Tuesday, March 22nd, 2011 at 8:50 am  |  181 responses

Post Up: In Control

Celtics take hold of Knicks in fourth; Duncan goes down.

by Adam Figman | @afigman

Yo guys. Due to some extenuating circumstances, we gotta make do with a short-ass Post Up today. Apologies in advance.

Indiana 102, New Jersey 98

Down four at half, the Pacers turned it up in the final two quarters, jumping ahead and holding on for the win. Roy Hibbert dropped a game-high 24, while Danny Granger added another 20.

Orlando 97, Cleveland 86

The Magic are much better than the Cavs, which is probably the reason the Magic dominated the Cavs when the two faced off last night. Dwight Howard scored 28 points and inhaled 18 rebounds, leading all in those two categories.

Boston 96, New York 86

The Knicks had a good grasp of the contest for the first 42 or so minutes, at which point the Celts clawed back and just dominated the stretch, eventually winning by a solid margin behind some clutch play. Kevin Garnett led errbody with 24, and even dunked like he was 25 all over again.

Chicago 132, Sacramento 92

Well, at least Marcus Thornton is providing Kings fans with some hope for the future. The second-year guard dropped 25, but the Bulls still ran right through Sacramento, as all five of their starters scored in double figures and the team put up a whopping 132 points and shot a wild 61.2 percent from the floor.

Memphis 103, Utah 85

The Grizzlies held firm on their eighth spot in the West, defeating the Jazz at home. Zach Randolph scored 19, grabbed 13 and dished out 5 in the victory.

San Antonio 111, Golden State 96

The Spurs defended their spot as the top team in the West, knocking down the Warriors with ease. The bad news: Tim Duncan went down, and it looks like he’ll be out for a while. Hurry back soon, Timmy.

Denver 123, Toronto 90

While the Knicks struggle, the Nuggets keep showing that they’re just fine without that Melo dude. They strolled past the Raptors, led by 23 points from Ty Lawson. But this one was out of hand early, as no Denver starter needed to play more than 31 minutes.

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  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    Danny Fortson was dope.
    Relentless on the glass.
    Dude averaged like 20 rebounds a game per 48 minutes several times in his career.

  • JTaylor21

    Amen to that. I’m betting that Brian Scalabrine could step onto any court where local chaps ball regularly, he’s dropping 50 on them without breaking a sweat. NBA players are that good, just imagine if White Mamba could do that, what does that say about just how good guys like the Black Mamba, DWade and other elite players are.
    There’s a reason why these guys are paid millions to do what they do and it has nothing to do with just having the “right genetics”

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Even in the Rec Leagues, the tall guys and the guys who can jump out the gym always get picked first over the guys with actual skill.

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    Jtaylor…Scalabrine is 6’8. Of course he could dominate on any court outside the nba. Height is genetic. Why don’t you understand that?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Enig you are awesome for knowing that lol. “Baddest Man in Pigtails!!”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Athletically/Vertically Challenged players with Pro Skillsets* But its also possible to develop athletic skills, like going to speed camps, doing jump programs, yada yada. And height doesn’t keep anyone out of anywhere, its about the work you put in. And if you disagree why don’t you give my boy J.J Barea a phone call, and ask him how his height got him to the NBA

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    @SG – so what about Earl Boykins, Muggsy Bouges?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    SG
    You specifically said that it’s not a difficult skill. Or at least you implied that in your comments.
    I disagree vehemently. It’s really hard, regardless of how tall you are, or how well you jump, to play basketball at the level they play it in the NBA.
    I guess we just disagree.
    Lakeshow
    Of course I think my way is better, that’s why I’m doing it. If I didn’t think it was better, why would I do it. And, where did I say you weren’t a “real” fan. I said from the beginning, there is something mighty curious about someone saying “my sonics” but having the name Lakeshow. That is laughable
    And it’s even stranger when said person doesn’t like “bandwagon” fans.
    You dont’ like bandwagon fans, but when the NBA stripped your city of its longtime team you switched your allegiance to one of the most popular teams in the league.
    Ummm, ok.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If you define a true fan as someone who just joined the “movement” after they lost their own team that’s fine. I doubt people who have been rooting for the Lakers and only the Lakers their entire lives think of you in the same way as they do themselves, they actually probably consider you a bandwagon fan, whether they say it to your face or not. And its not saying bandwagon fans aren’t fans, they are, just not for the traditional reason. What happens when/if seattle gets a team again? is it contradictory for you to switch back or stay with LA?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    didn’t mean to echo anything previously said, salesman in my office distracting me from my work and my commenting my bad

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow – a passionate fan who watches over 150 games a year? what team plays 150 games a year for you to be a fan of? The Mariners?

  • http://nobulljive.com/ Enigmatic

    LOL @nbk. I hate when work distracts me from commenting too.
    Like I have an hour long meeting later.
    Damnit. Can’t they see I have commenting to do!
    Oh, and nbk – in regards to yesterday with your rat terrier dog – all terriers were originally bred for that purpose.
    To dig out vermin and such.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    But your telling me your way is better Allen. As opposed to me i’m not telling you how to be a fan. I don’t like some guy i don’t know telling me how to be a fan. You can like who ever you like. I don’t like that your not passionate but i’m telling you you have to be. I loved my Sonics as much as anyone could love a team. Lakers were NEVER the Sonics rival. That was the Trailblazers and the Bulls. I actually like to go to games live. I couldn’t do that in Seattle anymore. But i could do that once i moved to LA. Being a fan of Kobe’s made it an easier transition than it could have been to “pick” another team. I could care less if they are considered popular. But i know, i’m not a “real” fan cause i’m not like you.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    NBK. have you heard of DVR? have you heard of watching multiple teams play…. i mean really dude.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    haha thanks matic, now I have to look up why that one is specifically called Rat. And now I gotta go leave to do some stuff for work haha, i’ll holler at ya’ll later.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    well then I’m a true fan of the entire league. what does watching every team have to do with being a fan? whatever, i’m out, someone make some sense out of this

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lakeshow I’m going to address this one last time.
    I never said you weren’t a real fan.
    I pointed out that you saying “my sonics” while at the same time being a diehard Lakers fan is funny.
    How you take that is how you take it.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    But Allen I can’t be a die hard Sonics fan. There is no such thing. I live in LA!!! I like Kobe. How you take that is up to you also.
    NBK i didn’t know there was a a difference between a fan and a guy who loves and watches a rediculous amount of basketball…

  • http://slamonline Brion

    Being from Seattle I too was a life long Sonics fan, Lakeshow was right, no Sonics fan could start rooting for our rivals the Blazers, definatly can NOT root for OKC! But as a Sonics fan I was always a Laker Hater. So its really hard for me to find a team to go with? After we lost our Sonics I vowed to be done watching NBA ball for good.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Shout out to Dion Glover.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Are you still holdin to that Brion? I had to watch NBA. I love the leagu to much to bail on them even if they bailed on me. I wasn’t a laker hater (obviously) and it grew pretty quickly for me once my new city offered a home team for me to go watch.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    So how’d that work out for you, Brion?

  • T-Money

    The skill of Euro league is grossly exagerated. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. SG, you’re soooo off. What people often forget is that a guy like Keith Bogans is not good enough to do anything else than defend and shoot open 3s… in the NBA. When he was at Kentucky, he was damn near Paul Pierce! And if he dropped on your local run, he would be MJ. Jason Kidd said that when he was in HS, he had trouble just getting a shot up vs GP when they were playing 1vs1. When people say that it doesn’t require a lot of skill and just genetics to play in the NBA, I know right away that they have never played college ball. Am I lying?

  • http://slamonline Brion

    Well I ordered NBA league pass this year if that tells ya anything

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    lol. Who’s your team? cause your not a “fan” here unless you have 1 and only 1. jp. thats how cats play on here.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    What am I gonna do, start following the Mariners? no thanks

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    LOL

  • T-Money

    SG: you say you know a lot of people with skills who just don’t have the size for the NBA. Now, if your skilled friends can’t, say, hit at least 75% of their jumpers in practice then there’s really nothing to talk about. I’ve played against fringe NBA guys like Denham Brown and Bill Walker in AAU, camps and whatnot and their skill level (not athletic ability) is off the chart. They can rain jumpers with guys in their face like it’s nothing. Split double teams and stop on a dime for the pull up J… at 230 lb! Of course, they can’t do that in the league because there others even more skilled than them at creating but they would blow your mind in an open gym.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    Now I gravitate towards what team is the most entertaining to watch….which win or lose is usually the Heat, but by no means do I consider them “my team”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow you started off arguing that you were a laker fan, now your a fan of the whole league? That’s fine, but define yourself. Don’t defend being a Laker fan by saying you watch over 150 games a year, that doesn’t make any sense. You are a fan of the NBA, who roots for the Lakers because he doesn’t have a home town team? is that what your trying to say?

  • Michael

    lol Jtaylrs six word comment has got everyone going at it again over nothing. Yall get played on the daily.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    oh yeah, we gettin played? like we don’t choose to come on here and talk about meaningless NBA stuff, we get suckered in? yup makes sense, if anything I’m happy about anything said on here that provokes responses. Maybe you thinkin we are getting played is actually you getting played?

  • http://slamonline.com SG

    You hear Jimmer Fredette ability to play in the NBA questioned not because of his skillset but his because of speed, athletic ability, and size. So that proves my point.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    The only problem with that NBK is that i live in LA and like the Lakers allot.. So no i’m a fan of the Lakers and like watching basketball in general. I’m surprised how difficult this is to comprehend. Fan of the Lakers and a fan of the league. Oooooh ahhhhh. I’m like a hybrid

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    or a bandwagon fan lol which is straight

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    SG – Jimmer Fredette is more athletic then Steve Nash. But Fredette also isn’t riding his bike around campus dribbling a tennis ball to increase his ball handling. See the difference

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The biggest strength of any basketball player is their mind, then their work ethic. You can have as many physical gifts as you want, if your dumb as rocks then you will never be able to use it properly.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    There were, and still are players who are considered slow, and non – athletic.
    1 – Nash
    2 – Michael Redd
    3 – Boris Diaw
    4 – Tim Duncan
    5 – Mario Chalmers
    6 – Antoine Walker
    All of those guys have a skill(s) that has made them great livings, no?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    How do you bandwagon on your home team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    well you have 2 “hometeams”, and your picking one because you like Kobe Bryant right? If Kobe went anywhere else would you be a fan of that team? If the Lakers didn’t have Kobe, would you be a Clippers fan? If you moved to Detroit would you be a Pistons fan? Stop calling it your hometown team that is clearly not the reason you jumped on the wagon. I don’t understand why it matters to you that your viewed as a bandwagon fan, just like you don’t understand why I won’t accept that your a true Laker fan, or whatever you call yourself.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Philo
    Michael Redd came into the league as an athlete/slasher/scorer. He built himself into a shooter.
    Nash wasn’t considered unathletic. He wasn’t considered an eye-popping athlete. Mark Jackson was considered unathletic, huge difference.
    Mario Chalmers was never consider unathletic.
    You’re right about Duncan and Walker.
    Jimmer Freddette is a scorer in a point guard’s body with average to below average athleticism.
    That makes a big difference.
    The League is about the combination of intelligence and ability. The best players have skill and smarts. Mediocre players have one or the other. I can’t understand how you can watch the games and think otherwise.

  • http://nobulljive.com Enigmatic

    LOL @ Michael.
    So I guess we should just go on here, say “FIRST!” and comment on how our favorite teams performed the night before and leave it at that like on other, crappier websites.
    But see we like actually being engaged in good basketball convo here, no matter how silly or trivial the subject at hand might be.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    No, the Sonics aren’t a team. They don’t exsist. I have one Home, and one team that lives in it. Yes maybe i would be a Clippers fan. I would not be a fan of Kobe’s new team if he was not a Laker just of him.

    Urban Dictionary: Anyone who claims they are a “fan” of a particular sports team, even though they had no prior support for/interest in the team until that team started winning. These types of fans only show playoff interest, have probably never watched a regular season game, don’t own any type of team merchandise, nor would they buy any. None of that applies to me.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Allen, a lot of those guys were the smartest before they got to the league. I think that’s what the average fan doesn’t realize (not you, i’m sure you know but its worth saying), every player in the league was the best player in his high school, city, and was one of, if not the best player in their whole state. Its just that the NBA is a collection of the “best” from everywhere, so it may seem like some of these guys are “unathletic” or “dumb” but in reality, they are generally smarter and more athletic (on the court) then 99% of the population.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LakeShow did you just use the Urban Dictionary to prove your not a bandwagon fan? Whatever man, your a “late-arrival” fan…happy?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nah, NBK.
    Some cats, depending on their physical gifts, can get away with being “stupid” in a sense when they are playing against lesser competition in high school and college. They don’t get exposed until they get to a level where their physical gifts either give them no true advantage, or only a very small advantage.
    But I agree, for the most part, professional basketball is a collection of cats who absolutely dominated on every level, or at the very least on the high school level. All of them used to kill players at some point.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    your probably right, although i can’t think of many “dumb basketball players” that dominated college. Dumb people? yes, but on the court those people are not dumb. See Ron Artest, Stephon Marbury

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yes I am NBK. Band Wagon fan just sounds so condescending. I am a huge fan of the Lakers. Watched all but 7 total regular season games in the last 5 years and every playoff one. And go to several every year. I’m the dopest band wagon fan ever if I am one lol. Well the dictionary doesn’t exactly have the phrase “band wagon fan” in it does it?..

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t have a problem with BandWagon/Late-Arrival/NewToTheCityNeedATeamToLove fans, I just get a little aggrivated when a person claims to be a hardcore fan of one team, then call another team your own. Your circumstances are obviously a little different being from Seattle, but as a Laker fan I don’t view you with the same disdain that I view the lifelong laker fans I have to deal with on a regular basis that have no place in a logical discussion on anything that can even relate to the Lakers. Hopefully your the objective kind of Laker fan, that can separate his fandom from his brain, cuz if not, you joined the party pretty late to develop laker brain damage

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Ricky Davis was dumb. That’s the first name that came to me.

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