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Tuesday, February 8th, 2011 at 9:45 am  |  73 responses

Nicolas Batum Questions Derrick Rose’s Defense

What’s with the Blazers taking shots at All-Stars this season? Batum became the latest, as he knocked DRose’s defensive ability following the Portland victory last night. From The Oregonian: “[Andre] Miller finished with a season-high 27 points, 11 assists, six rebounds and four steals, making a season-high 13-of-13 free throws. Chicago’s dynamic point guard, All-Star Derrick Rose, rightfully received most of the hype entering the game and he lived up to the billing, finishing with 36 points and six assists. But it was Miller who walked away with the victory — in part, Nicolas Batum says, because of Rose’s defense. ‘We know that Derrick Rose is a good offensive player,’ Batum said. ‘But you have to play defense, too. He can’t guard Dre. You gotta play defense. He can’t play defense, so that’s why we put Dre inside and try to attack him. He did a great job. Had 25 (points) and 11 (assists) tonight.’”

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  • Charles

    Batum, are you an all star this year? Would you be able to shut down D-Rose? WTF

  • http://www.Cruzem.com Joe King

    Even though Miller got half of his points on free throws and Rose didn’t foul out??

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    This is going to get interesting……………..
    Last night at least, Batum is correct.

  • http://www.Cruzem.com Joe King

    and I didn’t realize that Rose guarded Aldridge either.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Joe King, that is terrible logic. Miller couldn’t have beat Rose of the dribble, then been fouled by some one else?

  • Michael Knight

    Who is Nicolas Batum?

  • T-Money

    charles: batum is actually one of the best perimeter defender in the league. just sayin. i haven’t watched enough of rose this year to see if he has improved on d. he was terrible a couple years ago in the playoffs vs boston but that was then. oh, it’s not even funny how much better aldridge is at basketball than k-love right now, he got robbed.

  • Filipe

    Miller got to the line that much because he keep blewing by Rose, so yes Rose (who has improved a lot as defender this season) does deserve some blame for that. But I do think the commentary is curious given how much Aldridge abused Boozer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    How long before the Slam legion of Drose for MVP fans declare Batum a hater and find some reason to discredit him and how he has not right to say this about DRose?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Batum might be “one of the best perimeter defenders in the league”, but Rose lit his ass up every single time Batum tried to guard him. He lit up Miller too. So Batum should probably just shut the hell up talking bout someone’s defense last night.

  • HAMMER

    Batum has a point. But 2 b fair, rose has been gettin better as opposed 2 seasons past. I get it that batum isn’t an all-star, but 1 thing that batum knows is defense. And batum has been putting work and improved n each and every season he has been n the L. His opinion (key word opinion) shouldn’t b taken 2 the heart. I don’t view it as a shot, altho andre’s comment was. Batum was just being honest, and I 4 one agree 2 a certain point

  • Brandon

    Batum is hilarious, if his defense was so great ask him why didn’t he jump when Derrick when to the lame and dunk on his whole team, but I digress. If cats actually watch the game the reason Miller got all his points was refs bailing him out if Rose got anywhere near the calls he may have had 50. So, Batum scrub self just need to shut up and play some real defense because he got abused last night. Miller did play well, but I watched the whole game and Rose was switching off on Wes Matthews and Miller and check the stats on that one.

  • bashmo

    HAMMER nailed it, no pun intended.

  • 2k champ

    Batum how are you goin to talk ish when you let luol deng 40 ball you at the beginning of the season.

  • HAMMER

    @bashmo. That was a good one. Haha!

  • Cheech

    I think It was Boozer with the lack of D last night. Damn.

  • CONEY ISLANDER

    What has Nicolas Batum done to even get to have an opinion on Derrick Rose?! Sit your ass down and be quiet please. Thank you.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Once again Brandon, terrible logic. No doubt Rose lit up Miller and co, but Miller was getting fouled.
    Maybe Rose would have gotten more FT attempts if 22-23 of his 27 attempts were not jumpers. He shot a great %, just using that point to let you know why he didn’t shoot many FT’s.

  • donp_64

    Did we forget the last 2x drose embarassed miller! This is the only game where miller has really shined in 6 matchups with rose, remembr the ankle breaking he suffered where all the blazers gasped and prayed for an ambulance to get miller off the court. Doesn’t batum also have 5 plus games of allowing 40 pts to the guy he was guarding ala luol deng? Durant, bryant? Its real easy to say ur a great defender when u have aldridge, pryzbilla, camby and oden for your front line.also those fake foul calls they gve miller kept them in the game, how many did rose get? That expalins millers stats and how the gamw was won on ghost calls

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Ghost calls? WTF? Some fans are ridiculous. Miller has always been great at getting to the line. Rose didn’t get calls because he was shooting jumpers! Camby/Oden weren’t their to ‘protect’ Batum, neither saw the floor.
    Batum is a good defender, with a lot of potential.
    Rose lit him up, as he did everyone else who tried to guard him.
    It goes both ways. Miller pretty much did whatever he wanted when Rose was guarding him.

  • Fat Lever

    So is he subliminally saying that Miller shouldn’t/couldn’t get those types of numbers against a guy that can play D? I’m just saying.

  • Brandon

    Allball clearly you did not read or comprehend my response. Your Chris Paul love affair may have gotten to your head. Everytime now you clearly have something to say negative regarding Rose on every Postup. But, once again I was mostly referring to Batum response not Andre Miller. My Miller reference was to increase my argument because if you actually watch the game like I tend to watch every Bulls game there were several instances where Rose got hit and Thibs was yelling at the ref. So, by saying terrible logic try to watch the whole game or let me know if you need a copy and I can send it to you. I DVR every game since you need to try to analyze someone else’s remarks.

  • http://basketsession.net T2C.WAH

    Batum just said, on his French blog (@basketsesion.net),that the Oreganian had over-interprated his declaration…
    He’s a good kid, earlier this season he admited that he was not focused enough on his D… looking for more pts…

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Brandon, I was initially referring to you saying Miller shot too many FT’s, and Rose didn’t shoot enough.
    Miller is great at getting to the line, so that’s that. Rose was shooting a whole lot of jumpers, so thats that.
    I watched the whole game (well every minute Rose played), and because he got hit and Thibs screamed, does not mean it was a foul. Rose was rarely attacking the basket. Dwyane Wade gets hit and screams every time he drives, doesn’t mean its a foul.
    Miller did not get bailed out, he made plays. Rose made plays also, but he wasn’t going to the basket that often. That’s the reason for the FT disparity.
    I did not mean to insult you, but you were using flawed logic. You realise that of Rose’ 27 FG attempts, 22-23 of them were jumpers.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    I think the bigger problem is Boozer down low… I think it was that Blatche (missing lay-up) clip that sealed the deal for me. Haha.

  • Sizzle

    I am not sure the logic Batum is using. By his standards both he and dre are terrible defenders. I’d take Rose in his rookie year over Dre in his best year. He is just a non-explosive point guard, not fast, no outside shot. He can post and dish..That’s it…

  • http://www.nba.com/heat/ The Angel of Stern

    why are people responding to this by talking about Roses’ offence ? Batum was explaining why they used that strategy by pointing out that derrick cant guard Andre.. which worked out well obviously.. I dont think it was a shot at D rose because batum has no right to take shots at the second best point guard in the league (Chris Paul is 1). It has nothing to do with how many points Drose scored.. I really dont understand some people on this site..

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Co sign Sterns Angel.

  • Brandon

    Angel of stern is not that people are talking about Rose offense, it’s the fact that Batum is talking. Rose has never been considered a all world defender, but stats alone shows he is much better defender considerably. He has improved dramatically over his first two years. He use to be a sieve on defense period. But, under the guidance of Thibs, he has actually been a lot better this year. Its just the fact that Batum is suppose to be this great defender and Rose destroyed him in the first and they had to switch Wes Matthews on him. So basically he should not be talking and he is known to be a defender and not a offensive force that every team gameplans around unlike Rose. This is the reason why people are mentioning Rose offense.

  • Pugz

    @T-Money Youre a joke with a biased opinion. Kevin Love is undoubtedly a deserving allstar, and probably even more-so than Aldridge. Tbh, the real problem was the coaches voting in DUNCAN over LA based on his previous work and not THIS season. Look at Duncan on the roster for THIS SEASON before you take a shot at Love. oh and Batum is just crying, DRose is by far a better overall PG than Miller, defense and offense combined.

  • T-Money

    lol some d-rose fans are really sensitive. batum acknowledged that d-rose was killing on offense, so why is that even brought up now? and because batum is not an all-star he can’t comment on someone’s defense? wow.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    ‘lol some d-rose fans are really sensitive’. Couldn’t agree more.
    ‘I think he’s actually surpassed Kobe when it comes to the Army of Unreasonably Enthusiastic Supporters’

  • Brandon

    Its funny how people call D-Rose fans sensitive, when some people called the proclaim king of point guards something other than that (Chris Paul)they go into a tantrum. But, D-Rose supporters are sensitive. Lol.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    The funny thing about that is he was gaurding D rose and got 36 points dropped on his head.

  • http://www.nba.com/heat/ The Angel of Stern

    Brandon, you said “its the fact that Batum is talking“. See thats half my point.. Batum didn`t guard D.Rose well but thats pretty irrelevent to this conversation because he wasnt really taking a shot at him.(if he were than you could look at that side of it). He was answering a question with an honest answer. He even said himself that everyone knows Derrick is a good offensive player. Batum is just rightly pointing out that he is vunrable on defense and they chose to try and exploit this and it worked brilliantly. This is why I dont understand why Derricks offence is being brought into this because the quote was about why portland was able to be so successful so all Batum did was explain why their strategy worked.. I think people try to make to much of everything..

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Brandon, you reacted to me saying the the FT disparity was down to Miller attacking the basket, and Rose shooting jumpers. Then when I explained it to you, you ignored me. Now you keep mentioning Chris Paul for some reason.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    This is getting a little stupid. Rose had 36/6, therefore he doesn’t have to play at the other end? The guy Rose was predominantly matched up with had 27/11. On only 11 shots.

  • Brandon

    Angel of Stern you say he is not trying to take a shot a Derrick. He stated himself based off the quote above “He cant guard Dre,” that is a direct hit on your manhood as a baller period. This is the first time Dre has ever got off on D. Rose in the last 4 games against him. The quote shows for himself, so I disagree it was no shot everytime Rose plays against Dre, they show him getting off the ground or blocking his shot on a layup attempt. It was a direct shot unless the quote was taken out of context, but based on what I see thats it.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Y’all are funny.
    If you can’t see that the Blazers are salty about players getting hyped, then you’re not paying attention.
    If you can’t see that DRose is better on defense, then you’re not paying attention.
    If you can’t see that Andre Miller kills LOTS of point guards, then you really aren’t paying attention.
    And if you can’t see that this new culture where every player comment becomes fodder for intense debate and criticism is only fostering a world where players hate the media even more and refuse to talk to them even more, then you need to wake the hell up.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    AllenP is right.

  • Brandon

    I didn’t ignore you Allball, I actually like the banter back and forth. You do realize there were instances he drove and got hit as well and there was no call. Also, who stated he does not have to play on both ends of the floor? Let me know. The response was based off of Batum’s quote.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Allen, why are you talking like your opinions are fact?
    Andre Miller exploited D Rose on one side of the ball last night. In turn, Rose lit up who ever guarded him on Portland. Some Bulls fans are not happy that D Rose play is being questioned/criticised, which is where the argument starts.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Brandon, all I said was that the FT disparity last night only, was correct. I too enjoy the debate on here.
    Know one said he doesn’t have to play both sides, but bringing up Rose offence as a defense to his defense (if that makes sense), is irrelevant.

  • http://www.nba.com/heat/ The Angel of Stern

    Brandon, I just read it over again and I will admit that it looks like a little more of a shot than I originially thought. However, I dont think it to be as severe as you took it. The only part I see that was a shot is when he says “He can`t play defence“. That could have been left out. I expect him to say things like “he cant guard dre“, because thats his teamate and as a baller, you better have the confidence in your own team that the other team cant stop you. But I apologize for skimming over the quote a bit too quickly and missing that important part. However I still dont agree that Derricks offense should be used as an argument to offset his poor defense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Rose CAN’T play defense is not true, he’s average right now and he’s getting better, c’mon people. it’s his 3rd year in the league, he’s improving his game as well as anyone I’ve seen in the league the last ten years, first he couldn’t shoot, now his jumper is automatic, he couldn’t make 3′s, now he’s at 38%, he wasn’t dishing enough, now he’s avg over 8 ast p/g. His doing everything he can, if you have to shoulder the offensive load every night, it’s hard to give it your all on defense at all times, but he’ll get better.

  • Oh nose

    Who?

  • Shadojoker

    Didn’t DRose dunk on Batum last night?? notice how he was gonna jump..then knew he had no chance.. that ends this debate..

  • Shadojoker

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8aiA_z_vQ

    Great defense link for Batum..aka Last night

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Because, in this case, my opinions are facts.
    Andre Miller has always felt underappreciated, and now he has Lamarcus Aldridge to commiserate with.
    D Rose is better on defense, stats and the naked eye back this up.
    Andre Miller has been killing point guards for years, hell he dropped 50 just last year, and has given Rose, Westbrook and Rondo the business already this year. And he’s done it since Cleveland.
    And it’s obvious that the explosion of blogs and media outlets dedicated to chronicling athletes has made them more circumspect when speaking to reporters and more likely to resort to idiotic cliches and athlete speak.
    So, once again, my opinions are based on facts. That’s how I roll.

  • Enrique

    How many All-NBA Defensive teams has he been elected to? Didn’t think so. Look at the tapes…refs were really bad. Miller is a flopper and got burned on D. Batum can’t shoot or play D but he has the LeBron thing going…can’t shut up. By the way, We’re going to the playoffs…Batum is going back to France come playoff time!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    So Rose drop 36 on batum and Luol drop 40 on him earlier in the season and Rose defense is questionable? ok

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    AllBall shut yo hating ass up. always coming on here trying to show something bad rose did.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Once again, what does Rose offense have to do with Miller getting 27/11 on 7-11 shooting? If CERTAIN Rose fans weren’t blind to his shortcomings, this would be a non-story.

  • dahon

    im a big fan of drose, but his D is the one aspect of his game that he needs to work on. with his work ethic and his D-minded coach, he’ll work on it fast coz fast dont lie.

  • Justin

    Nash was bad at defense also…But he got two MVP’S

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Rose is far from a finished product defensively, y’all. The kid is 22.

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    you know this is really more praise than a diss. When people need to nit pick (taking one night instead of the whole season) when talking about defense, that’s really good. He can’t just say oh, he had a bad game, because he dominated on offense. He didn’t shut miller down of course, but dre was clearly feeling it too. What he really is saying it, Rose is an average defender, and if he became a lockdown defender, he would be an amazing player, and a true winner (defense still wins games). Right now he’s just a very very good player. Nothing wrong with that at all.

  • http://slamonline.com Eldon Khorshidi

    Doesn’t really make sense… Rose locked up Monta and Steph Curry a few games ago. they couldn’t score when he was on them

  • HAMMER

    Co-sign JL. Just what was needed 2 b said. “Taking 1 night instead of the whole season”. That was my point from my last post. That is why I agree w/batum. People here just butt hurt bout what his opinion was. And like I said, rose is gettin better on D. But he hasn’t improved by leaps and bounds. And in no way am I dissin rose. As sum ya’ll know, I’m a big bulls fan as well as a big blazers fan. 2 those who think batum can’t play D, u should watch more blazer games. But I don’t blame if u don’t. Stats don’t tell the whole story on what batum does on D

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    @ Eldon and D rose bust both they ass earlier in the season and nobody was making a big deal then whats yo point

  • TrailBlazing&SportingLisbon

    Batum likes to take friendly shots at people, all in good spirit, HE ALSO SAID ROSE WAS HIS MVP..witch I dont agree with but thats fine, he loves Rose´s game.

  • batumswrong

    dude, i watched the whole game. He’s kinda right saying that D Rose isnt that great of a defender, but a lot of his shots were when he was guarded by like cj watson. but derrick does have to work on his defense to truly become the best. Either way, the Bulls collectively arent playing good ball right now, so its not just Rose

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    I’d blame the loss more on Deng’s ineffectiveness and Boozer’s “defense” than on Rose.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    This gets funnier and funnier. Does Batum need to be a super accomplished player in the League to comment on a perceived weakness of another player? Everyone who comments here has never played a single second of NBA ball yet you all think you have the right to criticize anyone in the League whenever you feel like it. So of course, instead of criticizing Batum’s opinion, which may or may not be right, you criticize Batum’s achievements as a player just because he hurt your feelings about DRose. It’s just funny seeing Drose fans all upset about Batum’s comments which do have some truth to them and if nothing else that strategy worked for the Blazers for that game.

  • Oh nose

    Batum apologized on twitter and denied ever saying that Derrick had “bad D”, valiant effort hating on Derrick friends!

  • aldridge=overated

    um…u portland idiots realize that miller had 13 free throws….so that means derrick rose and co. let up 7 made shots….and batum is one of the best perimiter defenders….he wuz on rose what mayb 80% of the game…..and got shat on….then u fans are celebrating like u won the wnba championship….which means y’all were not confident in beating the buLLs, meaning they’re at the top….while ur in the basement/golf course in 2 months…then u criticize rose and then bulls…i understand if i wuznt a bulls fan i would hate the bulls also….b/c we have wat u would trade roy aldridge buffon 3 1st rounders and it still would NOT be enuff for rose….and aldridge hes nice….but 21 and 9….in the west….thats not even close to an all star….how’s ur teams record…. i dont wanna here about roy……we’ve had a full roster 9 games this year and went 7-2….and 22 year old….22 year old derrick rose will be in LA b/c he lead an injury depleted team with 9 new players….thats only 4 from last year…new coach….new schemes…o yea hes 22 i dunno if i mentioned that..and we r gonna b btween 17-20 games over 500……aldrige isnt even worthy of a nickname….even as stupid as the one you southern canadians came up wit…..whoa….initials….that wuz my 8th grade basketball nickname…..o and nick the PRICK the strategy worked what falling to the floor and getting to the line 40 times…..to the bulls 18…..and u win by 6…..40-18….ur not even a good team that deserves calls….but yea keep that strategy up and im sure we’ll c u in the finals……again WNBA finals….idiot

  • aldridge=overated

    batum didnt take a shot…..every quote clearly said “he can’t Play defense” (not defence)….if thats not a shot….i dunno wat is….and it wuz written by the portland media….i mean i know you guys cant spell offense and defense….but can u read ” HE CAN’T PLAY DEFENSE”…..and if thats not what he said why bother letting the country know over and over and over….why …..he shot his mouth off at an ALL STAR…something y’all wont experience 4 a while….cuz i hate 2 break it 2 u…..roy’s issue coming outta college….any guesses…..his knees…and if they were shot then damn…..now ur gonna rush him back….2 words mark em down….hate 2 say it cuz i always liked roy….MICHAEL REDD….

  • http://slamonline.com nate

    first off how is d.rose labeled a bad defender ? Every one saying his defense was horrible coming to the league but I also remember him leading the memphis tigers defense he locked down every guard in the ncaa tourney such as D.J. Augustin , kalin lucas , westbrook / collins but he was a poor defender coming in ? Now your saying his first 2 years in the league he was a horrible defender . I don’t remember many point guards having big games on him beside rondo in the play -offs so how was he a borrible defender ? Just cuz he doesn’t gamble on every got dam play like westbrook and cp3 but there good defender ? This is crazy I have nothing else to say

  • http://slamonline.com nate

    O yea I forgot to add this if derrick rose is a ” BAD ” defender his rookie year then that means john wall in an HORRIBLE defender . So far he’s been lite up by almost every pg he’s played . Lol off topic I know but I had to add that

  • drilla

    what point guard is a great defender? none/some cheat more to get steals, but other then that no one can stay in front of anyone. When the GP was a great defender they aloud handcheckn and a lot of body, you can’t do that anymore so, to Rose’s defense, he actually plays better defense then a lot of pg. And most of the time its the screen and roll that he and his teammates have trouble gurading. Drose is leading all pg in blocks shots,

  • Steve

    We are critizing Batum because his comments were idiotic. DRose’s defense is above-average for a starting PG, and compliments a 20/10 offensive average (why he will end up top 3 in MVP voting).

    Batum scores 12 points a game, he is incosistent, and not one of the best perimeter defenders as mentioned (no one outside of Portland believes that one).

  • J-Moe

    Next game D-Rose holds the 3RD best pg Deron Williams to 11pts then Chris Paul the 2ND bst pg behind in the league to 13pts on 3-10 shooting who can’t play defense miller had a good night D Rose usually embarrasses him member his rookie year the crossover in philly cmon u portland fans r goin to far he had a good night

  • Basketball is LIFE

    Y’all got point. Batum have his right to express his opinion. DRose is a good player and improving on defense. DRE is a post up guard, who is clever enough to use his low post skills and strength, and thats what d-rose needs to work on: defending low post… Aldridge got robbed off by not making the all-star, however its still ROY whos the leader of the pack… aint hatin’.peace out

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