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Monday, February 14th, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  178 responses

Post Up: None Shall Pass

C’s shut down Heat again; Lakers fall in Orlando.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Boston 85, Miami 82

The Heat can win tons and tons of regular season games, but if they can’t close against the Celtics, they’ll never get out of the East. I have a scientific formula that proves it. And, needless to say, last night they did anything but close, falling to the C’s in the day’s early game. They kept it competitive, down two with 13 seconds remaining and LeBron James at the line, but LBJ could only convert one, and then, down three and with the clock winding down, Mike Miller received a hell of a wide-open, game-tying look…clank. Rajon Rondo was all over place for the Celts, putting up an 11-10-10 triple-double, and Kevin Garnett led them in scoring with 19. Meanwhile, Paul Pierce was awful, shooting 0-10 and scoring 1 single point, though reports say that might be injury-related. Here’s to hoping it’s nothing that’s gonna linger for too long.

Orlando 89, L.A. Lakers 75

Apparently the Lakers were a little too worried about their Grammy viewing party, and not nearly worried enough about the Magic, who simply had their way yesterday. L.A. shot 39. 3 percent from the field, and none of their players scored more than 17 points, as the Magic inched forward each quarter and sealed things up early in the fourth. Dwight Howard’s run of dominating performances continued with a 31-point, 13-rebound showing, while Brandon Bass returned to action to the tune of 6 points and 8 boards. It wasn’t much, but Bass’ help off the bench will be crucial for the Magic going forward. This was the Lakers’ first loss on their extended road trip, which continues in Charlotte tonight.

Memphis 116, Denver 108

A 17-point deficit wasn’t enough to keep the Grizz outta this one, as they climbed back behind Darrell Arthur (24 points, a career high) and Rudy Gay (23 points) to rally for the victory. Carmelo Anthony (28 points) was solid, though not quite on par with his recent string of huge scoring performances, and Denver took the L despite shooting 55 percent from the floor. The Nuggets are now off travel to Houston, where they have the Rockets tonight.

Washington 115, Cleveland 100

It had to happen eventually. And, come on, where else would it go down? Following 25 road losses, the Wizards got their first W away from Washington, D.C., defeating the Cavaliers with ease in Cleveland. Nick Young, who’s developing into quite the pure scorer, dropped 31, while John Wall put in 19 and distributed 14. The Wizards are now off to Orlando, where they’ll face the Magic. So I ask: Is two in a row too much to…yeah, nevermind.

Toronto 98, L.A. Clippers 93

It’s dope that Blake Griffin (21 points, 15 boards) can throw down the wild dunks and put up all these huge stat lines, but the next step from here will be whether or not he can lead his team to a few Ws. Andrea Bargnani beat him to the punch yesterday, scoring 27 and coming through in the clutch to help the Raps earn the win. Also noteworthy, Ed Davis: 13 points, 14 boards, 3 blocks. Word.

Portland 105, Detroit 100

What, you thought LaMarcus Aldridge wasn’t planning on reminding the world about his All-Star snub at every opportunity he gets? Nah, thats happening. Yesterday LA dropped 36 and hit a big-time bucket, leading the Blazers over the Pistons on the road. Wesley Matthews also pitched in 26 for Portland, who won their fourth straight and seem to have every intention of holding on tightly to that eighth spot in the West. Sorry, Grizz fans.

Golden State 100, Oklahoma City 94

Ever since a couple of Wilson Chandler’s teeth got stuck in his arm, David Lee hasn’t really seemed the same. Until last night. DLee scored 23 and grabbed 19, putting up his old D’Antoni numbers and helping the Warriors get the win. Stephen Curry (23 points, 13 assists) was also great, dominating the ball and making smart play after smart play down the stretch. And this is strange: The Thunder shot 52.5 percent from the field, while the Warriors shot 43.4 percent. Yeah, I don’t know.

Sacramento 113, Phoenix 108

Not even 24 hours after the DeMarcus Cousins saga, the Kings were in Phoenix to take on the Suns, and they performed as if nothing negative had gone down in the slightest. Sacto put six players in double figures, led by Samuel Dalembert (!) and his 18 points, 15 boards and 3 blocks. For the Suns, Steve Nash had 22 points and 18 dimes in the loss.

Actual Stats: David Lee: 23 points, 19 boards, 2 assists, 3 steals

Last Call: The Heat, needing a three…

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  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    If it weren’t for the great Andrew Bynum’s interior defensive “presence,” Dwight Howard likely goes for 50. smhlol

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    great win by the c’s. they’re without Shaq, West, JO, Quis, and Erden, and Pierce goes 0-10 and they still take down the Heat. awesome if you’re a Celtics fan. can’t believe Rondo was guarding Lebron. yeah, he got taken into the post a few times, but he applied great ball pressure and helped cause a few turnovers as well.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Happy my Wizards finally got their first road win. John Wall said last night we’re a great team……well will step in the right direction once we fire Flip Saunders but that another story. We smashed the Cavs with ease unlike the Clippers. Now I see why the Bulls got rid of Vinny Del Negro. OKC refuse to play D. I thought they were ready to take that next step to be a contender but for now I’ll stop sipping on that Jim Jones kool-aid.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Rondo’s D on LeBron was suprisingly effective, LeBron kept his back to the basket and it looked like he was afraid to put the ball on the floor. LeBron should’ve put the ball in Wade’s or Chalmer’s hands and gone to the paint to post Rondo up, if he can’t exploit that matchup than he really needs to spend some more time in the gym. What’s up with Wade playing like sh*t against the C’s? It looks like they really have a solid defensive gameplan against LeBron and Wade because they’re struggling, same goes for Dallas’ zone D. I’m anxious to see how Miami will stack up against The Spurs.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    The Heat simply can’t beat the Celtics. I was surprised to see the Celtics get in Dwades head so easily. 16 points?

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    I think it was Allenp who said that KG is the most important player for the Celtics because of his defense and you can clearly see what he meant by watching the game last night, his team defense was so good. That being said, the Heat shooters need to knock down their open-three, Lebron did a good job of finding the open man but they wont beat the Celtics with 3-16. I hope those 2 teams meet in the ECF, it’s gonna be crazy.

  • MUBWAR

    the Heat loss because of poor decisions by Wade(once again) down the stretch and refs not calling fouls. And did Spolstra let the most eff player on the floor(Bosh) to take only 11 shots. And Ed Davis is forming into a nice PF in this league. He put Griffin on check yesterday.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    RONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, Not 4, Not 5, Not 6, Not 7….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Man, fu*k all that noise….Lebron and Wade need to kill all that noise about “we’re not at the Celtics level yet”…man shut the f*ck up and blast these cats. They have a psychological advantage when they play you because you give them one. Political correctness is for pu*sies. Doc threw in a nice wrinkle having Rondo putt on heavy ball pressure….something that simpleton for the Heat could never add into a gameplan……a wrinkle. The Heat played three solid quarters and one horrible one. That was the big difference. The sh*tty thing is the last time these two teams play this season, both of them may not even play the starters if the seedings have been decided. Props to the Celts for holding them off again.

  • JTaylor21

    Jahmai, I think that mistake falls on the coaches head. He has to make either Wade or Miller the primary ball-handler and tell Bron to place his a** on the block if the celtics want Rondo checking him, instead the coach sat there and watched his best offensive weapon spend the entire quarter dribbling. Bron abused PP on the block a couple of times, so I don’t know why they went away from that.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    gotta agree with Eboy, if I were a Heat fan, I’d be pissed about them saying that too. they’re more or less telling the Celtics that they’re the better team and the Heat are aware of it. talk about competitiveness.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Simpleton. Add another word if you’d like.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I agree with Eboy too, Wade called them ‘the bigger brother’ and how the Celtics are THE team to beat, the hell with that. We’re talking about the best player in the league, the 2-time (soon to be 3) MVP, a Finals MVP and a perrenial All-Star in Bosh, they were healthy, the C’s were banged up, PP couldn’t buy a shot, Ray Allen wasn’t hot or anything. C’mon, I’m dissapointed in the Heat, I want them to win.

  • http://masterx1983@hotmail.com marchalmadness

    seems like lebron is waiting till playoffs before really stepping it up. Great D by the celtics. Miami could have won if they would have made a few off those wide open three pointers, they missed them and still only lost by three, not that bad right?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/farmer-jones/ Ryan Jones

    Did two separate people just agree with Eboy? Truly, these are the end times.
    And honestly, I loved seeing Wade jump at KG.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    F*ck you.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Well, not really. You know I love you. I’m just having hot flashes right now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I still think either Wade or LeBron has to take the lead because every time they’ve faced Boston, there’s really a weird vibe between the two, like: ‘are you going now?’. ‘Should I take this shot?’. If there’s a more clear pecking order, things will work out better.

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    marchalmadness, you could also say that Ray didnt shot the ball well, Pierce shot freaking 0-10, Marquis, Shaq and Delonte DNP, and the Celtics still won. The Heat had a good opportunity to send a message and they just laid an egg.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    So after the blowout win, where do we put the Magic in terms of the NBA elite? It was great to see SVG ensure Dwight touched the ball on just about every possession.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Memo to Pat Riley: You have exactly 10 days to find a serviceable point guard. That is all.

  • Riggs

    yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • T-Money

    I’ll go Dan LeBatard on ya’ll for a second: give me tangibles over intangibles any day. Tangibles are D-Wade not being comfortable running the point, shooters missing wide open jumpers, Boston’s bigs showing hard on screens and recovering, Rondo finding 3-point shooters in transition. KG barking, Wade with the big brother comments, all of that is just noise. Is CB less afraid of KG than two months ago and is that the reason he had a near perfect game? / Also, let’s not overstate Rondo on Bron. There’s a reason why Doc didn’t stay with that. It surprised Miami for a couple of possessions but Bron had his way with Rondo on the block and found plenty of shooters that missed wide open jumpers. If that’s the defensive match up Doc goes too in the playoffs, then Boston will lose.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    T-Money must have been drinking this morning in preparation for a long Valentines Day.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Many times coaching or inability to make in-game adjustments determines the game more than players playing. No way 171lbs Rondo should be bailed out guarding 260 lbs Lebron 25ft away from the basket for entire possessions. This one’s on Spo. Doc is one of the best at making these simple but significant changes. On the other side, Dwight looked really good in the post. SVG is furious that still too much credit is going to The Dream for this improvement.

  • T-Money

    e: i do agree on that. they need a better pg. i can live with the hodgepodge of bigs (and i wish we could find minutes for big cat sometimes) but i can’t live with rio and carlos. wade-miller-bron should be the lineup to close it out, not to play the whole 4th quarter. i really thought rio could cut it but he obviously cant’t. is it just me or has he lost TONS of explosiveness? i remember some really nice dunks from his rookie year, it can’t be just the ankle.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Rio has a nagging ankle injury…..he seems to tweek it every couple of weeks. I thought he would have panned out by now. That is not the case. I would say he has little to no trade value. He’s on the roster until his rookie deal runs. They need to look at Keyon Dooling or Earl Watson, both of whom are available and can be had. Riley needs to be working his a*s off until the 24th. I won’t put it past him. Sh*t, has J-Will signed with Memphis yet?

  • T-Money

    miami risks being outcoached in any games vs lal, bos or san an. that’s just the reality of the situation. these guys are better coaches. spo has to go to the nba finals (not necessarily win it all) to keep his job. larry brown is already house hunting in coral gables. or even ph…

  • MUBWAR

    how can D3 run the point when he had 5 turnovers in the 3 min Lebron was sitting. What is Chalmers doing? Arroyo? Why would the coach give the ball to the man who turns it over the most?

  • paul

    Celtics fans have to be smiling right now. How on earth could we possibly have won that game? The Cs have been playing terribly. On top of that, the injury bug has been eating them up. This should have been a Heat blowout.

    Well, as Rivers said, Rondo basically won the game for the Celtics, willing it into the W column, or rather, the ghost of Dennis Rodman won it! Garnett has a lot of Rodman in him, and apparently Garnett has taught a lot of that to Rondo, because Rondo laid the Rodman on Lebron, and not only did it get into Lebron’s head, it also woke up Rondo’s teammates. The result was a quarter dominant enough to win the game. Barely.

    And that’s the hangover awaiting Celtics fans in the morning. This Celtics team has a well defined game, involving intensive rotation-based team defense and movement/screening/passing-based offense; but it rarely actually plays the game that it knows works. Even in a climactic game against the Heat, the Cs only played ‘their’ game for one quarter. They basically got handled by Miami the rest of the game, and really SHOULD have lost.

    Let’s face it: no team plays all-out for 48 minutes. But it’s getting to the point where Celtics fans are lucky if the ‘real’ Celtics show up twice a month at this point. How do you back into a championship that way?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Paul is funny…..they won the game, buddy……the credit is all theirs.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Good win by the Magic last night. The Magic will go as far as Dwight can carry them. But I still see them as the 4th or 5th seed in the East.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Royal

    Dwight Howard Sh!ted on the Lakers last night….smh

  • Brian

    Unfortunately for Heat fans the hardest LeBron ran all day was away from the last shot of the game. It seemed like he was wide open.

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    So Lebron gets no criticism for missing the free throw that would of led to a tie game? You guys are something else. BTW Rose is the MVP. He has the freaking Bulls 20 games over .500.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The only thing I give the Wade credit for is when he blasted KG and that big bi*ch did nothing in return. Otherwise, he was horrible for the THIRD time against the Celts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Who’s patted Lebron on the back, Kap? STFU and describe your teams effort yesterday, you half-brained jacka*s. Describe Kobe’s unreal 17 point performance in a double digit blowout. We’ll wait.

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    MVPs don’t miss clutch free throws. Also, D12 made the lakers frontcourt look like little schoolgirls.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Pow, pow….. shots fired. (as in Eboy towards Kap).
    Entertaining.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Anyone notice the new crop of colour/hair on Nenad K’s head? What is that, spray on rogaine?
    Jarring…

  • T-Money

    Anybody who doesn’t think Miami’s last shot was the absolute best they could get in that situation is stupid. Plain and simple. Save that hero BS, your best 3-point shooter wide open is the way to go 100% of the time. Now that FT, ugh.. you can kill him for that. Just gotta make those. I don’t want him to be more “clutch” with his free throws, I want him to make em at an 80-percent clip for the first time of his career. Guys as talented as Wade and Bron should not shoot below 80 from the line, that’s completely unacceptable.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    Next time they play, I hope Spo suits up Magloire to shiv Rondo. i hate that guy! Did you see him punk the whole team by hovering around their huddle. I was calling for someone to put an elbow in that little p*nk’s temple. i’m feeling Ceelo right now, fu get RR!

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    Darksaber, the way the seeding is going, we could see Dallas-L.A in the semi-finals and your team has a good chance if someone can guard Pau effectively.

  • VOngustedt

    Just to note before tonight Lebron was 20-20 at FT this season in ‘clutch’ situation, best in the league >.<

  • http://slamonline.com kap

    @eboy …
    Read the comments. Ur lackeys are slurping te hell out lebron and placing all the blame on Wade and Spo. Don’t get mad at me bc ur team can’t get a w even when Pierce has one point, Allen struggles and Shaw and west don’t play. BTW Wade is letting becoming second fiddle affect his game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I love Rondo. I wish he was wearing red and black. One of my 5 favorite players in the league right now.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    My comments:
    1. I’ve said from the beginning Spo is a terrible coach. The commentators here shift their opinions from “awful” to “he’s alright” to “he’s pretty good!” and back again. I’ve stuck with the fact I thought he was awful. Dumb rotations, minimal offensive calls out of timeouts (although the last play of the game was ACTUALLY really good, which shocked me), and a total lack of clear trust with his teammates. The only reason they started doing good after that 9-8 egg was Riley. Clear as day to me.
    2. Perkins is the starting center… Dampier plays 6 minutes. This is unacceptable. Beyond unacceptable.
    3. Rondo was the reason the Celtics won in the third but also nearly lost in the fourth. Luckily, LeChoke’s doesn’t make them when it counts.
    4. The Celtics’ win has overshadowed the fact that the Lakers lost to the fourth best team in the east. Kobe is really done. Remember even a YEAR ago we were talking about him making a run at that scoring title? Hahahahaha….
    5. So, is Blake Griffin the driving force behind the Clippers, or is it Eric Gordon? I’ll wait…. BTW: Kevin Love and Amare Stoudemire may be awful at defense, but Blake Griffin realllllly gives them a run for their money.
    6. Aldridge is reminding us daily of being snubbed, but another point is telling us some neat things: Nash with 22-18. He sure as hell looked better than Westbrook.
    7. Is the comment section just generally NICER now that a certain sports writer isn’t writing here anymore?

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    Lakers lost, Heat lost, moving right along…

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    VOngustedt: That comment is wrong. Even the LAST game, Lebron was 3-4 with under a minute to go and gave the other team a chance (I forget what game it was). So, yeah, subjective stat.

  • Squirrel7

    Eboy, I’m a little confused. A few days ago, you were saying how ridiculous it was that Doc Rivers will be coaching the All-Star team, when at that exact point Miami had the better record (a ridiculous argument in itself, are you saying they should decide the coach the night before the game?!). So I can only assume you were implying that Spoelstra should’ve been coaching instead? Even though every time the Heat drop a game, you throw a b*tch fit and talk about how dumb he is, how he’s holding Miami back, blah blah blah. Christ, I’ve never seen anyone flip-flop back and forth so much on an argument.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Anthony, i’d agree if they didn’t have one x-factor on the bench who tends to yank players minutes around in the most ridiculous situations: coach Carlysle.
    And where the hell is Roddy B? Man that foot is taking it’s damn time to heal

  • T-Money

    That was Bron’s firt miss of the season at the line in the last minute. Just sayin… / The only thing I’m really mad at Spo for is that he didn’t push the pace. Paul Pierce was even saying before the game that Bron and Wade on the break was basically a guaranteed layup. PLAY TO YOUR STRENGHTS AND STOP TRYING TO ADAPT. There needs to be a set rotation after the break. Guys have to get in a groove, know when they are going to play, at least for the first 3 quarters. Play the 3 centers every game. I’m starting to think that Carlos wasn’t that bad… which means Miami needs a point guard asap.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Squirrel….I don’t want Spo anywhere near an All-Star game….it would just be for recognition for the organization….he would just be a figurehead. No flip flopping on my part.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Damn, more bullets flying (Jukster’s dig at BC, i’m sensing Bryan will break his silence to shoot back at that)

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    @jukai…u gotta be kiddn about Kobe being done. He dropped 42 on Celtics shooting 60% and coulda went for 50+ against the knicks. U guys are quick to say he’s done. Heard it last year before he went video game mode agst the Jazz and Suns.

  • T-Money

    Funny Q&A by Ira from Sun Sentinel, KG absolutely should have been fouled out on Bron’s drive with a minute to go:
    Q: When’s the last time Garnett has fouled out in Boston. It’s possible right? — Tony.
    A: If you read the collective-bargaining agreement carefully, you will notice it’s actually not allowed in the commonwealth. The officials have special buzzers to notify them when he has five fouls. If they blow their whistles in such situations, they would be electrocuted.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    I appreciate his skills, E, I just don’t like the little p*nk. i want somebody in Black and Red to knock his as$ out.

  • T-Money

    Dark: oh gawd, let’s hope not.

  • Brian

    The C’s offense is something to behold with its’ precision and sharing. It is in stark contrast to the Don’t Blame Me offense that the Big 3, I mean, Heat run. Bosh was perfect up until the time he took a shot to try and tie the game.

  • Bruno

    jukai is crazy with the kobe is really done line hahaha

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    Put me on Celtics and I can do wat Rondo does and hit a jumper and make free throws w/o a problem. The guy is very overrated.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Happy St Valentin 2 every1 in the Slam fam who cares and Go Celtix!

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Gotta commend Ryne, Adam and the team for the pictures that accompany the slideshows on the main page. Rondo lurking below Bron, what an image.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Kap: yeah, and i’d outrun Usain Bolt, easy.

  • T-Money

    Brian: that precise offense mustered 11 points in the 4th quarter.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    @T-money: yeah, he fouled lebron on that play, but KG’s fouls number 4 and 5 were bad calls. maybe a makeup call on the refs’ parts.

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    “Kobe is really done” Jukai, i dont know about that but what i saw is when Kobe is looking for his offense and going 1 on 1 for 4/5 straight possession, the Lakers have a real hard time with moving the ball after that and the whole team become stagnant, Odom can play this way, but Pau and the rest of the team needs to be in rythm.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    Damn, Kap. can’t believe you’re calling the guy who put up a triple-double and willed his team to a win overrated. hater.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Rondo just “does sh*t”….he makes things happen, he’s an x-factor, sometimes in ways stats don’t show. He’s the Celtics catalyst.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Royal

    I wasn’t really under the impression that Kobe was forcing the issue yesterday….Dwight Just dominated their frontline, thats really all that happened
    In that game

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    Any ladies out there single for V-Day? If so, this handsome 22 yr old is there for you all. 

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Dark: Nope… I could care less. Why? Because “sports writer” > “commenter.” Gone…

  • Mvp23100

    @Kap
    I knew you didn’t get p*ssy

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I don’t agree that missing a free throw means you’re not clutch, but I agree with kap when he says that its funny that when Rose misses a free throw it means he’s not clutch and not MVP material. Lebron misses and you better not mention it or Eboy will mock your favorite team.

  • http://jooo Max

    @ Kap
    If MVP’s can’t miss ft’s when it’s clutch, than Drose also aint no MVP :D

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It’s hard to take a second level team seriously, Diesel.

  • http://Slamonline.com Kap

    Lmao @ Mvp23100…

  • Diesel

    You mean a second level team like the heat that can’t best any good teams?

  • VOngustedt

    @Jakai….”James was 20-for-20 on free throws during the final minute when the score was within five points this season” LeOwned…

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    The very definition of a second level team is a team that’s good, but not challenging for a championship. Considering the Heat can’t beat the Celtics, that would make them a second level team in my mind.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Keep hope alive, Diesel.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    You too Eboy – maybe that mystical point gaurd you guys pick up will fix your lack of down low presence and bench too. SECOND RATE

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    They’ll surely finish better than the Second City Windbags, so there’s that.

  • http://www.gmx.net Darksaber

    Oh come now, BC. In psych 101 terms, the fact that u even reacted by commenting tells volumes about your stance.
    Otherwise you’d have “retired” like u’ve claimed multiple times.
    But please do continue being > than the everyday commenter even though u are one as well)

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Boston has been the best team all season, shouldn’t be surprising that they beat Miami. Miami will still end up with homecourt, and this won’t matter at all come May.

  • A.

    @BC: Correction: I think you meant “I couldn’t care less” which means you absolutely do not give a f*ck. I could care less means you actually do care a bit. Unless you meant that you do care seeing that you chose to respond. But hey, I’m just a commenter.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    If that’s why your team was put together Eboy, to finish higher than the Bulls, then you may still have a chance, you’re right.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    @A: well played. it annoys me when people make that mistake too.

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/ Anthony

    10 days before Miami @Chicago

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    10 Days before another regular season game everyone will overreact about. My weekend was disappointing, and solely for the fact that the super loser bowl was ruined by the clippers at the end of last week. Was soo looking forward to Wizards @ Cavs

  • JTaylor21

    Has KG ever be called for illegal screens? I mean dude damn near decapitated Miller on that screen and there was no call but DHow set a perfectly legal screen vs LA and illegal screen was called. I remember a game vs the lakers a couple of years back when KG set like 5 consecutive illegal screens. I now see why people despise KG so much, dude is borderline dirty.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That moving screen on Dwight was by the book a moving pick. They don’t call it often or ever, so i don’t agree, but by the book that Dwight play was a foul..

  • JTaylor21

    How was that a moving screen but KG’s wasn’t. You can’t extend any part of your body on a screen which is what KG did while DHow stayed straight up. I’m not one to complain about the refs because I know they have a hard job but there has to be more consistency on their part.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    @Dark: I’m so not an “everyday commenter” anymore. That is pretty obvious.
    And… I “couldn’t care less.” Hopefully that’ll appease some of you.

  • JTaylor21

    Like all that BS about not calling fouls at the end of a close game, what kind of sh*t is that? A foul is a foul whether it occurred during the first quarter of a preseason game or during the fourth quarter of a Gm 7.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Oh i’m not defending KG, most picks that guy sets are moving. A lot of picks, a lot of players set are moving. You know they won’t call a moving pick on KG in Boston though. The most alarming thing about that game yesterday is that LeBron only went to the line twice, when there was clearly atleast 4 drives to the basket where he was fouled, clearly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I miss Bron Crawford.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Moving screens in the NBA are almost getting bad as the Euro game. And the refs pick the weirdest times to call people for fouls on screens.
    I wouldn’t say Miami hasn’t beaten any good teams. They’ve beaten L.A., Chicago, and Orlando. Haven’t beaten Boston, San Antonion or Dallas, but they only played the Texas teams once.
    The biggest thing is that Boston, so far, has negated the advantage having LeBron and Wade on the same squad was supposed to create. Both of them need to get it together.

  • Pharoah

    No video of Griffin absolutely destroying Sonny Weems yesterday?!?

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Miami hasn’t beaten Chicago.

  • dsleepy

    “The Heat can win tons and tons of regular season games, but if they can’t close against the Celtics, they’ll never get out of the East.” — You can substitute “Heat” for last (two) years’ Cavs too. Lebron = Regular Season Champ.

  • Brandon

    Allenp, just for clarification, Miami has not beaten Chicago yet. They only played once and qualifying Bron didn’t play and Noah didn’t play, but the Bulls won that game. They play again after the allstar game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Dwight 4 MVP.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    As its already been said, Miami hasn’t beat Chicago. The Heat are 1-6 against the top 5 teams in the league. But they’re a very good second tier team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    When ever has a teams regular season record against the top 5 teams in the league had a barring on their championship aspirations? I feel like your just using an interesting stat to make up a theory. Its like because Miami hasn’t beaten those 5 teams they are somehow worse then say Chicago and Orlando, even though at most, that is arguably false

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    nbk – I think it means a lot when the major knock on the Heat has been that they can’t beat good teams….and their record supports it. And if you don’t think its a big deal that the Heat can’t beat a team once during the regular season that they would need to beat 4 out of 7 times in order to win a championship, then more power to you and your fantasy world.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Basketball Commenting Stupidity at it’s finest, courtesy of SLAMOnline!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I do see the irony in you accusing me of using a meaningless stat in order to prove my point though.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    great points Eboy – I’d say something along the same lines if i had nothing to say and was partially retarded.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Sure I was speaking about you? Or are you conditioned to be considered an airhead in the real world too?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    And to clarify, I’m not making this a Bulls>Heat thing. i’m just saying the heat aren’t a threat to any true championship team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Nah, nevermind, today is your special holiday….I’m sure you’ve sent roses to your one true rose, Derrick. Enjoy your day with no further distractions from me.

  • Pharoah

    LeBron will become the only 5 time MVP to have never won a championship

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    1994-95 Houston Rockets – 0-2 Against the Magic in the Regular Season, then SWEPT them in the finals – As the 6 seed in the West

    That was the first team I looked at

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    nbk – thats 2 games. The magic weren’t also recent NBA champs. And what was those Rocket’s record against the other top teams in the League?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    I don’t understand how I’m spewing stupidity by pointing out that the Heat have a bad record against the top teams…and that they most likely won’t beat the Celtics.

  • dsleepy

    @diesel: you’re not.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Championship 05-06 Miami Heat went – 0-2 against Dallas in the regular season, beat them in the finals.
    1-3 against the nets, beat them 4-1 in the playoffs.
    1-2 against Detroit, beat them 4-2 in the playoffs. Regular season record means next to nothing against singular teams, especially when the games mainly take place before the all-star break.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I apologize Chicago fans, I misread the info on Basketball Reference a while back.
    I think the definition of “good” appears to be skewed.
    The Lakers and Orlando are considered “good” teams by most people.
    Miami has beaten Orlando twice and beat the Lakers on Christmas in a blowout.
    They’ve lost to Chicago (without Bron at full strength) and can’t beat Boston. They’ve also lost to the Texas teams.
    I think it’s fair to say their record against the League’s best teams is not good. Their showing against Boston is particularly troubling because every game has featured the same issues, and Boston has won despite never really having a single player go off, which will happen in the playoffs.
    All this petty back and forth is silly, by the way.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t think they will beat the Celtics either, but to say they aren’t a top tier team because there is ONE team that is definitively better is ridiculous. If Kevin Garnett gets hurt, you will have to say that the team coming out of the east is not a championship tier team right? Because Miami is as close as it gets to Boston’s level in the east.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So the Lakers and Celtics and split their series this season, both winning on the other’s home floor and are 1-1 against each in the previous Finals matchups? So who’s the clear cut favorite if those two teams meet again Mr. Regular Season Games Make All The Difference In The NBA World. I’d like to hear your airtight logic. And since the Magic beat the Lakers at home a week after the Lakers beat the Celtics in their house, that must make the Magic the favorites in a potential Finals rematch- between them too, right?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oops, that was me with the long comment under Crawford’s name.
    Again, which teams are considered championship contenders? My list looks like:
    Boston, Orlando, Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Miami
    Miami has beaten two of those teams and has lost to three of them.
    Since Boston is undeniably the class of the East, and the team most likely to make the Finals, I only see the losses to them as a big issue. I feel pretty confident that Miami would be the favorite against either Orlando or Chicago in the playoffs and an underdog against Boston.
    That’s no different from what everybody expected when the season began, right?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Exactly.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Oh and I noticed that little irony comment diesel, why don’t you speak up, when do i ever use meaningless stats to support some opinion of mine? since your in the mood to try and call me out

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    NBK – in your examples, none of those other teams were former champs and favorites to win the championship again that year. Dallas was the closest type team, but again, that was only 2 games…not 3 and possibly 4 losses. And to answer both your and Eboy’s questions, I’m not saying the regular season is the end all be all. I’m just saying it’s illustrating a trend. I’m sure if the Heat were 6-1 against the current top 5 teams Eboy would think the regular season record mattered more. @Allen – I don’t consider Orlando a top team. I think they got worse through the trade (smaller and worse defensively). The Lakers win is just plugging one of many holes on a sinking ship.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    nbk – I’m not taking shots at you. I just feel that you, more than most, rely on pure stats to prove your point. More specifically, stats over 48 minutes, which dilutes it even more. I prefer the good old eye test more. That’s all I’m saying.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel there is an article that posted on truehoop not even 10 minutes ago that proves my point. Here’s a quote – “In other words, knowing how a team performed vs. elite teams actually tells you less about who wins a playoff series than a team’s record against all teams, even non-elite teams. Team records vs. the cream of the crop certainly sound meaningful, but when it comes to predicting success or failure in the playoffs, you’d be better off knowing how they did against the entire league.”. So. Uh yeah

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    No, I really wouldn’t Diesel. As Lebron and his teams have proved in the recent past, regular season wins mean sh*t. I’m all good with about 60 wins and a strong run in the playoffs. I thought they’d win about 65 games when the season started. I’ll take that every day of the week for what is considered a brand new team with stars that can’t play together.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    @Allen – Going into the season most people thought the heat were somewhere in the top 3 with Boston and LA. With their record, I’d now probably put them behind LA, Boston, San Antonio, and Dallas.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I used the 48 minute stat to talk about defensive effectiveness, and if you don’t use a single number in terms of minutes then its impossible to compare players logically. (Like oh so and so is a way better rebounder, he averages 4 more rebounds, even though the two players in question have a 12 minute difference in their per game minutes, the only logical way to figure out who is better is to make it so their time on the court is even, how is that not obvious?) And it dilutes nothing, it doesn’t change any of their stats, it would be the same if I said PER minute, per second, per quarter, no different.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And I only use stats to support my stance. I never use stats to come to a conclusion.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So, by your logic Diesel, they’re the second best team in the East….the only place that matters. Only one of the West teams will be playing in the Finals…not three.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    No, Those are the teams I’d definitly put ahead of them. I think Heat Bulls Magic are all close, probably in that order.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Magic aren’t close. The Bulls chances will all depend on how Rose’s teammates play in meaningful games.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Fair enough. I think I’ve reached my commenting limit for the day. We’ll revisit this convo later in the season.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Chicago is at best, making the ECF, and that’s only if they face Orlando in the second round. Keith Bogans has got to go for them to have a chance, Carlos Boozer is already going to make things difficult enough against the bigs of the East.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    ….chicago can’t beat the heat at full strength. I know the heat have this whole thing about point guards but seriously.

  • JTaylor21

    All this talk about record vs top teams is downright foolish and useless. What is this the BCS?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Right before The King choked on the free throw, Wade was getting in his ass about something that The King messed up on. A rotation or something? Kind of spooked him by the time he got to the line.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh Philosopher….it seems sad when you torment Lebron with your terse words.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    LONG… LIVE… THE KING. lol

  • Michael

    There is no way that 1-6 record doesnt concern heat fans. Orlando are not one of the top teams anymore, i thought that was pretty much understood, there 4 or 5 seed in the east. I know there are some other factors (injuries and such) in that 1-6 record but still it is concerning for the heat.

  • http://www.yahoo.com Erik Spoelstra

    *just a test*

  • http://www.danchamb.com.br Lz – Cphfinest3

    Every everyday commenter > the sports writer that writes all his articles on his phone (really show me one real writer who writes his/her articles on a phone?)

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Shout out @ The Philosopher!

  • http://www.yahoo.com Erik Spoelstra

    ..please don’t blame me, I’m just doing my job ;)

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^What’s going on, Fresh Prince of Nsam!!
    That’s my dude, right there.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Can’t Heat and Bulls fans just get along?
    Really, it’s silly how Heat and Bulls fans go at each other on here. Just downright silly, considering the only thing that even makes Miami/Chicago a rivalry right now is the fact that the Heat’s top 3 players all sh*tted on the Bulls organization this summer and signed together in Miami.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Oh u know bro, dealing with the “Everyday struggle” et al.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    I agree on Dallas and Boston.
    I think the Heat are about even with the Lakers.
    I’m not sure what to make of the Spurs. They keep winning games, and their record is the best in the league, but I’m not positive that would translate into a series win for them against Miami. Hell, even Dallas might struggle now that they’ve lost Caron Butler. That was a big loss for them.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    @The Fresh Prince of Nsam:
    I feel you. I respect that struggle. It is a real jungle out there, you know? And, only the strong survive. As much of a cliche that it is, it is gospel.
    And, in the words of Frederick Douglass;
    “If there is no struggle, there is no progress.”
    Peace.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I write all of my articles on my phone? Ha! That’s news to me. I used to write drafts and such on my Blackberry (when I had one) and then xfer them to my PC if the situation called for it (can’t always break out the laptop).
    But since I have a touch screen, that’s pretty difficult to do now.
    Surprisingly, I remember a year or so ago I had this convo w/ Holly via Twitter and told her about my BB thing.
    I guess Lz saw that and committed it to memory and decided to use it today as some sort of diss.
    Reason #586425864 why I don’t comment anymore. The free-flowing idiocy is just too much.

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Amen bro, Amen!

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    One last thing…
    If I did write ALL of my articles on a Blackberry, how is that even diss-able? How many people could even do that?! Think about it…
    If nothing else, it shows how sick I am wit’ it.
    That’s the journalistic equivalent of a rapper saying he doesn’t write down rhymes.
    It’s all good though. I see the “B tch In Yoo.”

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Bryan Crawford going in…

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    Yeah, welcome back BC, we missed u.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m not, just visiting. Still retired…

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    (1) According to reports, Rondo guarding Bron wasn’t a ploy by Rivers, Rondo actually volunteered on guarding Lebron and Doc just stuck with it. Which makes Rondo = badass.
    (2) For all the people saying that 260/6’9″ > 170/6’1″, remember that Lebron has next to no post up game, and Rajon’s ball pressure is probably the best in the league right now. So now Bron can’t isolate, can’t post-up. Would’ve liked to see some screen and roll action to expose the matchups there but the problem is of course, the Heat’s coaching is limited and Boston’s communication on D is just too good. The C’s got Miami’s number right now.

  • JTaylor21

    Good, stay retired. There’s all ready enough DRose lovers on here.

  • Michael

    thats cold J.

  • http://www.nba.com/heat/ The Angel of Stern

    If I was lebron and rondo was trying to sneak around me to get a look in my teams huddle I would have done more then nudge him …

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    I really hope Bryan stays retired. Even when Diesel/Eboy/NBK argue, there’s still an air of civility that just doesn’t exist when BC is posting. It is truly obvious to anyone with a couple of brain cells.
    Also, everyone who said Kobe wasn’t “done”… perhaps I used a strong word, since I still think Kobe is top-5 in the league. But he’s done being in any type of argument as the best player in the league: his shooting is spotty and his scoring seems more meaningless (I know that’s purely an observation, but it seems when he scores, it has less of an impact, he’s not throwing daggers like usual) and his defense has been ATROCIOUS.
    Point in case: Kobe was getting obliterated by GERALD HENDERSON to the point where they actually had to put Sasha Brown on Henderson, cause he was schooling Kobe so bad.
    Henderson.
    Kobe’s done. He’s gonna be relegated to a second-tier star soon. It happens to everyone, but I think Kobe only has another year or two being considered a top-tier star.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Jukai, Kobe done? Come on man. Stat nerds point out all this crap about him, but do they pay attention to their own advanced stats. Rebound % third highest of his career, assist % second highest of his career, points per minute highest in 4 years, true shooting % and efficiency shooting % up from last year, offensive and defensive rating up over last year. He’s playing fewer minutes than ever. Phil is doing different stuff, he seems to care less about this regular season than ever before. He sits Kobe longer, he waves the white flag earlier in blow out situations. It’s not even about the stats for me, that was for the benefit of other people who care about stats. What I see, is a guy getting healthier who is going to once again dominate the playoffs. Mark it down.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    By the almighty PER is up from 21.9 to 24.9 this year. That’s good for 4th in the league.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    by the way the* king typo.

  • JTaylor21

    I concur, Kobe has about 1-2yrs of being the “main” guy left before he has to hand the keys over to the GCOAT (according to laker fans). I just wonder whether he’s the kind of player that knows that his time of being the top guy is over and accepts a reduced role but I doubt it. The man is too much of a chucker to give up shots that easily, when you take 20 shots and the best set of bigs in the L only take 15, you have a problem, better yet it’s a disease.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Ha! People take shots at me when I don’t even come around anymore and I’m supposed to be “civil”? Negative.
    There’s a ton of “B itch In Yoo” too. More than anybody else here, to be honest. So eff you, your fragile feelings and your female ways.
    Word to Kobe for my potty mouth.
    Happy Valentines Day, sweetie…. Muah!!

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    Of course you concur with that.

  • JTaylor21

    Looks like someone is mad that DRose didn’t send him a rose for valentines.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Bryan: You put up a convincing argument. I’m even shocked that his defensive % is up. Whenever I watch Kobe play, I see him getting creamed on defense this year. It’s the reason why I think he’s really slowing down.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: Either that or he didn’t get a reach around from Rose those time. Or maybe it’s not physical, maybe it’s emotional: Rose is just in it for the sex but BC wants MORE! Rose just leaves BC’s ass bleeding and jets. Which is interesting, since BC always seems like he’s on his period.

  • http://twitter.com/smileyoufckers Bryan

    I know I’m a Kobe fan, so my opinion is a little skewed. He has problems with smaller (Henderson is 6’4, Wade is 6’4) guys. They’re quicker than he is and he can’t recover like he used to. I think he’s been fine against pretty much everyone else I’ve seen him play this year. I mean it’s like Darelle Revis, if someone catches the ball on him it’s a huge deal, those dudes are professionals too. They get paid to catch. These dudes in the NBA get paid to score. They’d drop 100 on anyone you or I know. I’m not saying Kobe is a top defdender(like Revis is) anymore, but it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, you a fool for that one. I almost coughed up a lung reading that last line.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The past few comments were beyond disturbing.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Like I said, the idiocy here is just too much. Implying that Derrick Rose is a homo is somehow dissing me? My god, you dudes are just straight up stupid. It’s a shame. SMDH…
    You both are beyond pathetic. Spooning each other online, BTW, and then implying that someone else is a homo is not a good look.
    But both of you are far too dumb to realize that.
    Morons.

  • Pharoah

    Jukai always comes across that kid who wasn’t loved enough growing up. “See guys i hate to tell you BUT I WAS RIGHT” <– every comment

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    ^^^^^
    Cause generally I am.
    I got a feeling Allenp is the guy who goes to peeps like Myles and BC and says “yeah I can’t believe these kids posting this disgusting stuff” and promptly turns a blind eye whenever BC and Myles say stuff. It’s cute.

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