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Friday, June 10th, 2011 at 10:15 am  |  291 responses

Can the Miami Heat Bounce Back?


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

What began so promisingly for the Miami Heat in these NBA Finals has turned into an absolute nightmare. After winning the series opener in convincing fashion, things haven’t exactly gone according to plan for America’s Most Hated Squad.

LeBron James hasn’t lived up to the hype (on both ends of the floor), Dwyane Wade — brilliant throughout the series — is dealing with a potentially worrisome injury, Erik Spoelstra has been outcoached by Rick Carlisle, and Dirk Nowitzki is threatening to run away with the Finals MVP.

But all hope is not lost, despite a 3-2 series lead for the Dallas Mavericks. After all, the Lakers were in this exact same situation last year in the Finals. And things turned out OK for them.

The Heat need two consecutive victories to survive and clinch a title, and they’ll have a couple of chances at home (potentially) to get it done.

Though clearly concerned by the predicament they currently find themselves in, Miami’s two superstars and its coach know they still have an opportunity to do something special.

From ESPN and the Sun-Sentinel:

James and Wade were supposed to shine together in these moments on their way to winning multiple championships. That talk is gone, with the Heat needing to win the last two games to keep this season from ending in disappointment. Now, the discussion is whether James can perform on the grandest of stages.

The Mavs have never stopped believing they were going to win this series, and the Heat have helped them along, so often giving them an out. Now, Dallas looks like the more confident team even as it will have to overcome the Heat’s last resort — home-court advantage in the final two games of the series. When Game 6 and then maybe Game 7 are close at the end, the Mavs will have no problem believing they can pull it off. They did in Games 2 and 4, and those achievements made Game 5 felt like a haymaker.

“We just got to push through it,” James said. “At this point we have no choice, honestly.”

It’s been an incredibly entertaining series up to this point. It’s now up to the Miami Heat to ensure that it somehow goes to even greater heights.

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  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out
  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    go to about a minute in.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    once they approve my link, that is.

  • neaorin

    David Stern should send Bennett Salvatore out there for Game 6, just to piss everybody off.

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    Of course the Heat can still pull this out. They have incredible talent and they will be at home. The biggest factor now is DWade’s hip. As long as it does not keep him from playing they have a great shot at closing out the series. That being said: GO MAVS!

  • MikeC.

    The Mavs just seem like they actually like each other more than the Heat. When they go to timeouts or make a big play, there’s more high-fiving and big smiles from the Mavs players. The Heat are really good at celebrating their good plays, but it’s typically a solo act with the howling and chest-pounding.

  • DeeDre

    Lebron James takes way too many outside shots at clutch time. It worked in the Celtics series, it worked in the Chicago series for a game or two, but its not working now. He needs to start just using his size as an advantage to get easier shots. Three pointers are not his game. And you can tell he’s not confident at all taking them. He’s just taking them because he knows people think he should. He needs to just play his game. With that being said, GO MAVS!!!

  • add

    if wade is back and if lebron is agressive it’s heat in 7, but i feel like this is a repeat of last year when lebron just sat back and watched the cavs get beaten

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    As much as I love the Heat and feel anxiety for what they face right now, I must admit that I am really enjoying these finals. If you truly love basketball, you’ve got to appreciate what you’re witnessing. Especially since this may be it for a long while. C’mon Heat, tune out the madness and play the game like you did in the last two series.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Max

    Hope they can’t, they can win it all next season, or the season after that, or after that,…
    The Mavs don’t have that possebility.

  • grant

    maybe lebron should take his talents 2 the 4th qtr?

  • bull22

    the series is not over yet but the mavs proved they are a team with the same aspirations as the HEAT… no real fan cares about next season right now, just the next game which is sunday…

  • T-Money

    Can they? I think they can. But this is not just about Miami, Dallas is playig well enough to win too. I’d be shocked if it doesn’t go 7. And then… no clue.

  • Ali

    Bron has something else on his mind AGAIN in the playoffs! Have ya’ll heard the rumors about Rashard Lewis banging Lebron’s long time girlfriend/mother of his kids? Get it done Sunday DALLAS!!!! Your over due Dirk and Kidd!!

  • http://www.nba.com Alf

    do you remember moments of Jason Kidd?

    Do you remember when he and Gary Payton used to rock it in Oakland?
    Do you remember when he rocked it at Cal University?
    Do you remember when he was initially drafted by Dallas?
    Do you remember him balling with Jamal Mashburn, Jimmy Jackson?
    Do you remember his beef with them?
    Do you remember Toni Braxton?
    Do you remember when he used to be known as ‘Ason Kidd?
    Do you remember when he was with the Suns?
    Do you remember when he used to ball with Shawn on the Suns before Shawn was the Maxtrix?
    Do you remember his ex-wife? [Hottie!]
    Do you remember him balling with Penny?
    Do you remember his ‘oops to Kenyon?
    Do you remember his ‘oops to Vince?

    Well, I don’t.

    I most remember Jason Kidd as the guy who got his @$$ kicked in the NBA finals twice by San An.

    So I don’t care what Lebron/Miami does or does not do. 3rd time is the charm or the strikeout. Go Kidd.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Where you at Eboy? Get ready to cry into your Fruit Loops on Monday morning son…

  • T-Money

    max: why couldn’t the mavs win it all next year? remember that caron butler is not playing. the only really old dude is jkidd and he can still pass, knock down wide open 3s and – for some reason that I can’t comprehend – stay in front of Kobe, KD, Bron and Wade. JET, Dirk, Barea, Chandler, Haywood, Butler, Marion… they’re all going to play at a high level next year.

  • Myung

    I think if it goes 7, Miami will win it. Normally, when a team wins 2 straight (momentum) and takes a 3-2 series lead, you like their chances (ESPN’s been killing us with that 73% stat)… but in this case, I think the Mavs have closer to a 50% chance of winning the title, even with the 3-2 lead. I think Dallas has to (overused phrase coming up) play Game 6 like it’s a Game 7. Since I’m rooting for Dallas in this series, I hope they come out lights out like they did vs. LA in Game 4 of their series. Nothing silences an opposing home crowd like a bunch of 3′s and a big deficit that results from it. The Lakers were demoralized that day because Dallas absolutely shot the lights out. If your opponent cannot miss from downtown, you will lose. If Dallas rains down 3′s and quiets the Miami crowd, Dirk and Jason and JET will raise the trophy Sunday night. If it’s a close game, Miami will win it. And I just do not see a home team losing a deciding game 7. So play like Game 6 is your last game of the 2011 NBA season, Mavs, and bring the trophy home.

  • Ali

    @ Wayno…Word up! Kidd has put in major work in for YEARS! He will be on my Top 5 PG EVER list, when it’s all said and done. Check his H.S., College and Association history. He’s due!

  • mj23

    what if lebron’s jumpshot is broke again and JT has the sweetest quickest jumpshot. lebron didn’t even move when he hit that 3 pointer in his grill.
    i would talk a lot of sh*t after embarrassing someone that way.

  • mj23

    JT is the mvp. Lebron is a choke artist.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Max

    @ T-money
    I stated it wrong, Mavs chances get smaller, the Heat’s chances will rise in the next couple of years.
    CHECK THIS OUT:
    Most funny thing ever:
    I saw LeBron today and asked him for $1, but he only gave me $0.75, I asked him “where’s the rest” and he said “I don’t have a 4th quarter”

  • T-Money

    and about lebron, he actually was engaged yesterday. 8-19 fg is not good but it’s not wtf-is-happening bad either. If you look closely, the main difference between yesterday and a normal Bron games is he went to the line twice instead of 8-10 times. I thought there were some calls that could have gone his way but hey… not why they lost the game.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People really hate LeBron. It’s kind of scary. I honestly was “meh” about dude before this year, but all the hate has made me root for him to succeed.
    I don’t understand the level of hatred. I have heard all the reasons, but the level of animosity is just weird to me. I was on Facebook and I was shocked at how people reacted. People whose basketball opinions I respect.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    Whoa, T-Money. he was engaged and then Rashard Lewis got her?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Allen, the reason is jealousy + “The Decision” + his general demeanor and how he carries himself. I don’t hate the guy, I never have (I’m not a huge fan either), but I can see why people do.

  • T-Money

    Allen: yeah, it’s a bit weird. Although, most of the Bron haters I know among my friends are Kobe/Lakers fans. What I find odd is that the casual fans I know still really like him and don’t get what all the fuss is about with the Decision. My mom actually asked me this week why people were still talking about a TV show from last summer (she doesn’t know much about basketball beyond the NBA all-stars). It’s just weird. But you know what? Life must still be nice for LeBron James, lol.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    It is truly sad how this hatred is gushing forth.
    I want, no i need the Mavs to win, but the animosity and schadenfreude directed at a player who not too long ago was the darling of the general media is sickening.
    The rumors about the women in his life, the gloating when he doesn’t score 40 per game, it’s pathetic.
    Are there many fans of this sport left or is it just people enviously hoping for these players to fail?
    This is insane.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    LONG… LIVE… THE KING!

  • Jamaal87

    @ Eboy

    You better get your fishing gear ready!! Oh, and don’t forget your neon glow sticks, along with your Enrique Iglesias CD’s…

  • mj23

    I don’t hate Lebron, but I hate the Miami Heat and their whinny fans.
    I wish Lebron had not gone to MIami, that is the problem. NY>Miami, Chi-town>Miami, ATL>Miami, Dallas>Miami, Cleveland>Miami. Miami is not a basketball town, and never will be. There fans don’t even show interest in the team, and maybe if Lou diamond Phillips wasn’t there coach then they might have better luck.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Allen, Darksaber:
    You gentlemen know just as well as anybody else that this entire society, and all of humanity are hateful. It surprises me that you are surprised or saddened. Or have a sense of scare. People enjoy hating on other people for no apparent reason. People enjoy watching people struggle or fail.

  • http://espn.com ubestNOTmiss

    This is all built for TV.
    Build you up just to tear you down. but like air he will rise.
    Bron will go ghostface x rocky on your @sses come sunday.
    He’ll turn into a bulldozer with a wrecking ball attached. He aint been hungry since the 2009 Orlando series. Not even close to 2007 detroit series.
    But come sunday when the heat plays at home. No bullsh!t offensive fouls will be called not even bogus loose ball fouls on haslem. None of that.

  • LeBron de Con

    E-Boy, where you at? Jump on this.

  • Marklewis2307

    The question is, will the HEAT repeat next year? their gonna win game 6 & 7! They will be much better at home

  • mj23

    Lebron will shrink again!!

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    It’s hard to root for someone who proclaims themselves the King and is the most overrated superstar ever. Ain’t no f*cking hate. Allenp is in denial about ride Bron’s jock like all the rest of pseudo Miami fans.

  • http://espn.com ubestNOTmiss

    @Alf what i do remember about him was that he was a wife beater and he bleached his hair blonde probably after seeing wesley snipes in demolition man or after sisqo’s video of the “thong song”

  • ClydeSays

    As for the LBJ hate, I didn’t like last summer’s Debacle either, but people need to get over it. You have to acknowledge that dude is a great player. Doesn’t matter if you’re a Heat fan or not. Same with Dirk, Durant, Rose, Kobe, etc. Some guys are incredible players. I am rooting for the Mavs in this series just bc I feel like they’ve been knocking at the door since the Nash days, but could never break through. They hit some sick shots down the stretch to win it. Game 6 should be a good one.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Philo
    As much as I am a cynic, I still tend to give people the benefit of the doubt about certain things.
    I don’t expect people to glory in the failure of others. Maybe that’s because I’m self absorbed and I assume people share my thoughts on the world. I hate seeing people fail, it makes me uncomfortable most of the time. My wife gets angry because if we’re watching television I will turn the channel when people are failing, even if that’s the most compelling portion of the program for some people.
    Plus, I don’t think Lebron is “failing” I just think he’s struggling with his jumper. Aside from not shooting well, and not getting to the free throw line, dude played a very good game for much of that game. Hell, he had a triple double!
    But everybody was calling him a choker and a loser and all kinds of other cruel names. I’m not above cruelty, but it just felt strange to see so much animosity directed a 26-year old pro athlete who, while arrogant and self-centered, is not unusually so.
    Oh well, like T-Money said, LeBron will survive. Lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    When you sell people something and they buy it, and then when it turns out that what you sold them isn’t the highest quality product that you said it would be, people get pissed. And that’s where we find ourselves with LeBron James right now.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lightsout

    i normally take no pleasure in seeing an athlete fail. to me, these are all unbelievably talented, hardworking guys whose skills should be admired and praised. but this heat team is an exception. lebron’s ‘the decision,’ the party that took place shortly thereafter–come on, they put themselves in this place. the basketball junkie in me will be amazed when this heat team reaches its peak (and that could still be this series), and part of me even looks forward to it, but for now, i’ll enjoy seeing a team that did everything they could to hype themselves up fall short.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    “Those who hate most fervently must have once loved deeply; those who want to deny the world must have once embraced what they now set on fire.”
    (Kurt Tucholsky)

  • Ali

    @ Darksaber…As a die-hard sports fan, He** yeah I want some particular teams/players to fail, some more that others! We all have our reasons for why we feel the way we do. That’s what makes us watch and love the game! I’m not a Dallas fan, but I’m pulling for J-Kidd and Ty Chandler, D. Stevenson, (Cali Natives)…Muggs ain’t got no pitty for that hometown back turning dude, Hahaha….

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The same fools who said why do people hate on Bron are the same ones who constantly hate on Kobe. I have never seen such a big double standard in sports. Maybe he is a nice guy off the court but on the court he is a whiny baby who pouts when he doesn’t get his way and is yet to live up to all the hype.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    When you have a championship celebration party before a season even starts its pretty hard to root for someone. The list goes on. I’m also sick of everytime he struggles somebody gotta be F*cking his loved ones.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    “I watch gangster flicks and root for the bad guy.
    Turn it off before it end cuz’ the bad guy died…”
    (Curtis Jackson)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lebron’s jumper is off, so his confidence is shaky, the defense is good which magnifiies those problems and his teammates are good so he can give in to his natural impulse to pass when he’s not feeling it.
    It’s not really complicated. It’s maddening, but not complicated.

  • Ali

    Hahahaha…Thank you Kap! Hahaha….

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kap
    I think the comments about his loved ones are examples of the hatred.
    It’s disgusting that people say and believe that stuff with no proof at all. Same folks would hate to walk in those same shoes.

  • Ali

    Word up! THANK YOU Kap! nuf said…

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Jamaal87: That comment directed towards LeBoy was downright hilarious. All that’s missing for LeBoy’s fishing trip is the “E”. Ha ha ha, we tease because we care.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    @AllenP, I agree with you, the passionate hate against LeBron makes me root for him too. To me he’s the best basketball player in the world (no, he’s not playing like it now) but he’s too good to go down like this. I would absolutely love it if he dropped 50 and 40 to win a championship. Just because I appreciate, love and hope for greatness.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    “Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.”
    (Coretta Scott King)

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Let me be clear, i dislike Kobe Bryant. His ‘tude, his mimicry, the whole sordid affair in Colorado, the utter oncourt selfishness, i disliked all that. For a while, i even hated him.
    But damn if i didn’t enjoy watching him battle the Celtics, owning the Jazz, kill OKC etc. these last few years. At times, utterly unstoppable offensive arsenal. I can respect that, his perceived other flaws be damned. There is no question that he is an otherworldly basketball talent.
    People won’t even openly admit that Bron is a fantastic player. That’s just blatantly wrong.

  • Myung

    mj23, being an Atlanta fan, I appreciate your shout out, but I’m not sure you should throw our city in with all those other cities. We don’t deserve it. haha. I will say, in defense of our town, the thing people tend to forget about Atlanta is 1. We’re a city of transplants (tons of people live here who aren’t from here) and 2. There’s more to do in this city than just watch sports and 3. Football is King in the South. Atlanta loves basketball (please don’t confuse “basketball” with “its pro basketball team”), but it’s not nearly on the same level as football. As far as Miami goes, I know a few hardcore Heat fans (guys who’ve been around since they first showed up in Miami during the Rony and Glen Rice days, and eboy is part of this group of loyal fans), but those guys seem to be few and far between. But even as bandwagon-y and lame as the Miami crowd is (it has to be one of the worst home crowds in the NBA), I’d still put them over Atlanta. I can’t imagine a worse home crowd than ours. I love my team and my city, but our Hawks crowd is an embarrassment, and I hate when we’re on national TV vs. big name teams (LAL, CHI, BOS, NYK, MIA). I think Miami and Atlanta are great CITIES for pro athletes to to live in, but as far as CROWDS go, they’re probably among the worst in the NBA… and I think we’re the worst.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    So people are pissed because they believed the hype and it turned out to be a lie?
    They are mad because they believed in Nike?
    The same Nike that told us that Jordan was a great guy, when all the evidence said that he was an arrogant, evil bastard, who screwed everything moving and may have a gambling addiction?
    Or that Barkley didn’t have to be a role model, before selling the idea that Kobe was the perfect cat to have your kids emulate?
    LeBron is exactly what he’s always been his whole career. The proof was there for anybody watching him. Nothing has changed except people’s feelings about what they’ve always been watching.
    Seems like a cop out.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    He did not play well in the fourth. He turned the ball over twice and only shot he made was one Dallas conceded so they wouldn’t give up the three. He looked nervous and he didn’t want the ball in his hands at all.

  • http://www.nba.com/celtics lights out

    Bron is a fantastic player. So is Wade. oh, and for the record, I would never bring up anything about LeBron’s family or his girlfriend for the purpose of making fun of him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The Heat still definitely have a chance to win two straight at home. My Lakers did it last season when alot of people counted us out.

  • Ali

    Muggs are real sensitive these days. The Pussification of America at it’s finest!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The fate of this series lays on Lebron’s shoulders. If Game 5 was really supposed to be the biggest game of his career, then I don’t see how the Mavs don’t win.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Exactly Darksaber.
    Kap, if you think I’m a jockrider, then that’s what you think.
    LeBron is one of the three best basketball players in the world, easily. Last series he played like the best, and none of the people currently reveling in his failure said “Oh wow, this dude is awesome, he is clutch, this is amazing.”
    To me, that’s a sign of a problem. Even if I’m not a fan of a player, I don’t hate their success. Because they had to earn that success. They had to put in work to be that great. I am impressed with the work that Kobe puts in, even if I don’t think he’s a good human. His work is worthy of respect.
    Same with LeBron.
    Obviously some of y’all disagree. That’s life.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    No Allen…
    Regardless of how those guys were as individuals away from the court, there was no debating who they were on the court. So if my comment is a ‘cop out’ then you’re doing what you always do when it comes to dude, and that’s make excuses.

  • Myung

    Dark, first of all, I’m so happy for you that your favorite team is in position to get that ring. So there’s that, my friend. But I’ve got to ask you… when you wrote “People won’t even openly admit that Bron is a fantastic player. That’s just blatantly wrong.”… are you saying there are people out there like this? I’ve never heard anyone ever say LeBron is not a fantastic player. Some might not give him “best in the world” status and a lot of people certainly hate the kid, but anyone who wouldn’t put him in at least the top 5 (to make room for subjectivity) is trippin. I don’t like LeBron. I don’t hate LeBron. I’m very apathetic towards him. But to me, he’s the best in the world. He isn’t perfect, but he’s still better than anyone else I see, game to game. Does he deserve all this hate/scrutiny? Probably not, but even Bron apologists have to admit he’s brought at least SOME of it on himself. That being said, again, who on earth is questioning if he’s a fantasic player or not? He might fall short of expectations, fall short of the hype, and fall short of his perceived status as #1 player in the game, but if anyone who actually knows the game of basketball doesn’t think LeBron is at least a top 5 talent in the NBA, he/she should probably follow another sport.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @Allenp…there you go being hypocritical. You question why people hate Bron and then you go and say you don’t think Kobe is a good human when you don’t even know the guy. C’mon man…

  • Fat Lever

    Anyone find it ironic that Wade is mocking someone else for an injury/illness? This is the same dude that needed a wheelchair to be taken off the court for a shoulder injury. Dirk has been all business, not even staying on the court after the win for an interview. Respect.

  • mj23

    myung, i’m from Chi-town and been a fan since ’91 when we beat the Lakers. Our fans are one of the best.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I agree with Allen. Lebron’s skill on the court is probably the only reason I still somewhat like him.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    And for the record, I’m not hating on LeBron James. I’m hating on the fact that when dude doesn’t perform, the ones who want to hold him accountable are ALWAYS branded as haters by the millions of people who line up to give him virtual hugs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    And if he does succeed(even though guys like JTaylor would be gloating and dissing Kobe full-force)I’d be happy for him, somewhat.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    In Game Four I said he played like crap.
    Last night I said his jumper was off and he played well otherwise.
    Those are excuses? Am I wrong?
    I don’t get it. If you know ball, point to what Lebron could have done besides hits shots?
    I don’t see anything. He got in the lane, got doubled and passed. I guess he could have forced a shot, but when your teammates are Bosh and Wade, I can see why that would see stupid.
    He took shots late, and he missed them.
    So he failed to make shots.
    Game Four was an utter failure overall, Game Five wasn’t. That’s honestly how I see it.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I don’t think anyone questioned his status as one of the best in the world but when ESPN starts publishing articles entitled, “Why James is better than Jordan there is something that needs to be said. There has clearly been a bias towards him from journalists that I find very unprofessional (ESPN). That’s where my hate comes from. I don’t like people trying to bang ideas into my head and brainwash me. Its an insult to my intelligence.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kap
    Did I say I hated Kobe?
    Do you know how many people aren’t good humans by my definition?
    That doesn’t mean I hate them.
    Bryan Crawford
    What is holding him accountable? Saying he played poorly or failed to accomplish certain goals? Point to where I’ve refused to do that.
    Accountable seems to mean saying he’s a horrible choker, he will never be on the same level as Jordan and that he’s a fraud.
    I won’t do that. He has weaknesses and he has strengths, both have been on display in this playoffs. What else is there to say?

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Myung: on this very Website there have been countless statements from commenters and even a contributor or 2 as to Bron’s talent level. Some gems (this are from memory only):
    - Athlete, not really a baller
    - not a closer/leader/that good a defender
    - fundamentals suck
    And on it goes.
    And as Allen stated, all is fairly quiet when he has great games or series (that Bulls ECF was pure Bron imo) but as soon as he struggles, the hate flows. So, yeah, don’t need to wait for Gregg D’s ‘analysis’ to see that their are doubters out there.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Who thinks LeBron is better than Jordan?
    Like seriously, how many people do you know who believe that?
    Our of 100 basketball fans, how many will hold that opinion?
    ESPN makes money off page clicks. They will do ANYTHING to drive traffic to their site. ANYTHING

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    They haven’t said he’s better than Jordan, Kap. But Henry Abbott(probably the worst of all the writers from espn.com when it comes to the nba) did call Lebron the second-coming of Jordan.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Kap:
    So, you hate The King because someone ELSE said he was good?
    Oh.
    Then, you should hate every player in basketball who was said to be good. Even Kobe Bryant.
    You don’t hate Kobe Bryant?
    That is hypocritical.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Just because he got a triple double doesn’t mean he played well. Anyone with eyes can see that he played awful in the fourth. He looked scared and nervous. How is that hating? In contrast, Kobe had 42 against the Celtics in a game in LA in January and shot above 50% but because he didn’t come through at the end everyone said that he played bad. What is the difference in this situation? Isn’t that a double standard? Hypocrisy?

  • Myung

    i know it, mj23. Bulls fans are among the league’s best. No doubt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I really didn’t understand it, that’s probably the worst article written on espn.com

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Yes, I know ball, Allen. And I know that freaking JJ Barea played a visibly more aggressive offensive game than Bron did. So did Dwyane Wade with a bad hip. So yes you’re making excuses because when your jumper isn’t falling, you attack the basket. You try and draw fouls and get to the line to get yourself going. Basketball 101.
    Yes he drove and made some key passes which were the right plays, but where was his takeover mentality? Where was the mentality that said I’m not going to let my team lose, especially when DWade went down? That was the time for him to do it. But he didn’t.
    Yeah, he had a triple-double, but so what? It’s not the 10 assists and rebounds, but the 17 points that I have a problem with. If he plays a dominant offensive game, the likes that we’ve seen before where he’s imposed his will on the opposition, Miami is up 3-2. Or better yet, 2011 NBA Champions.

  • Manu

    kidd lost once 2 LA not twice 2 sanantonio haha numscul

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    You guys are missing my point. A guy is getting praised when he has never won ish. That was what I was referring to when I mentioned the bias journalism. Personally, up until the finals he was playing like the best in the league and the dude is a beast but I just dislike him as a player. Simple as that.I didn’t like him before “the decision” and I didn’t like him after. I’ve never been a fan.

  • Myung

    But Dark, that’s just nitpicking. People nitpick because we as basketball fans hold Bron to the highest of standards. We don’t nitpick Brian Cardinal’s game. We sometimes nitpick an All Star’s game (Al Horford, Zach Randolph, etc). But with LeBron? We not only nitpick, but we put every single word, cough, Tweet, fingernail chew, and step under a microscope. It’s crazy the amount of scrutiny he gets. The other night, the analysts were literally breaking down his plays on replays like, “See right here, where he allowed Jason Terry to get by him.” He is literally dissected like a frog in science class. I think it’s nuts. But what I’m getting at is, are those people nitpicking (I say YES) or are they saying he is not a fantasic basketball player (I doubt it) or are they just trying to stir the pot (possibly). If people believe in their heart of hearts that he is (in spite of his few shortcomings) not a fantastic basketball player, they seriously are not worth anyone’s time of day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I gotta agree with Bryan on this one.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    The King is the only player in NBA History who can amass a triple double on call, and get crucified for it.
    Amazingly hilarious AND humorously witty. lol

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    But I guess stating the obvious makes me a hater.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Everybody said he played bad Kap? Really? That is a lie and you know it. People give Kobe his props as long as he doesn’t shoot his team out of the game. Period.
    And you honestly think that LeBron put up a “poor” triple double? Like, you watched the game, watched how the defense played him, and you think his triple double was bogus?
    If that’s what you think then there really isn’t anything to discuss. I thought dude made smart plays throughout the game. I thought he clearly lacks confidence in his jumper right now, and given his skillset, that makes it harder for him to take over offensively.
    Bron isn’t a great breakdown player. He isn’t going to use a whole bunch of dribble moves to kill his defender. He’s going to blow by you with a quick move, or he’s going to hit a jumper. He doesn’t have confidence in his post game, nor is he totally comfortable, so he’s not going to just bully people on the block. If his jumper isn’t falling, and you build a wall to refuse to allow him easy lanes to the rim, he’s going to struggle to find his offense.
    This has been the case for a while. The only difference is that lately, his jumper has been falling. This series it’s not.
    Great players struggle with their shots at times. It happens to all of them.
    But, whatever, people are going to think what they think. I’m through arguing about it.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Interesting pov, Myung.
    I can understand the dissection of the frog, this is the blog age after all, where everyone’s an expert, but i can’t determine intent in a comment section unless it’s super obvious.
    And his talent has been called into question numerous times.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    The Heat were +3 when WAde was out, and -6 when he was in the game before the injury.
    Did you see that stat when they showed it right after Wade first came back? They made a run, AFTER Wade got injured.
    Lebron was a shooter by necessity in Cleveland. T_money and I have had this argument because I believe dude doesn’t have a “scorer’s” mentality as his default setting. He will score if he has too or if he’s feeling it, but what he’s most comfortable doing is making plays.
    Some players will force a shot over a double team no matter what because they just believe that’s the right move to make. LeBron is not one of those cats. He’s done it, but it’s not what he would prefer to do.
    If you get in the lane, and the team brings a hard double, you either take a tough shot, or you move the ball to open players. If you’re team sucks, you take the tough shot. If your team doesn’t, you move the ball.
    That’s how I see it.

  • All Day

    Do I think LeBron is the best basketball player in the world? No, but he should be. What’s preventing LeBron from becoming the same type of dominant player as an MJ, Isiah, Bird, Magic, or Kobe? LeBron lacks a killer instinct. I’m amazed that most people can’t see that. I understood what Pippen meant when he made the comparison between MJ and LeBron. From a talent and skill standpoint, we’ve never seen a player as big, strong, fast, and skilled as LeBron. What Pippen should have said was LeBron has the POTENTIAL of becoming the greatest player ever…however, that will never happen, because LeBron lacks the killer instinct required to take over, control, and dominate a game in crunch time.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I didn’t say anything about his triple double but I did say he played poorly in the fourth quarter. He had some bad turnovers and settled for tough shots.

  • Cizzo

    Man the Heat is on now… The Hot Seat…. WIn or lose I will Never Like the South beach BAbies… They are too Beotchmade to cheer for especially Bron…

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Anyways…
    Bad coaching. Spoelstra is in over his head. He has been all year. He doesn’t know how to put his troops in the best possible position to succeed.A deer in headlights. You can see it in his eyes.
    And, one can argue that the players got to The Finals purely AND solely off of sheer talent, ant wherewithal.
    In my opinion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Ehh Allen not really right about the Kobe statement. People on this site bashed the hell out of his performance in Game 7 of last year’s finals even though he got to the line when his jumper wasn’t falling and posted a career high 15 rebounds that LA desperately needed in order to win.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Whatever, Allen.
    “People nitpick because we as basketball fans hold Bron to the highest of standards.”
    I think Myung just summed it up beautifully with that statement. Real talk, we shouldn’t even be having this conversation about LeBron James at all. I’m gone…
    This is ridiculous.

  • mike

    How many people think Eboy is crying right now?

  • Myung

    I don’t think anyone should blame coach Spo for the losses because no one is giving him any credit for the wins. It’s a two way street. If you say you won in spite of the coaching, then you can’t lose because of it.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Black Phantom
    Kobe got bashed in Game Seven because he was taking ridiculous fallaway jumpers over double teams when he could have easily worked the ball inside to Bynum or Gasol who were feeling it. When the game began, Kobe was playing hero ball, and throughout the game, he took shots he didn’t need to take. That’s his Achilles heel.
    Criticism is part of the game. But, if I refused to succumb to the meme that Rose was a chucker because he shot over double teams, I refuse to succumb to the meme that Bron was scared because he passed out of double teams.
    Rose shot because he’s the best offensive option. LeBron passed because he wasn’t.
    Different situations. Dude needs to hit shots. That’s it. If his jumper starts falling, his entire game will open up.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Interesting subplot here: people trying hard to bait Eboy into a response.
    And E’s pulling a Cubes lately.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron entered the 4th quarter last night with 15 points, 6 assists, and 7 rebounds. And proceeded to be double teamed the whole 4th quarter. — He should be more aggressive and recognize when he should be scoring, but he is not the reason the Heat lost. The Mavericks won that game. The Heat didn’t lose it. That was one of the best shooting performances by a team ever, and its being f’n ignored because so many haters are OBSESSED with trying to make everything about ho LeBron and the Heat are overrated. News Flash: Nobody would have beat the Mavericks shooting like that, NOBODY.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Man, let it go NBK.
    The Mavs at one point were 12-18 from three. That’s insane. Now, some of that was poor defense, but some of that was just awesome shooting.
    But, Bron was still the difference. If he gets 25, the Heat probably win because it changes how Dallas handles things.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Myung:
    There were times in these Playoffs where I thought Spo was solid. Not great, but solid.
    But, point taken.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    nbk:
    The Pistons of 89-90 would have. lol

  • LP

    Someone please tell Lebron James the rules….HAND DOWN, MAN DOWN….

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Allenp
    Very true, but my point is not many people gave him credit for the good that he did in that game. Hell, some people criticize his 81-point game, even though they were losing by 19 points. Lebron is going through the same thing, of course he deserves some criticism, he was pretty much absent in the fourth quarter when it came to scoring when both he and his team needed him too.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Maybe the Heat would have won IF LeBron scored 25, but I feel like no matter who was playing, or how good they are playing, when a team goes 13-19 from 3 (68.4%) and 39-69 (56.5%) from the field there is no way to beat that, not without forcing a sh*t-ton of turnovers. I hate not giving credit to the Mavericks for this win, they deserve it. 4 of the 5 starters (all but Barea) had a plus/minus over +10

  • http://hoopism.com airs

    @allenp, im just wondering, if lebron gets 25, 10 rebs, and 6 assists, do the heat still win?
    cuz its ultimately the same thing.
    i gotta say i missed most of the game and heard it on the radio, but if he was being doubled yet was able to get 4 assists in that 4th quarter, i think he still did more than an adequate job.
    i mean its a tiriple double, come on

  • EtheKnickFan

    Tim Donaghy says big money’s on Dallas. When you want to know something ask the professionals.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    here comes another Bron jockrider. The heat had a four point lead and Bron tried to become Mr. Closer and proceeded to miss his shots and then he let Terry shoot instead of making him put the ball on the floor like the scouting report says. So NBK, Lebron was somewhat responsible for the loss.

  • AQWORD

    Thats why not many bought what you sold Brian when you said the Bulls will beat the Heat as Miami manhandled Chicago.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    ^Bad coaching.
    Even Wade has told the world that Spo doesn’t know how to get his team in position to win, and how Gregg Popovich knows how to get his respective team in position to win.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah Kap LeBron is somewhat responsible for the loss. So is everyone else on the Heat. So what? You know who is most responsible for the outcome of the game? The Mavericks.

  • bull22

    all of you miami whiners and lebron lovers are ridiculous, the series is not over and here some of you are talking about who was beat in the last round… i highly doubt they are hated as people, its their arrogance and
    showboating that people hate… give the mavericks credit, they are taking it to these overrated jokers and have gone beyond all expectations…

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I just know that it’s gonna be tough for Dallas to win in Miami. I expect Miami to start the game with alot of energy and to get a big lead early similar to what the lakers did last year in game 6.

  • Harlem_World

    They’re up 3-2 and I still won’t allow myself to believe the Mavs can win it all. I’d be real happy for J Kidd and Dirk if they did, but I just have this underlying feeling that Wade + Bron are going to go all out and both come to play, for which, Dallas has no answer. Dirk must get in the groove early and keep it going all game. The others gain confidence when he shows he cannot be stopped. By rights, the Heat shouldn’t win this year. They can’t just make the ‘decision’ and win it all from the jump – that just feels wrong.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kap
    So, he missed shots.
    And Terry was getting jumpers because he was living in the lane WAY more than he was early in the series.
    You know why he was in the lane? Because Carlisle made an adjustment. He stopped letting Terry camp out in the corner waiting for shots off the pick and roll between Dirk and the point guard. Instead, he started running Terry off multiple screens and force LeBron to chase, and the heat to hedge so he doesn’t just make his curl to the basket.
    That makes it much harder for Bron to lock Terry up, plus Terry is using his ball fake when he catches much more, and because of his shooting, the Heat are over committing when they close out.
    It’s not that LeBron is playing horrible defense, although he’s definitely not locking Terry up, but it’s more that Terry is in better positions to advantage of his natural strengths against a 6’8″ small forward who weighs 260 pounds.
    Little stuff like that is why it’s chess not checkers.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Game 6 is gonna be historic…

  • robb

    They can, but lets see if they want to…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Personally I am very happy the Mavericks won last night. We all finally get to see what the Heat are made of, when their backs are really against the wall. (And these last 2 games don’t seem like a formality)

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Haven’t we seen what happens when their backs are against the wall according to LBJ in his pregame speech in game 4? A hip contusion is nothing nice as well…that injury is a big deal.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah Kap because what LeBron says to get his team motivated is a universal truth. I don’t give a sh*t about a single word that guy or any basketball player says, I am trying to watch them play basketball, not make excuses and try and motivate themselves through exaggerated exclamations that don’t matter at all in the grand scheme of things.

  • T-Money

    BC: I don’t think anyone is arguing that Bron played well. I’m not making any excuses for him because I expect more of him, especially since he played so well vs BOS and CHI. What I don’t understand is why it is so enjoyable for a lot of analysts when Bron fails. Some people people that eerily quiet in the last two series are just jumping up and down for joy now. Why? The hate is too strong for me to understand. And again, I’m not making any excuses for his play.

  • STAYWEIRD38

    hey EBOY you can suck on my big hairy nuts hahaha

  • giogolo

    ^@ mike 12:32
    Me.

  • giogolo

    @ALlenP 11:51 am

    Maybe we forget that Nike a is business entity just like any company. Would shove anything down your throats just as long as u give up ur buck. The only problem..the hype came before the real material. With Bron. Wrong formula. As anybody with half a brain would know. And what most people see and comment on is what happens on the court. We buy your shoes and merchandise bcoz u represent what we think is the right thing as a bball player.Them(media,nike,etc.)can only a market a player so far but at the end of the day people are not that dumb. I personally don’t really care whether the guy beats up wives or is a douche outside the court.It certainly affects my perception of him as a person a bit but wud always give the benefit of the doubt. What matters is how these guys do on the court.We’re watchng a sport that we love. Just like a movie we need people to do the right things. Jordan did that. and he only showed strong positive values. Despite him not really perfect. It was what he did and when he rose to the challenge that lifted poeple up NOT NIKE. IMO.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Eboy step away from the ledge. It’s not your fault. *chuckles*

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @nbk…calm down. I think you and I agree that we wanna see a game 7 that’s tied going into the last minute and how the superstars will perform in that pressure.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Has anyone noticed that Dallas beat Portland when most people picked Portland to upset Dallas? And then Dallas swept LA, but Dallas didn’t “earn it,” it was the Lakers who lost/underachieved. Then against OKC, Dallas was “expected” to win on experience. — ANd now Dallas is not winning because they are doing anything right, they are winning because “Miami and LeBron are not playing good enough.” — Dallas has basically been given no credit for how well they are playing except in the series against Portland, everything is about what their opponents aren’t doing, and it’s the most fallacy filled type of Hating.

  • robb

    @T-Money word man. I thought I was a Lebron hater until I stared reading what all this “analysts” have been saying. They are way off.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’m calm as a cucumber. — It’s cute that people who made such outrageous claims a few weeks or are never even here in the first place are here trying to get Eboy to flame at them. Nothing better to do?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Anyone seen the video of Wade and Bron pretending to be sick like Dirk? Those two ask for the heat they take…

  • Fat Lever

    Some of this scrutiny on lebron is his own doing. When you say it’s the biggest game of your life and its now or never and then you seem disengaged when it’s winning time, well then whose fault is it?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Yep, and I even remember this calculator head who thought it was possible for the Lakers to win 4 straight games against the Mavs, after the Mavs just took a 3-0 series lead. Just giving credit where credit is due! Go Mavs!

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Well, now SUNDAY will be the biggest game of The King’s life…
    And by the way, The King has admitted that he loves the flashing lights when he smiles.
    He HAS to be exalting in all of this.

  • Jackie Moon

    Who gives a crap that he had a triple-double? Am I supposed to “check his $tats”? He didn’t play well enough for his team to win, and he was maybe a B minus in a loss in the “biggest game of his life”.

  • Jackie Moon

    Long … live … THE PRINCE!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    who is IAMSUPPOSEDTOBEBLUE talking to?

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Long live the prince?
    Well, at least you acknowledge his… royalty. LOL!

  • http://slamonline.com 1982

    @Kap I saw that. Just wow… Series is still good, and honestly that’s all I care about, because it’s about the game, not how players can act like jackasses off of it. But that’s just ignorant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    no, kap i haven’t seen the vid. post the link

  • izzo

    Dirk was a laughing stock after the 2006 finals. He averaged 27 and 10.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    BlackPhantom, it’s the first link posted by lightsout at the top of the comments.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    After the Finals?
    Really?
    After GSW series, yeah, but he won MVP the next year after the Finals. Kind of hard to do that and be a laughingstock, right?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    SMH, look at the cat with OCD still not getting it. Jokes on you bub!

  • ab40

    this big three is a failure only two out of the three can play good at the same time and the key to the boston big three playing so well was the pg position they had rondo and cassel(who played all the clutch minutes) to help em out. I had no idea how they were gonna stop LeBron after what he did to boston and chicago but the point is to let Wade play great so LeBron starts passing the ball. When Wade plays great miami is a very good team. When LeBron plays great they are an amazing team.

  • izzo

    Allen: I’m not sure what my point was there. I do think that those finals were the genesis of the ‘Dirk is soft’, ‘Dirk isn’t a winner’ line of thinking, though the GSW certainly did cement it.

    ————-
    That was a Rajon Rondo triple double, not a LeBron James one.

  • bull22

    props to CHERYL the teacher who was brave enough to come out on this site today and not conceding anything, because EBOY must be at the bottom of the
    the bay at american airlines area harpooning fish or something because he is not around today……

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I was a huge Bron fan after the Boston and Chicago series. So far in the Finals, he has been the 3rd best player.
    Dirk is going 1 on 2 and coming out on top, and right now he is likely the best player in the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I heard JVG and Mark Jackson mention the other day that there has been talk of picking the MVP after the play-offs. That is a great idea. Looking back at every game that has been played so far, regular and post-season, know one has been better than Dirk.
    I know I know, MVP is a regular season award, and if Dallas wins Dirk likely gets finals MVP, but regular season MVP awards seem to hold more value when discussing careers/legacies.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Izzo
    I actually think that the genesis was in Dallas way before GSW. I think the Finals appearance allowed him to shake some of that off initially since he went through Nash and Duncan to get there.
    I think that in that Finals it felt like he got abandoned by his team and had a bad shooting series. I didn’t think he was soft until the GSW series when he let midgets guard him.
    And I agree on the triple double. That wasn’t anywhere near his potential, but I think it was a byproduct of his poor shooting not a failure to play hard or be focused. That was more the case in Game Four to me.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Like I said during the season, Dallas actually had the highest win % in the league with Dirk in the lineup, especially before Caron got hurt, infact If Caron Butler didn’t get hurt he would have won MVP, IMO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Dang it I can’t see it! Copyright claim :/

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    This series may go down as one of the Greatest Finals series of All Times.

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    I said on here several times that this Dallas team is different to years past, and that Tyson Chandler made them a championship level team. I just didn’t think they could stay that when Caron went down.

  • flipnoyce

    There’s just no way the HEAT is winning two in a row at home the way DALLAS is playing. The MAVS smells blood in the air and they will go for a kill. Like, I’ve been saying the only way MIAMI was going to win is to have a large margin and if the officials rewards them the CHARITY line. I guess they won’t be having dessert with a cherry on top. Still game 7, MAVS!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com 1982

    @BlackPhantom Try Yardbarker.com, it should be in their top stories.

  • O

    I didn’t think I could lose anymore respect for Wade and James, but after seeing them mock Dirk’s fever before game 5 – RESPECT LOST!!! I mean honestly, how old are they again?!?! Are they really men? Maybe they should start playing in the WNBA with that “mean girls” spirit they walk around with. On second thought, the women of the WNBA are actually mature. These fools make it SO hard to respect them as actual peeps. That said, these jackasses will win the NBA title. I’m sure LeBroad is purposely holding back so that they can win the title in Miami. Doesn’t make him anymore of a man.

  • http://slamonline.com Tae

    Im a die hard Lakers fan and i respect Dallas for sweeping such a good team. But i wanna see Dirk and especially Kidd get their 1st rings. Its been a long time comin for Kidd. But i cant stand Lebron, Wade is aight. But boy i would love to see them go down. Cant wait to see what that Kobe hatin, Lebron and miami di*k rider Bruce Blitz will say when they go down. He sh*tted on my man Kobe and tha Lakers when they got swept

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    I just come back from my time capsule and MIA’ll win it all on tuesday.
    SO can the WhiteHotEboy pls stand up?
    Sorry man, I couldn’t resit.
    I can’t believe u r pulling a BC, @ least he waited 4 CHI 2 b whiped apart by The Heat b4 desappearing and nw he’s been resurrected by LBJ struggles.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING!

  • alex80

    BYE BYE Heat.

  • madterps

    If Dwade is hurting like he was in game 5, then no they will not bounce back. I’m hoping that Mavs will close out game 6 in Miami and that’ll be that for LeBronze.

  • Eddie1

    Philosopher is a fraud. airs is my only real friend on here. Illuminati ish damn.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I like how LeBron went from the best player in the NBA to a non-factor compared to Dwyane Wade, in under 2 weeks.

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    Hating is a big problem in sports but especially here at slam.
    I read the posts after the 2006 Finals and Dirk got busted by nearly everyone. I can only remember 4 or 5 guys that defended him.
    The list of guys who said that Dirk was the softest player of them all after getting his team to the finals ( a big accomplishment itself in my opinion ) included names like Khalid Salaam or WhithotEboy.
    I don’t want to say that this justifies what is happening to LeBron right now because it doesn’t but it shows a general attitude of blasting guys that come short and it is a general problem in basketball and especially this site.
    Maybe all of us should think a second before we post and then talk about basketball. These guys are all human and they have already accomplished so much by advancing to college, the league, the playoffs and finals and then all of a sudden when they have one, two, three bad games they are loosers?????????????????????????????????
    I know that most guys here will not self reflect and go on with their usual posting and most of them will not even read this comment because I’m posting to late.
    I just wanted to share this thought.
    Nice team basketball by the mavs , by the way.

  • mike

    Eboy must have a sinus infection

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    mike aka unf*ckwitable, and everyone else, how often do y’all even talk to Eboy in the first place to be talkin so much ish. His teams in the finals, your team is doing what your doing. save the crap for something that atleast has merit.

  • http://slamonline.com 1982

    Why is everyone acting like this series is over? 2 games. Can Dallas finish Sunday? I’m excited to see who steps up… Trash talking before the Finals are over is like celebrating a championship before the season starts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Did you half-wits really think I’d disapear to duck this loserish crowd? Man, GTFOH. Scare me when the Heat aint got any more games to play. And lets be clear….there’s some lying-a$s motherfuc&ers talking out of both sides of their
    mouth today. Only person who should be gloating is Darksaber. Otherwise, tbe rest of you and your teams are as relevant as the last sh$t I took. See you pu$sies Monday as you quake with the prospect of the Mavs blowing your chances of doing what no other team could do. Cut the head off the Devil….cause right now….that shi&’s still on his shoulders.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    There is the Eboy we know and love.

  • ClydeSays

    That was a great back and forth game until the Mavs finally took control late. Still lots of basketball to be played.

    I doubt LBJ’s legacy will be cemented by this series, unless he comes out and drops two consecutive 50pt games on the Mavs. No matter how these Finals turn out, LBJ will probably be back. They can talk about ‘legacy-defining games’ of his career when he’s 35, not 26.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I figured you were in court dealing with some drunk texan who p*ssed on your lawn or somethin

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    Who, wait, “Mike aka unf*ckwitable”?
    Was the mystery finally solved?
    And good to see Eboy on here.
    That’s my dude.

  • r2j

    2 more wins and Miami earned the title. 1 more win Dirk and Jason Kidd makes Miami’s big 3 bow down and kiss their rings. Godfather style.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeha rigo he answered us that day and said he used to go by just “mike”

  • http://www.bulls.com Rigo Gonzalez

    When was this? Where was I?

  • http://slamonline.com The Fresh Prince of Nsam

    There goes Eboy!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The day you asked like last friday or whenever that was.

  • http://www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    Co sign Speedy, LeBron is getting epic hate whenever his play is less than great, or poor. On this site and from a slew of talking heads thruought TV land, and its reached a boilling point for fans alike in these finals. Growing up an NBA fan in the 80′s like many, i was a captured by the Bird / Magic. Lakers / Celtics rivalry. Then came JORDAN.
    Even though i was already obsessed with MJ in the late 80′s i still considered Magic to be a heavy in the convo of goat with Wilt/Russell/Bird/Kareem/Big-O. Then the Bulls beat the Lakers, and later Magic announced he had HIV…The dissrespect and lack of respect That Magic and his fans had to bear from that point on? it might not have been on message boards or sportscenter but it was prevelant. After the bulls 1st 3peat, if you even insinuated that Magic was in the convo of goat around MOST casual nba fans, you would have faced instant ridicule namecalling like “tragic” or worse this was common. Before that, for the most part the only big hate came from opposing fans. Bulls fans hated Pistons PLAYERS. Lakers fans Boston PLAYERS and so forth. Imo opinion one of the many ways MJ changed the game was how fans follow the game. Before him it was mostly by team. Sure you have favorite players, but you pick a team. Ater him everyone was looking for that next guy to follow, or hate. Now fans watch and root mostly for or against specific players. The first post MJ example we saw of this was Kobe. and we can see how that turned out. He was hated to a level never before seen for an NBA player of his stature. MJ fans, especially did so, next joined the talking heads and journalists to where it became clear that to be in professional sports coverage you no longer had to be unbiased. Even Slam was guilty of this. We see where its at today…and that is one of the ways Kobe changed the game, how fans and journalists follow and report on players. Hate em’ or love em’ based primarily on how you feel about the “guy”. Game and chips, have all become relative. To add to this with the expansion of TV coverage the media down to the internet in your pocket, social networks and gossip sites that track a players every word and action, people FEEL like they know the person. And most are manipulated by innacurate and biased reporting on the regular. LeBron fans who are NOW suprised at “the hate” are mostly unknowingly being naive. By now we have all become hypocrites and at one point or another bought into the new way of following the game.

  • alphabetaherculis

    It’s going to Game 7……LBJ is back home and getting his affairs in order and get some home cooking. He’ll be back on Sunday with fire. I just wanna see Mavs face when they know there are gonna get ’06ed again.

    Remember LAL were down 2-3 vs Celtics too……what happened? LAL won

  • http://www.bulls.com Unf★ckwitable

    Ah, I musta missed that.
    Hmmm…feel like taking that name back….lol

  • Jackie Moon

    Lebron fans now know what it was like to be a Kobe fan for the past 10 years.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Angel of Stern

    Before Dwade came back in the third quarter we were starting to see the cavs Bron. He was dictating the entire offense and I thought it was working so well that I think they could have actually won the game if Dwade just rested up. Im not making excuses for Bron though or saying that Dwade shouldn’t have came back, cause he played a great game, I just feel like Bron was more confident when he was out there by himself.

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    You know, there’s this big argument going on and it seems to center around the different treatment between Lebron and Kobe, but you know what?
    Now they’re being treated the same. Yep.
    I’ve always felt bad for Kobe, because if he takes the shots and loses, he’s a ball hog, but if he doesn’t take the shots and loses, he failed his team. It’s an upsetting double standard for an amazing player. I remember what Kap is talking about: Kobe dropped 40+ on 50%+ plus and people were angry he wasn’t passing. That was BS and I stood up for Kobe, and I did what people were NOT doing: blamed Gasol and Bynum for being too passive. It’s just odd, because I swear the same people were saying Kobe was the best of the best and he was super near Jordan when he won the championship last year.
    But Lebron is sort of getting that treatment too. He rides the hot hand in Wade, knows his shot is off, and tries to play great defense, rebound, and pass, and people say he chokes. He IGNORES the hot hands and chucks shots and isn’t able to make them, and people say he chokes. Yet, when he was winning in Chicago, people said he could be better than Jordan.
    To end this debate: Some people see Kobe getting bum treatment and hate Lebron for it. Some people see Lebron getting bum treatment and hate Lebron for it. Not a good sign.
    Personally, I think Lebron needs a post game more than I really thought… when his shots off, the Mavericks can play this pseudo-double from two sides force him down the middle defense which REALLY bothers Lebron, cause he’s just not comfortable with splitting and he can’t turn on a dime like Wade can. He’s getting some crappy charge calls and it really has taken a bit of his mental toughness out. He’s not choking, but he’d simply prefer to take over the game with defense and passing, and people don’t see that stuff.
    I still predict a game 7 win for Miami, and I expect to see Wade as the finals MVP because Lebron doesn’t have the game to get Finals MVP against the Mavs (unless he triple doubles for the rest of the series)…. but I also predict that Lebron will get a boatload of “THIS IS WADE’S TEAM!” and “Wow best player in the world and he’s the worst player on the court!” until next years finals, where he’s better than Jordan again.
    It’s lame.

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    I also rarely ever change my opinions. I still think Spoelstra is a TERRIBLE coach and everytime Carlisle makes a smart rotation, Spo just sits there and does nothing to counter it. A game of chess this is not.
    And Joel Anthony is still outrageously awful and worse than Big Z/Dampier but because he gets ESPN highlight blocks and Van Gundy/Jon Barry likes him, everyone has forgotten about their hatred for him too.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Not sure how I feel about the new commenting format, SLAM. I used to really like the narrow, centered comments as opposed to this really wide and big-fonted text. Still good, though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Angel of Stern

    I want the old Bron back… the one that used to joke around all the time, throw chaulk pregame, and acutally smile on the court.. also, does anyone thing it would be beneficial for Lebron to lose 10-15 pounds? it seems like the extra weight is slowing him down and stealing a bit of his vertical. He cant really post up so what is all that size really good for? He already gets lame foul calls because people just bounce off of him. I know one of the things that makes him Lebron James is his enourmous size but it seems like it was easier for him to score when he was a bit lighter and quicker.

  • i ball

    i used to have respect for wade. not any more though.
    lebron and wade are punks. chris bosh too. know what im saying? lol
    dirk doesnt play their bull sh!t. fake sh!t in this league is left to them both.

  • i ball

    how much do lebron and wade weight? yet they get as much as touched and they go flying. i dont like most of jeffvg opinions but he’s right they should fine players like wade and james for their actions. i wouldnt be able to stand myself if i won cheating. wheres the pride in that.

  • i ball

    and i know more players do it too but lebron and wade take it to another level. thats lame man. wheres the pride or glory in that? smh. i used to like wade. damn. what a disappointment.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Eddie1:
    What in the hell???

  • i ball

    their attitudes too.
    lame. punks.
    i guess thats why they get along so much.
    three punks got together in the off season. they feel comfortable with each other.

    jet’s burning james out on defense so he has no more gas for offense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @i ball

    D Wade- 210lbs
    LeBron- 250 lbs

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Cosign Angel of Stern. LeBron’s nature really isn’t that of the “Jordanesque I’m gonna kill you.” He really needs to get back to what made him great in the first place.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Damned it you do, damned if you don’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Where have you been, Enig?

  • i ball

    wade and his boyfriend should worry about forth qt. execution/scoring not if nowitski was/is really sick or not. their heads are not in the game theyre too far up their a$$es.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I never left, BlackPhantom!

  • http://www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    @Jukai, you’re right, its a bad sign. Personally i think its beyond a sign now, but the reality of how the common casual fan of of the L’ follows the game. finding someone with an unbiased view of LeBron good or bad is like finding someone with an unbiased view of Sarah Palin. Same goes for Kobe. though He famously accepted it a long time ago and used it to fuel his competetive drive. After his defiant return to Cleveland i thought LBJ had too? Im not so sure he is right now at this critical juncture. Howeva’, Its commical to me that anyone would suggest that a tripple double somehow could be translated into choking. Game 4? sure. But tripple dub? That kind of comment is exposing the real heads from the rookies on this site. For a guy that has been deemed a superior player and talent to DWade, for me, LeBrons deferance to Wade at this point only proves that he is committed to playing team ball to win. Its kinda hard to blame him, he’s never had teammates like Wade, or Bosh, or even guys like Haslem that have played their role on a championship team. With LeBron, fans have seen something new, a guy that can do everything, and has often completely dominated a game in away no player has before. A SF that has the game of a 2G THAT ISNT SOFT plays great D and is in the convo as the games best play maker and passer. Game 5 was actually an example of this. BUT, in the nba finals superstars have the burden of leading in the scoring dept and taking over in crunch time. LeBron needs the rock in his hands more often than any heat player including Wade. DWade can create his own shot and work in the post better than Bron. This needs to be initiated by Spo. If its not so what! Bron needs to be the same guy he was in Cleveland and assume the rsponsibilty of leading and closing out games. Unlike Bron wade has a dominant scorers mentality, hell be ready to score when its his time. Bron needs to be Paul Pierce to Wades Ray Allen. Then they will both get thiers, its clear after 5 games that thats what needs to change.

  • http://www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    @ Enigmatic do you have 4 handles?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Man I ain’t seen you in the threads in weeks man.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    MichaelG, the triple double is respectable. However, the Heat offense was clearly stalling in the final couple of minutes. Shouldn’t the best scorer on the team get a few buckets? The only shot he made in the 4th was an uncontested layup. I feel like 09-10 LeBron is superior to 10-11 Bron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Caboose 09-10 Lebron is definitely waaaay better than 10-11 Lebron

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Nah, just two. And a third one (Unf★ckwitable) once.
    @BlackPhantom – I was going by my real name on here.
    Rigo Gonzalez? That’s me.
    But I’m giving serious thought to switching back to this. Gonna playing around with both lately.

  • ebz

    wow all these supposed basketball fans and cant tell this is fixed watch the games closely its all fixed miami in 7 the big bad 3 will win the title with lebron having two huge games to secure the finals mvp story book ending with mike jordan theatrics included thanks for ruining the sport

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I freakin knew it! Dang it I guessed that like weeks back, but wasn’t really sure.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Yeah BP, this new LeBron just seems like he doesn’t have an identity. Everyone wants him to be the killer villain but he doesn’t have it in him. I hate speculation, but maybe all the hate from fans/media is getting to him?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Ha!
    It wasn’t no secret, lil’ homie.
    I said on here I was gonna switch to using my government name, but like I said, I’m kinda on the fence about it.
    “Enigmatic” has a history on here. That’s still what most people know me as.

  • Slam_Reader

    Eboy, where are you, baby?!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Hey Enig, I know I don’t comment on here much, but I think “Enigmatic” is the way to go. It’s what we all know you as.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Caboose, He doesn’t act like it doesn’t get to him. If it doesn’t get to him I’m sure he’d be playing better right now.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Man, that Eboy response earlier was GANGSTA.
    He just let the insults fly.
    And man it’s nearly impossible to watch the video of the Miami stars mocking Dirk’s illness.
    It’s been deleted from both links posted here.
    DunkGate allover again :)

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    True BP. I’ll be honest, I don’t like the guy but the scrutiny he’s under has to be back breaking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    *better in the 4th quarter

  • B.J.
  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    Dark: they weren’t making fun of Nowitzki. They were making fun of the media making a big DEAL out of Nowitzki’s illness.
    I figured you’d look more into that.
    Wade was asked about it and he said Dirk was a ridiculously skilled player and didn’t need all the dramatics (which one could look as hypocritical, but in a bubble Wade is right). He said Nowitzki never used the illness as an excuse, so the media shouldn’t hype it up either. EVERYONE is injured or sick at this point, but the media chooses the stories to glorify and the ones to ignore.
    That is why Lebron and Wade were joking around about being ill.
    It had nothing to do with Dirk.

  • http://www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    @Caboose, Yeah 09’10 Lebron also had Mo Williams as a 2nd scoring option. That said, you’re right. In this situation, he needs to stop defering to Wade soo damn much and do him. like another commenter suggested…”decide to bring his talents to the 4th qtr”. If Spo cant figure this out after 5 games, and doesn’t put a game plan together that focuses on LeBron being the agressor than he’s gone. This has to be painfull for Riley to watch. He knows what Phil knows. If you have 2 of the best players in the game, and one happens to be the most dominant…HE’S your option #1! and every player in the locker room, like it or not needs to recognize. LeBron is a big boy tho, and he needs to man the bleep up and go handle his Bidness. Its time for him to have a “Lambert” moment.

  • giogolo

    Media is the only way we all can converge from around the world and talk about the game we love Everything is a process. So is Lebrons journey, so is the evolution of following the game. What this players need to put in their heart and their minds is that everyone in the media and casual fans would be humbled if they stay true to what brought them to their position in their first place. Like Magic said, if you love the game of bask etball. It’s just so easy..and all these haters and manipulating media..is just garbage. Kill the competition Lebron. Everyone hates you bcoz ur not doing what ur supposed to do. have a quality game. Be a bigger jason kidd. Stats are nada. Just kill em. Silence em.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Agreed Michael. That said, I would think LeBron would take control of the game even if Spo didn’t run set plays for him. I’m no expert on Miami’s playbook, but it seems that they run plays for the lesser players but just let Wade and LeBron isolate without play calls. I mean, maybe LeBron is staging all this for an incredible home comeback. Sounds crazy, but not out of the question. Either way, the media is gonna kill him for Game 6 if he doesn’t come out guns blazing. However, given what I’ve seen this series, I don’t know if it’ll happen.

  • Niyagirlfresh

    Why are you guys feeling sorry for LeBron the most hated man in the league for the past decade or so Kobe Bryant should feel slighted. I don’t remember people or fans coming out of the woods defending him everyone jumped on the bandwagon to bash him and Kobe didn’t have to do a take my talents to another team interview to be hated he’s been hated for 15 seasons plus for no damn reason lol. But LeBron will come out and play to his level during game 6. All players respond well with their backs against the wall for some reason. I think it’s the scientific boost adrenaline gives your body when it’s nervous, anxious and excited. There’s still two games left in this series. Both teams should have figured one another out by now if not their coaching staff isn’t doing their job. Going to be interesting Sunday. Defense and refs decide the games. I’m going for Dallas because Jason and Dirk need their rings now, Miami has a roster full of fresh legs so they have a couple of runs left before they win a title. Dallas needs it now.

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    Niyagirlfresh
    Kobe as rookie refused to play for the team that drafted him(charlotte) so that they had to pull a trade that send him to LA.
    So he made his way to sunny California without ever playing a game above high school level.
    Think of that before you talk about LeBron’s ways.

  • B-More Mike

    The man REFUSED to play for Charlotte? News 2 me & probably everyone else. Why no has ever brought this up is beyond me, thought that was the logo working his usual magic.

  • B-More Mike

    When you go by the moniker”The King” or “chosen one” and your going 2 be compared 2 all time greats just leave it on the floor. Yeah the greats had bad games, but you never seen them like this on the biggest stage. He is by far the most talented, physically gifted player I’ve ever seen, but the guys he’s compared 2 were stone cold killers who didn’t mind failing as long as they left every ounce of sweat on the court. When you’re given everything as a adolescent, coddled as a pro you don’t know how to handle when someone tells you no. They don’t hand out rings cause you’re the most talented or because you chose 2″ take your talents 2 south beach” I actually think he thought everyone would roll over & just give them the ring. YOU HAVE 2 TAKE IT. People call him the KING 4 what, he ain’t done $hit. I want so bad 4 this guy 2 take off (I thought this was over after the C’s & Bulls) so all this worshipping can be justified by his croonies.

  • B-More Mike

    Now it’s fatigue, 2 weeks ago he was best conditioned athlete who ever walked the earth thanks 2 yoga, pilates & swimming. Now he’s fatigued. I blame the Media 4 some of back & forth with lebron cause 1 minute they you have thinking he’s gods only begotten son the next he’s friggin lucifer over here. Oh yeah Rashard Lewis is linked 2 his baby momma. Google it!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Speedy Kobe didn’t refuse to play for Charlotte, the Lakers really wanted him, he didn’t beg for the trade on draft day.

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    @Black Phantom
    Then german basketball mag ‘Basket’ (only source for B-Ball back then for me) made it up.
    I just read that Kobe wanted to play in a big market and so Divac and someone else got traded for him.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Not to mention that whole thing in Colorado…

  • B-More Mike

    Yeah that thing in Colorado where the broad had 4 different semens in her draws. Gotta love how everybody on this site are stand up, god fearing men & women. Who knows what hides in your closet Caboose?

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    B Moore Mike & Speedy: Kobe’s agent made it pretty clear that no one else should draft Kobe but the Lakers or Kobe may wind up in Italy. The Hornets drafted him cause they knew they could trade him. So yeah, Kobe didn’t refuse to play for Charlotte…. he refused to play for anyone but the Lakers.
    Not saying Kobe’s antics are worse then Lebron’s excuses, just correcting your perceptions of the situation.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Max

    Heat fans click this
    http://imgur.com/e5u9S
    In these bad times, just to cheer you up a bit

  • BostonBaller

    They don’t need to bounce back…they are at home for the next game and possibly a 7th game (I love game 7′s) They are super talented and if The Beast awakens along w/ Wade being Wade they could play out of this world and all the LBJ bashing would be forgotten. lol. I want Kidd to get a ring so I’m pulling for The Mavs but when it’s all said and done I just want to see some great ball games. This has been a great series!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Thanks Jukai, I knew he wanted to play for LA, but I was like going on 2 when he was drafted(yeah im very young, started watching b-ball in ’99)so I didn’t know absolutely everything but I know he didn’t really REFUSE to go to Charlotte like Eli Manning in the ’04 NFL Draft when he refused to go to San Diego.

  • pca

    I hope Miami Heat loses (sorry Heat fans)
    James and Wade need to grow some humility (making fun of Nowitzki) that was nasty, foolish and a bad example for young fans.

    Go Dirk

  • http://slamonline.com Jukai

    B-More Mike: Even a promiscuous girl has a right to tell a guy no to bending her over a chair and ripping her a-hole open. Her being a smut doesn’t give Kobe the right to do what he wants to her. Even if she agreed to sleep w/ him, she said no to that and he didn’t listen. Kobe is arrogant and felt he was entitled to be an uninvited an*l guest. That’s one of the reasons ppl don’t like him. I know you won’t understand why that is wrong, because you guys in Baltimore do that type of stuff to boys and girls alike from the time you are teens, but it’s wrong.

  • B-More Mike

    I’m just saying everybody an all-American when it comes to judging others. I like Kobe & Lebron so if either had a run in with a chick Im not getting on slam talking high & mighty cause it could easily be me. As far as guys in Baltimore raping, naw we don’t do that. We sell drugs & get money. Do your research before you come out your mouth sloppy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Damn Kobe…

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    B-Moore Mike: The 7:15 post ain’t mine, someone grabbed my screen name. I’d never say ‘ppl’

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Kobe really did that? I mean she comes into your room and you pull THAT?? I don’t think I’d ever do an*l, it’d probably be weird as hell.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Yo Eboy, getcha glow sticks, E, and house music ready! The Mavs are soon to be world champs, baby.

  • Kyle

    It’s so hilarious that people are saying that LeBron is one of the top 3 basketball players on this planet. At times he’s been the 10th best player in the 4th quarter(almost every game in the Finals so far.) Does that make sense?

    He and Wade are injuries waiting to happen, and Dirk’s style of play is something that will get better with age. I think most guys would rather have Howard, Wade, Kobe(even if he’s getting older), Dirk, Paul, Durant because of his age, or Nash who’s a better point guard(I know James would rather pass in the 4th quarter but is that what he’s paid to do?) Deal with it… he’s overrated.

    Look at the numbers in the fourth quarter… Haslem is outscoring him.

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    ^^^ I feel most guys would still rather have Lebron. Just BTW.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I’d rather have Lebron if we’re talking Cleveland Cavs Lebron and it’s the whole quarter instead of the last shot.

  • Basketball Beast

    Yea i know with heat playin at home. they will win i bet they will win. if not lebron did not play his hardess

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    I don’t really think there is a difference between the Cleveland Cav Lebron and the Miami Heat Lebron. I think he’s having a subpar series and is having trouble decision making, juggling between finding scoring opportunities and not throwing off Wade, who is performing wonderfully.
    I mean, does the Chicago and Boston series 4th quarters count as Cleveland Cavs Lebron or something?

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    So Kobe refused to play for any team but the Lakers.
    Makes it even worse.

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    Thanks for the info, Jukai.

  • http://www.slamoline.com Max

    @ Jukai
    Lebron having troubles making ‘decisions’?
    DAMN!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Carmelo will be playing long after LePrince and Wade are both finished. BOOK IT!

  • Marklewis2307

    At the end of the day why doesn’t everyone just wait and judge Lebron when is playing days are over!! I remember a game when Jordan only scored 10 and things turned out ok for him! Now I’m not saying lebron is the next Jordan but if mikes so much better than Bron like everyone on here is quick to highlight surely that goes to show even the greatest players have subpar games now and then!!! Let’s just see how many rings he has in 8-10 years and then talk

  • Harlem_World

    Jukai, the thing about Wade and Lebron making fun of the ‘illness’ is they are both media vets, they know by now if they throw the media a bone they’ll turn it into gumbo. Trying to back track and say it has nothing to do with Dirk is bullship. They knew how it would be taken and they knew what they were doing. They are trying to play up to this ‘say hi to the bad guy’ image as they can’t get the golden boy image back. I think all that ship is for the birds. Just play ball. Media ain’t doin you right, just keep it moving. Say next to nothing and just go play ball. But they can’t do that – because like Noah said they hollywood as hell.

  • ThaWindy

    My exact thoughts Harlem.

  • http://nba.com EJ

    Lebron and Wade better watch out what they’re doing. They’re dealing with a German here.

  • B.J.
  • http://slamonline.com Jukai

    B-More Mike: We all know how the poor as sh*t, welfar-loving Baltimore residents love selling and doing drugs. It’s one of the main reasons your run-down herion and crack addicted residents hardly amount to anything. “Getting money”? Hardly. I am very much correct in my assertians of rampant sexual abuse, aided by the prison culture in that city. The constant in and out of the prison system also contributes to a very high number of so-called “bisexual” drug dealer types. But I digress. The point I was trying to make is that your automatic assumption of Kobe’s innocence is foolish. A man who admits that he had done it to other women, (example: the girl in Virginia, as he told police), is evidence enough that his sense of entitlement makes him worthy of the critisim. His situation doesn’t “just happen” to anyone, because normal men stop when a woman says stop. The fact that you can see the same thing happening to yourself is scary. You and Kobe should both register w/ your state sex offender registries.

  • http://slamonline.com Jukai

    Lebron is going Oscar on them tonight. He’ll be the game 7 hero too. Whenever Eboy’s mom tells me to stop, I stop. It’s usually during Heat games anyway. Same thing w/ NBK and Lakeshow’s dads. JTaylor complains, I let him off his knees.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Jukai what I mean by “Cleveland Cavs Lebron” is Lebron from two years ago. He used his size(He’s a freakin Defensive end with speed and basketball skill)more, and sometimes abused defenses. I’m not saying that that ability is gone….I’m just saying that Lebron is better than the Lebron we’re seeing this series.

  • B-More Mike

    Jukai let’s just talk ball cause you have no idea about this city. Just like Detroit, places down south we struggle 2 make it everyday whether right or wrong we do what we have 2 do. I rather be a dealer than what you’re proclaiming this city 2 be. Stop watching HBO & since your obviously the expert on city life come for a visit. Stop by the Melo center, Pro-am games Tues&thurs 6-7&8oclock or cloverdale & ask who’s raping who while watching some good basketball. You have no idea bro. It’s over 4 me I think the Heat take game 6 & game 7 who knows.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I have been saying this for years, Lebron is overrated and the King name for him sounds dumb, should be more like a Prince until King Kobe retires. Lebron is more athletically gifted than any player in the NBA, but his skill is that of a High School player, all force no finesse or skill. Lebron is choking away the Heat a ring and he is the main reason. Wade is carrying the Heat right now. Didn’t Lebron state that last game was the biggest game of his life and he gets THE WORST NON MEANINGFUL TRIPLE DOUBLE IN NBA PLAYOFF HISTORY THAT HAD NO IMPACT ON THE GAME. He has scored only 11 points in 5 games in the 4th qtr, and people state he is best player in NBA. LOL. I picked Dallas in 6 games and I am right, but LEBRON CANT WIN, because if HEat win it all. Wade is Finals MVP, an that hurts Lebron career. BOOK IT!!

  • showtime

    I see haters coming out of the woodshed today but still Miami in 7 should have been 6 but 7 has to do. But this lebron hate is get’n tiresome.#heat let-go

  • marklewis2307

    @ the seed yeah because shaq winning finals mvp’s totally ruined Kobe’s career, and for the record the heat would not be here without Lebron, hes not been good in game 4 and 5 but to say he has the skill level of a high school player shows how much box score fans know about the real game, even if the heat loose this series they will compete for years to come and lets not forget it wasnt that long ago people thought they wouldnt even reach the finals this year so BOOK THAT

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Don’t take Seed seriously when it comes to players that aren’t Kobe Bryant

  • marklewis2307

    @ BlackPhantom sounds like good advice

  • Jackie Moon

    Look, Lebron is a great player, he’s just not as good as Kobe, and that’s OK. Even Kobe now, today, if he was on this Heat team with Wade and Bosh, this series would be over by now, the Heat would be champs, and Kobe would be Finals MVP.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    @Jackie I’m not too sure about that one. It depends on which Kobe comes to the court.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    I’m not going to spew lame poetry. I’m not going to use my customary hyperbole.
    Y’all watch The King tonight. Y’all just watch…

  • http://ZOGS.CA ZOGS

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  • alphabetaherculis

    So, what time is Game 7? I guarantee MIA wins today. Just watch. You think wade/lbj are gonna sit idle while their whole season goes down the drain in front of their home crowd? I don’t think so!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Game 7 is at 8 pm

  • http://fkjslf.com Jukai

    B-More Mike: The guy mentioning Baltimore is not me, it is someone using my name. Every comment was mine for the exception of the Baltimore comments. There’s no moderation here, it’s annoying buddy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The Eboy’s mom thing was you Jukia?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The Eboy’s mom thing was you Jukai?

  • imawesome

    heat=win
    mavs=failure

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    marklewis2307
    Please read articles except on Slamonline. You would realize if Lebron does not get Finals MVP, it does hurt his career. Only a DUMMY would use Shaq and Kobe as examples. Lebron picked his team. Kobe was drafted to Lakers. Lebron suppose to be best player in NBA, 2 time MVP, is playing like doo doo and if you can’t understand Wade will out get Lebron in his career
    BlackPhantom
    I know more than Kobe, its just Lebron is punking out and I can’t stand his game, personally.

  • EBOYEATSIT

    SURVEY SAYS HELL NAW!! HAHAHAWH

  • http://www.slamonline.com unf*ckwitable

    no

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    ^ Way to call it. lol

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    imawesome = WRONG
    Mavs = Champions

  • http://slamonline.com biged

    I guess the answer to the title of this article is NO they couldn’t. Cant wait til Monday on this site. People gonna go off on Lebron and the Heat

  • Niyagirlfresh

    Yeah they can bounce back..NEXT SEASON lol!! They’re gonna have to put a lot of people on suicide watch tomorrow lol. D-Wade showed balls so did Chalmers LeBron simply just blanked out. You can’t do that, you have to be able to seperate your personal life from the time you get on the court and play ball. That is what makes great players, the ability to tune out everything where it’s just them and the basketball court. LeBron is not mentally on the level as alot of greats yet he still has to mature as a player. Don’t feel sorry for Miami that team is young and has many opportunities to win titles in the future. However give Dallas credit they played like hungry men. No Caron, Dirk was sick, people counted them out after game 1 actually. But they proved the media wrong and most fans wrong. Besides Dirk and Jason Kid’s rings were long overdue. The real winners are Butler and Deshawn from Washtington to NBA title lol. Epic.

  • http://www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    The Philosopher Posted: Jun.12 at 3:49 pm
    I’m not going to spew lame poetry. I’m not going to use my customary hyperbole.
    Y’all watch The King tonight. Y’all just watch…

    Ok Philosopher, we watched…LeBron do the same thing he did the entire series and score 4 meaningfull pts in the fourth qtr. 3 in garbage time. Yo son I swear you were waiting to see a Lion but just saw Lambert. So why dont you do yourself and the rest of us a favor and kill all that poetry and hyperbole, (even you think is lame) until this extremely talented young man does what Russell,Wilt,Kareem, Big-O,DR.J,Magic,Bird,Zeke,Jordan,Duncan,Shaq,Kobe,Wade & Dirk. HAVE done, come up big when it matters most…and hold that LOB trophy over his damn head. Giving someone credit that they havent yet earned is wrong, and in LeBrons case silly, dude is GREAT if you really do believe that then why the need to sweat soo hard? Let the Kid sho & prove. But im not hating, and shout out matta fact, cause generally your a cool cat.

  • Geek

    Miami in 8!!!

    :-D

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    lebron needs to read this child’s tale and realize it’s all bout him.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

    And stop calling him the king before he’s actually owned a dynasty. even one championship doesn’t earn him a nickname as the king.

  • Dre Baller

    The Heatless

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    No… But it’s been a great season, and a new champ was crowned.. Ill see y’all again once trades start being made, or guys start being arrested…. In the mean time, I need to cut my damn lawn… Have a good summer fellas..

  • Marklewis2307

    @ the seed, I take your points, however Kobe kinda did choose his team also, and that’s really irrelevant as my point was two superstars can co exist and not hurt each others legacy based on individual accolades. When alls said and done people remember chips not finals mvp’s. Lebron had a subpar series and give the Mavs credit, but let’s not forget one man doesn’t win or loose on his own, Kobe was horrible in last years game 7 & his team mates helped him out and they came through. Kobes a great great player and his credentials speak for themselves all I’m saying is don’t write Lebron of yet after all his averages in his first 10 finals games are almost identical to the Mamba’s.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Dre Baller: +1

  • Sean

    hahahhaha screw you Heat fans…

  • Zabba

    Man, this feels good. I’m a Spurs fan and I wanted the Mavs to win.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com MichaelG

    Not 1… not t…1? Lol.

  • http://Philosophervision@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Shout out @MichaelG.

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