Scottie Pippen: ‘LeBron May Be The Best Player Ever’

Vince Carter showed more talent than Kobe???? Yeah sure ok.

Tae and BlackPhantom are severely misguided if you think Kobe was at any point in his career better than MJ. I’d bet almost anything that you guys are younger than 25. Too young to have really witnessed and understood the majority of MJ’s career. 1st off, Jordan was a better shooter than Kobe for more than one reason. Two of those reasons are shot selection and accuracy, which can be related but are not the same. Secondly, Jordan’s athleticism dwarfed Kobe’s at Kobe’s peak. Thirdly, MJ never had the luxury of playing with anyone like Shaq. Pippen was great, but he was no Shaq. If MJ had a Shaq-like player he’d have ten rings. Kobe was arguably the best player on a championship team one time in his career. No disrespect to the youth but they simple aren’t qualified to engage in MJ/Kobe debates. Kobe/Lebron, sure. But I’m afraid they haven witnessed enough, as evidenced by these asinine claims about KB24 being close to MJ.

shaq was better than lebron, mj waas better than shaq, kobe is a replica mj, d rose didnt deserve mvp, chris paul is better pg than d rose, lil waynes new gf is ugly.

My bad Phantom. I get you my dude. Salaam: LOL @ Wayne’s chic, but why didn’t DRose deserve MVP? It’s a regular season award. He was the MVP of the regular season. He took that team to the best record. They overachieved strictly because of him. We can’t say that of any other player this season. Not saying he’s the best player, but he’s MVP for sure.

If we compare team accomplishments jordan is by far better than lebron. but if we are just comparing the physical abilities and skills of the 2 as ballplayers, its a close call. jordans j was/still is lethal. but when lebrons in the open court you might as well put 2-3 points on the board. jordan is like a prototypical sg on steroids. while lebron is like a pg on steroids in a pfs body.

@mjnotkobe Im 23 n damn Black, didnt know u were 16 my man. Anyway, i understand wat ur sayin but iKve watched basketball sincee i was little n i have gone back n done my research on Jordan. He was my fav comin up, i still watch his games today on dvd, reg season ones n playoffs. I agree wit u that Jordan is better than Kobe achievement wise. Its just my strong opinion that Kobe is slightly better skill wise, not by alot but slightly. Overall thou Jordan has wayyy more achievements n better stats. Assist, fg %, rebounds, 6 rings, scoring titles, ect. I can go on. But for some people like Scottie to say Lebron is better is crazy

blackvictory23: Sorry it took so long to respond. I’ll point out three things:
1- Lebron did a great job on Rose, but Rose has been playing awful throughout the playoffs.
2- No, Lebron probably can’t shut down Malone, McHale, Webber… His best bet would be Barkley. Lebron has never had to guard a dominant back-to-the-basket four. Who has he shut down? An aging, no-knee Garnett? Hell, Lebron hasn’t even shut down Zach Randolph. I’ve stated before, and agreed with you, that Lebron is clearly more versatile as an isolation defender, but you’re getting way carried away here.
3- You ignored the team defense comment. Fair enough.

Tae: It’s a slippery slope when you say things like that. When you say skill, I assume you mean range on his shot, footwork, and dribble moves? Because then I do agree with you, Kobe has a slight advantage over Jordan.
But as an athlete and using court awareness, Jordan was far better than Kobe

Oscar Robertson also had 181 triple doubles and averaged a triple double for five straight seasons in an era with no three point line and the recording of assists was much more regulated. Amazing…

@Jukai thats exactly wat im talkin about when i say his skill set. And wat u said is true also. But im not even gonna entertain that Lebron and Jordan debate. There is no debate

I just want to be clear. Greatest basketball player ever. Wilt Chamberlain. Put down the gatorade, take off the shoes and draws and realize one simple fact. Jordan wouldn’t average 50 a game in any era. They would have fouled him until he was crippled. After his 3rd high flying dunk, he would have lost his knees. Wilt would average 40 a game at any time during the shot clock era. Wilt, is the greatest ever. Stop thinking otherwise. Jordan transcended the game due to the marketing geniuses at nike and gatorade. He was the right player at the right time for the league to be what it is now. He also couldn’t go left without traveling. Watch his highlights, if he went left he either traveled and it wasn’t called, or he was somehow “fouled” on the play. Lebron should be called for a charge every time he has the ball. Just the way this works.

Scottie just trying to keep his name in the paper. Fade out, sidekick.

If Chamberlain is the greatest ever, then why did he lost to Bill Russell many times?

MJ’s legacy is about more that stats, more than championships and more than harware. MJ’s influence made the NBA go global, and he became the NBA’s first truely global icon. What he did for the league can never be repeated or surpased. That is why he belongs in a class all his own, and that’s why any comparisons to Kobe, Lebron, Wilt or anyone else are almost pointless.

@blackvictory23: I mean…. did ya even really look into the statistics? Back in the day, there were far more possessions, I’m took 30-40 more chances to a shot, a rebound, an assist. If you adjust for stats today (which doesn’t 100% work, but its a decent indicator), Oscar averages closer to 23-8-8. Maybe 23-8-12 with the way assists are handed out like hotcakes today. Obviously other worldy numbers, but don’t get carried away with the triple double numbers. Magic woulda had something like 23-14-14 with his numbers back in the day.
Have you actually watched games of Oscar? I have, several. His game was very unique, he sort of played like Chauncy Billups but in the high post.
@mjNottkobe: You’re really, really wrong. Not much else I can say.
@Chamberlain/Jabbar debate: The way I see it, Chamberlain was the BETTER player… But Jabbar was ‘greater’ with more championships, longevity, his coachability, etc. etc.
I mean, do you want the guy who is more skilled but you’ll have a harsh time coaching him, or the guy who is slightly less skilled but is easy to coach? Your call.

@Jukai…if you’re comparing apples to oranges then why are you discounting how much more easier it would have been for Oscar to get to the hole in today’s game, where hand-checking is disallowed; or in Jordan’s era, where Oscar could use his height and big frame for isolation (a.k.a. Barkley & Mark Jackson big-butt back down) plays to score or rack up assists easily. Oscar Robertson was also a much better shooter than Magic and slightly a better rebounder. If Robertson was playing in Chicago in the 90′s with Pippen, Steve Kerr, Paxon, and all those serviceable finishers on the inside, I’m sure Oscar would have won his fair amount of titles in Chi-town too.

@mjnotkobe, First of all man kill that noise about T-mac and his work ethic. That is a lame excuse to use why Kobe is better. Kobe was the most dominate player from 2000-2010 thus is why he recieved player of the decade.
Also trying to use the argument that Kobe had shaq and Jordan didn’t is lame as well. In fact that argument goes in Kobe’s favor because that Laker team Kobe was number two and still was putting up stats comparible to MJ. Once Shaq was gone Kobe took a bunch of no names (Chris mihm, smush parker, Radmanvich, etc…) placed them on his shoulders and took them to the playoffs. On his way there in those two seasons he scored 81, avg 40 points per game at one point. (something MJ NEVER done)had 3 0r 4 60 plus point game not in overtime. In fact in one game against the mavericks he scored 63 in the third alone and was taken out of the whole fourth because the Lakers were blowing them out. Not one person you mentioned has come close to any of these acclomplishments. Not Iverson, not T-mac, not carter, not nash, oh and did I mention NOT MJ EITHER! Please your arguments were lame and quit picking on the youngsters and give them the real facts…

Now back to the main topic… Lebron hasn’t done a thing to even prove that he is top twenty material. All my years of watching the NBA I have seen many great players that Lebron doesn’t even come close too. Pippen is just a KOBE hater and will always be one. He still bitter that Kobe ruined his (pippen) chances of ever winning a title without Jordan. Remember that 4th quater comeback when the Laker were down in game 7 of the western Conference Finals. Down by 17 with 4 minutes left to play Kobe single handly destroyed Pippen and company. All I remeber are the three’s that were raining! Hahaha… Pippen witout MJ has zero rings. Kobe without Shaq 2 rings and 3 finals appearences. Lebron 0 titles and Kobe has five! nuff said haters… Dueces!!!

blackvictory23: Er… Apples to oranges? Sorry, I thought we were comparing basketball players.
He was mainly a highpost player, ie handchecking wouldn’t really do much. If he played in today’s game, he woulda had to probably take his role as he did in the Milwaukee teams, where he only averaged about 17-10… he was aging and had a backburner role (I remember reading him say he coulda easily dropped more triple doubles but toned it down for his teammates, whether that be true or not) but it’s no 30-10-11.
Let’s not even get into Oscar’s bad attitude which turned away a lot of players.

WTF

Oscar’s bad attitude?!!?!?!!? Jordan brought his own teammates to tears, punched some of them and almost drove B.J. Armstrong to the point of insanity. You gotta be kidding me!!!

You dreaming Scottie!
Michael Jordan is way out in front

Jukai: I’ve read a few of your comments since a year and a half before I started commenting. 99% of the time your comments are wrong. @BlackMamba is GOAT: Your name says enough. Shaq was the biggest reason those 3 chips were won. Point blank period. Jordan never had a teammate coming close to Shaq in his prime. Don’t talk to me about numbers. Kobe putting up 30 points with Shaq is your back-up to your claim that he’s thee greatest? GTFOH. Strictly based on numbers he can’t sniff Jordan’s boxers. Even Lebron’s all-around numbers are better than Kobe’s, so don’t even speak numbers when talking about winning. Be not mistaken youngin’, Shaq was the main focus of the opposingg teams’ defenses. Kobe didn’t play against the physical defenses Jordan did. You’re a Kobe stan who is probably as young as Tae and Phantom. As far as Tracy goes, in his prime he was unquestionably a better offensive player than Kobe. He was more talented than Kobe. Now, I never said he was a better player so I don’t know where the hell you got that from. You should also know the difference between an excuse and a real reason. Tracy never had a work ethic. Poor excersize and training habits make you more susceptible to injury. For him to be taller than Kobe, have a way better handle, a slightly better jump shot, and a way better crossover you can’t sit here and tell me Kobe was a better offensive player in Tracy’s prime. He didn’t play D and he didn’t work hard. How am I making excuses for the guy? You’re just too much of a Kobe stan to have an objective opinion.

@mjnotKobe, First off let’s get the age right. I probably have a decade and a half on you. Born in the 70′s, raised in the showtime era, and suffered through the boring Jordan years. So that ‘s your first X (mouth shut). Second you can’t really argue early Kobe numbers because the offense was ran through Shaq and Kobe didn’t have as many touches on the ball as Jordan or Lebron. However with that said Kobe’s numbers are right under Jordan with less touches and being number two for the early part of his career. Don’t believe me check their stats, all of their stats and you will clearly see that Jordan and Lebron played more minutes, put up more shots, and played in more games by the time all three of them were 25. The big difference here is KOBE had THREE RINGS already!One could only imagine if there were no Shaq all them years and KOBE was the main go to guy. You all would be paying top dollar just to buy the sweat from his socks. As far as him not being able to win without Shaq that theory has been shot dead twice in row. That’s your second :OX (mouth shut). Third I noticed that you didn’t want to touch none of Kobe’s achievements post Shaq that I addressed earlier. You know like his averaging 40 points a game, 3 60 plus point games not in over time. Of course every Kobe hater wants to downplay 81 as well. We can go all day with achievements here and there but at the end of the day KOBE has FIVE rings and Lebron zero. One season wonder T-mac could never even make it out of round 1 in the playoffs. KOBE still has at least three good years left in him and by the end of his career he will pass Jordan with rings. Kobe also has more Finals Appearances then Jordan does already. :OX… Bwahhh ahh ahh I can’t believe you said T-mac hahahah… My side hurts! Before even trying to touch Kobe try going through the Magic man first you would have a tough enough time with that.

@jukae, I gotta keep hope alive! Hahaha

BlackMamba: Nobody said Kobe couldn’t win without Shaq, I said Kobe only won twice w/o Shaq which makes him four titles too short to compete with MJ. You are actually using the argument that Kobe had 3 rings (on Shaq’s team) as a reason for why he’s on par with MJ? Kobe has 2 finals MVPs. MJ has 6. Kobe has more finals appearances and fewer rings! That works against him, not for him! Secondly, I was born in the 70′s (74) and I highly doubt you were. You sound too young. Thirdly, don’t even begin to speak on efficiency because Kobe isn’t on Jordan’s level. Im not even talking ability because his shot selection is so poor he doesn’t leave you room to debate his ability. Look at the numbers genius! Look at Jordan’s season points averages and his FG%. Now look at Kobe’s. Now pipe down and have a seat. Jordan won 6 titles. 3 of Kobe’s 5 came on Shaq’s back. FYI, if you were as old as you claimed to be you’d remember Jordan actually did play point earlier in his career for a brief period. You mentioning that they tried to play Kobe at point is useless and irrelevent because it fails to demonstrate an advantage over Jordan. Don’t talk to me about Kobe winning more titles, it hasn’t happened and it won’t. Only his fans believe it and those same morons thought he was going to go all Jordan and pull the lakers back from a 3-0 hole this year. As far as TMac, look believe what you want. Facts state otherwise. He was far and away a better offfensive player. Are you dense? Did I say TMac was a better all around player? Do you even know how to present a counter argument? I’m not arguing that he was a better player. He was a better player on one side of the court. Only a stan can’t admit that. As far as Lebron, Kobe has been in the league far longer than he has. By the time Lebron logs as many years as Kobe he will have accomplished more. He’ll win titles, only he won’t have anyone like Shaq whose back he can ride to 3 titles. Shaq in his prime>>>DWade+Bosh. He already has 2 honest MVPs, scoring titles, rookie of the year, more triple doubles, more double doubles, higher assist averages, and more rebounds than Kobe will ever have. He’ll better greater than your little poor man’s MJ(Kobe). Furthermore I can’t respect a man who would even try to steal the mannerisms of another man. Kobe has no identity of his own. He’ll no doubt be beneath the other two when all is said and done.