Friday, June 24th, 2011 at 11:25 am  |  87 responses

NBA Draft: Winners & Losers

Some smell like roses, others stink like dead fish.

by Jeff Fox / @HoopsManifesto

One of the compelling aspects of basketball (and most other sports) is that at the end of a game there is always a clear-cut winner and loser.  There is no grey area; even the most ardent Miami Heat supporter (may God have mercy on your soul) can’t argue that the Heat won the NBA Finals.  However, declaring winners and losers at the NBA Draft is a more difficult proposition, especially doing it only hours after the draft has finished.  We truly won’t know who came out the true winners or losers until a few years down the road, but if the internet is good for one thing it’s knee-jerk reactions, so here’s this jerk’s knee reactions (wait, that doesn’t sound right):

Winners

Tristan Thompson

Heading into the draft, Tristan Thompson looked like a late lottery to mid-first round pick.  However, after very impressive showings at pre draft workouts, the Canadian big man jumped all the way up to the fourth pick with the Cavaliers.  This huge leap up the draft charts will earn him around a $4 million raise over his first two seasons in the League.

Charlotte

Michael Jordan has been much-maligned as a basketball executive (and rightfully so), but he came out of last night earning plenty of praise.  Charlotte is smartly rebuilding their team around young players. So they shipped out Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston and pick #19 and came home with Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker and veteran Corey Maggette.  All in all, a very productive night for MJ.

Detroit

After last season’s disaster, Pistons fans needed some good news and they got it last night as Brandon Knight, who was considered almost a lock to be gone by the third pick, fell into their laps at No. 8.  While Knight still needs plenty of work before he is a legit NBA point guard, his skill set, size and athleticism make him a great pick.

Toronto

If Bryan Colangelo is to be believed, NBA front office executives were falling over themselves last night praising the Raptors for their selection of Jonas Valanciunas at pick #5.  After potential snags in securing a buyout with Valanciunas’s European team scared some teams off from picking him, Toronto got the player they coveted.  While Toronto might have to wait a year or so before he suits up for them, his size, athleticism and defensive instincts will help them immediately.

Canada

Canada’s pro team got a potential steal in Valanciunas, Tristan Thompson became the highest selected Canadian ever in the draft (the previous highest selected Canadian was Steve Nash at pick #15), and then Thompson’s fellow Canadian and high school and college teammate Cory Joseph snuck into the first round and finds himself in a terrific position with the Spurs.  A great night for Canadian basketball.

Losers

Sacramento

The Kings traded their starting point guard, Beno Udrih, for John Salmons AND they had to move down in the draft, from pick #7 to #10.  Then they went and selected a player at #10, Jimmer Fredette, who looks to be a career NBA role player at best.  However, the Kings look like they are going to try to make Fredette be something he isn’t suited to be – a starting NBA point guard.

Brandon Knight

His free fall out of the top three of the draft cost him plenty of greenbacks.  Plus, he now joins the most dysfunctional team in the NBA, the Detroit Pistons.  Not exactly the greatest position for a young, raw player to get his feet wet.

The Fans

This was a truly weak draft class and most of the players picked last night aren’t transcendent talents who are going to make the game we love any better.  But us, the fans, are truly the losers because last night probably was the last NBA “action” we’re going to get for a long, long time as the billionaires fight with the millionaires over how to share our hard-earned money we’ve handed over to them.

Read more of Jeff Fox at The Hoops Manifesto and The MMA Manifesto.

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  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @enigmatic. Yea true, never seen Val at the top of mocks. But he was ranked 2nd overall on draftexpress in March. But I’m still undecided if this was a good pick for the Raptors. The only 2 Pros I see is 1) Raptors desparately needed a Center. 2) there are NO CENTERS ranked top 20 in next year’s draft class. So basically Bryan Colangelo drafted a Center now and hopefully we’ll get a Kabongo, Gilchrist or Rivers next year. LOL
    -
    NBA 2k12′s cover will probably be David Stern holding a lock in one hand and dangling the keys over his mouth with his other hand.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @nbk. Where are you from? You seem elated on Jonas, what do you think about the Raptors drafting him?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I’m from Phoenix. My point is considering this is the winners and losers column I thought Toronto should be considered winners. They got arguably the best player in the draft, definitely best or second best talent in the draft, with the 5th pick. And will get another great pick out of the shortened season (next years 12th pick is likely a top 5 player in this years draft). Other then that I’m higher on Kanter then anyone else in this draft.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Enig, I think Kyrie will be about 75, Derrick will be about 74. I’d laugh if Jimmer has a super low rating.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    “While Toronto might have to wait a year or so before he suits up for them, his size, athleticism and defensive instincts will help them immediately.” What? nice contradiction, his size and defence etc, is going to help them from overseas?!!?

  • tuutu

    but in nba 2k11 john wall had 81 overall so i think irving has about same nubers

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    John Wall is exponentially better then Kyrie Irving.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @nbk, Jeff did have Toronto in the winners section though.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Hahahaha wow I read that whole thing too. My fault Jeff! Lol

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Irving’s a better shooter than Wall and um…that’s about it.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Lol. I was so confused what you were trying to argue for.hahaha

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah hahaha idk I had to leave work for a bit to deal with the Qwest people and apparently it reset my brain.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Valunciunas will play in the NBA this season apparently. They just agreed on the buy-out

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I mean in 2012-13 my bad.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    So he’ll start playing when all the other rookies do!
    Hold up, if there’s no season next year, will there be a draft?
    And if there is, will all 120 rookies from the 2011 AND 2012 draft be eligible for the ROY award? Crazy!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign nbk on Kanter… He’s got the full package, really. AND he’s a real center. Real. Center. No beyond-the-arc nonsense to him.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Oh, I been saying Kanter’s top dog in this draft since pretty much LAST year’s draft.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I wanted the Raptors to take Kemba at #5; people are underrating him because of his size but he’s a proven winner and a natural leader, with an NBA-ready midrange game and pretty good court vision. Also, he’s not even that small for the PG spot–just ask Kyle Lowry and Jameer Nelson.
    However, I didn’t really know much about Jonas Valanciunas until last night, and now I’m pretty happy with the pick regardless. He’s a legit 7’0 CENTER–the complete opposite of Bargnani (no offense, Andrea). He rebounds, plays defense, and looks to score in the post. Really excited to see him play.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I’m also happy with what Houston got out of the draft. They drafted the scoring, more versatile Morris twin, and ended up trading the rights to Nikola Mirotic (who happens to be in the post-Dirk mold of perimeter, face-up big man) for Montiejunas, who, despite his reputation as being a jumpshooting big, is a legit center as well. Montiejunas is just what the Rockets needed, and some people earlier in the year were even wondering whether he’d get picked ahead of Jonas Valenciunas. Montiejunas can hit the long jumper, but he also looks to score a lot in the post and can hit a hook with both hands.
    Oh, and Mirotic’s contract buyout would have taken him about four years to get to the league and actually play for the Rockets–so trading him to the Bulls, who have enough big men, makes sense. The Bulls get the advantage of not having to take on any extra contracts this season, and possibly getting an NBA-ready big man in four years when Boozer nears the end of his contract.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Wait, if there’s a lockout, will it be for the entire season, or will we still have at least SOME NBA basketball, albeit a shorter year of 30-50 games like we saw in ’98-’99?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Oh, and I just thought about it right now, but how ironic is it that a kid from CLEVELAND State…will be taking his talents to South Beach! LOL

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    That’s probably the real reason they picked him.

  • http://countdownnba.blogspot.com/ Clay

    I think Jeff Foxworthy wrote this. Charlotte won? Sacramento wins because they can sell more tickets, maybe enough to keep them in California’s capital.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    I am not a Wizards fan but I can’t see how they are not included among the winners. That is at worst the second most athletic team in the league now and every core player they have is young as hell. They have a really bright future ahead of them with Singleton and Vesely in the front court along with McGee with Wall running the point.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ Not to mention Jordan Crawford at the 2.

  • Groves

    Good night for Australian basketball too with Ater Majok and Kyrie Irving! irving and bogut along with mills and andersen are making the boomers kinda strong

  • SKITTLESO5

    DAMN….i didnt know KYRIE was born in MELBOURNE….DAMNNNN….i see Majok from the Gold Coast was selected by the LAKE SHOW….EVEN…Homicide Williams is back signing with Above the RIm and all, last month he was playing for my club the SDBL SPARTANS in Carina Brisbane damn a big month for Australian Bball

  • http://www.slamonline.com Max

    I remember back in the days of nba live 07 that Crittington and McRoberts had like an 80 and an 87 rating…………………

  • http://www.slamonline.com Amare Excuses

    Jimmer= JJ Redick hehe

  • http://slamonline.com truballer

    EVERYBODY BETTER WATCH OUT FOR THE 2 CANADIAN BOYS THOMPSON AND JOSEPH!… THE GOT ALOT TO PROVE……! CANADA WERE ON THE MAP!!!…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    I’m gonna got out there and say that 5 years from now, Brandon Knight will be at least as good or better than Irving. Knight is a very hard worker and has all the physical tools to succeed as a PG. I just think his cieling is higher than Irvings…I think Irving is near his ceiling as a player right now, whereas Knight has a ways to go.

  • Del

    PG – Knight, Bynum
    SG – Stuckey, Hamilton
    SF – Jerebko, Daye
    PF – Monroe, Jerebko
    C – Wallace, Monroe

    Joe D knows what he’s doing.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ That looks pretty balanced, actually. But what does he do with Ben Gordon, Charlie V, Tayshaun Prince, and T-Mac? (Okay well, I think T-Mac’s contract might be up).

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    T-Mac & Tayshaun’s contracts are both up. Ben Gordon and Charlie V need to go, but I doubt there will be any takers.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Utah has like 35 PF/C’s, Detroit shouldd be talking with them…

  • http://basketballjunction.blogspot.com/ Joseph V

    The Timberwolves were losers. All they did was stockpile European players who won’t even be able to come over for a couple of years. They’ve got K-Love, and Michael “Beastly”, why do they keep drafting frountcourt players? Even though he is in my opinion the best rookie, Derrick Williams doesn’t really fit in the lineup. He’s a swing 3-4 like Beasly. To me its one or the other.

  • r2j

    Bulls got Jimmy Butler, San Antnion traded George Hill for Kawahi Leonard from Indy. LA and Miami got their PG’s in Darius Morris and Norris Cole in the 2nd round. Portland solidified their PG depth with Nolan Smith and traded Andre Miller for Raymond Felton. These teams did a great job.

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