Friday, February 11th, 2011 at 1:03 pm  |  86 responses

Pip Talk

SLAM catches up with Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

As far as legacies go, Scottie Pippen’s is in an elite class. A member of all six Chicago Bulls championship squads, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame in August 2010, and plans are underway for a statue of Pip to be built outside of the United Center. Aside from working for the Bulls as an ambassador, he’s also been promoting Isotonix, a formula that provides relief from temporary inflammation associated with the normal aging process and daily activity. SLAM caught up with the former small forward to talk hoops, what he’s been up to, how he got involved with Isotonix, and why the ’95-96 team’s regular season win record won’t be broken any time soon.

SLAM: So I know you’ve been busy working with the Bullstell me about what you’ve been doing for them.

Scottie Pippen: Basically just being the face here with the organization, working as an ambassador, doing stuff with marketing, public relations, community service, things of that nature.

SLAM: They’re building a statue of you outside the United Center. How’d you react when you heard that was happening?

SP: I was pretty excited. The president [of the organization] told me, and I was excited. That was something that kind of caught me off guard, something I wasn’t expecting.

SLAM: This season you’ve literally had a front-row seat in watching Derrick Rose develop into a full-fledged superstar. Did you expect this would happen?

SP: Well I think we all expected it, I don’t think it’s coming as a shock. Anytime you draft a player No. 1 you’re hoping that you’re getting the best talent out there, and Derrick has lived up to be that and far beyond.

SLAM: The Lakers were having some struggles for a while, and rumors started to circulate about them making a move. Do you think that’s something they should try to do?

SP: I think it’s a matter of them trying to sort it out. I think they’ve got all the right pieces there—they are the defending champs and they made some moves to improve their team—but some other teams out there have gotten better as well. It’s something that I can’t really elaborate on, because [I am] on the outside looking in.

SLAM: Who do you think was a tougher group for Phil Jackson to handleyou guys are these Lakers?

SP: Well, we were easy, I can say that. Even with Dennis [Rodman].

SLAM: You think it’s a lot more difficult for him to deal with his current group?

SP: Well I’m sure it’s a little different for him. Phil’s not getting any younger; it’s been 20 years, or closing in on 15, 20 years. He’s not a young man now, and he probably can’t tolerate the same thing [nowadays].

SLAM: You came out on the winning end of that “Will the Heat win 72 games?” discussion. How’d you know it’d be so tough for them to win so many games?

SP: I just felt it was an insult to every team that’s played in this League to think that one team can be put together, and now all of a sudden we got—excuse my word—a jackass like Jeff Van Gundy saying they can win 72 games and break the Bulls’ record. Who is he? So that was just something that he totally took out of proportion, to some degree—with respect to those two players, or I would say two and a half players, since I don’t think Chris Bosh is half the player of LeBron James. But there’s no way those guys are gonna break any type of record. I don’t think they can break the franchise record in Miami, or the state of Florida, I should say.

SLAM: Do you think they could next year or the following year, after they learn to play together and fill out the roster with some new players?

SP: There’s a lot of other teams out there right now that look a lot better than the Miami Heat, and I would much rather be elaborating on them breaking the record than Miami, because they’re nowhere near it. They haven’t even won the most games in the state of Florida, as I said. That record is far out of their reach—they need to break the Miami Heat franchise win record, than we can start to, at least, sit down and talk.

SLAM: I think a majority of the current generation of players probably grew up watching you guys. Do you ever see any of your game in the new crop?

SP: I know that with each generation, [like when] I came into the League, there was a generation of players that I watched that I was inspired to [replicate] their style, and sort of raise it to another level, I guess I’m saying. These guys are the same way. I would say that LeBron was probably more of a guy that I would’ve wanted to be like if I was watching the game today, and probably vice versa. I was probably the player that he mostly patterned his game after—he’s more of an all-around player, and, again, he’s magnified it to another level.

You can’t really play the way someone played, you have to try to be better. There’s no player that I could say that I watched in the past, one player, that I wanted to have my game like. I liked Dr. J, but I wanted to better than Dr. J. If you look at Dr. J’s game against today’s players, well, Dr. J wasn’t half as exciting to watch as players in today’s game. They can dribble better, they can shoot better, they’re faster, they’re stronger, they’ve got a better looking body, they’ve got bigger shoe contracts. When I was watching Dr. J, the game was very small. You only had maybe two, three times a year that you had people watching Dr. J, unless it was in the Playoffs. So it’s hard to want to imitate players from back then. You want to be like two or three players, and you want to better than them. I would want to be like Larry and Magic, not just like Magic, because Magic wasn’t a great shooter. And neither one of them could play defense. So I wanted to be like a Darrell Walker, or an Alvin Robertson, or a Derek Harper. I wanted to be a guy who could defend a guy, all up and down the court. There’s a variety of players you want to be like, it’s not one player.

SLAM: Did you hear about Jerry Sloan’s resignation?

SP: I heard he was resigning. He must have been really pissed Carlos Boozer was able to come in there and win.

SLAM: What kind of memories do you have of playing against him?

SP: He’s a hard-nosed coach. I played for Coach Sloan during the Olympics, and I tell you, what a great guy. What a competitor. And you can just hear it in his voice that he has that competitive side, and he’s just a great coach. He’s very basic, and persistent, and consistent. He don’t change nothing, and he’s just gonna keep coming at you. You have to respect him for the great Utah Jazz teams that he’s brought through there that have always been one of the top teams in the League.

SLAM: Why’d you get involved with Isotonix?

SP: I got involved with the product because I’ve had a lot of surgeries and things, and I’ve really been trying to pamper all of my injuries from that, from scar tissue or operating pain that’s starting to generate from knee pain. I was introduced to some of the Isotonix products, and JR [Ridinger] and their doctors were able to put together a product that really can stimulate and regrow some of the cartilage into the joints, and basically relieve a lot of the pain.

SLAM: And since you’ve been using it, have you been feeling better?

SP: Yeah, it’s been great. I can’t say I haven’t have any problems, but I definitely have been feeling better than I had in the last year, and I’m definitely gonna continue to use it.

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  • jake

    “I would say two and a half players, since I don’t think Chris Bosh is half the player of LeBron James.” — amazing.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I love Pip….but boy he sounds like a jack-a*s. Does he even know what the record for team wins in Heat history is? Why even harp on it? The team itself never made those claims, so you’re just taking Van Gundy’s words and putting out insults. You’re a legend and a champion, what’s in it for you? Damn Scottie, you’re a hater. I loved your game, but you sound pretty moronic with that particular stance. I also like that he said the “bulls were easy” to deal with. Know why? ‘Cause all them guys were trying to win. All of them. It’s easy to coach guys that are self-motivated.

  • Mo

    Pippen has earned the right to say whatever he wants, he won 6 titles. I think his honesty is refreshing and he is more well spoken than Barkley. He is right about Miami- they haven’t done anything yet, and Bosh is not that great.

  • dahon

    #33 deserves a statue in chicago…

  • tRay

    Pip speaks the truth but he does sound he’s got some haterade in him lol calling people jackasses for no good reason and just cuz he has 6 rings doesn’t give you the right to say whatever. So Mo you’re saying if someone doesn’t have a ring/rings then they can’t voice their opinion? Eff outa here.

  • MUBWAR

    Why is this goof keep hating on Miami. It’s been since the HOF induction. Yes, he is a 6 times champs and yes he is a goof with a b!gass mouth who couldn’t do ish without the GOAT. And how is it he made it to the HOF with career averages of 16-6 and 5.

  • T-Money

    So… he doesn’t think that Miami can win 61 games this season? Interesting, because they’re on pace to do just that, and that’s with a 9-8 start. I mean, the 72 wins talk was absurd but that was JVG, that didn’t come from anyone in Miami’s camp. Does Pip know that Miami is tied for 1st in the East? He was talking like they weren’t even close to the top. CB has to be the least respected star in the league. He gets no love whatsoever lol.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    In order to be the least respected star, don’t you first have to be a star?

  • T-Money

    6 consecutive all-star games don’t make you a star anymore?

  • MUBWAR

    T-Money thank you cause I was gonna add that. If 6 consecutive all star nod don’t make you a star I don’t know what will. And just to throw it out there, Pippen in his entire 17 years NBA career was selected in only 7 of them.

  • Joblo

    Wow u seriously just asked how scottie made it to the HOF? No the bulls wouldn’t have won championships without MJ but guess what, it wouldn’t of happened if scottie wasn’t there either. If the Heat win a couple of times then we can have a valid discussion but until then scottie can say all he wants becuz he set the standard for these guys

  • T-Money

    i love how he casually says that bron tried to pattern his game his game after him. uh? bron told him that?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Mubwar, as usual you have no idea what you’re talking about.
    Couldn’t do ish without the GOAT? How about leading the Bulls to a 55-27 season without Michael Jordan while averaging 22, 8, 5 and 3 steals a game.
    And you have the nerve to question his HOF credentials?
    In case you don’t know, Pippen started off slow before blowing up in Chicago, and after his Chicago days he was never better than the third offensive option on any team, but he was still a great player and outstanding, OUTSTANDING defender.
    By the way, minus his first year (87-88) and last year (03-04) in Chicago, neither of which he played much, Pippen’s averages with the Bulls were 19 points, 7.1 rebound, 5.6 assists, and 2.2 steals per game while playing with arguably the greatest player in NBA history.
    Add to that –
    Seven time All Star
    Seven All-NBA Teams
    Ten NBA All-Defensive selections, eight First-Team
    One of three NBA players to ever record 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season.
    Set record for career steals for a forward.
    I could go on.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    And Eboy, you’re my dude, but you calling Pip a hater is like Bill O’Reilly calling Rush Limbaugh an extreme right-wing nut.

  • T-Money

    I know I’m going to get killed for saying this. But Scottie Pippen is essentially Joe Johnson with outstanding defense. He’s a first ballot HOF’er for sure but we shouldn’t compare him to the greats. He’s nowhere close to Larry, Magic, Zeke, MJ and those guys. If Pippen is your best player, you have no chance to win a title and that should be considered when discussing the greatness of his career.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Pippen is the man, some of you guys are really showing yourselves to be young or ignorant. Read about the Bulls 93-94 season. If not for Hue Hollins the Bulls go to the Finals without MJ. Come on people.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Or, what Enigmatic said.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Also like seeing the return of Keep the Crossover.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    T-Money how many Bulls games did you watch back then? I watched them all, and “Joe Johnson with outstanding defense” is not at all how I’d describe him.
    Defensively he was better than Larry, Magic, Zeke and MJ. Offensively, he deferred a great deal to MJ, but was capable of putting up 40 whenever he wanted.
    And I HATE Hue Hollins.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enig, you’re funny. Also, are you sure he was better than Michael defensively….’cause you’re losing yourself in the moment here. Scottie BECAME a great defender because of Mike, not in spite of him. Yes, he played Magic better in the 91 Finals, when Mike struggled with is length, but to just say he was better isn’t close to being true. I watched all those Bulls games (from the time Scottie was a sh*tty rook with no heart) and guess what else? Michael built up his swagger and his desire to be great. Don’t remember? Look it up. Scottie was all-world. Like Ben said, you are either young or ignorant to realize how great he was. A better overall player with a nicer floor game? Scottie might have that edge on Mike. To think he could score “40 whenever he wanted” is just silly. When Scottie scored 40 it was huge news. The night Michael and him went for 40 each on the Pacers……that almost seemed too good to be true. You know why? ‘Cause Scottie never was able to get that flow again with Mike in tandem. And this is coming from someone who has Scottie amongst my top 5 favorite players ever. So let’s be level when we’re talking history.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Also, Joe Johnson wouldn’t have even been Ron Harper on those Bull teams. Well, with a little better offense.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    pippen almost led the bulls back to the finals WITHOUT mj.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Almost means he couldn’t get it done when it counted the most….WITHOUT MJ. I mean, who was more gung-ho about Michael coming back from baseball then Scottie. If Scottie truly wanted the burden of being “The Man” for an extended period of his career, he would have been fine being the centerpiece in the Bulls plans for years…not just one season. And while what he did that season was exceptional, Bulls fans knew without Michael, the Bulls weren’t going to have definitive runs to the title each season.

  • http://brimartin13@gmail.com Brion

    He just comes off as kind of a pr*ck.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    eboy, i agree with you that scottie ultimately needed mj. mubwar makes it sound as if scottie couldn’t do a thing without mj being there. just wanted to point out that without mj, scottie came pretty damn close

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    I’ve heard that he refers to himself in 3rd person. (sitting at restaurant) “Hey waiter, Scottie Pippen is ready to order now, Scottie Pippen would like the pork chops. Scottie Pippen thanks you, but don’t count on a tip”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    That’s why Scottie’s a legend….dude was a killer from ’91 to ’98.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    BossTerry, maybe Lebron really DID pattern his style after him.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    SLAM: Did you hear about Jerry Sloan’s resignation?
    SP: I heard he was resigning. He must have been really pissed Carlos Boozer was able to come in there and win.
    thiiiiiis guy

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Haha..

  • MUBWAR

    Legend or not, mostly NOT, dude is a freakin hater. What did the big 3 do to him anyway?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Eboy – I mean, I know if you take MJ at his defensive prime and Scottie at his defensive prime, MJ would be the better defender.
    I mean, 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks per the year he won DPOY? From a shooting guard? That is just NASTY.
    But in my opinion, by the time Michael came back from baseball, Scottie was the best defender on the Bulls. Maybe it’s cause I was only 9 when MJ retired, so my memories of the Bulls is always of Pippen being the best defender on the court.
    Pippen can be a prick off the court though. I’ve heard plenty of stories about that. The whole “no-tippin’ Pippen”. How Scottie brushed off a fan who wanted an autograph in such a harsh tone that Michael felt compelled to go and give the kid an autograph and talked to the kid himself.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    *when MJ retired the first time, I should’ve added.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    And MUBWAR, your ignorance is showing. “Mostly NOT”? When did you start watching the NBA, 2003?

  • Jeff H

    I’ve met pippen before numerous times. He is not the nicest person in the world and can come off as abrasive.

    His personality aside the guy is one of the 50 greatest players of all time. Check out the 93-94 season like Ben said earlier. He averaged 24-7-6 that year and took the team to finals without MJ. As far as defense goes Pippen is the best wing defender ever. He could guard 4 positions. I Still remember like it was yesterday when the Bulls had him guard Payton in the finals.

  • Jeff H

    Also the major reason Pippen is back with the Bulls as an ambassador is that he blew almost all his money.

  • MUBWAR

    actually yeah

  • Dirtybird

    Cleveland Jr. – “Thank you Scottie Pippeeennn”

  • Hambone

    The statue should involve him t-bagging Ewing all in solid bronze.should be built next to the mj one(in the shadow)

  • http://theurbangriot.com The NUPE

    Yes, Pippen was a great player and a clear HOFer who almost took the team to the finals without MJ. Also, MJ never took the team to the finals without Pippen. A team with two superstars can often get over the hump when a single superstar can’t. If LeBron had Amare or Wade or Bosh or ____ on the Cavs last year, they would have likely gotten to the finals. Pippen giving his opinion doesn’t make him a hater it just means he’s giving his honest opinion and I find that refreshing. To say the guys today are faster, better shooters and have better bodies than Dr. J is not hating on Dr. J, it’s the truth. To say Magic didn’t have a great shot is just the truth. To say the Heat aren’t close to beating the Bulls record and should first get the best record in Florida history is just the truth. I don’t think Scottie was hating on Dr. J, Magic or the Heat etc, he was just speaking his honest opinion. The only ‘hate’ I got from his comments was on Bosh – and I think that was uncalled for and didn’t need to be said, but that was just the truth too IMO.

  • Chris

    Pippen could easily have been the MVP of the 93-94 season. I mean, upping your stats in EVERY category without MJ? Most people thought the Bulls would struggle, and that Pippen would have a hard time finding his shot. Instead he refined his game, adding a deadly spot up three, a nice post game, could shot the hook shot with easy with either hand etc. And this while being a monster defensively every game.

    And people also don’t remember that Pippen actually was in the race for MVP again in 95 before MJ came back. Of course, with MJ back on the floor, Pippen’s mvp chances was all but ruined. And I actually command Pippen for wanting MJ back. Here is a superstar that put winning before anything, and didn’t go on a ego trip, although he knew he would take a step back again.

    Pippen in his peak was a true marvel.

  • jojo

    Keep adding fuel and hate towards the Heat, see how that worked out for Phil Jackson and Otis Smith with the beat downs they’ve put on their respective teams. This team has lost 2 games since late November with all 3 in the starting lineup. The other 4 games they’ve lost was b/c one of the big 3 was out with an injury. Scary.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Scottie is mad a lot because he didn’t get the money he deserved. dude was like the sixth highest paid player on some of those bulls teams, which had to irk.
    anyway, dude is not joe johnson with defense, mainly because pippen had better floor IQ on offense, wasn’t as a good a shooter as Johnson, but was a better passer. there game’s aren’t really similar at all.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And that comment about Bosh was just mean. Damn, everybody hates Bosh. What did dude do to get hated so much/ He’s probably the best third wheel in the league and could be the second option on a contender if necessary. This is getting weird.

  • JTaylor21

    Scottie during his prime was a better defensive player than MJ. I know it hurts the MJ nutjobs to say this but there were players out there who were better than MJ at something. MJ had the steals and blocks early in his career but Pip was the one guarding the opposing team’s best perimeter player every night. He also erased alot of the bulls mistakes on the defensive end.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Hue Hollins saved Michael Jordan’s legacy.

  • Sko!

    I thought Lebron never needed a ‘Pippen’, he needed a ‘Jordan’ as far as skillset and mentality, somebody who was a better pure shooter, hungry and able defender, and who wanted to dominate everybody in the other uniform, but maybe where the balance of talent was shifted. I thought, at a point that the Cavs might’ve had that if Joe Johnson had chosen them. That was what I thought this Miami thing might be, (obviously w/out the shooting)but clearly it’s a little more complex than that. Seems like Lebron having the chance to share leadership w/Wade has made him a stronger leader.

  • http://thephotoriot.com davidR

    allenp, it is getting weird. i think it’s just that bosh seems like an easy target. someone who get’s picked on

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    can’t believe Pip never was DPOY. he’s the best perimeter defender of all time.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    AllenP is right about Pip not getting the money he deserved.
    He made $725,000 in ’87-’88
    $575,000 in 88-89
    $765,000 in 90-91
    $2,770,000 in 91-92
    $3,425,000 in 92-93
    $3,075,000 in 93-94
    $2,225,000 in 94-95
    $2,925,000 in 95-96
    $2,250,000 in 96-97
    $2,775,000 in 97-98
    That’s not even $21 mil in ten seasons. Kobe Bryant made over $23 mil last year.

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