More from Elgin Baylor on Donald Sterling’s Racist Ways

Karma is a b*tch.

So why did he continue to work for them for so many years until he was FIRED? I think he is just as wrong not to stand up to Sterling.

Co-sign Kap:
Sterling and Baylor are clowns.

The suit alleges Sterling once said he did not like to rent to Hispanics because they “smoke, drink and just hang around the building,” and that “Black tenants smell and attract vermin.”

Kap: why does it matter? this trial is not about elgin’s integrity. the fact that he kept working for sterling doesn’t make sterling’s comment less depiscable. elgin was the least paid GM in the whole league, there may not have been another job out there for him. i guess timing matters in the court of public opinion but it doesn’t matter at all in a court of low. elgin has a case and he’s pushing it. good for him.

Elgin done got tired, now he want to get back at “massa”.
Got tired of working the field while everybody else gets to be in the “house”.
What did Elgin do, suddenly have a revelation?
Please.
He’s been around that arena too long to just get tired of it now.
Or was he in the house with “massa” then was told to go into the field? If that happened, then I can see why Elgin is hurt. I mean, he was in the house with “massa” eating good meat! Now he is not.
Yeah, he’s pissed.

cosign airs…That comment went a little too far.

Philosopher: I understand your POV 100 percent. It’s more than accurate. Unfortunately it describes the mentality of many of Sterling’s black employees. They don’t mind collecting checks from that scumbag, but they suddenly become socially aware when the checks stop coming. Baylor is just as bad as Sterling. He should have quit but he was gettin paid. No black person should have a problem with philosopher’s comment.

@Kap:
@airs:
If you know your history, (which I’m sure you do) then you know that that comment exudes validity, whether in its proper context, or not. (it is in its proper context, in my opinion)

@the Philospher ..That’s two days in a row philospher has been a little overboard with his comments, yesterday was stating “Yo, after we kill deez n*99@$, we fin da go check the Bobcats game, right? ” and asking right after the question is like you are asking black people, “Did I say it right?” Be easy fam…

Condescending, if you are speaking from the superiority definition of the word, I will actually take that as a compliment. You know how I roll up here.
Semi-racist?
Better than full fledged racist. Please excuse me, for I make those comment from what I’ve experienced of my life.
Ill informed?
I am reading a SLAM post. I will concede to that being my latest source of information regarding this topic between those two men at this present time.
And, I wholly respect your opinion. I’m in an euphoric state just from you responding to my comment. You do not even know.

@CoachWalt_W:
Meh.
What are you a professor of Ebonics, or something? Have knowledge of all terminology and quotations “black”?
For now on, if I want to know if I have said something the “black way”, I will certainly ask you if I “said it right”.
Since you are so well versed in the subject, I request that you educate me.
What is “saying it right”?
PLEASE tell me.

not racist is better than any racist. but im just saying, that comment seemed like some weird, internet Blackface thing.

I have yet to find anything racist about his comment. Sounds like someone should do a little self-reflecting. I’m always weary of people who accuse others of being racist when a person is simply discussing the blatantly racist actions/comments of another individual. He didn’t make any blanket statements about white people or Jewish people. His comment was about Sterling and Baylor.

As far as this being he said/she said, umm years of similar accusations from multiple sources in various areas of Sterling’s business life makes this a little more than he said/she said.

But I don’t think there were any underlying, “racist” tones to it.

Eboy:
I respect and appreciate that.
I will correct that in the future.

im not saying that Philo’s comment was racist, or the point that he’s trying to make is racist. but the way in which he chose make a point was distasteful and portrayed elgin baylor as a slave, which im not sure mr baylor would appreciate. i do agree that baylor totally should have spoken up much, much sooner.

Baylor was willing to put up with Sterling’s blatant racism as long as he was being paid to do it. That’s a hellava lot more distasteful than someone describing the mentality of a person who would what Baylor did. In short, who gives a shit about what Baylor would appreciate?

Philo called Baylor a “house nigg@” Since I don’t know Baylor personally, I can’t assess the veracity of this statement, but given the facts, I can see why that assumption was made.
I fully believe Donald Sterling made all the racist comments he’s accused of making since the Deparment of Justic has already proven that he likes to discriminate against minorities when renting his apartments. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me.
So, if Baylor worked all these years for a man who actively discriminates and uses racist language, it’s reasonable to question whether Baylor saw himself as the last line of defense, or if he was perfectly comfortable hanging around “massa” as long as he was fed well.
That’s the question everybody is asking. If Sterling was so bad, why did Baylor deal with it for so long, or why didn’t he say something BEFORE he got fired.
Personally, I only want Baylor to win because Sterling needs to be censured and Stern refuses to do that even though Sterling settled his case about discrimination rather than fight it at trial. He basically pleaded guilty and got no punishment from the league.
Anyway, I don’t want Baylor to get paid, but I don’t want Sterling to skate yet again.

Good, now I can run out and take care of some outside business.
Good sh1t, Allenp.

JTaylor
This is a civil trial where Baylor alleges based on his personal recollections that Sterling created a hostile work environment and was a racist.
From what we’ve seen, there are no tape recordings or racist memos and emails. There is just Baylor’s word against Sterling’s word.
Sterling’s main defense is that Baylor was fired because he was incompetent, not because he was black. And Sterling just has to point at the team’s past decisions to generate proof of that incompetence. Baylor is going to argue that Sterling has a pattern of racism, and is probably going to try to introduce the information about his settlement with the DOJ.
Whatever happens, the first question the jury or judge is going to ask is why Baylor would work for a racist boss for two decades and never file a formal complaint and only file a lawsuit after losing his job. That’s what people are going to wonder, and Baylor better have a damn good explanation. He can’t just skate with “Well, I needed the job”, because even though he was underpaid, he was still bringing home like $500,000. He could have earned money without working for this particular racist.

Hold on SLAM everything is not published here. You are leaving out the part where Elgin was asked if Sterling said anything racist to him, or paid Elgin less because of his race. Both of which Elgin replied “NO”. I do believe that Sterling is a shady guy, but SLAM you guys are leaving out important parts to this story, including what Elgin has said about how Sterling treated him personally.

AllenP, he would have earned money but not half-a-million type money. As someone stated before it wasn’t like baylor was a hot-commodity GM like West was so to say that he could have gone to another team and made the same kind of money is wrong. The clips stunk up the joint with Baylor at the head and no team would dare take a chance with a GM with that kind of record. The clips job was the best thing going for baylor finicial wise, so I could see why he stayed there for that long. Also unlike past greats Russel and Kareem, baylor doesn’t have the championship background to become a motivational speaker and his name gets lost in the shuffle whenever past greats are mentioned. He’s not known well enough outside the basketball community to command a great deal of interest and money.

@BKNY you know nothing about the lawsuit do you? Elgin is saying it is wrongful termination because Sterling is racist. If Elgin admits Sterling never made racist comments or gestures towards Elgin, than there is a hole in his case. So now that you are informed, eat crow.

Im just confused why Elgin would work for Sterling for so long after he said this. I am not going to call Elgin a liar, but i am puzzled as to why he went along with it. He obviously doesnt share Sterling’s sediment, but by continuously working with him in spite of all the terrible stuff is really making me scratch my head.