technically the best in the NBA right now, but he’s NO Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is FAR AND AWAY the greatest of all time….easily. And yes, he is GOD. Larry Bird once said, “Jordan is GOD in basketball shoes!” Has everyone seen the kind of ‘and one’ shots Jordan is capable of making? Driving, elevating, going inside, under and over. It’s jaw dropping.

    Forget the finals stats for now. Regular season, Kobe has 2 scoring titles. Jordan HAS TEN….and that’s with him ‘retiring’ after his 3rd straight championship! He easily could’ve had more scoring titles(breaking Chamberlain’s record of 7 straight) and championships if he didn’t retire the first time to play baseball.

    Playoffs, Jordan still holds the all time playoff scoring record of 63 points in a game, doing it by himself against Larry Bird’s unstoppable 1986 Celtic team! Jordan has 5 MVP’s, which again he could’ve had more if he didn’t retire the first time. And also, he was ‘denied’ the MVP twice, once by Barkley in 1993 because the Suns had the best record in the league and another time by Karl Malone for similar reasons. The MVP is supposed to be given to the best player in the league regardless of team, NOT to the best player on the team that has the best record in the league.

    Kobe has ONLY ONE MVP award so far.
    Jordan was MVP, scoring champ, AND defensive player of the year in 87-88, something unheard of by a 6’6″ guard or by anyone for that matter. Did you read that?? MVP, scoring champ, and defensive player all in ONE YEAR. Usually, these awards are given to 3 SEPARATE players in a season! (This year, Lebron–MVP, Durant–scoring champ, Howard–defensive player of year)

    Finals, Jordan led the Bulls to 6 championships winning Finals MVP everytime. Kobe got the first 3 rings because Shaq was in his prime. Kobe didn’t win his first finals MVP until last season. Jordan averaged FORTY-ONE points(is he human?) in the 1993 NBA finals, still a record today. Jordan also scored 35 points IN A HALF of an NBA finals game in 1992, still a record which NO ONE has even come close to.

    It’s important to note that Jordan did all of this at time when there were so many awesome players(Hakeem, Isiah, Bird, Magic, Ewing, Robinson, King, Wilkins, Drexler, Barkley, Malone, etc…….)

    There’s no way Wilt was better than Jordan. Wilt was a great player no doubt, but you also need to see the competition he was playing against. Wilt was so big back then that not many at that time could stand up to him, except for Russell and Reed. If you put Jordan up in a game against a bunch of guys like John Stockton, he too could average 50 points a game and 100 points in ONE game like Wilt did.

    So again, Kobe is the best right now, even though I think D-Wade could give Kobe a serious run for his money if Wade had teammates like Kobe did. Lebron is amazing but overrated and has yet to develop a true ‘clutch’ mentality during crunch time. But Jordan is on a whole other level. As Magic Johnson said, “There’s Michael Jordan and then there’s everyone else.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    MJ’s Son: Yeah and wtf have you done? With all those genetics and abilities you were born with you should be a star in the NBA right now, you are a waste of talent

  • Buschfire

    MJ GOAT!

  • Quis

    You’re right Michael Jordan’s Son:

    Kobe didn’t shoot 5-19 against Seattle in the Finals.

    Kobe didn’t shoot 6-19 against Seattle in the Finals, being guarded by a 6’3 Gary Payton. I don’t think anyone would confuse the ’96 Sonics being anywhere near close to Boston ’08 or ’10 as a defensive unit.

    Kobe didn’t shoot 15-35 against Utah TWICE in the Finals.

    Why does no one remember this? Jordan also relied on the Bulls’ bench in ’92 against Portland. If not for Paxson, Pippen, and Kerr, Jordan too would not have enjoyed his success in the same way that Kobe needed Fisher, Pau, and Artest.

    Oh, and MJ averaged 7 shots more per game in the post-season than Kobe, especially in the Finals. Why does no one admit this? But Kobe is called a “gunner” and MJ is not. They both win.

    And please allow my comment. Why the first one got censored I don’t know. Is it blasphemy to criticize the great Jordan?

  • B-More Mike

    Quis- no more need be said.

  • TKDaMan75

    Once and for all… MJ is the G.O.A.T.! Period!!! Kobe is just a great scorer… The King was ALWAYS a great player!! Forget titles! 6 finals MVP’s… 10 scoring titles… 4 league MVP’s… 2-time back-to-back slam dunk champion… NBA steals leader… NBA defensive player of the year… 6-0 in the Finals! 6 and frickin’ 0!!!!… and doing it all IN EACH under 7 games while wearing the top selling basketball shoe of ALL TIME that bears HIS name… Another thing… reason why EVERYONE hates Kobe is because he is so doggone ARROGANT!!!!!! First thing he says after being asked, “What makes this title that much sweeter?”, he comes out of his anus and says, “Because I got more than Shaq!” Kobe doesn’t love the game, he loves himself! He will forever be known as a whining, selfish, arrogant PRICK!!!! LA really doesn’t love him at all! They love Magic! When any fan thinks of The Los Angeles Lakers, one name comes up… Magic Johnson, NOT Kobe Bryant! Their beloved Kobe… whom not too long ago was about to leave LA because he knew he couldn’t win!!! I didn’t like him when he came into the league and I DON’T LIKE HIM NOW!!!!!! Tell him The KING MJ said wassup…

  • Kid Dynamite

    LOL! be cool everyone, the kid is just mad cause he’s only known as “MJ’s son”. 2 different players in different situations-if Patrick Ewing was brought to the Bulls when MJ was starting out maybe we would be telling a different story right here, if shaq wasnt brought to LA who knows? MJ is the G.O.A.T and Kobe is ice cold, but after 5-10 years there maybe a new guy with that title or maybe not. Sit back and enjoy the show and in other news I propose a Nike Kobe V and Jordan V shoe pack (man,lebron would be pissed!!)

  • PlanetAsia14

    Kobe’s on his way, he’s closing the gap. Enough said.

  • http://none good series

    Listen I never seen MJ loose control of a game like Kobe did last night. MJ may have had a bad shooting game but he didn’t turn the ball over constantly especially at a crucial point. Also MJ is an extremely humble guy and I can gaurantee he has no problem with people comparing Kobe to him. MJ played incredible defense the whole game which Kobe lacks and that is why I put Jordan above Kobe. Its not that Kobe can’t play defense but he saves his energy for the offense. Even Tex winters blogged about it and he was both their coach’s. I think its fair to put Kobe in the same comments because they both play the same position. Kobe is incredible and could pass Jordan but Jordan beats him in every stat except a few personal feats.

  • Rhodeeski

    It’s obvious nobody can win by themselves. It’s just that some people have better supporting casts than others.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Thank you Quis.
    Also, Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT.

  • logues

    i hate this comparison cuz ppl actually think kobe is better or as good as mj. its obvious that their games are very similar so the comparison makes sense, but to say kobe is better than mj is just f’ing dumb. ppl tend to forget about how good players were in the past, and its easier to focus on the present. honestly, ppl seriously think lebron is top five or best player of all time! nobody dominated like mj did, kobe lost in 2 finals, one when he had shaq the most dominant player in the game at the time. they should have never lost

  • http://joelongweichen@gmail.com Joel O’s

    Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if MJ didn’t have a say in this. Remember the ultra-competitiveness / insecurity he showed during his HOF speech? This reeks of it. Kobe will never be MJ, that’s obvious to everyone, but it shouldn’t need to come from MJ himself.

  • bill breedley

    its awesome how the kids forget how jordan sucked in the utah and sonics series where a lot of times pip and the crew carried him. of course in the end of games, just like kobe, he did what was needed to squeeze out a win. just like lakers dvds, the mj dvds will not show the bad games but the highlights. so kids dont think mj never missed a shot or had a turnover. get real. fact is kobe is 1 away from catching mj and 2 away from surpassing him. hard for the mj worshippers to swallow. guess its the same way a lot of magic fans felt when mj was on his way to his second 3 peat.

  • The Philosopher

    ^^interesting^^

  • The Philosopher

    my bad… interesting 9:01p.m. comment

  • bill breedley

    people tend to forget MJ went 6-for-19 and 5-for-19 in 2 of Chicago’s Finals games against Seattle. Seattle?!?!? MJ never faced a finals opponent as tough as the Big 3 Celtics. his alltime finals stats were against the Suns in 1993. that team had MVP Barkley and 0 defenders.

  • beyjee

    MJ will always be the greatest because he preceded Kobe, no one can top what has been done before.

    but both are at par skill-wise, allbeit with different strengths, MJ was never as dynamic as Kobe, he relied more on his supreme leaping ability and an enourmous pair of hands early on in his career and later developed his crazy post and mid range game, he also went around screens a lot. Kobe was more dynamic on the ball, his dribbling is top class unlike Jordan, his mid range was already there early on unlike MJ, and his range on the jumpshot as well as his quick release is superior than MJ.

    It can also also be noted that MJ didn’t come out of High School, he inherited a low level team coming out of North Carolina and pretty much had free reign. Kobe’s growth was far more dificult. I always wondered how a young HS ballhog like Jordan would survive on a team with a dominant Shaq in his prime and how a college Junior of Kobe’s quality, dynamic offensive skills and dribbling ability would fair on the 80′s Bulls roster. and for all the praise on Jordan not having a dominant player beside him like Kobe, Chicago won 55 plus games the year Jordan retired and Pippen almost won the MVP. so shaq and pippen may have much more impact on both players’ careers than they may want to admit.

    Truth be told, if they battled one-on-one during their primes, it would be hard to pick a clear winner. both had supreme post games, both were killers. MJ was stronger physically, but Kobe is more skillful with the ball, with a longer range and quicker release.

    Greatness, Jordan hands down, skill, hard to tell.

    here’s how hard it is, if i were to pick between kobe and michael for my team on a single game, or for a single play, it will all depend on the match-ups.

  • C-Lo_The_Great

    i am really amazed at some of the things being said here you all should look at that link that some1 posted how many rings kobe have? and mj?

  • ronnell

    i am bias my favorite player all time is kobe i say it is fair to compare him to mj people do not have a problem comparing LeBron to mj and he has no rings. Something i want you guys to think about mj was 34 when he won his 5 ring kobe is 31. if kobe gets two more rings he will the best all time. He won as a skilled 21 year old and now as 31 savy veteran, do not give that shaq what is he doing now nothing but being trade bait. thank you very much.

  • nastierthanu

    @afro. Who’s better in the game right now. Please don’t say lebron. Kobe been stood up by lebron at the last 2 proms. @Tmoney 14 yrs and kobe can’t identify a bad shot!!! Please just stop the hate. Everyone let’s not forget that there are 3 hall of fame caliber players starting on this boston team and the emotional and vocal leader on the squad was a defensive player of the year. Kobe didn’t select bad shot he was forced into bad shots. @bruce fryar “where are all the hof’ers? Tim duncan he’s not that good. Steve nash. Ooh he’s not that good. Dwayne wade yeah he’s not that good. Lebron james. Of he’s not that good. The big 3 on the celts. They sux. What r u talking about??? Anytime I see the statement “kobe will never be better than jordan. I know that’s hate. 24 still has good yrs left. If the lake show can keep phil and resign quality personnel the opportunity for ring 6 will be sitting in his lap. How can anyone say that he’ll never be better than mj. No-one can read the future. We don’t know what the next 5 yrs will bring. Say what u want but 24 is in the conversation

  • bill breedley

    Mj player against a less athletic league where there were way too many white dudes. Kobe playing Craig ehlo and we wouldve probably seen him go 81 in the playoffs. Mj was lucky he played magic and bird on the downswing of their careers. He would have never beaten a younger and healthier Lakeshow or original big 3 team. Beating old lakers team, flawed blazers and defenseless suns didn’t impress me. He struggled against the jazz even which had way too many unathletic whitefolk.

  • bill breedley

    Mj played against a less athletic league where there were way too many white dudes. Kobe playing Craig ehlo and we wouldve probably seen him go 81 in the playoffs. Mj was lucky he played magic and bird on the downswing of their careers. He would have never beaten a younger and healthier Lakeshow or original big 3 team. Beating old lakers team, flawed blazers and defenseless suns didn’t impress me. He struggled against the jazz even which had way too many unathletic whitefolk.

  • http://www.jpjp.com jpex

    ppl hate on kobe for no reason.. records are meant to be broken kobe has won two straight without shack and stayed with his team through the time he had no team the ppl playing with him are still a very young ball club. jordan had a team to back him. kobe lead a team of young ball players plus ppl pay more attention to kobes personal life and not his performance on court kobe haters how his ass taste?

  • Balherett3

    All this conversation says is what sepperates real good nba players from great ones. Lebron only lacks a killer instinct(and a few rings now) to be in the conversation. Aside from a few players near or at Lebrons’ tier(EX.D.Wade).Then u have the players that piss you off cause their ridicously talented but never put the work in(ex.Vince Carter)

  • Justin

    Wow, a fair bit of revisionist history and other things forgotten altogether. First, MJ’s bad shooting in the Finals vs. Seattle in Game 6 could easily be attributed to that game being on Father’s Day. Jordan was in tears after the game, sprawled on the floor first of the court and then the locker room because of the significance of the day. Obviously he was not 100% there mentally and who could blame him? As for the Game 6 vs. the Jazz, he was the only option to score really and he was also 36 years old, had played the most minutes of his career, was against a very good defensive team, and Scottie Pippen was pretty much incapacitated with a back injury. Outside of Toni Kukoc, who was going to pick up the scoring slack? There is also WAY too much emphasis on number of rings when talking about someone’s greatness. Fisher now has as many rings as Magic. Is he in the conversation as far as great Lakers go? Is Robert Horry a better forward because he has more rings than Charles Barkley and Karl Malone? Of course not. We’re talking about overall, individual games here and the comparisons are not even close. With all of the accolades MJ has achieved, not to mention what he’s done on an international scale for the game and the comparisons should stop right there. And bill breedly, you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about either. Those “old Lakers” were the same ages as these Celtics. KG is youngish but his body isn’t because of how long he’s been playing. Flawed Blazers? What the hell does that mean? Defenseless Suns that only had the best record in the league. Are you saying you were more impressed by those Nets and 76ers teams the Lakers beat during their first 3peat? hahaha if you are.

  • monique

    I understand the MJ’s son loves his father. That’s wonderful, but what’s wrong with fans making a comparison between Kobe and Michael. Some of you MJ fans act as if MJ was some type of basketball god that no one will EVER be able to touch. Records are meant to be broken and Kobe is the closet NBA player to even come close. I’ve learned that most of the Kobe haters are MJ fans that refuse to let go. Whether you like it or not Kobe is the best player right now…HANDS DOWN. Don’t be a hater. Give Kobe his due.

  • http://www.foxsports.com Frodo

    I’m gonne be the first to say it (i think, couldnt be bothered to read all comments). KOBE IS BETTER! There I said it. And of course they should be compared, in fact lets directly compare all aspects of their games, each rated out of 10. Shooting: Kobe 9, Jordan 8. Handles: Kobe 9 Jordan 7, Passing: Kobe 8, Jordan 8, Defense: Kobe 9, Jordan 9, Athelticism: Kobe 8 Jordan 10, Killer instinct: Kobe 9 Jordan 9. Kobe is better, period

  • mtobi

    sO TRUE. bUT, kOBE IS THE CLOSEST THING TO mj THAT HAS POPPED OUT SINCE. yOU CAN’T STOP COMPARISONS. sTILL mj IS UNBEATABLE :)

  • Tarre

    I agree, Kobe is not in the same class as MJ. Why? … MJ had class. He isn’t arrogant like Kobe. Kobe makes his own nickname “black mamba,” like he is the best. If Donald Sterling can actually change (not!), but if he could, the Staples Center would be LeBron’s home, and Kobe would want to retire. Kobe was very fortunate that the role players played very well in the last few minutes of game 7, otherwise, we wouldn’t be having this conversation regarding Kobe being mentioned in the same breath as MJ.

  • OneStep

    Those of you who are too young to have seen Jordan’s career take note. When MJ played there was a sense in every game that somehow, someway he would find a way to win the game and when he didn’t, it was a shock. With Kobe, you get the sense that he will try to find a way and give it everything he has but it still might not be enough. Statistics don’t really work here: it’s more about that unerring gut-feel that MJ would get it done and Kobe might. MJ is the Batman but Kobe’s a mighty fine Robin.

  • http://www.threadsandkicks.com.au Eduardo

    I like both but don’t see how the media and analyst can compare Kobe to Jordan. Yes Kobe is one of the greatest but MJ still reigns supreme in my eyes as a player, icon, and more even more so statistically. Yes Kobe has an 81 point game, but bare in mind today’s game is less physical even though they say it’s physical it doesn’t compare to the days of when Jordan played. Prime example, Tony Parker almost led the league in FG% at one stage??? Another 4 players almost averaged over 30 points a game in the regular season 4-5 years ago.

    Kobe can score relentlessly in bunches, could probably score equally as Jordan but compare a Jordan shot to a Kobe shot. Jordan, fake turn around with the guy still standing. Kobe, 4 pump fakes turn around with 2-3 guys in his face but still lands the shot. There’s a lot more effort behind Kobe’s baskets than Jordan needed.

    Kobe pulls out some amazing shots but when you take 20 of those tough jumpers a few of them are bound to go in.

    Kobe’s an amazing player one of the greatest to ever play but MJ still outshines…

    Kobe’s still got to win a defensive player of the year award too.

  • http://slamonline.com tina

    @Tarre it’s okay to hate Kobe (alot of people do) but to say Jordan wasn’t arrogant please. That’s like saying Sheed isn’t a tech machine.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I’d also argue the Celtics teams Kobe lost to in 2008 and defeated in 2010 were better than any of the clubs Jordan defeated in the Finals. I was the biggest Jordan fan and now is the biggest Kobe fan. People forget Scottie took over plenty of times to guard the best player on those teams so MJ could take 35 shots a game to get 30 points. Kobe worked hard to get were he is at. He went to a Lakers team that many people thoughth Eddie Jones was better than him. Someone made a point that imagine a ballhog high school MJ playing in NBA with Shaq those fist seven years. I bet MJ would have ask to be traded or did the exact same thing as KObe, win rings play hard get better. Kobe story to NBA great is better than MJ’s to me. Kobe didn’t get a team, he had to fight to get the team. MJ walked in and was Bulls best player. Imagine Kobe going to Hornets and get to do whatever, whenever. Kobe career avearge would be about 30 a game too. Kobe to me worked harder and have had more haters against him in his career. Phil at one time, Laker teammates-Shaq, media, court system, Colorado against him, news anchors, MJ lovers, other NBA players like Ray allen and many more. Kobe got through all that and now consider top 5 by some and top 10 by some. I think he will be top 5 when its all said and done. Maybe higher. Remember MJ had major problems with no one and soically he sucked, Repbulians wear sneakers too. I bet MJ would not even say he will vote for Obama in his day. MJ is not god, he had plenty of bad games and bad shots. I watched him and the refs did benefit him on alot of calls, because he went free throw line alot to get 30 point averages. Kobe and MJ are equal in talent. but Kobe needs one more ring to tie and a seven would be icing on the cake. BOOK IT!!!

  • bill breedley

    People love to forget that David stern eventually didn’t allow mj to get breathed on. If Kobe got the same calls David gave mj, lebron and dwade now, his average would have been higher as well as his %age. For those who think Kobe is an a$$…well he is, but so was Jordan. Mj was just a better actor. They are both douches but who cares as they we’re awesome players. That should be all that matters.

    Justin. You obviosly didn’t see the bulls lakers finals. The team mj eventually player were poor shadows of the great lakeshow. Barkley’s suns were over achievers who had no business being in the finals. Dude those suns barely got out of the first round. Well you probably were not around then. The blazers had no offense. They were actually making plays for ducworth and guys like kersey never had it. Don’t even comparing those teams to the Indiana team bird led. One thing mj never did was face a tough team like the new big 3 celtics. Jordan was never challenged by any decent defense except that of the badboys pistons.

  • topo

    damn!, MJ’s sons are goofy lookin

  • Weed

    MJ had better jump shot than Kobe and Kobe had a better 3 point shot. In other aspects they are prety equal, except for dunking which MJ did better. They all had bad nigths when nothing would go in. I don’t understand you people! Trying to compare them. Idiotic!!!
    Some of you said that KB is the closest thing to MJ. I agree with that. The reason why they are consider great players is that they could shot 30-40 shots per game and no one would care. LBJ shot 30 shots in just 1 game this season and in playoffs he never shot more than 25 shots. That’s one of the reason why they are considered better than others. And one more thing MJ played with hand-checking rule, why Kobe didn’t.

  • http://Akolenovic23@yahoo.com Akolenovic

    Why does everyone forget that Jordan played against team’s that were good in the 80′s and 90′s Who is kobe playing against besides lebron and Wade nobody else. Jordan played against magic,bird,wilkens,Hakeem Olajuwon,Ewing,shaq,Isiah Thomas, and more great players the 80′s and 90′s was basketball Jordan is the greatest that played the game if he never retired he could had 8 championships people forgot about that. Kobe is a wannabe Jordan who cares he scored 81 points who he scored against noone that’s known please stop referring Kobe or lebron James to Jordan. Jordan is a king and a legend everyone knows once Jordan retired twice basketball ratings drop dramatically and when he stepped in the court people tooned in to watch him play not Kobe don’t get m wrong Kobe good but not Jordan good. Jordan played against great defenses back then so people stop talking trash and remember Jordan was unbeatable he is the great Mr. Air Jordan

  • logues

    bill is a redneck hillbilly for sure

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    For anybody who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan, please refer to David’s post, June 18th, 6:32 P.M. Read all that, then realize you are arguing about something thats not even debateable.

  • Daegosmoove

    Kobe is no better than D-Wade or LBJ, he just happens to hv wnt to a better team thn either of the two. Kobe is a great regular season Clutch shooter, but his post season performance is nowhere near MJ’s. We’ve seen Wade take over an entire series and make spectacular Jordanesque like shots and avg almost 40ppg whn they won the title, but I hv yet to see Mr Mamba put on a show in the finals that wld make me consider him to be anywhere close 2 tha GOAT!! Pau Gasol is the player tht keeps the Lakers winning titles. That was honestly the MVP of the series, but due to Kobe’s popularity Gasol got robbed once again!!

  • http://Akolenovic23@yahoo.com Akolenovic

    The promise I just read June 18 6:32 man what he wrote is the freaking truth word by word. Jordan was and is te greatest that ever played hands down. Kobe good but not Air Jordan good come on his retired 8 years ago and he gonna be the face of 2011 NBA 2k11 who else can pull that off

  • The Defender

    Oh c’mon. The people who keep bringing up MJ’s ‘human’ finals games need to check the box scores themselves.
    Yes he missed 20 shots in game 6 ’98 vs Utah, but he still shot an efficient 15-35 for 45 points and the game winner, hardly 6-24 material!
    In game 6 ’96 vs Seattle he had 22/9/7 on 5-19, and it wasn’t a do or die game 7 elimination, which would be an entirely different matter if they lost.
    And my favorite for some really ignorant posters – in game 6 ’92 vs Portland he had a super efficient 33/4/4 (13-24 fgs), and huge clutch plays.
    And just to preempt other morons, in his game 7 ’98 vs Indiana he had 28/9/8 (9-25 fgs), again, much better than 6-24.
    Check your facts people.

  • Carl Monroy

    Jordan never had a player like Durant guardin him? WHAT? he had the best defense guarding him everyday in practice, Durant ain’t got nothin on Pippen defensively. Thats what made both of them so damm good, they battled eachother everyday in practice. I’d like to see Kobe go against the bad boyz from the late 80′s & early 90′s, Jordan was literally pounded on by the Pistons & Knicks. Now a dayz if you foul Kobe that hard, your done for the game & possibly the next. Kobe up there with MJ…. PLEASE!!!!!! Shaq carried him & the Lakers from 2000-02 Shaq was a force by himself, one of the greatest centers to ever lace em up. Kobe was spoiled having Shaq to throw the ball for an automatic 2 pts everytime… and they didnt play zone back then, imagine if they had back then, who knows what Jordan woulda did. They played strait up man-to-man defense, Jordan may have missed 20 in his final game as a BULL. But 6-24 from Kobe… horrible!!! Gasol was the MVP of that series

  • debs

    its very funny because kobe haters only see the mistakes of kobe
    and only see the best of MJ. im not saying Kobe is better than MJ,
    but their skills are not far from each other,,

    this is MJ stats on game 6 of the NBA finals 1996

    MJ = pts: 22 fg: 5/19 rebounds: 9 assist: 7 to: 5

    this is Kobe stats on game 7 of the NBA finals 2010

    Kobe = pts: 23 fg: 6/24 rebounds : 15 assist: 2 to: 4

  • Andrew

    Anyone who even compares Kobe to MJ obviously didnt watch Jordan’s career. Even Kobe admits it…hes a great to but geez…people have short memories these days i guess…

  • Kobe-gay

    Kobe lol he want to be better than jordan?? jordan number is 23 kobe change his hersey number to 24 in the usa team jordan wear # 9 kobe wear # 10 did kobe really think his better than MJ??? Kobe will never ever be better like the best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be “MJ”

    ps…

    Give me 2-4 season Derrick Rose will Bring the championship back to chicago… and for me kobe can’t make back 2 back championship without Phil Jackson… Phil Jackson make kobe to get a back 2 back championship..and the the true…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Michael

    That is pretty big statement from MJ’s son:Don’t get me wrong Kobe is one of the best in the league…. Just no where near my dad…good game right here tho”

    In my opinion their skills is not far from each other, they are both great player and leader.

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