Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 at 2:30 pm  |  91 responses

Derrick Rose, MVP

Does it still sound crazy?

by Bryan Crawford / @_BryanCrawford

PrintIt’s only January and there is still lots more basketball left to be played in the ’10-’11 NBA season, but I think it’s time that we acknowledged Derrick Rose as a legitimate candidate for MVP this season.

The initial comment, masked as a question, was made by Rose on Chicago’s media day prior to the season. And if you know DRose, you knew that the words coming out of his mouth he was very serious about.

“The way I look at it, why can’t I be MVP in the league? Why can’t I be the best player in the league? I don’t see why not. I work hard; I dedicate myself to the game and sacrifice a lot of things at a young age.”

While, critics of Rose went into a collective, “This guy must be crazy!” and “Who does he think he is?” stance once his comments hit the mainstream media, SLAM devoted a feature article and a cover to his statement in spite of people methodically picking Rose apart and rattling off all the reasons why the third year PG supposedly had no chance at winning the award:

He can’t shoot. His assists are low. He can’t run a team. He’s not a true PG. He can’t create for others. He’s not a leader. He’s Allen Iverson or Steve Francis 2.0. LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Paul are all better than him.

But that was in September.

Four months later it can no longer be denied that Rose has a real shot at being named the best player in the NBA at season’s end as long as he stays healthy and the Bulls continue to play well and keep racking up the W’s.

While the MVP award in and of itself is nothing more than a popularity contest, individual and team success certainly factor into the equation and Derrick Rose is certainly experiencing both.

His field goal percentage is down slightly (49 percent last year to 46 percent this year) but his 3-point field goal shooting has increased dramatically. Last year he shot a putrid 27 percent. But this year, he’s shooting a blistering 38 percent from beyond the arc, something that admittedly, I didn’t think he could do.

He’s also distributing the ball better as well.

In his first two seasons in the NBA, Rose averaged 6 assists per game which according to many, is inexcusable for a PG. But this year he’s upped his average to 8 assists per game, due in large part to the free-agent acquisition of Carlos Boozer in the low post and Tom Thibodeau’s offensive system which opens up a lot of perimeter shooting opportunities due to an increased emphasis on ball movement and Rose’s ability to get into the paint and kick the ball out to the open man.

Rose is also averaging 1 steal per game this year after averaging less than 1 per game the last two seasons, and his rebounds are up (4.5 per game) along with his scoring (21ppg last season, to 24ppg this season) this season.

But more importantly than his individual stats, the Chicago Bulls are winning.

The team is currently sitting at 25-12 and third in the Eastern Conference which is the Bulls best standing and win-loss record through 37 games that Chicago has had since they last won a championship in 1998. Although some may attribute the team’s success to Tom Thibodeau’s defensive philosophies and the addition of Boozer, the phenomenal play of Derrick Rose is the single biggest reason for Chicago’s success.

His steadily improving game has earned him consistent praise from opposing coaches and players around the League, and even Kobe Bryant, whom Rose often cites as one of the players who motivates him, weighed in on his thoughts of Derrick as a player during LA’s annual trip to Chicago last month.

“I think the sky’s the limit for him. You see now, with the improvement he’s made on his jump shot, just last year to this year, how his game has really gone to another level. I think he’s just scratching the surface,” said Bryant who also commented on Rose’s work ethic.

“I don’t think you can develop that. I think you either have it or you don’t. I think he’s had that since high school. That separates players, I think. Players of equal ability, it’s about the engine that you have inside. It certainly gives him an edge.”

Said Thibodeau on his star point guard’s play this year, “He’s having an MVP season, but he’s an MVP guy. I think his leadership has been tremendous.”

And it was teammate Joakim Noah who may have summed up Derrick Rose and his MVP level of play this season the best.

“I think at first when he said it in the beginning of the season everybody kind of looked at him like he was crazy. But he’s somebody that has a lot of confidence in his ability and we’re playing at a pretty high level right now because of it. He’s somebody that understands that the success of this team is going to determine a lot of things for him individually. He understands that well. Ever since he got into the League he’s understood that it’s not about his stats, it’s about the success of this team that’s going to bring everything.”

Including, quite possibly, a Maurice Podloff trophy which would make him only the second Bulls player to win the NBA’s highest individual honor since you-know-who.

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  • http://www.oprah.com doyouwantmore

    What single player is more needed on his team for them to be a playoff contender? (And don’t you DARE say Kobe or Lebron, because I will throw up)

  • http://www.oprah.com doyouwantmore

    Maybe Kevin Durant.

  • barnabusb

    Yes, it still sounds crazy..

  • barnabusb

    @ doyouwantmore: Chris Paul, Amare Stoudamire, Dwight Howard, Dirk, Deron Williams, Chauncey Billups, just to name a few.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    The year when he was won 26 games the Net that had the second most total points was Johnny Newman. Evan Eschmeyer started 50 games, Lucious Harris started 51 and the best big man on the roster was Aaron Williams. The year the Suns won 36 games the starting center for most of the season was Jake Tsakalidis and the power forward spot was manned by Bo Outlaw and Tom Gugliotta. A severely diminished Googs, they then went to the playoffs and Amare missed most of December the following year and once again Marbury was the scapegoat.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Don’t get me wrong I think Rose is great, but he’s had the benefit of a good environment. It’s not lost on me that Marbury is the one who left a good spot for a worse one, but still it contributed to his development for better or worse.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Shout out to bryan for pulling those rosters. Dammit those were fugly teams. That was the nadir of nba talent in the east.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    I just had a similar conversation on twitter the other day. Not comparing Rose to Marbury but just defending Marbury. He was talented enough that people thought he should have just made those teams contenders but I’m willing to bet if Jason Kidd had walked into that Nets roster Marbury had, he’d not have had much more success.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Stephon Marbury forced his way out of Minnesota. In a lot of ways, he had it MUCH better than DRose when he came into the NBA. So if that hindered his development, then it was self-inflicted.
    Also, let’s not forget that his attitude is what led teams to get rid of him in the first place.
    I like Steph, but you can’t just paint him as a victim or the scapegoat in every situation.
    Yeah, he made a lot of money which at the time seemed to be the only thing he cared about, but HE is the reason his career didn’t pan out the way that it should’ve. You can’t blame anyone else for that.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    I agree with you 100% he did more damage to himself than anyone else did,but he was very very young and showed bad judgement. He, unlike Rose, didn’t really have an example of a 19 year old, one year college wonder point guard to follow and not make the same mistakes. It was also a very different time monetarily. That shouldn’t have gotten him blacklisted like it did. He never got a fair shake after the Minnesota situation. He got called selfish, which to a degree he was. But let’s try and put this in proper perspective, if you feel your value to your employer is equal to another, but that other guy is making DOUBLE what you make. I think you might be a little put out also. When every Marbury had success it was because he was supposed and whenever his team failed it he was the selfish scapegoat. It just wasn’t fair. You can’t pay for a mistake you made at 20 for the rest of your life.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    He should have gotten more than 3 seasons in Jersey. He should have gotten to play with a healthy full roster there. He should have been able to weather stormy times in Phoenix and he should have been able to play with legit teammates in NY. Especially considering in D’Antoni’s first season in NY one the main things the Knicks were lacking were was a guy who could create offense for himself and for teammates. He proved himself capable of sharing the ball when he had teammates worth sharing it with. He shared with KG, he shared with Amare and Marion, and even a half alive Keith Van Horn his first season in Jersey. I can’t think of a single roster outside of Minnesota that had potential for more than what they accomplished when Marbury was on the team.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Bryan: Why can you express your thoughts EXPLICITLY well when writing it all down in an article but suck at debating in the comment section?

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    I thought you were talking to me haha I was like wtf.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    In reference to what?

  • Joblo

    People in due time d rose will get respect I just laugh at all the haters now becuz some of ur arguments are just flat out ridiculous. Dont doubt him cuz he’s not playin on ur team. I think ya’ll r scared of his potential. And the marbury comparisons? Really?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    The problem was that HE felt his value was equal to that of Kevin Garnett. But he was no KG and he had a bad attitude about it which wasn’t lost on anyone.
    I think that every team that he went to gave him a fair shake and the benefit of the doubt initially but he wore out his own welcome.
    A guy that good and that talented, you just don’t get rid of like that and cut your losses. New York was basically stuck with him because if someone would’ve been willing to take him, they would’ve moved him in a heartbeat.
    Let’s keep it real, Steph was a very good basketball player, but he was a terrible teammate and an even worse employee.
    I can’t ever remember anyone saying anything good about him and no one was ever sad to see him go.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Comparing him to Marbury is not hating. Marbury was a phenomenal talent who got some bad breaks after a couple of bad choices. But their games are very similar. If the Bulls didn’t get rid of Vinny he may have developed some of the same bad habits Steph did. He was definitely heading in a different direction under Vinny than he is now.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Steph could play ball, his bad habit was his attitude.
    DRose doesn’t have that prolem.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    At the time, he was just as responsible for the Minny resurgence as KG was. I think he started out places a good teammate and then got fed up with them playing like trash, which is what happens to dudes with egos. He wanted his “co workers” to a do a better job. They never measured up. He complained about it, loudly. I do the same at my job. I’m probably an awful teammate, I’m carrying my own weight and the dead weight of others and yet receive the lions share of the blame for things going wrong, I’m going to get pretty upset. I’m not trying to make excuses for the guy, there’s no telling how good Minnesota could have been had he swallowed some ego and stayed there, but at the same time, I can understand how he felt. It’s not easy to maintain excellence when you’re the only who cares about it.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    He doesn’t have that problem because he hasn’t ever had to play for a loser and watch the team do nothing about it. Steph’s attitude was similar to Iverson’s but Iverson is celebrated for being a warrior. It wasn’t always like that though. Steph never got a team built specifically for him and tailor made to his talents. Iverson had the “I am the best first, second and third option” syndrome before anybody from the 96 class had it. His organization was just gutsy enough to take a chance on building a team for him that fit that ego. And Marbury was a much more willing passer than Iverson was(who I think was also more willing to share than people care to admit).If he ever played with good teammates who could finish his passes, who could help him win games he was a model teammate. When his team failed him, he pouted his way out of town. It’s not right at all, but there’s a lot more to it than just “he was selfish and a cancer”. He didn’t do himself any favors , but the Minnesota thing ruined his rep a lot more than your letting on. He may have been initially welcomed with open arms but at the first sign of trouble he was scapegoated, every single time.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I can’t paint Steph as the victim in any situation other than the D’Antoni thing that last year in New York.
    That was stupid.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Yeah that was ridiculous. I still think it was just easy for teams that started losing to point to Marbury and say “he has a history of this”

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Marbury screwed himself by forcing his was out of minnesota. KG was his best friend lol, and he wanted more money, pretty much the exact opposite of what LeBron did. On the court though, oh my… Derrick rose is a just fine comparison, not mirror image, but comparing the two early in their careers makes sense..as long as your not saying Marbury was better, or had more potential.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Remember Yao’s rookie year when he got switched off on steph? You know you do. Anyway shout out to Jukai for calling someone out and disappearing into the ether. Ur like the lion from the wizard of Oz

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Co-sign x1000 to nbk at 10:05

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Slam had a lot of good to say about marbury.
    but you are right he shot himself on the foot in minny. That was pure jealousy and also homesickness.
    Everywhere else he just hooped. I think he got along poorly with the media and got labeled. Some of that was him some was the media. H always hooped. He wasn’t perfect but he wasn’t the evil selfish bastard everyone says his was. With the.suns that team had fun.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    Aside from the 03 suns, steph was on some incredibly horrible teams… ………. ….. Jukai did pull a hit n run. Funny guy

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    LOL @ Jukai hit and run.
    Woulda been fun if I could’ve been on earlier to put my two cents in.

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Would like o point out Marbury doesn’t know the difference between a “dime” and an assist. But yeah Allen that year that he hit that bank 3 for phx against San Antonio was one of the most fun teams to watch in my lifetime

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    lol, funny comments section today.

  • paul

    I would have pushed for Rondo at one time, but now that Rose crushed Rondo, maybe Rose…

  • http://Slamonline.com Nbk

    Most fun Suns** teams of my lifetime

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Great article BC, right now Drose absolutely deserves it, he’s also no 1 on ESPN. He’s such an amazing player.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Jesus guys, OCCASIONALLY I do work!!

  • hoodsnake

    Who?

  • Sammy da Bull

    Too bad Amare didn’t go to the Bulls….would have been one awesome tandem!

  • rob

    any one who says d rose isnt good enough to be mvp is dumb and look at the stats he could very well be the number 1 pg stop living in the past d rose is the future and hes arrived some of you are old and hare the future it seems besides even koby approved him so yeah!

  • tmoney

    Bryan,

    Marbury does not even compare to Rose as a basketball player. A lot of players have similar talents but it’s other intangibles that separate the good from the greats. Marbury was a excellent talent but didn’t possess the other intangibles to make him great such as work ethic and teamwork.

    Rose on the other hand displayed all the intangibles while in the process making the Bulls a better team along the way. They have been in the playoffs each year he has been in the league. Rose’s teammates love playing him and follow him into battle that cannot be said for Marbury at any point in his career.

  • Ben sin

    Rose is great but he isn’t doing anything CP3, Deron, or Nash has been doing for half a decade straight now. So why do people big up Rose like he’s putting up a legendary pantheon season? Dirk’s been as good or better as Rose is now for A DECADE straight and he gets 1/4 the attention.

    Mavs this season has looked elite with dirk and lottery-like without him. He’s shooting 54% from the field. Enough said.

    Rose is a great player–a superstar. But Dirk should be heads and shoulders above him (and everyone else) in MVP talks right now.

    I think Rose is a top 3 or 4 MVP candidate but I think the whole “he is hands down MVP he’s shutting everyone up!” talk is a bit much.

  • Mart

    UNREAL: D-Rose’s monster dunk against the Blazers:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8aiA_z_vQ

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