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Friday, March 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  193 responses

Post Up: Cold Front

Magic ride a wave of hot shooting past Heat, while AK-47 bobbles the night away.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Orlando 99, Miami 96

It all looked kinda familiar, no? As if it’s happened before. Miami comes out strong, looks dominant, then the Magic threaten with a little long ball-field run, then the Heat shut them down on the strength of their insanely talented superstars. (You see!) This time, though, down as many as 24 in the third, Orlando’s threes kept falling as the team made its run, and Miami had no answer on either side of the court. Jason Richardson hit bucket after bucket, ending up with 24 points (and 6 threes), while Dwight Howard cleaned up down low with 14 points and 18 rebounds. The Heat had an opportunity to tie it late, but both Chris Bosh (13 points) and LeBron James (29-6-4) missed open looks before the buzzer sounded. (It was reported later that the play was called for Dwyane Wade, but CB found a decent look a launched away.) Orlando now stands at fourth in the East, separated on both sides by 2.5 games; Miami’s still in second, two games back of Boston.

Denver , Utah

A scrappy, back-and-forth contest before two new-look West squads, this looked over all but wrapped up late in the fourth after Arron Afflalo (19 points) drilled a clutch three to put the Nuggets up two possessions with about 11 ticks to go. But mere seconds later, Devin Harris (21 points) hit a J that put the Jazz down just 2 with around 2 seconds remaining. All Kenyon Martin needed to do was inbound the ball and Denver had the win, but that was apparently easier said than done, because the rock landed right in Andrei Kirilenko’s hands, directly under the hoop. And just when it looked like an easy lay-up would force OT—From that range? With that caliber? Even if you miss, you can’t miss!—AK-47 bobbled the roundball and the clock hit double zeros. Damn. Check the ugly footage below.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    FireSpo.com is cresting on Google trends right now.

  • Scott

    Why was Bosh shooting the three on the last possesion?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Let’s see….where do I start, per a respected opinion, I am offering an apology to Bulls fans for yesterdays outburst. Who would have thought that the Heat would pull the same bullsh*t 24 hours after the Bulls lost in Atlanta? I have a theory though………

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    If the Bulls and the Heat had established, well-defined coaches, they would be the clear favorites in the East. Why? Because their talent levels are better than the rest of the East but I think the two young coaches get caught up in certain moments and don’t respond accordingly. I’m actually trying to be nice to Thibs here because he’s a rookie coach and……

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    @Scott that play was designed for Dwade to get the ball. My question is in all this tight game the Heat play the ball is never in his hands. I’m starting to question if he even wants to take the last shot.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Eric Spoelstra is a f*cking nitwit to the nth degree. I am now officially in the “I Can’t Stand This Useless C**ks*cker” camp now. He is the only coach in the NBA that runs the “prevent offense” when his team holds a double digit lead at halftime/going into halftime. Want proof? Look at the last few games. Magic…kicking their a*s at half. Bulls, playing great with a double digit lead at the half. The Knicks…winning big and then blowing a big lead just before the half. The also had this problem earlier in the season losing to the Jazz like that at home and I know there were a couple of other instances. Sporon CAN NOT…..CAN NOT make half time adjustments, actually the problem is, with a big lead, he doesn’t anticipate the other team making adjustments and as the lead and the momentum starts to evaporate, he sits on his hands with that f*cking big tooted grin on his face and looks like he’s about to go into a diabetic coma. Riley needs to act. NOW. There’s enough time for him to salvage the season. These players need a leader. They don’t have one on the bench, that’ for sure.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    CHOKE47

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Bulls fans love thibs. Wtf are you talking about?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Heatles absolutely SUCK in the clutch and LeBron missing 3 consecutive game-tying 3′s (Chi, NYK, Orl).

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Andrei Kirilenko = clutch!!!!?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    LeBron and Wade no points in the 4th, are you kidding me? That’s not on the coach, when you pay guys a combined 230 million, they’re supposed to deliver sometime (although D-Wade hasn’t gotten the rock in the last seconds) but c’mon.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    How do you go from dominating a half and playing near flawless basketball…to playing like a JV team? Horrible coaching. Sporon is usuless. The only coach in the league that plays “prevent offense” to try and run as much clock as possible to cut down possessions and try to run time. This is an obvious move this jer*off uses and light’s being shed on it now because the competition level is raised.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Thibs > Spo…all day.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Jahmai…I didn’t say he’s not doing a good job, but if the Bulls had Doc Rivers or Gregg Popovich, you don’t think they’d be in a better spot than they currently are? That’s all I’m saying.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Wow! First a black president, and now, an apologetic E-Boy. So E, based on your comments yesterday about Derrick Rose, LeBron’s MVP chances took a hit last night, right? Going 0-2 in the 4th quarter of a 3-pt loss???

  • jwright

    Doesn’t get any easier for the Heat. They have the Spurs tonight. Lucky Parker isn’t playing.

  • MUBWAR

    Last night’s loss falls in the hand of Spolstra. He couldn’t call a timeout to stop the run, he didn’t use Bosh(who had a clear advantage over Bass and Anderson) and another broken play at the end of regulation. None of that falls into the hands of players. Come on Riley stop enjoying the game and come to the bench.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Lebron didn’t dominate the ball in the first half. There was crisp ball movement and Bibby handled a lot in his minutes on the floor. The offense was split between Dwyane and Bron and they were unstoppable, especially when Bron was killing Hedo in the post over and over. Did you ever see Bron in the post again in the second half? From the outset of the half he was brining the ball up regardless of Chalmers or Bibby on the floor. Sporon was trying to keep the ball in his most trusted hands and went away from the gameplan that was incredibly successful in the first half. It was so much a failure of the coaching staff, it was embarrasing.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @KulchaKris, you’re damnright his MVP chances took a hit, after another collapse.
    @Eboy, I don’t know if the Bulls would be better with Doc, because when Doc had a crappy team in Boston, he was a terrible coach, he got the big 3 + Rondo, great coach, besides, who was the defensie mastermind behind those great Celtic teams, that’s right. The Bulls with their depleted roster for most of the season have been overachieving, thanks to Drose and Defense and you might as well spell Defense as Thibodeau.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Kulcha….I said it yesterday….if the Heat don’t finish with the best record in the East, there is no way he even finishes third in the final voting. These latest games ain’t helping his race for a threepeat in any way.

  • mj23

    Eboy – Spo sounds like a broken record. How many times is he gonna say “This will eventually help us” after a horrible loss?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And yes, Lebron missed the final shot again, but it wasn’t by design, Bosh made a terrible decision…this wasn’t the first time he’s put up a late game three that seemed awkward and out of place. I’ll say it again….I hope the Heat don’t have home-court after round 1….they play like dogsh*t at home…or at least can’t finish big lead games at home. They lose focus and never recover. This is a trend…not just a every now and again occurrence.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Deflecting blame helps buffer the self from failures. -Dr. Orange

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    mj23….the dude needs to be investigated as to having a learning disability or a touch of Down’s Syndrome. I’m not trying to be mean to anyone touched with either one of those afflictions, but perhaps they shouldn’t be coaching an NBA franchise…..just saying.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan
  • Jer dawg

    That was pretty funny sequence yesterday. Kenyon Martin made a redeeming play by knocking the ball loose so Andrei couldn’t get easy layup. It looked funny from different angle because it looked like he had butterfingers. Lol @ Kenyon walking off like nothing happened.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And before I forget, I have to give the Magic props for not giving in, playing hard to the end and turning the tide in their favor. All of that without Dwight doing much of anything. The Heat played into their hands in the second half…left their shooters open, kept hedging to double and triple Dwight and scrambling to recover. It didn’t work…..chalk that sh*t up to horrible coaching again.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Don’t worry Heat fans and bandwagoners your team will bounce back.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And after all that bullsh*t and their epic collapse last night, I fully expect them to go into San Antonio tonight, play great and beat them. Then, on Sunday, I expect them to fail again against the Bulls in a similar fashion to last night. I think Spo will be fired on Monday if that happens…at least that’s the rumblings.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    This is going to be an interesting day on SLAM. Karma is a b***h. You know that you have poor coaching when you ran a play for a game winning/tying 3 against the Chicago and it fails. You then run exactly the same play in a similar situation against New York and it equally fails, largely because the guy who shoots that last shot is not your best option to shoot that shot. And now, once again, you ran a play that does not get the ball to your best option and you settle for very low % desperation shots. The only positive here is the humbling of Eboy who gets after every other contender’s fans whenever they so much as have a bad night.

  • Playa

    Whenever LeBron f**ks up it’s either the fault of his teammates or his coach or some shit… Gimme a f@#kin’ break…Maybe JRich and the Magic were too hot to handle, especially when it mattered most… Maybe LeBrick is not as clutch as the Kobes and ‘Melos etc… Maybe -at least light night – the Magic just wanted it more and were too clutch…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh yeah….and I’m not done….can I just say that Riles fu*ked up in cutting free Mike Beasley. If he was playing of the bench for them, they’d have a great scoring option and a dude that can get his own shot. At this point, he may have been the better option then spending the money on Posh….at a much reduced rate of pay too.

  • mj23

    Eboy – How much longer do you think Riley will put up with Spo? I think Heat may be need Riley to take over at this point. A collapse like this would never happen with a Riley team. Blowing a 24 point lead at home is inexcusable. At least the Bulls did it on the road.

  • Adam

    Yeah, cause being the top defense in the league and being near the top of your conference in your first season as a head coach is an awful result. Lay off Spo too. It sickens me that fans always call for the coaches head. At the end of the day its the guys on the court who have to go out and do their jobs. I don’t believe that spo draws up plays in the end game for lebron to catch the ball and pound it to death either.

  • Scott

    If Miami continues with the excellent play against teams with winning records this could get real ugly in the next two weeks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Wow after watching that final Miami possession Mike Miller totally looked off Dwade. Dwade came to the ball. He wanted the last shot,but Miller gave the ball to Bosh for the open three. I take back what I said about Dwade not wanting the ball in the final seconds.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    LeBron and Wade played an incredible first half because they were off the ball scorers. In the second half, Spo made Wade and Bron the ballhandlers for an unknown reason. That killed the Heat. Gotta give Dwight credit top cause the Heat “swarmed” him all night and instead of forcing shots, he racked up 5 assists. The reason the Magic hit all those 3′s is because of the weird defensive rotations of Spo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Nick, I’m not being humble….unlike everyone else that has rooting interest in their particular teams, I tell it like it is when the team sucks. I don’t make excuses about poor officiating and sh*t like that. When your team has a sh*t night (or in the Heats case, a sh*t week right now)you have to deal with and not bullsh*t yourself into thinking “if only”. Squash that. They played a great first half and a horrible second half…led be poor coaching….no production from their three stars and a complete collapse by the rest of the players (well, except Dampier, who played well all game). Fair enough?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Caboose is smart.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Thanks E, I can feel your pain. SVG has some of those panic moments where he just goes away from the game plan that’s working. I remember hearing the announcers at the start of the 3rd say that Spo would try to force feed Bosh to get him going. Well, they tried and that failed. Just more bad coaching.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    @Adam, you’re right to a certain extent. In the end, players are responsible for what happens on the court. But, it’s a coach’s job to put his players in a position to do what they do best, and design strategies that increase the likelihood of success. Is it Spo’s fault that his two best players went 0-6 in the 4th quarter? No, but he has to bear some of the responsibility for the Heat’s failure in close games this season.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    Why are the Heat fans terrible? You don’t leave when you are up 20 in the first half. The empty seats were laughable.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    @Eboy whats up with Bosh? I understand he’s never been that physical type of big man who likes contact.That’s why I’m assuming why he didnt attack Brandon Bass and Ryan Anderson off the dribble. Clearly his first step is quicker than those two can react to. But where are the rebounds?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Nicholas….it was a beautiful last night down here. Who am I kidding, the majority of fans here are nitwits.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Miami has a perfect schedule right now, they can totally redeem themselves, SA twice, Bulls, Portland(not too shabby), Lakers.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    That’s why Eboy is that dude…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Stepfan, I think it’s been talked about around here for a little while that it’s possible he’s playing on an undisclosed injury that’s making him seem worse and more frail than he really is. Dude was playing well for a while, but for a couple of weeks now, he looks like Mark Blount or someone like that. It’s pretty sad.

  • MUBWAR

    Like I said a couple months ago. I don’t how Spo has a coaching job and guys that are way more qualified Like JVG are announcers on TV.

  • Adam

    @KulchaKris, yes your correct, it is the coaches job to get players in positions to score, can’t really argue that except with then the players have to get it done. I’m not really sure of the reason LeBron gets it at the three point line and doesn’t at least attempt the drive and kick, a-la the donyell marshall missed three that he got killed for years ago. Who ever questioned heats defensive rotations, their third in the league in opp 3pt%, they must be doing something right. You cant really account for someone getting hot.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    @Nicolas Fleming Has the Heat arena ever been sold out? They have two of the top players in the League and their arena is never packed. I just don’t understand it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    LULZ.

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    @Stepfan, didn’t every game sell out? I mean that’s why they let all of their ticket reps go before the season started right? They are obviously getting the money. What happened to the Heat fans all dressed in white for the championship run? Those jokers were serious about basketball.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Is Myles trying to convey the well-known LOLZ or saying lulz like “the Heat seem to have these lulz on offense”?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Whatever works.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    FWIW, I think the Heat will be fine. Still, the problems with the way that it came together down there is simple: DWade and LeBron have each deferred to the point that there is no hierarchy. There is no clear cut “Man” on that team.
    I know that people like to throw around the Jordan/Pippen example, but MJ was unquestionably the man on those Bulls squads, and Pip, even though he was great in his own right, was a role player. He did the little things, the dirty work so to speak.
    The same with the Lakers during their championship runs earlier in the 00′s. Shaq was clearly the man and Kobe was not, even though he thought he was and wanted to be. Still, everything ran through Shaq and they experienced success.
    Those teams had an order and that’s the way championship teams are constructed. There must be order in all things.
    Unless either Wade or Bron is willing to completely defer and fall back, Miami will continue to be a very good but ultimately, not great squad.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I’ll go with the second one for the hell of it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Craw, it also helped that Phil Jackson was at the helm of both those squads too.

  • Playa

    Why is it that every time LeBron chokes it’s either his teammates or coach’s fault??? Why can’t people admit that maybe the other team played better when it mattered…Couldn’t it be that JRich and the Magic -at least last night- were just too hot when it mattered… Couldn’t it be that LeBrick isn’t as clutch as Kobe or ‘Melo?? Come on, gimme a break… Stop makin excuses for this guy and give credit where it’s due…

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    Obviously Spo isn’t the guy with the strongest of personalities to lay it down flat and set who is #1 and who is #2 on that team, E.
    But I don’t even think it matters.
    Somebody’s ego is going to make that a tough situation for any coach to deal with because how do you do it?
    You’ve got 2 great offensive players on the same team, so how do you tell them that one has to fall back?

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Co-sign Bryan. But doesn’t that speak a bit to E’s point about Spoelstra? The kind of hierarchy a great team needs is often put in place by the coach. Especially if the players can’t seem to figure it out for themselves. In your Bulls example, MJ defined the hierarchy by his sheer force of will. Kobe wanted to do the same during the Shaq years, but lacked the personality to do so. And now, LBJ and Wade are bumping into each other, and Spo doesn’t have the gravitas to chart the necessary course.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    It should be as easy as letting Bron build a lead with the ball in his hand most of them time…then it tight spots, let Dwyane create and handle. It seems easy to me. Apparently the learned simpleton running the squad hasn’t figured that out yet.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    hahahaha, whew

  • http://www.redraidersports.com Nicolas Fleming

    E, you’re right, but it’s got to be tough to let one of those guys know they aren’t the No. 1 option in crunch time.

  • Playa

    Stop makin excuses for LeBron… It’s simple: LeBrick and the Heat choked; JRichn was clutch… Why is it everytime this guy chokes it’s always the fault of his teammates or his coach??? The Cavs got that ass waxed by the Celtics last year in the EC Semis and everyone was like, Bron was distracted, his teammates suck and shit… Now he’s on a friggin super team and people still findin excuses… Gimme a break…

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Dammit, Eboy apologized.
    Oh well…back to bed….
    Nah, on all seriousness though, Frank Sinatra said it best.
    “It can happen to you”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    To be young at heart?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    But seriously the best part of last night is when LeBron threw the ball at Bosh’s dome. I probably spent 5 minutes watching that over and over. Click name for the link.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Damn you, Eboy. hehe.
    Coming in here, deflecting the arrows off your lawyer shield before they could even get flung.
    Now what am i gonna do with all this popcorn i made?
    Guess i gotta wait till Diesel gets here and rekindles your special bond you both built yesterday.
    The dangers of these internetz: overanalysing.every.single.game.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    E, I think it’s obvious that the spotlight can’t be shared in crunch time. You’ve got to pick a guy and roll with him every single time.
    You cant do it by committee even though a lot of people thought that it could be done that way, but it just doesn’t work. That much should be crystal by now.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Man, KMart/Kirilenko was hilarious.
    Andrei is so long but dude still acts like a guard at times. if he had elevated without that one dribble, probably would have finished better at the rim with a bit more time to go.

  • http://www.slamonline.com KulchaKris

    Dark just stole my thunder. We tend to read too much into each win/loss for some teams. Lakers, Heat, etc. The Heat are on pace to win 58 games. As a Wizards fan, I would take that any day. If the Heat falter in the playoffs, then we’ll know they just weren’t good enough. Remember, the Lakers lost 7 of their last 9 games going into the playoffs last year. See how that worked out….

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Stop blaming the coaching. Last year it was Mike Brown now its Spoelstra. This is the only team whose coach always gets the most blame instead of the 100 million dollar players it has. Its not Spo fault that Lebron did not have a pt., reb., or assist on the fourth quarter. Lebron is the most talented player but he has proven lately that he is not the best. He missed free throw vs Boston and has been a constant snowball effect since. Fact is:
    HEAT SUCK!!!!!!

  • T-Money

    There is no loss in March that can make or break a team. These games matter simply because Miami would like to get Orlando in the 2nd round instead of Chicago or Boston. BUT there are some deeper issues on this team: 1- Chalmers, Jones, Anthony should not play anymore. After 60 games, they have proven beyond reasonable doubt that they can’t contribute to a contending team. Put Juwan Howard as a placeholder until UD comes back, it doesn’t make sense to play Bron out of position for James freaking Jones. 2- Mike Bibby should play 32-35 minutes every game. His mere presence on the floor in the first half allowed Bron and Wade to attack the basket and not worry about setting up guys. 3- Miami has to stop “swarming” or double-teaming every post play and every high screen. Orlando figured it out in the 3rd quarter and had a guy open for a 3 in the corner almost every possession. (btw, it usually is Dwyane’s guy).

  • MUBWAR

    the Heat need a coach that excels in half court execution and Spo is not it. Come on 60 games into the regular season and he is still around

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    Well based from that press conference last night we know who the “Man” is on that team. Lebron wasnt trying to answer any questions.

  • T-Money

    4- We have to dead the Big 3 thing. It’s a dynamic duo – CB is a role player on this team and his role is to knock down the 15 footer and control the glass on the defensive end. It is what it is. If things really go wrong, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him traded for a guy like Nenê this summer. 5- Spo gets NO RESPECT from the players. The fact that Chris Bosh feels okay with throwing a 3 with 8 seconds to go is all you need to know. BC: The Spurs do it by committee. It’s often Manu but not all the time. The Celtics too. It’s often Pierce but Ray Ray gets a lot of looks at the end of games. Besides, Bron has been their “man” more often than not. The game was not lost in the final minute, anyways.

  • T-Money

    Kap: Some Heat fans were questioning Spo LAST YEAR. And even before the season, he was considered a Mike Brown clone (guy who started out in the video room and made his way up, really hard worker, preaches defense all the time and prepares his team well, ZERO feel for subs patterns and in-game decisions). And J-Rich was all over that play in the corner for D-Wade, it’s not the first time Spo has used it.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    The Spurs don’t do it by committee. Manu is the closer. The same thing in Boston, everything goes through Paul Pierce.
    It doesn’t matter if other guys hit big shots or not, the closer is the guy who has the ball in his hands in late game situations. Period.

  • T-Money

    BC: then how can you argue that it’s not Bron on Miami – regardless of if it’s working or not? When has he not had the ball in the end?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Well PJ will be available this summer. I’m pretty sure he will be at least tempted with Miami even though Riley hates his guts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Stepfan

    But Lebron has not been clutch in a Miami Heat uniform at the end of ball games. (Except from what I can recall in that Pacers game in Miami Clutch free throws and big shots to increase the lead.) I just think Lebron can’t handle the pressure. He doesnt want the ball at the end of tight games. That’s one of the main reasons why he left Cleveland so he wouldnt have to handle all the pressure by himself. You have a wide open jay to tie the game, why in the world would you fade away on your shot. Square up and shoot the ball with confidence. Cleary he hasnt done that in tight games. But nevertheless he is still a phenomenal player.

  • Bruno

    I’ve said since bosh went to miami what T-Money said in #4

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Cawford

    At what point did I even say who the closer was or wasn’t, or who should have the ball late or not?
    There have been games when DWade has had the ball late and the same with Bron.
    My argument is that it has to be one guy, ALL THE TIME and you cant flip-flop. That being the case, one person has to WILLINGLY defer to the other in those situations.
    And if you perceive LeBron to be the closer while at the same time your perception says that it’s not working, then maybe DWade should be the guy late in games.

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    Im pretty sure i heard Eboy promise a W yesterday… and another thing, why do all Bron fans decide to blame everyone EXCEPT Lebron for Miami’s losing? Correct me if im wrong, but Bron missed the open 3 at the end right? and LOL @ Chris Bosh… making it easier for us Raptors fans to hate u every single game

  • T-Money

    Stepfan: uh, because that’s how he shoots every shot including all of his makes in the first half? / Kap: that would be just… wow. Larry Brown is also available. JVG… lots of guys.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Never said that, Melo….you can look it up.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    He says he’s done but I think his motive is to get to South Beach. But time will tell.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Larry Brown would kill Lebron. It’s obvious Lebron doesn’t run things the way his coaches want so Larry Brown is definitely not the guy for Miami. They need a players coach.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011 Diesel

    Don’t worry, no unnecessary mocking is coming from me. Heat had the game won up 20, got lazy, and lost it. The exact same thing happened to the Bulls. Me saying Bron ruined his MVP contender status because of it is as stupid as anyone saying Rose is less of an MVP because of two nights ago. I will say that anyone worried about the Bulls road record and dismissing them because of it should be more worried about the Heat’s record against elite teams. That’s not even a jab, just an issue that needs to be addressed so they can have some sort of mental edge heading into the playoffs. Have a good weekend fellas.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I think a team can win at the end of games by committee but they have to compliment each other which Wade and Lebron do not at the moment because they are basically the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses .

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    I hate that this game was on a Thursday, everyone is geared up for the wknd and apologetic and happy and I wanted blood.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    That was a great game! Wade and Bron just went off in the first half. Really fun to watch! but then what the hell happened? i mean i’m sure Spo had a thing or 2 to do with it but he can’t prevent Bron from not doing sh*t. And the Bosh 3 was a good look. Nothing wrong with that shot… UNLESS you have DWade on your team. Get Wade the ball in the clutch!!!!

  • T-Money

    Kap: Maybe that’s exactly what LeBron need? He was phenomenal playing off the ball for Team USA.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t understand why the Miami players totally ignore the offense they run throughout the majority of games, I’m pretty convinced that there is no way Spoelstra calls for isolation after isolation. LeBron & Wade needs to get their confidence in check, play team basketball, they will still end up with the majority of the shots and possessions, just will get the ball in better spots with a better chance at scoring.

  • JTaylor21

    What’s with all the talk about Wade not getting shots to end the game? People act like he’s a great 3pt shooter to begin with neither is bron so I don’t understand why Pacquiao’s cutman continues to run plays for him to take those 3s.
    There’s a reason why guys like MMiller, JJones, EHoue, and now Bibby are on the team; Too take and make 3pts shots regardless of how good Bron and Wade are.
    I’m not with the crowd that always wants the best player taking every last shot because it’s the sexy thing to do, I’m with those you agree that you look for the best possible shooter at that very moment. It’s the same thing Bos does when they need a three, they don’t go to Rondo or KG because they are their best players, they look for Allen or PP because they are the best 3pt shooters, there’s a big difference.
    Doc Rivers doesn’t do favoritism when it comes to last second shots and that’s why Bos is so good in the clutch.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    T-Money Posted: Mar.4 at 10:32 am was exactly what Jukai has been saying since November 15th at 10:32.
    I read the Miami Heat team like a book. I don’t want to go all Philosopher on you (I’M RIGHT I’M RIGHT LOOK AT ME) but, well, I’m gonna go all Philosopher on you.
    Stop running James at the four (if you look, that’s when the team loses steam), stop running Joel Anthony when there’s a dominant bigman in (Big Z didn’t play great, but at least there wasn’t ten bajillion offensive rebounds), stop running James Jones period (three years watching him in Phoenix, I knew he would go cold. I KNEW IT), and most importantly: stop saying Spo should be fired. He can’t be fired. The playoffs are too close. I said he should have been fired in December. You can’t fire him now, it just wont work. Perhaps you can promote Rothstein to head coach, but I very much doubt that would even be wise.
    And I know Spo deserves the big portion of the blame for changing the lineup that the Heat used to make a big lead and put in players who don’t make sense (MILLER IS A ROLE PLAYER! If he’s not making shots don’t have him in the 4th!) but hey, time to start blaming Wade and Lebron. Lebron has played HORRIBLE these fourth quarters, his mental toughness has taken a toll. He’s not bothering to create, he’s trying to be the “MAN” ala Kobe. He’s not Kobe. He’s Magic. Stop going five-on-one, Lebron, you’re not GOOD enough to go five-on-one. Pass!
    Wade had played poorly period in every big game. Whenever the Heat start losing their leads, he starts chucking these turnaround baseline 15-footers. Why? You were 10-12 on drives, why are you chucking these shots now? Once again, Wade, you’re not Kobe. You’re the best finisher in the game. Force the issue!

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    And even though I don’t think anyone even WATCHED this game: Utah and Denver both look ugly. Damn. Denver has a rock solid cast but no star so they don’t close out games tough. Utah just looks out of sorts, period.
    Also, I wish the playoff race in the West would just sort itself out. I’m tired of caring about phoenix games because they can still make the playoffs, even though they barely have a chance. Blef.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    LOLZ.

  • JTaylor21

    Jukai, I think all that criticism he got from passing it to EHouse for the GW in OKC has gotten into his head.
    Players can talk all they want about not letting what others say get into their head but at the end of the day they are humans like everyone else.
    Every single day of you hearing about how you’re afraid to take the last shot is bound to have an affect on a person.
    I do agree with you that it’s too late in the season for Spo to be fired but you do have to admit that the moron lacks the ability to make in-game adjustments.
    At the beginning of the second half, the magic decided that they wouldn’t let Bron abuse Hedo in the block, so they started to send double teams as soon as he got down there but it seemed like Spo didn’t adjust to that move.
    Instead of making either Bibby or Wade the player that feeds it into bron in the post therefore making it harder for Orl to double team him, he turned Bron into a ball-handler.
    The same ish happened in Bos when the Celtics Rondo guarded him, he foolishly made Bron his primary ball-handler.
    Also why did they decide to take Wade off the block after he was abusing the Magic’s SG all first half?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    You all can just look at my 8:56a comment and work off of that to save yourselves the trouble of dissecting.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Anybody on South Beach know the Heimlich?
    That was sad. Watched the whole game, and it was crazy how the Heat abandoned everything that worked for them to find a way to lose that game. Just crazy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    So who’s fault was it Allen? Coach or players? No PC answer “it’s got to be split between them” accepted.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Hey Myles, what do you think about K Love’s possible shiny new contract extension?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Co-sign Kap’s comment at 10:31.
    LeBron was tearing up Orlando’s D in the 1st half and it’s not like he never touched the ball in the 4th, he just couldn’t get anything going, that’s not on the coach. If Miami ever wins a championship it’s all on LeBron & Wade, but when they lose it’s ALL on the coach, that’s bs. After struggling with the Knicks for a long time Pat Riley realized the Lakers succes had more to do with Magic, Kareem, Worthy than him. Don’t get me wrong, a coach is important, but when you have the 2-time MVP, the best player in the world in James and Wade who is top 3 and Bosh an all-star and you’re in it every last minute, they need to pull out a win.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Think I need to see a new CBA first. Doubt there will be 6 year contracts. And I doubt he’ll sign it either. He wants to win, not count money.

  • T-Money

    I swear you guys are schizos. Bron is the only guy that is criticized for hogging the ball AND passing the ball BY THE SAME CRITICS. He dominates the ball AND defers too much, really?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Eboy your convinced Spoelstra is behind Miami abandoning their offense in the second half/4th quarter of games? That just defies logic to me that a coach would abandon something that is overwhelmingly working, it has to be Wade and James playing improv offense

  • T-Money

    Starting the 3rd quarter by tryin to establish CB at all costs was also a critical mistake by Spo. He’s a role player, and your two superstars had it going – who cares about his touches when you’re up 20, let him fit in wherever he can.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com LeKingsMan

    Miami has already won 7 championships and held the celebration in advance. So whether or not they win an actual championship is irrelevant. Miami celebrated its championship in advance and other teams or bitter fans can’t take that away from them. I can still picture Bosh screaming in joy as he won his 7th championship and there was LeBron, knowing to play it cool and act like he’s won championships before.

    And if there is any doubt about who the greatest champion is, just consider:

    LeBron – 7 championships
    Jordan – 6
    Kobe – 5

    In the modern era, is there a bigger champion than LeBron?

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    That was not the typically angry, cynical Myles comment I was hoping for to jump start my day =(

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    T-Money: Aw c’mon dude, you know me and JTaylor ALWAYS defended Lebron for passing and deferred it. Bryan Crawford is now defending Lebron for taking these bigtime shots, but I’ve never thought that was Lebron’s game. Lebron is a decision maker, not a game-shot winner. He’s Magic Johnson, not Michael Jordan.
    So obvs we’re gonna be disappointed he’s trying to chuck these threes instead of settling for the best shot. We’re not hypocrites, dude.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    It’s not a PC answer.
    LeBron and Wade never shook their team out of its funk after the first half. Wade abandoned any semblance of defense (How the hell does his man get open on damn near every play?) and LeBron started pounding the ball like he was driving nails.
    In the first half, the ball moved from side to side, the entire team was in motion, or they quickly attacked a mismatch. In the second half, they stood around watching, took forever to get into their sets, and were constantly settling for long jumpers late in the shot clock. It was UGLY basketball.
    That’s on the coach and on the players. I can’t imagine that the coach was ok with them refusing to play defense, I can’t imagine he told them to all play as ball stoppers. So the player clearly ignored him.
    That means they bear a lot of responsibility.
    BUT, he’s the FREAKING coach. If he can’t convince the players to respect his wishes and follow his gameplan, then something is wrong. And since he doesn’t have the pedigree of Phil Jackson, he doesn’t get Phil’s pass. Bottom line, dude has to figure out how to get his team to play to their potential for entire games and stop doing idiotic stuff. I don’t know if he can.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk, I’m not convinced, I was guaranteed it from someone I know. There’s a difference. Spo is fu*cking up with the pressure mounting. Let me ask you a question? Who did Lebron respond to when they sat down and tried to convince him to come to Miami? Who pulled out the bag of championship rings to tantalize Bron, convincing him that HE could build the roster that could be a dynasty. You can bet your stat-filled ass that it wasn’t the Simpleton. For all the whispers that this particular group of players don’t want to play FOR Riley, do you think those whispers go away if they flame out in the second round? These cats don’t really respect Spo, and his continued bungling of these big games, late game failures, momentous collapses ain’t winning him fans.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Barkley had the dumbest analysis ever of the Heat when he said they need a third superstar. Really?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    T-Money
    I disagree. Bosh needs to be more involved in the offense, and he was clearly doing his thing against Bass and Anderson when isolated. True, he settles for the jumper, but I think that the Heat’s biggets problem is not understanding that he can be a very, VERY good big man for them, and using him more.
    Dude put up 24 and 12 last year against the exact same big men he’s facing this year. Now, he looks like he might be nursing some injury, but he still has an amazing first step, amazing jumper and good finishing skill.
    Spoelstra needs to make it clear to his players what they should be doing, and then he needs to follow up on his instructions. And the players need to listen, or they need to sit. That’s coaching. Not this crappy pampering and “feeling” things out. Create a gameplan, institute the gameplan, demand that players follow the gameplan. And then live with the results.

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    @Eboy at the very beginning…why do you always blame the coach EVERYTIME the Heat lose?? He is actually doing a great job as far I’m concerned, the Heat are second in the East right now. Give the man some credit. Even without Bron and Bosh before he coached this Heat team to the play-offs right?? It’s not like he’s the one responsible for Orlando’s 24 pt comeback. He’s not guarding Richardson either. And it’s official…Lebron aint clutch! Nuff said.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    And yes, Allen, you’re right, the players bear part of the blame for the collapse last night, but damn all that, eventually, when it keeps happening, TIME AND TIME AND TIME again, at the most rudimental level of basketball, it goes back on the coaching. The players can freelance all they want and look like ball hogs when they do it. When the structures there for them to follow, that perception of hero ball goes away.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I have seen nothing to convince me that Chris Bosh is not a superior player to any other third wheel on every other team in the league, except maybe San Antonio.
    Dude is a great third option, but he needs to be given chances to succeed, instead of chances to fail. I like that he took that three. Yes, it wasn’t the greatest shot, but he was open. He can hit that shot. He’s a better three point shooter than Bron and Wade. Take the damn shot.
    The problem is you need to get him more touches throughout the game. Miami needs to stop taking so long to run their damn offense. They aren’t the Celtics. They don’t want to play in the 90s. They want to play against defenses before they get set in the halfcourt.

  • T-Money

    Jukai: He’s not Michael and he’s certainly not Magic. Seriously, why do we need to put dudes in neat boxes? He’s not a point guard, he’s a scoring 3 with phenomenal court vision. Bron is a scorer, I know it doesn’t fit the narrative but that’s what he is first and foremost: an on the ball scorer who also happens to be a pretty good playmaker. He’s the second leading scorer in the league and the leading scorer of his team, forget that Magic Johnson stuff, he’s not a point guard! / He didn’t “chuck” a 3, he took a wide-open 3 with 4 seconds to go. Can’t be mad at that, that play was not even ran for him.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Fire Spo! Snatch VDN from the Clips! Dude is a master at late-gsame situations.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Blame the coach? Lebron didn’t have a pt.,reb, or assist in the 4th. It’s not the coaches fault the players are not doing what he says. What is he suppose to do bench Lebron? When will people realize that Lebron MAY be uncoachable? There are too many egos on that team and they expect teams to lie down to them. They thought this year would be a cake walk and they constantly fold when teams fight back.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Shout out to Noah “Ryan” Leaf for the name drop…
    And yes, I defend LeBron for taking big shots and will continue to do so.
    If you’re comfortable with putting the game in a lesser players hands when the game is on the line, then I just have to SMH.

  • T-Money

    Allen: “Create a gameplan, institute the gameplan, demand that players follow the gameplan. And then live with the results.” Spo can’t do that. Plain and simple.

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    where the F is my comment??

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You can stick your head up a butcher’s a** wait, you can stick your head up a bulls a** but i’d rather take the butchers word for it, anyone can slap a phrase on the box and call it a guarantee. – But for real, I feel you though, and have personally been against Spoelstra as this teams coach since 2008, I mean really he has never won a playoff series, or even had homecourt in one, now he’s gonna coach a team to a championship? But its too late in the season, I hear they really don’t want to play for Riley, but also don’t want to play for Spoelstra either, JVG is the name I consistently hear as an inevitable replacement. YOu hear anything like that?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    So when Bosh doesn’t get involved in the offense its the coaches fault but when Gasol doesn’t get the ball its the players fault? So when Bron and Wade neglect the offense and freelance its the coaches fault but when Kobe does the same its his fault? Very interesting…

  • mj23

    Heat = 2 and 1/2 Men

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    The structure was there early. The offense looked crisp, they were getting easy shots.
    Why does everybody assume it’s the coach’s fault when LeBron turns into LeDribble?
    C’mon son. Dude did this exact same thing in Cleveland. I said the same thing back then, maybe, just maybe, the teams do this because Lebron likes doing it. We know Wade likes doing it.
    As a coach, you have to be able to crack some heads, hold people accountable. I don’t see that, and that’s the biggest failing. There is no way any role player on that team continues to play if they commit as many turnovers and defensive lapses as Wade. There is no way a role player plays if he fails to run the offense as often as LeBron. There is no way a role player could ball watch as much as Bosh.
    Double standards sap the life out of a team.

  • T-Money

    Allen: wait, he’s a better 3-point shooter than Bron and Wade? Are you high? / Jukai: I’m not obsessed with superstars taking the last shot, I just want them to make the right play. Basically, put the ball in their hands and trust them to find a good shot for your team. I’m cool with what Rose did for example vs Miami – he found an open shooter.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Kap, while you are a moron, all I can say to you without insult, is what you wrote would be all well and good if the Heat were playing .550 ball for the season or didn’t have the opportunity to win their conference. Those things still have a chance of happening, so your stupidity is on full display. Thanks for playing though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    .500 ball

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kap
    What the hell are you talking about?
    I blame Kobe when Gasol doesn’t get the ball, or Gasol’s teammates because typically they are the ones refusing to pass he and Bynum the ball on the block in favor of some dumb jumper. You must have me confused with someone else.
    And I blamed LeBron and Wade for failing to run the offense, just like LeBron suddenly abandoned that nice cutting offense Mike Brown installed in Cleveland.
    Are you actually reading what I wrote, or are you talking to someone else?
    Players make their own choices on the floor. When they play for good to great coaches, they make the choices their coach wants them to make the majority of the time. When they play for bad coaches they don’t.
    Spoelstra isn’t good or bad. He’s mediocre. And his team, against equal or superior talent, plays like a mediocre team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    nbk, when I said I had a “guarantee”, it’s from someone withing the organization I know, not some random blogger or some dumb sh*t like that.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Bryan: Haven’t been called Ryan Leaf since my time on my High School basketball team, thanks for the memory Bryan, haha.
    I wasn’t bad mouthing you though. I actually don’t want to bad mouth you at all because you’ve been INCREDIBLY thoughtful and respectful in the Post Up recently, you’ve been moving the conversation and you’ve added a lot to the debates. Just like I totally changed my tone around JTaylor, I’m going to do the same to you because I appreciate you actively toning things down for the sake of the comment section, it deserves to be noted.
    I was merely saying while you love LeBron taking the last shot, I am still not necessarily against Lebron FINDING the best shot for a teammate. If the team needs a three, I’d prefer the Miller miss in Boston to a Lebron miss… although, I will say, they were good shots and it was a broken play (at least two of the three times) so I can’t hate too much.
    I’m just not always a fan of Lebron taking the last shot in every situation. Once again, he’s not Kobe. He can’t get his shot off on every single angle on the floor. He’s also not Bird, he can’t always get to that perfect spot. He’s much more (SORRY T-MONEY!!!!) like Magic or Nash, who create first and shoot when they feel it’s the best possible option.
    And i wonder if Lebron’s gonna change that cause of the criticism he’s gotten.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Rose was going to shoot that shot until he saw Luol open in the corner. He made a great decision, but that was the play and the plan..

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    t-Money
    Maybe I’m wrong about that. But, I honestly feel more comfortable with Chris Bosh taking a catch and shoot three pointer than either Bron or Wade. Now, off the dribble, those two would win. But, on a kick out, I’m not mad at Bosh taking that shot instead of pump faking and looking for Bron or Wade. The shot came early in set, which was the smart play, and he caught it in rhythm with no hesitation. They need him to be comfortable taking those type of shots.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I know I figured that out E, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to butcher a Tommy Boy line.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Eboy, don’t go comparing Thibs to Spo now (I just seen that).
    Thibs is a first-year coach yes, but he’s already miles ahead of Spo as far as I’m concerned.
    Let’s not forget, Thibs got his first assistant coaching job in the NBA when Spo was 19 years old, probably smoking his first joint or finally getting to second base somewhere as a University of Portland freshman.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Preciate that Jukai…
    Personally, I get heated when LBJ puts the game in someone else’s hands. Ain’t no such thing as halfway crooks. If you’re gonna take over, then do it all the way.
    No, he’s not Kobe or MJ, but that his little to do with him being the man at the end. He has the ability.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Enig with the win at 12:41!
    I gotta bounce guys, keep on fighting the good fight

  • JTaylor21

    A kobe sheep talking about Bron being uncoachable? The Greatest coach of all-time wrote an entire book detailing just how much a pain in the neck Kobe is and the biggest reason for why one of the greatest teams of all-time split up and you have to nerve to brand someone else uncoachable. Oh the f*cking irony.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @Allenp…I was not referring to you. I don’t know why you thought that. That was directed towards Eboy and Jtaylor. @ Eboy…You are right they are below .500 against the good teams that matter. So your stupidity is on full display.
    Who cares how they play against the Buck or Pistons. Its about how they play against the good team.

  • JTaylor21

    I think Kap just runs around injecting Kobe’s name into every heat debate just to try and reel in someone who’s willing to argue the age old, tiresome why “Kobe’s better than Bron debate”. Give it up already, no one out side of LA cares anymore about who’s better anymore. That fight has already been fought a million times, please come up with something original.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    F*ck that, Bron is uncoachable like a motherf*cker.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    JTyalor
    I think the word you’re looking for is incongrous, not irony, or ironic.
    Irony involves intentional humor by using words to suggest their opposite meaning.
    Incongruity involves contradictory ideas and behavior.
    So, unless Kap was intentionally describing Kobe as coach loving, teammate first player while knowing that is a crock of BS, then he wasn’t using irony, nor were his comments ironic.
    Instead, they were just completely ridiculous.
    Glad to help

  • http://bulls.com airs

    heres an original debate: who’s hairline is now pushed back further, Kobe or LeBron?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kap – Its a proven fact that you learn more about a team from looking at how they play against lesser competition in the regular season. Not saying to do that, but the point your arguing is already a proven fallacy, games against good teams in the regular season have almost ZERO effect on the playoffs. Total body of work, and score differential will tell you more then Miami’s record against teams above .500, just for your information.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    All I’m saying is that you can’t heap all the blame on the coach, or on the players.
    Clearly, the executed the gameplan early and were KILLING the Magic. It was almost unfair.
    Then they stopped.
    The question is why is they stopped, and why they couldn’t get started again.
    It’s a trust thing. The players don’t trust each other or their coaches completely. It’s not that unusual.

  • JTaylor21

    AllenP. good looking out. Looks like that public school education failed me yet again. That’s why I’m blowing thousands going to college in the hope that it helps. It does help right? Or am I throwing my money down the drain?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    No, I put Kobe in to show how much of a double standard you guys give Lebron. You Bron slurpers never give him hardly any blame and constantly blame Wade, Spo, Bosh, and the supporting cast. Do I think Kobe is still the best player in the nba? Some nights I do but I think D12 has surpassed everyone for that honor but I’m more of a Laker fan than Kobe fan so I could care less who the best player is.

  • MUBWAR

    I love how Lebron brought all that attention to a Heat team that never got any. On Wednesday, there were 10 games but only about 50 posts in here but the Heat lose a game and there is a gazillion comments on this team. Sometimes I wonder If Bosh and Wade could have all by themselves.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Its also sad when someone talks about a team different from Miami, the slurpers come out and say they are tired of talking about the same topics and then turn the comment section into the “Heat fan club” section. Its the heat fans who go around here talking ish and berating everyone so I’m gonna do my best to rattle you guys feathers when your idols lose.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Chris Bosh released this statement in regards to LeBron James’ errant pass that hit him in the dome -

    “C’mon, that is how guys get hurt, that is how serious injuries happen. You’ve got to watch people’s heads. I know guys want to pass and everything but we all want to play and provide for our families and have a job.
    We all want to be healthy and that is very important.
    If it is by somebody’s head, don’t pass the ball, it’s too close.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com AllDayEveryDay

    Bryan Crawford,
    how the hell was Pippen a role player? Yes MJ was the ‘MAN’ on the team, but how the HELL does that mean Pippen’s a role player. I didn’t know if you were the guy who guards the best player, causes the most havoc with help defense, initiate and run the Offense, score 20 and grab boards, and being a top3 wing in the league meant your a role player… Some HUGE role I guess. Pippen was a 2nd banana but a SUPERSTAR, not a role player

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    1. Kobe’s hairline is clearly in the middle of his head right. LeBron is losing on the corners, but Kobe created an extra forehead.
    2. College is cool. So was public school. Plus, most people mess up irony. I do it too.
    3. Bron gets just as much hate as he does praise. So does Kobe. Anybody who hasn’t noticed that side effect of being considered “the best” hasn’t been paying attention.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with AllDay.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    kobe’s barber does a pretty good job making it look almost natural. and lebrons head band just keeps moving higher and higher every year, its about to pop off.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Alanis Morissette messed up the hell outta irony.
    Pretty ironic that someone who wrote a song called “Ironic” doesn’t know the meaning of the word.
    Wait…did I use “ironic” correctly??

  • http://bulls.com airs

    i think you might’ve just alanis morissetted your use of irony

  • JTaylor21

    Enigmatic, that was a good one. Looks like the entire Chicago fanbase is dancing in joy that the bulls didn’t sign Bosh last summer.
    Anyways, how do you see tonight’s game vs the Magic going? Noah for all the great things he brings to a team, is not necessarily a great one-on-one defender and he lacks the bulk to handle Howard down low but I wouldn’t put it past defensive guru Thibs to come up with a gameplan for slowing down DHow.
    DRose on the other hand should be able to abuse Nelson all night long but he better throw on some hockey gear next time he decides to drive down the lane on DHow.
    I’m hoping that DRose shows out tonight because there’s nothing better than watching him abuse PGs. It’s almost as fun as watching lions hunt on the animal channel.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Nah, JT…You think it helps, then you get your first job and you are retaught everything you thought you knew.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Damn.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I’m pretty sure I acknowledged him being a great player. And those things that he did, that was his role. I don’t mean role player in the Mike Miller sense, I meant it in the sense that he knew where he fell on the totem pole.
    And since I was discussing that in relation to Miami’s situation where that kind of realization doesn’t exist, I felt it was a relevant comment and pretty easy to understand.
    it certainly was in no way meant to diss Pippen.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    It’s ironic that the most ironic part of that song was that it wasn’t ironic?

  • http://bulls.com airs

    I disagree, jtaylor. i think noah is actually pretty good a one on one defender, and he’s actually a lot more ripped than his ridiculous ponytail and baggy jersey might imply

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Jameer Nelson always gives DRose problems… On both ends. He usually doesn’t have great games against Orlando.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Pippen was a sooper Role player. Who would have been a superstar in any other situation (he still was a “superstar” in the sense of being famous, but he could have been a “superstar” in terms of statistics). I get what Crawford is saying, and for Miami LeBron almost needs to take on a role player attitude (never gonna happen), where he just does the things his team needs instead of trying to be the center of attention/reason they win or lose. Wade I think plays the “go-to” guy scorer role a little better, even though LeBron is a much better player.

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    JTaylor – Tonight’s game should be pretty damn good.
    Orlando is riding high from their great win.
    Chicago is still upset from their horrible loss.
    I think it’ll come down to whoever wins the battle of the boards and second chance points.
    Noah is a good defender but he lacks the strength to hang with Howard.
    Stacey King would never say this about Noah, but I will – “Get in the weight room, son! If you scared, buy a dog!”
    And yeah, Rose does struggle against Orlando.

  • JTaylor21

    Okay here’s the stat I was looking for; Heat shooting last 30 seconds; tied or down 1-3:
    Bosh: 0 for 2 on 2pt FG, 0 for 2 3PT, 1Pt
    Bron: 2 for 8 on 2pt FG, 0 for 5 3PT, 7PTs
    Wade: 1 for 7 on 2pt FG, 1 for 2 3PT, 7PTs
    So what’s with all the hoopla about wade needing to get more touches down the stretch?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That’s a loser’s bet for Bron. Sadly, the general public would KILL him for making that choice, and he needs to sell shoes and stuff.

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    Nice reference to Omar and Brother Mouzone in the write-up. LOL.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    Wade is shooting 50 percent from three in the last 30 seconds tied or down 1-3?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    On two shots… C’mon son.
    Nate and Perkins having knee issues. Did the Celtics pull a fast one?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    I was thinking the same thing about the Celtics, Allen.
    And Perkins already signed an extension with OKC, didn’t he?

  • dsleepy

    good lord 171 comments already…feel bad for spo, he has a website designed to try to get him fired. the comment earlier about thibs: dude is a very LEGIT coach. yea, drose is carrying the team, but thibs has the entire team bought into his system, which is a very substantial reason why the bulls are closing in on the #2/#1 spot. Drose is playing mvp ball, but without thibs, he wouldnt be getting as much recognition for it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-JgAOrAQDc Nicolas Fleming

    I know Allen, I was just looking at how easy you can twist numbers. They don’t mean a lot.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Enigmatic 1:08 FTW

  • http://nicekicks.com meloman2.0

    OMG PLEASE upload the video of Chris Bosh crying last night… do us raptor fans this one favor

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Have y’all read about that high school kid, Wes Leonard?
    What a tragedy, but I suppose some comfort can be taken in knowing the kid passed after perhaps the greatest moment in his young life.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i did very tragic. But to be honest, if I prematurely went out, that’s the way i’d wanna go. My prayers are with his family

  • http://bedotwater.bandcamp.com BE.water

    is it safe to name dwight howard “dirty dozen” yet??

  • Pharoah

    Eboy Posted: Jan.31 at 10:42 am
    AllBall…once again, when you are the leader, you have to take the blame. There is no excuse.
    < And yet every single loss he puts the blame on Spo.

  • Pharoah

    Orlando did the exact same thing last game too, coming back from a 23 point deficit to missing the 3 that would have forced OT. And to everyone who always says “Jordan wouldn’t have let that happen” when Kobe loses to a bad team or whatever. Guess what Jordan would’ve never blown so many 20 point leads in a season. LBJ is the biggest choker in the game.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Pharoah — you still haven’t figured out that Eboy is a character? So was the Greek poster. Both have moments of realness and insightfulness, but they’re both also characters.
    Everyone needs to know this by now and should post from here on out with that fact firmly in mind, so that after every Miami collapse, we don’t get dozens of “Eboy, where you at?!” comments.

  • http://sdfklf.com Jukai

    Tealish: if I remember correctly, everyone wanted the Greek poster banned.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Jukai — I didn’t. And Iverson’s my favourite player of all time.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Wow, a TPU thread had Alanis pulled into it and i slept through it? Man.
    Resembled the good comment sections that were full of pop culture references, good humor AND bball discussions.

  • allenp

    I never asked for him to be banned either. And I suspected he was a racist.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Allenp: more fanatic than racist, if i had to wager a guess.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Btw, el Grieco wasn’t “banned”. His anonymity was threatened after a particularly roudy summer and fall of ‘commentiing’ (even by his standards) and decided to tuck his tail and run.
    Like a true blowhard.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    What’s up, Red Rocket.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    ROFLMFAOZ.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Speaking of one of the departed Euro’s favourite players to attack, what the hell did Iguodala take? The man has been a stat monster (double digit assists, whatt?) since January.
    Keep it up, Andre. And look out below, Knicks.

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