Wednesday, July 21st, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  166 responses

Magic Johnson’s Turn to Criticize LeBron’s Decision

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Not sure if you’ve noticed, but this summer is officially dedicated to the bashing of LeBron James. Everyone is joining in on the fun, with NBA legends jumping in with both feet.

Magic Johnson echoed Michael Jordan’s critique of LeBron’s defection to Miami, saying he would’ve never even thought of teaming up with his greatest rival(s) during his career. Because, well, that simply wasn’t done in his day.

Bloomberg has the quotes:

Basketball hall of famer Magic Johnson said he never would have joined with Larry Bird to win a championship the way LeBron James is teaming with Dwyane Wade.

“We didn’t think about it cause that’s not what we were about,” said Johnson. “From college, I was trying to figure out how to beat Larry Bird.”

“It was never a question in our mind because nobody has ever done that,” he said.

The criticism and finger-wagging will eventually die down for LeBron James, especially once the Miami Heat start to pile up the wins. For the time being, though, it’s open season.

James can take comfort in the probability that, about 15 years from now, he’ll be sitting on his perch atop the NBA’s Mount Olympus, imperiously shaking his head at these damn kids’ decisions.

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  • JTaylor21

    @Bryan, how is going to MIA the easy way out. Don’t they still have to play the games on the floor against teams that will be gunning for them every night. Nobody said that KG was taking the easy way out when he went to BOS or Shaq to LA. The heat still have to go out there and play hard every game for them to win anything. Basketball is not easy no matter how great the team is.

  • LD

    Here’s something Magic, Jordan, or LeBron wouldn’t do. Kick the 3-time finals MVP off your team and still win 2 rings. Long live the Black Mamba!

  • JTaylor21

    I will bet all my guap that the truth is really the PHILOSOPHER.

  • iqwest

    *I don’t think LeBron James should be faulted for thinking outside the box. He, unlike many in the NBA and in life, is the master of his destiny. He chose the team he wanted to work for in a pursuit of a championship instead of being the guy who gripes about being traded or complaining about not having the talent around him to win. Most basketball organizations are corporations that hire the best talent.

    In the real working world, the best talent has the option to choose the place to invest their efforts in. LeBron is seizing his opportunity in the NBA world.

    Also in the modern era when people lose their jobs all the time, the only loyalties people have are to friends, family and country. It is a different way of thinking for Lebron, Bosh and Wad from a young Magic or Jordan, who realized as adults that the NBA is a business.

    Like in a pickup game, most want to run with the team with the best chance of winning. Nothing is guaranteed and Miami may not win anything, but it’s LeBron’s best chance at becoming a champion.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    JTaylor, you take arguably the #1 player in the NBA, face of the CLE franchise, and leader in just about every statistical category there, then you take Chris Bosh, face of TOR, the anti-Vince Carter, and leader of just about every statistical catergory north of the border, and combine that with Dwyane Wade, Mr. Everything, in Miami. How is THAT not taking the easy way out? Yes basketball isn’t easy and games still have to be played, but if they win, it’s because they were supposed to based in those 3.

  • Dee. S

    Magic, Bird and Jordan didn’t have to team up to win back in the day b/c the GM’s made sure they had the pieces around them to win. GM Mitch got the pieces around Kobe to make L.A winners again. Danny Ainge did it in Boston in 2008. Pat Riely is getting his GM on and putting the peices together for D.Wade. Having said that, they still have to play the game and the championship will not be handed to the Heat, they’ll have to play for it. Out of the new big 3, only Wade one a championship. The new budding rivals were supposed to be Wade vs. James or James vs. Anthony but these players are getting caught up in wanting to win right now! (thanks Kobe) Maybe, just maybe Bron is not built to have an entire franchise on his shoulders. He still managed to make one trip to the finals and he’s lead his team to the best record in back to back years. He was close to getting back there. Bosh and Wade was nowhere close to getting back to the Finals until now.

  • the pump

    Lets stop talking bout greatness for a guy who only won two mvps, cause if thats the case steve nash should also be talked in this convo. Also scottie pippen is the greatest sidekick in basketball history, but by no means was he the d wade to jordans leborn. case in point where was the bulls when jordan left, what was portland like when he came to town. Dont get me wrong no way jordan has six rings with out scottie’s hall of fame talent, but jordan is jordan for a reason. when he had his bad 20 or so games in the season (just an exaggerating), yes, scottie along with paxton, kerr and grant mad having a off day easy. just like all these dope heads who say shaq won three rings dolo. Yes, shaq was the best player on that team (Hell, he was the most dominant player in the league for almost a decade), but noway with out kobe being just as talented, and d fish, robert horry, rick fox, he doesnt get one, thats the same reason he won one in MIA and kobe now with the new look lakers. The fact is stats get broken all the time, so the only thing to set you apart from the other all-stars is championship, so the heat can win the next six but because your not the man on your own squad surrounded by good talent, those stats will suffer. Not only that but the one who shoots the rock with three seconds left at the end of the game will be considered the greatest.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Myles Brown

    As Rose enters his third season in the NBA, he seems less disappointed than emboldened by James and Bosh heading to Miami to join Dwyane Wade. ‘Why wouldn’t I want to be [the face of the franchise]?’ Rose asked. ‘That’s the point of playing the game. That’s the greatest thing right now. I came to a team where they didn’t make the playoffs, not for a couple of years. No one was really interested in the Bulls like that in Chicago, not like [it was during the Jordan era]. And I’m making it back [to being] exciting. I’m from Chicago, [and] it would mean a lot if I would just bring back one championship there, or even get past the first round. The city would go crazy. So for me to even bring that team back to like the old days, it would mean so much to this city.’”

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Myles Brown

    Im just sayin…

  • Biffmaximus

    MAGIC WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER MJ HE AINT DID IT BY HIMSELF HE HAD WORTHY AND THEM

  • http://bandewzballer john cortez

    what was the lebron nuthuggers/kobe haters main of biatch towards kobe? he couldnt win w/out shaq and those 3 rings dont count.blahblahlbah.the same must be said towards lebron once he gets his ring.

  • Will-T

    Put it this way. lebron still a kid who wants hang out with his friends and have jokes, Bosh is just a follower i mean look at his face this the whole time looking like the nerd that finally got down with the cool crowd and wade is the MAN for taking advantage and becoming the BEST recruiter the game will ever see!!! at the end of the day wade got his wish and is still the center piece and making it clear (just watch the three in recent interviews) wow i applaud him for this!!!. I can imaging wade’s pitch to bron – “bron come on, nice weather, chilling with boys and sleeping with high class women when ever you want, have you seen Miami woman? ill set you up with some right now just to show you how these MIA chicks do, plus we have a great chance to win a ring, we would be unstoppable together, you’ve been in Cleveland for 7 years now and its time to take to that next step put some rings on yo finger man come on think about this bro its nuts, we could history here” Then Pat Riley comes in with a few words and it was a done deal.

    And as a true fan of this game, the reason many would be tick off with brons move, is that you have here a player who has the opportunity to be the greatest but yet he heads out to be a second option at such a young age.i dont think this is really about him leaving Cavs. its the legacy we wont get a chance to see, crush right down. sad but hey its his life he has the right to do what he wants.

  • Exile

    THIS is the way the game evolves.

    Now every team must find a way to beat the Heat. As a Raps fan, I was pro Heat until Bron… Now they are the villain. Hopefully great to watch, but Bosh and Wade (a good teaming) are now tainted by playing buddy to the King instead of rising to challenge him.

    Jordan and Magic getting bashed for being ambassadors for the game and looking out for it is not fair. They speak of their time and although the “slights” are there and very real… they are the same slights that most fans agree with. We largely wanted the rivalry to develop that some suggest wasn’t there… We wanted their to be strong nemisis storylines between Wade, Kobe and LBJ.

    In the end though, the only ones who mattered… Were not interested in that arc and went for the Juggernaut approach.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Word to Myles Brown…and Derrick Rose…and Chicago. Home to all three of us.

  • http://thacorner.net/forums Kevin

    If Destiny’s Child doesn’t win a championship soon in Miami all hell will break loose

  • cp3fan

    Forget LeBron. The King of Stats. The current king of winnng lives in LA. Long live Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Kevin Durant, and Brandon Jennings. Those are the guys I want to see. I don’t really have a lot of interest in watching the Heat unless they’re playing the Lakers now that it’s a bit of an all-star team.

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    Some of the greatest players of all-time have voiced opinions about LeBron and pretty much respondeb by saying that ‘they would have never done it’ or ‘it was different back then’. I’m not sure this is bashing LeBron nor why some people now are bashing MJ and Magic. Both of these guys were great competitors with insight to how the league was back then and that’s how they answered the question. Barkely who never won a ring and was traded also ‘bashed’ LeBron so it does not appear that this argument that Magic and MJ shouldn’t comment because they were on stacked teams makes any sense. Bottom line IMO, MJ/Magic only spoke the truth about thier era and never said anything about rivalires either. What they said is they wanted to beat the best players out there, not join forces with them. All these comments about LeBron and Wade not being rivals have nothing to do with what Magic and MJ said. The way I see their comments is that LeBron is one of the best, Wade is one of the best and instead of trying to beat each other as competitors, they are joining forces. Magic didn’t say anything about any rivalry, just that he wanted to beat the other top player (Larry) in the league.

  • O

    Nah Kevin, real talk, Miami won’t care if they don’t win a title. It isn’t a basketball or baseball town. They’re a football town. That’s what makes LBJ’s decision that much more disappointing. At least New York, Chicago and Cleveland appreciate their sports teams (especially basketball). But like my man, a true G, Ron Artest said, it’s too much pressure for the kid. Even Danilo Gallinari embraces that pressure more than LBJ. That’s saying something.

  • peter

    Anyone saying Jordan was drafted onto a good team ready to win must have been born in the 90′s. And saying he wanted Rodman on the team like he was a superstar is equally ridiculous. Rodman was a malcontent, constantly in trouble with the league, suicidal even (read his book), who famously kept things under control for the bulls to win. Kind of like Artest but more of a loose cannon.

  • YpsiRicktheDragon

    These dudes are killing me. Magic played with Kareem Abdul Jabbar, James Worthy (Big Game James, #1 overall pick in 1981 ), and Defensive Player of the year Michael Cooper (coop was defensive poy 1987).

    And how did the Lakers get the #1 pick in 79 the were in the conference semi’s that year

    How did the Lakers get the #1 pick in 1982 (they won the Championship)

    and How did the Lakers have 3 #1 picks on one team. That a Big 3 in there prime

  • The Philosopher

    To The Masses:
    Times are in fact, different. Things have changed so dramatically over the course of years and decades. One cannot blame the greats for their collective thesis.
    But, one has to understand and keep in mind is that today the AAU has a greater influence on basketball and its players from the bottom to the top.
    This is why many, many players are friends, buddies, what have you, from childhood. Not saying that this is the case with James, Bosh, and Wade, but… Dwight Howard, Josh Smith… The list goes on and on.
    In The Legends’ days, those variables weren’t as prominent.
    Just my opinion.

  • Saku 39

    @dfrance. I agree, good point. This move pretty much puts him out of the running as GOAT. It might put him behind Wade in the end, too.

  • The Philosopher

    Plus, many of the players today are form the same state, city, town, country, all of that.
    Anyways,
    JTaylor21:
    I don’t do that. And if I did, I would use a different screen name.
    No disrespect to The Truth, though.

  • cp3fan

    I’m glad Derrick didn’t beg LeBron to come to Chicago. He doesn’t need him. Neither did Dwyane in my opinion.

  • JTaylor21

    Peter, you sir is a moron. rodman is the greatest rebounder in nba history even better than wilt and russel, he may not be a superstar but he was a star. Without him to guard kemp and malone twice the bulls MIGHT have lost to both teams. dude used to guard MJ back in his pistons days. @The Philosopher, i just had to make sure, my fault.

  • BostonBaller

    I don’t believe there was any subtext to either MJ or MJ’s comments which came after being asked. They spoke their mind and in no way belittled anyone. To now try to slight some HOFers is just plain wrong and to do it to some how validate your opinion is weak. I believe Jordan went to a pretty pathetic team in Chicago and they built it through the draft and trades but that in its self is pointless. The Philosopher is correct when he addresses the masses above and to bring it back to the start, neither former great player said that what was done was wrong, just that in their day they wouldn’t have wanted to do it and that yes today is a much different day. What is the big deal over either answer?

  • John

    Great players bring other players to them, you don’t become DWade’s dog and go to Miami. You bring Dwade and Bosh to you. That “Chosen 1″ tattoo on LeBron’s back is a joke

  • O

    Damn, LBJ’s team really is b*tch made. First confiscating the dunk tape and now this. Maybe he should’ve signed with the Cavs if he was gonna be tripping over this: http://bossip.com/268492/lebrons-goons-snatch-chain-back-lady-bought-at-garage-sale-it-wi/

  • http://Twitter.com/darrellma Dma

    What if this is just an inception?

  • JTaylor21

    @Cp3fan a lakers fan talking bout some other team being a all-star team. Oh the irony. Please don’t watch the heat, leave that for those who care about watching players that play ball the right way. You can watch your all-star team with a player that shoots his team out of games only to be carried by the team but still ends up getting all the glory at the end. You think that DRose can carry the bulls to the chip by himself, ha. look at what happened to CP3, a much better player than rose will ever be, when he tried to do that.

  • Kundai

    true its a different time and as i said lebron competitive in a different way. he wants to win with his buddy’s o nan all-star team to play the all-star lakers and match them head on. In my opinion i think lebron was going to stay in cleveland until the boston lose when he realized that team measn so much. On top of that seeing kobe win game seven and not playing well, he was for sure going. I knew he was going to miami after game seven in my honest opinion. i just didnt think he would do it with bosh there.

  • Kundai

    jtaylor i agree with you the all-star lakers team dont even get credit for bailing kobe out when he shots them out of games. Pau is the lakers in my opinion his defensive presence and just the tips he puts back. The lakers dont even realize he is the reason they win not kobe.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Destiny’s Child, Ha.

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    If LeBron joined the Lakers, Celtics, or Magic, then these old heads have a point. Kobe, Dwight, and Pierce are his true rivals. Wade and Bron have never met in the playoffs. Their teams have never been in contention at the same time. While Bosh and Bron have met in the playoffs, Bosh aint on Bron’s level and neither were the Raps on the Cav’s level.

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    It’s funny that it seems like the only celeb who seems to support LeBrons decision is Lil’ Wayne. Outside of that it seems that you get negative or at best luke-warm responses like ‘well he had the right to decide’. Maybe they LeBron can get Joakim Noah to say he would have done it to or good moove, at least Noah is the only player on record saying he doesn’t like the city of Cleveland.

  • Kundai

    and bosh in a half indirect way he said he would want to play with the cavs but cleveland as a city just not tight

  • http://twitter.com/HarryByrdMan44 LA Huey

    Just to clarify, my previous comment was directed towards people with the mentality of not joining your rivals. Not necessarily towards either MJ. I believe Jordan is just stating what he would have done and not trying to slight the new school. But after Magic’s recent book, I’m always going to think that snake has something else on his mind.

  • ConeyIslander

    How can Magic even talk?! The showtime Lakers were stacked!

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    Kundai, All I remeber Bosh saying about Cleveland is that he considered going there but thought if he went to Miami with Wade, that they would have the extra salary cap room to bring in Bron or another couple top free agents making them a better team than cleveland who would not have had any extra money. I also heard him say something like he decided to go to Miami to not interfere with LeBrons decision. Honestly I don’t buy either statement and think this has been planned for a while, but besides that, I never heard him say anything about the City. Seems like a lot of people are talking really negatively about Cleveland claiming players have said they don’t want to play there, but outside of Noah I haven’t heard it. Personally I’ve traveled a lot and spent pretty significant amounts of time in many NBA cities and I prefer Cleveland than Detorit, Indi, Portland, Sac, Salt Lake and several others. Yes I’d take Chi, Mia, NYC, LA over Cleveland but I was just trying to figure out what it is (if anything) players have said about Cleveland that makes it so ‘bad’.

  • The D Train

    Myles comment from Rose is fantastic. No wonder I love that little dude. The competition-aspect…Rose is spot-on. And don’t you think that Durant (who I believe tweeted similar sentiments) is going to try to kick Miami’s a$$, too? The dynamic that will probably take place will be similar to the Jordan-era Bulls. I remember reading in The Jordan Rules that there were times when Chicago got off the bus and saw the other team and could tell they had already won. With a league devoid of evenly disbursed talent, the have-nots didn’t have a chance most nights. That’s how you win 72 games. You beat-down the downtrodden, and you take care of business against the stiff upper-competition. Most nights Miami will have a distinct advantage. Talent-wise there will only be a handful of teams that can keep up with them. The good thing is that Durant, Rose, Kobe, Pierce and Howard (to a lesser extent) all lead those teams that are on somewhat equal footing. And all those cats are crazy competitors. And teams like SA, Utah and Portland aren’t going to lay down either.

  • The D Train

    also: I’ve mentioned in previous posts…you sign all three of those dudes, and you have to take the responsibility that comes with it. And the top guys in your league wanting to kick you a$$ when they roll into town is a big part of that responsibility. Magic, Michael and those guys dealt with that that their whole careers, and they were the alpha-dogs for their teams. I cannot believe people would be shocked or pi$$ed at them for not agreeing with Lebron’s choice. Crawford noted earlier that it’s the new NBA. Codgers like us, who loved watching the Lakers-Celts and Pistons-Bulls cannot stand watching these dudes team up instead of competing. Competition is not the name of the game anymore. It’s bull$hit like “global brands” and “taking my talents” and referring to oneself in the third-person. And you know what they all have in common? Self-interests. And that is what the majority of the league is about these days. Kevin McHale constantly says on NBA TV “let’s strap ‘em up and I’ll try to kick your butt and you’ll try to kick mine.” In Lebron and Wade’s world, it’s “let’s team up and try to kick everybody’s butt so we can expand our global brands.”

  • The D Train

    I’ve mentioned in previous posts…you sign all three of those dudes, and you have to take the responsibility that comes with it. And the top guys in your league wanting to kick you a$$ when they roll into town is a big part of that responsibility. Magic, Michael and those guys dealt with that that their whole careers, and they were the alpha-dogs for their teams. I cannot believe people would be shocked or pi$$ed at them for not agreeing with Lebron’s choice. Crawford noted earlier that it’s the new NBA. Codgers like us, who loved watching the Lakers-Celts and Pistons-Bulls cannot stand watching these dudes team up instead of competing. Competition is not the name of the game anymore. It’s bull$hit like “global brands” and “taking my talents” and referring to oneself in the third-person. And you know what they all have in common? Self-interests. And that is what the majority of the league is about these days. Kevin McHale constantly says on NBA TV “let’s strap ‘em up and I’ll try to kick your butt and you’ll try to kick mine.” In Lebron and Wade’s world, it’s “let’s team up and try to kick everybody’s butt so we can expand our global brands.”

  • Robb

    I’m sick of reading everywhere MJ criticized Lebron. He gave his opinion when he was asked about it. He was answering a question, if people took the time to watch the video (which I’m posting here) you’ll see how he answered he did it in a very respectful way and in no way he joined this LBJ bashing thin. Watch and shut up already!

    http://hiphopwired.com/2010/07/19/michael-jordan-questions-lebron-james’-move-to-miami-video/

  • Josh m

    It took Jordan six years to win a ring…just sayin

  • http://theurbangriot.com The Nupe

    I am not the nupe,FIX THIS SIHT SLAM!! Im tarzan, and scoop said it best yesterday, find his story at the follower, he perfectly points out the hypocrisy of what jordan said

  • Yawn

    We live in an era where a difference in opinion is considered criticism or “hating”(Males should never use that term). Pretty sad

  • T-Money

    Myles: In the same article, Rose says that he did reach to Bosh, only texted Bron and didn’t talk to D-Wade at all (even though he’s been in Chicago all summer). That leads me to think that might be only about not having to share ballhandling duties. He’s 21, coming off his first ASG and wants to establish himself as a premier point guard on the same level as CP3, Nash and D-Will. A couple of stories mention that Bron’s team was surprised that Noah tried to reach and management tried to reach but Rose stayed out of it. Not a knock on Rose but by reaching out to Bosh and not Bron or Wade, he thought about himself and not the Bulls.

  • T-Money

    To give some more context about the D-Rose quote (and to be fair), the MJ comments were explained to him then the journalist asked him if he wanted to be the guy on his team. The journalist was kinda looking for an answer like that.

  • http://www.mauricegarland.com Maurice Garland

    how is this bashing? im pretty sure all of these guys are being asked what they think about Bron and simply speaking on it. it’ll be different if they was walking out the house, standing in the middle of the street yelling their unwarranted opinions. plus any “bashing” coming Bron’s way was brought onto himself.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Yo, T-Money… DRose spends his summers in LA. Not Chicago.

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