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Saturday, January 1st, 2011 at 9:35 am  |  71 responses

LeBron James Believes he Won’t be MVP

Derrick Rose, however, thinks he could bring the MVP trophy back to Chicago.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

As we approach the halfway point in the ’10-11 season, this much is obvious: There’s no clear-cut MVP just yet. And, from the looks of it, we won’t be having a repeat winner, either. As LeBron himself recently admitted, when he joined his buddies his Miami, the probability that he’d win the coveted award in 2011 all but disintegrated.

From CBS Sports:

James has already paid a huge public relations toll since “The Decision,” but he noted on Saturday that he understands that he compromised his ability to take home hardware as well.

The Sun-Sentinel reports that James acknowledged that both he and teammate Dwyane Wade will not win the NBA MVP award this season. “When we decided to come together, our MVP chances went out the window,” James told reporters.”

For what it’s worth, he’s right, and—regardless of whether or not you feel he does or potentially could deserve it—the idea of a player with two elite teammates being voted MVP is pretty unrealistic. If nothing else, it’s good to see LBJ actually understands how the process works, given his recent PR missteps.

In similar news, it looks like LeBron isn’t the only one who’s felt the need to look around and ponder the award recently. You might remember the coverline of SLAM 143 stating simply, “Derrick Rose wants to be MVP.” Well, three months later, it looks like Derrick Rose still wants to be MVP.

Via ESPN Chicago:

“As long as we keep winning, I know I’m up there with the people that’s in the race for it. I want to be it, so why not?”

Rose racked 19 points, 9 assists and 4 rebounds in the win and was showered with chants of “MVP, MVP” late in the game.

“I love it,” he said of the chants. “Like I say, there’s no point in playing this game if you’re not trying to be the best. And this year I want to be MVP.”

As far as his teammates are concerned, Rose is as good as anyone in the league.

“I don’t see why he couldn’t [be MVP],” Bulls forward Carlos Boozer said. “He carries our team every night. He makes plays, he scores the ball, rebounds the ball. I think he might be the only guy in the league averaging over 24 [points] and eight assists or whatever. He’s special.”

And this week we learned the SLAM readers agree.

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  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Good stuff, Adam. But didn’t Magic win MVP with James Worthy and Cap at his side?

  • T-Money

    The MVP “process” is a joke. I refuse to even care about it. Kobe got it in 08 for his magnificient 06 season. Jordan got robbed of a lot of awards because they wanted others to get it. A joke.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    What this story should read is “Breaking: LeBron shows self-awareness when talking to reporters.” Subheading: “First time for everything.”

  • http://www.boogiewilliams.com Boing Dynasty

    Easy for Bron to say him AND Dwyane gave up on getting MVP after he has 2 already. I doubt Dwyane shares those feelings.

  • http://Www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I still think either LeBron or Wade can win MVP.
    And y’all already know how I feel about The Great Poohdini. That’s my dude right there. I’d say right now he’s top 5, but like Adam said there’s no clear cut favorite. And I LOVE Rose’s confidence this year.

  • connor

    amare is my mvp this year

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    If enough fans collectively chant “MVP” for a random player, he’ll likely win the award next season. Let’s try it with Jason Smith this year.

  • http://psp2423@yahoo.com Eboy

    @ T-money I agree with you that Kobe did have a monster season in 06 and he got robbed because all of what was happing with him outside of basketball overshadowed what he was doing in the court. The thing I dont get is what is a NBA MVP no more please people explain this to me.

  • JTaylor21

    There’s no way Amare’s the MVP, dude can’t even stay in front of his shadow. It’s either Dirk, CP, Wade, or Bron.

  • mattyidn

    i hope d rose can keep up his numbers and become the MVP
    otherwise im pulling for KD to have a killer second half of the season

  • mattyidn

    ***and win the MVP

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    JTaylor, and why on earth would you put Chris Paul ahead of Derrick Rose in your MVP race? I do agree on Amare though.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com just bcuz

    the criteria for MVP has become quite simple over the years. Your team has to be winning and have 1 of the best records…and you have to be putting up Great numbers! Usually thats the guy who wins it. Some years when its equal…they simple go with who has the best record.Which is why kobe didnt win it the years he was putting up alot of points but losing. This year the race is wide open…if Your fav player has his team as a Top seed with good numbers he has a chance

  • greg

    lebron should win it cuz his team will likely have the top record in the east. the top teams in the west are dallas and san antonio and no1 from those teams will win especially with what happened last time we gave dirk mvp(Gstate). thats the wins thing summed up. his numbers are still gonna b great because of his all around stat stuffing ability. i guess voters will have to look at lebron and the only knock is that wade is on his team. but i dont think thats really fair cuz shaq put up some great numbers in part because of kobe, kobe won in 08 because he got pau and they won some games. the only mvp i can think of who really had no1 who was GREAT was dirk and … lebron. its a wide open race nd it will be tough for those media guys to vote this year

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    A Spur, a Celtic and a Maverick walk into a bar….

  • Shem

    D Rose is working with a lot more then CP3 in my opinion. Noah > Okeafor, Boozer > DWest, Deng> Ariza and Brewer > Belinelli.. that’s just me but Rose is definetly up there in the MVP race

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    My knock against CP3 is that if his supporting cast is do bad, why is he only putting up 17 ppg?

  • http://www.twitter.com/jtrain73 Jono

    Such bull, LeBron is an MVP calibre player who will play MVP ball over the season, not just till December.

  • JTaylor21

    Caboose, my fault on DRose, I forgot about him for a second. Also CP has way less talent on his squad and he has single handedly led them to 20 wins. The reason for him only scoring 17ppg is due to coming back from that knee injury, so he’s not as aggresive offensively as he was during the past. Give it time though, his scoring will pick up. I rather have him as my PG than one who’s taken the second most shots in the L.

  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    DRose For MVP!!!

  • bashmo

    CP3 for MVP!!!!!!!!! I hope the Hornets keep picking up W’s…especially on the road…that’ll put Paul back in the race

  • Omnixyience

    just bcuz, you blind or something?
    or you didn’t even bother to watch the Lakers in 06. Even with the line up Kwame brown, Smush parker their winning. At least they made it in the playoffs. Nobody, I mean nobody expect them to get in the playoffs at that time but they did, they even challenged the number 1 seed Phoenix Suns. SMH!
    I say he got robbed like the Piston did to the Lakers in the ’04 Finals.

  • Incubo

    @ Greg, Dirk had a good supporting cast, Josh Howard, Jason Terry, Devin Harris, and I think Stack was on that team as well. Now AI on the other hand….

  • http://danielh-orlandomagic.blogspot.com/ D12FSU

    If the Magic can pass Boston in the standings by the end of the season, and maybe even Miami, Dwight should get serious consideration for MVP. You gotta play offense AND defense in basketball folks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Michael Whyte

    Lebron has every chance of winning it again. Not because of the hype, but because they won’t lose many more games, and he is the best player on that team. D wade has is likely to finish in the top 4 or 5 as well.

  • Jackie Moon

    Best Player on Best Team, isn’t that how they usually vote? Well then if it was voted on today, you’d have to cast your vote for Manu GINOBILI!

  • hoodsnake

    If the season ended today it would go to an injured Nowitski. There are too many players on the Spurs who carry the load on a different night although Manu is in the heat of things a lot

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    What seed were tthe 06 lal? Stfu. …….. Dirk and lebron are leading mvps now, lets see in a couple months……….. …….. .Derrick rose s genious ad campaign: ‘hey, why not me?’

  • bill breedley

    lebron is a sidekick. sidekicks dont become MVPs. bron is great in the regular season. when the real season begins, he can’t carry a team all the way on his own. hence the realization and “the decision” that his talents are to be utilized as DWade’s sidekick.

  • Krisjanis

    Derrick Rose should win it. :)

  • OvaChicken

    Amare Never ! Rose Maybe but I hope D Will gets it but How Funny would it be if Bron got it while being Dwane’s sidekick. It would really shut the haters up + I think B. Crawford would commit suicide. SIDEKICKs 4 MVP season !! It’s gonna b bannanas Yall !!!

  • http://aspov.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Right now, I’d say Manu. His health is the main reason the Spurs are back in the conversation.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    When a player of Rose’s caliber proclaims his desire to be the MVP, I believe that he is to be taken seriously.
    I believed him when he first said it.
    A couple breaks, a few injuries, as well as his team winning, (they do not have to win the Title) I think he would have a decent chance.
    He is a blessed, special talent. Hall of Fame material. He has the motor.
    And, co-sign Teddy-the-Bear on the thread’s first comment.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    Jtaylor your spot on. He’s trying to get the other guys involved, they need some scoring from elsewhere. CP is scoring 17 a game on 11 shots, in 34 minutes. He could very easily average 20 plus. Two different opposing team broadcasters have said that CP could lead the league in scoring if he wanted to. Do you guys who don’t include CP in the MVP race actually watch him play? Even if you don’t his stats speak for themselves. 1st in Steals, 1st in FT, 2nd in ass/to, 3rd in Assists, shooting 50 from the field, 90% from line, 46% from 3. Oh and he’s the league leader in PER.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    And co-sign T-money. KB24′s MVP in 08 was CP’s, the year Dirk won it Nash should of, and 1 year Nash won it Kobe should of. Personally, I feel it should be Bron if CP doesn’t get it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    You know theres something wrong with the MVP votes if someone who doesn’t play D(Steve Nash) wins back-to-back. Don’t fans get to vote for MVP? I guess not because if they did I’m not sure Steve Nash would have one MVP

  • Ricky

    ok how does d.rose have this great supporting cast carlos was out 15games now noah out for 8-10weeks and I dont know if we have a startn shooting guard and were still 22-10 d.rose MVP!!!!!

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    PPG APG RPG SPG TOG FG% FT% 3P% MPG
    CP – 16.6,9.9,4.4,3.0,2.4,50, 91, 45, 35
    DW – 22.2,9.3,3.9,1.2,3.3,47, 84, 37, 38
    DR – 24.0,8.6,4.7,1.1,3.6,45, 77, 39, 38

    CP shoots 11 times a game, Deron 15, Derrick 19.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    Yeah that didn’t work, but you can understand what I wrote.

  • http://www.ebay.com Tariq

    There is no clear-cut way to judge the MVP. That’s kind of the point, to get people to argue for different players. I don’t see why that’s a problem. It depends on the season. It could be the best player on the best team or it could be the guy with the best stats or some combination of both. Like, if a team won 75 games, I would imagine that you kinda have to give it to that team’s best player, even if some other dude has better stats. If a guy has monster stats but doesn’t make the playoffs, it’s kind of tough to give him that award. But what I find interesting is how people keep saying that Kobe didn’t deserve that 2008 MVP. Look, Kobe has been an MVP candidate every single season since about 2004. His team hasn’t always been a title contender, but he’s only missed the playoffs once. That 2008 season, the Western conference was the most contested conference maybe ever. The difference between the 1st seed and the 9th-best team out West, who missed the playoffs (Golden State) was seven or eight games. Kobe was Kobe, the (co-)best player in the world. Chris Paul was also having a phenomenal year. And I think it came down to that final showdown between the Lakers and Hornets, where first seed in the West was up for grabs. The Lakers won. Could CP3 have been MVP that year? Possibly. Did Kobe deserve it? Hell yes.

  • L

    Dirk and DRose are the two MVPS so far.L

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    Airball, I get it, you’re a CP3 fan. But look, I’ve seen Hornets games and a lot of their losses come because their offense stalls. If Paul was an MVP, he’d go out and score. Don’t give me this “he’s trying to get his teammates involved” because it’s midseason; he doesn’t need to do that anymore. The Hornets win when Paul takes over the game and his team hasnt received the necessary contributions from him. Furthermore, there is no way on earth Paul could lead the league in scoring. Could he go put up 25 ppg? Probably. Lead the league? No.

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    You also point to his 11 shots per game as a positive. I see that as a negative because his team needs scoring and if Paul is such the offensive weapon you say he is, why doesn’t he shoot more?

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    I didn’t say it was a positive, I just stated the number of Attempts for each. ‘If Paul was an MVP?’ Paul is an MVP, the team hasn’t recieved necessary contribution?! He is leading the league in PER, two points above anyone else. You obviously don’t watch the Hornets that much. If Paul took 19 shots a game like D Rose, at his current rate (11 attempts a game, 2 of which are threes) he would be averaging 26-28 PPG, without factoring the extra free throws. 28 PPG would be leading the L, factor in the FT’s thats 30 plus, definitely leading the L.
    I’m a big CP3 fan, but what irks me is when people don’t watch every guy play regularly and think they can judge a guy. I’ve seen D Rose, Deron & CP3 all 10 plus times this year. And thats for a whole game.

  • andré

    Amare can get it if the Knicks crack the Top 4 in the east. If the Spurs finish the season with the best record in the league then Ginobili. Dirk’s also got a chance. Rose? Maybe if they crack the Top 3 in the east.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Man, f*ck a PER!

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    I didn’t really explain that well, but if he gets 17 on 11 shots, he should be able to get 24-25 on 19, then the 3-4 extra FT’S on top.
    Either way, your right, i’m a big CP fan and I feel no other guard is on his level. He totally outplayed Wall last night, and outplayed D Will the last time they met up, almost getting a triple dub whilst D Will finished with 10/5.
    Just my opinion, there are a lot of great PG’s right now.

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    Enigmatic, on a side note to this, notice how IAMORANGE is absent when NY lose?
    On this note, f**k you!
    Na just kidding, personally I think PER is a great reflection of a guys play. I know your a Bulls/Rose fan, so we are never going to agree on whos the best guard lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    lol co-sign Enigmatic

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Allball- yeah that’s kind of Orange’s modus operandi. When the Knicks are “winnin’ and grinnin’” he’s all “POW!” and “Fa Fa Felton!” and being Mr. Hyperbole with gems like “Felton and Rondo are the two best PGs in the East!” but when they’re not he’s more MIA than Wade, Bosh and James. Orange, I know you still read this so don’t front, you know you’re my dude. LOL.
    And I got mad respect for CP3. I’d put him second on my list of active PGs behind DWill. I just think Rose is having a better year this year as is his team.
    And LOL @ that “f*ck you” line. Been a minute since someone just came and said that to me on here. Even though I know you were playing.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com just bcuz

    lets be real……cp3 not winning the mvp…for 1 his team wont win enough games…and for 2 its not like he putting up huge numbers! the hornets gonna be like a 5 or 6th seed and most likely get bounced 1st round

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    Yeah, just kiddin man. I see what you mean, its odd that you can win the MVP without being the best player at your position.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    And I just can’t stand the PER. All those nerdy basketball stats are lost on me. Just give me the good old fashioned ppg, rpg, apg, etc. stat line.

  • YouSuck

    JTaylor21 stfu you don’t know sh!t about basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Allball
    Did you think the results of the head to head battles between Paul and Swill were.important before this year?
    Typically Paul fans.discount the head to head battles because Swill.has usually won them so it is interesting.to see a Paul fan tout the result.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    Tariq: Chris Paul’s Hornets and Kobe’s Lakers were a game apart. The talent on the Hornet’s squad and the talent on the Laker’s squad were leagues different, Kobe was playing with a helluva better team. I’m certainly not saying Kobe didn’t deserve it in 08… I just think Paul deserved it a little more. Had Kobe won rightfully in 2006, I don’t think he’d have won in 2008.

  • http://www.oprah.com Doyouwantmore

    Not much time left for anyone to be MVP once Kevin Durant hits his peak.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kobe should be a 4 time MVP by now, its a joke award after Steve Nash won two. History books will down on this in NBA History. Some one down the line in history, fifty years from now will call this the lost years of the NBA when they see Steve Nash has two MVP’s, by Kobe, AI, Shaq, KG and plenty others have one.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    The Seed: Allen Iverson…? Good lord…

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Jukai, Stop acting like AI never played good, I can’t remember the season, but AI should have gotten another one. AI used to take a team full of scrubs far in the playoffs some years. Talking about not having any help around him.

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    The Seed: Cause he forced out all the help cause he couldn’t co-exist, and no one around him got better because he made them feel like they didn’t have to practice. MVP to me!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Jukai, you are right about one point, he did force out Stackhouse, Hughes and more, but he was a one man wrecking crew that deserved more praise during some of his highlight seasons. No one got better because the 76ers choose to put role players around him and let AI be AI, which was a great career for a while. Steve Nash MVP to ME!

  • paul

    rondo

  • http://sjfklfsl.com Jukai

    The Seed: Iverson wasn’t the most VALUABLE player because of his issues. He was, certainly at one point, the most SKILLED player, one who could carry a team by himself, take crap players to the playoffs and going 5-on-1 like it’s nothing. Valuable is a bit different.

  • Towelie

    Kevin Durant anyone?

  • http://www.twitter.com/AllBall247 AllBall247

    If your talking W/L then no, I don’t see it as that important. UTA have always had a superior Roster to NOH since they have entered the L. I mean, its not even close. Allenp.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Allen Iverson’s teams made HIM better. He did not make THEM better.
    This is true.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    This is a year where all the top teams are really winning through full team effort; Boston, San Antonio stand out in that regard. If your looking for dominant performances then coming into this year it would have been hard to pass up on BOTH Dwade and LeBron. Once they got that starting gate mess figured out they have been leading their team to ALOT of wins… 16 of their last 17 or so… Kobe has been in the mix all year but you would rather have your bad games at the start of the season rather than towards the end, and thats whats happening for Kobe. The team has stopped winning….
    Orlando – DWIGHT, New Orleans – CP3, Utah – DERON WILLIAMS, Chicago – DROSE; have all been steller from the get go, but for me. Dirk has been a clear stand out from the gate and has pushed his team to the top of the NBA for the regular season. MVP.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    One guy that has kept popping up on the radar has been none other than Paul Pierce, certainly not one of the first guys you would speak of. But the question to be asked is… WHY NOT? That can be a little harder to just write of entirely.

  • yaya

    Didn’t MJ, Magic, and Shaq win it while playing on some pretty good teams. I don’t think it’s out the window for Lebron. If he plays MVP style, then it will backfire if people just don’t vote for him cause of their personal love for Cleveland

  • http://Slamonline.com Mars

    LEBRON, AND DWADE CAN DEFINITELY SPLIT IT

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