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Friday, August 12th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  66 responses

David Stern: 2011-’12 NBA Season Won’t Be Canceled


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

There’s good news, and there’s bad news.

The somewhat positive news is that, unlike Billy Hunter, NBA commissioner David Stern expects owners and players to reach a deal, thereby preventing the cancellation of the 2011-’12 season.

The bad news is that both sides are too busy arguing about when to meet so as to actually get anything done.

From the Boston Globe:

“I would say that we have very smart players who recognize that this system is very good to them,” he said. “You’ve got 13 players on a roster averaging $5 million apiece, that’s $65 million and what the owners have said is, ’we’re going to try very hard as we reset this thing to keep you as close to that number as we can. The NFL, which is usually profitable as opposed to the NBA, which isn’t, got the double-digit [revenue] reductions from their players. Our players will understand that when the rhetoric stops and they will understand that the owners are trying to do the right thing and our players always try to do the right thing.”

“I expect that we’ll make a deal because the alternative is very destructive,” he said. “It’s destructive of $2 billion worth of player salaries and it’s destructive most important to our fans of the game. And if it spirals badly everyone gets hurt. But in some ways I worry because the players have more to lose, especially those in the later stages of their career. So we’re going to do everything we can when the rhetoric slows down to get this thing back on track.”

What is getting canceled are crucial negotiation meetings, and naturally, the two sides blame one another for this fiasco. Awesome job, guys.

So, all in all, we’re still stuck in the same place we’ve been in since July 1st.

This lockout thing will eventually get resolved; at this point, there’s just no telling who will be proven right when it comes to the season happening or not: Hunter or Stern.

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  • RobbieJay

    So who wants to watch hockey with me

  • GeeZee

    Stern got this.

  • http://the4thquarter.net Josh

    Stern: Our players aren’t stupid enough to let the entire season be cancelled.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Bill Russell should be the next commish.

  • Jer dawg

    Good owners are pigeonholed in with bad owners. F them all. Fans should Treat them like Dodgers Owner frank mcCourt and make statement by not going to games.everyone go buy tv and stay home. Or spend more time doing constructive stuff. F this business crap.

  • John

    “But in some ways I worry because the players have more to lose, especially those in the later stages of their career.”
    -Wow, talk about thinly veiled threats.

  • Fat Lever

    Adios NBA. I’m not holding my breath for a resolution.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8df2zCpypk IAMORANGE4EVER

    David Stern said the right thing.

  • tobyyyy

    anybody gonna play 2k12 with me?

  • p

    the NBA could have really capitalized off of the 10-11 season…yea fat, im not holding my breath, either….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    STERNBOT…WILL…DESTROY

  • yo

    Famous David Stern Quotes:

    “No official will ever fix a game.”

    “There are no plans to move the team away from Seattle.”

    “The new ball ist ok and we will not change it back.”

  • RobbieJay

    @ yo, THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING.

  • bike

    The title of this piece and what is actually being said by Stern in this piece are miles apart.

  • http://www.inetsoft.com/info/bi_server_providers/ BI Server Guy

    Stern makes this sound like a strike, not a lock out.

    Hockey season starts in less than two months, and the preseason is in about a month. But I’ll have nothing to watch on off days.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    co-sign bike. The title of this thread boosted my spirits initially. Then I came back down to an Earth where there’s no NBA basketball.

  • anonymous

    Owners who are chronically losing money have time (and reason) to wait, whereas the shelf-life of an athlete is much shorter. Stern is right when he says that the athletes should have more pressure in reaching a deal sooner.

  • David Moore

    Owners and players would be dumb to let an entire season go down the drain.

  • VO

    What about David Stern giving some of that 23 mill back. Bet he can’t hit a free throw.

  • hiphopcop

    Well if they are arguing about just meeting to sit down, there is really only one thing to say—
    Are you ready for SOME FOOTBALL!!?????

  • Lonnie Ormes

    If this NBA season is cancelled or even part of it cancelled….I will NEBER spend anymore time going to games, watching games on TV or even buying any gear……
    These guys are all millionaires, and we fans were responsible for that!……..Its just like baseball did in the mid 1980′s…..I was a big fan before, but now I could care less!……I think I have watched 2 innings in 20 years and I was a big baseball fan until they struck….When are the players and owners gonna realize it’s us poor fans eating dog food that suffer!……SCREW the millionaires

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Stern is once again going to show the masses why he is the Greatest Commissioner of All Times…

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/791470-lebron-james-vs-dwyane-wade-who-is-the-better-player/page/8 nbk

    You have to understand why there is a lockout before you blame everyone that earns millions of dollars. And the majority of the problem are billionaires, who you aren’t making any richer by going to games. And that’s also why there is a lockout.

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    Whoever is eating dog food has no time in their life to be following professional sports.

  • kittysqueaky

    The owners of the small market teams are the problem because they want to be like the Lakers, Knicks, and Bulls. The solution is contraction. Eliminate all those small market teams that are crying and let’s get on with a business that works otherwise.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Stern WAS the greatest commish of all times philo…i think that his status as such is beginning to become suspect tho. Not a criticism, just an observation of the fact that the longer one is in a position of power, the greater the chances that they’ll tarnish a great legacy.

  • Youngindy21

    Kittysqueaky your logic is stupid. Yes lets contract most of the league so that we can watch 7 or 8 teams play each other. That right there is boring. The small-market teams want COMPETITIVE BALANCE. Nobody wants to see Boston, Chicago, or LA in the Finals every single year because they have an obvious advantage. Once again that is boring. The players wouldn’t even agree to contraction because that means less jobs for them. Is it wrong for small market teams to want to win? Not everybody in the U.S. lives in NY, LA, or Chicago.

  • add

    at least somebody’s sayin we’ll have a season, we won’t have a season because everybody’s givin up. at least during the nfl lockout they had a bunch of meetings between the players and owners, i only remember 1 meeting this whole lockout between the nba players and owners.

  • bike

    Stern: ‘What we have here…is a failure to communicate!’

  • http://twitter.com/BeezKneezy LA Huey

    @Youngindy21, “Nobody wants to see Boston, Chicago, or LA in the Finals every single year” The ratings say otherwise.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Do y’all realize that when Bill Russell won all those championships there were only like 8 teams in the league?
    I’ll bet you didn’t.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    You’d lose your money.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Forget that. AK47 just said that black people are good at basketball because of their nature:
    Interviewer: A Russian man has been traditionally notable for his great physical power (that is to say, the muscles). Without muscles you have no place in modern basketball, especially if you are a center. But compared to the Americans we look quite feeble. Why is is so? (НерпЪ)

    AK47– We look quite feeble, I agree. But looking at the training of a guy who starts playing in college and continues his career in the league, you can’t imagine how much time they spend in gyms in America. A hundred times more than we do. People don’t only play basketball, but also work out regularly, whole programs are developed there. We lag behind in this regard, we try to play more with our talent, we want to prevail with tactics, approach, ‘intelligent’ basketball, I’d say. In America it’s purely one-on-one game – you have to be stronger, faster, jump better. It’s also the nature that favors black players making them physically stronger than we are – that is a scientifically proven fact.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Don’t forget they play dumb basketball unlike the intelligent game of the Euros.
    Oh yeah baby. He’s on the list.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/791470-lebron-james-vs-dwyane-wade-who-is-the-better-player/page/8 nbk

    oh dear

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Because it couldn’t be the incessant working out, the focus from a younger age. It’s those n(igger genes baby! Of course, the drawback is those same genes make you stupid. That’s life.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I also know that Bill Russell has been around pro basketball probably longer than any man alive. So I think he would know a little something about how to run the L.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/791470-lebron-james-vs-dwyane-wade-who-is-the-better-player/page/8 nbk

    How can you be under the impression your going to play a more intelligent brand of basketball then people that spend MORE time playing. What a ignorant racist moron.

  • bike

    Assume AK47 is Kirilenko?….well there probably is more emphasis on athletic ability in college and pro b-ball in America compared to Euros but that’s one of the reasons we kick their a)ss in international competition. America’s talent, tactics, approach, and b-ball I.Q. is just as good if not better than Euros…if this is Kirilenko saying this I don’t get it…he (in his prime) was one of the more athletic guys in the league.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Dudes, I work with Russian(and I mean real russian, like i taught him english kinda russian, like eats borscht nightly type russian, okay u probably get it now). Russians are just racist. They just are. If you are going to just grab at a country for being ignorant just go for anywhere were sharia law is enstated. Don’t dwell on the ignorace of others. Move on and show them why you are the best at what you do. What AK said is coming through Russian translation also. Doesn’t always come out right. Forgive me if I am ignorant,(you may tear me up for this) but aren’t black men usually more athletic naturally? I thought that was fact. Maybe I just watched to much White Men Can’t Jump growing up..

  • John

    Aside from the race angle, Kirilenko is just exposing why Americans dominate in sport. Only citizens of first-world countries can afford to spend all their time honing their bodies/skills in recreational games. A quick glance at the medal counts in any Olympics is a testament to this.

  • John

    And for those who complain of racism in America, just visit pretty much any other country in the world. At least here (and select Western countries), it’s not socially acceptable to be racist.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    it’s not that they are MORE athletic, but the muscle/twitch fibbers make them more suitable for a various range of athletic activities… I believe it has a little bit more to do with dense muscle/bone tissue also?? Now this is generally across the board but not necessarily for every single person. For instance the fastest runner on the earth vs the fastest the fastest swimmer on the earth is a good example. BOTH are athletic yet this is discernible in different fields. The whole ‘euro game is a smarter game’ is just straight garbage talk.

  • MUBWAR

    let’s start with Euro game is trash. let’s put aside the ‘blackies’ speed strength and jumping abilities aside, I haven’t seen any Euro PG that can control the tempo, lead the fast break and dish the ball like the NBA’s Magic Stockton Nash and CP3′s. still love my vodka though

  • C Da Tyrant

    AK47 jus made cuz too many n9gga nutz been in his face (see Baron Davis if you doubt me.)

  • http://lookatmenow brandon

    that better be a promise

  • Allenp

    Read “Darwin’s Athletes” for a full debunking of that muscle twitch thing.

  • All Day

    There will NOT be a 2011-2012 NBA season!!!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Allenp.
    @ LakeShow: Russians are racist? Because you know a guy from Russia who happens to be racist? wtf?

  • Alekesam

    Stern is doing what he normally does, which is a) take the side of the money and b) slant it so it looks like the players are rebelling, which traditionally, the average joe would side against since it comes across as athletes who make a considerable amount of money are whining when so many people are broke. They’re not whining, but that’s how Stern is playing it. Not to mention trying to bully them with threats.

    Just once, I’d love to see Stern get a comeuperance somehow.

  • will

    nothing AK47 said was racist

  • http://cnbc.com Da_Real_JTaylor

    I know a black Russian… Just putting it out there they do exist and im sure AK47 has seen one before guys…

  • John

    Making generalizations of an entire ethnicity generally isn’t a good idea, but xenophobia in former USSR countries are on a whole another level.

  • fish sticks

    There is no proof that african american athletes are more athletic. Certain Kenyan marathon runners have slightly longer femurs; yes, this gives them an athletic advantage, but this is a small group of people, not african americans as a whole. Perhaps the real reason isn’t something genetic, but more situational. How many kids in the league grew up in the ‘hood, or below the poverty line? My personal belief as to why there are more black athletes in the NBA or NFL and the like is that they had to succeed at sports; If they didn’t, then they might not make it out of the streets alive. Me, growing up in the suburbs, didn’t have that kind of pressure (not that I am a world class athlete anyways). All I’m saying in short is that people should stop making excuses, like saying black people are genetically predisposed to be more athletic, and look at what other factors might have played a part in their success.

  • seriousblack

    Stern was really just threatening the players, and there wasn’t a damn thing hidden about it…AK-47 was either being intellionally racist or unintentionally racist, but that was some racist ish either way. Only a racist would disagree. Now being from Brooklyn I’ve had my fare share of experience with racist Russians from Brighton beach. I’ve also worked in a hospital where some of the nicest, most kind hearted people were Russian. Bottom line, every group of people has their bunch of rotten apples. It’s silly to make sweeping indictments of an entire group…Oh yeah, AK-47 just became my least favorite player. Far behind Kobe.

  • seriousblack

    *intentionally

  • melvox

    Our player are smart enough to see other options and leave if needed… the NBA is not NFL, you can play basket anywhere, but you only can play american football in USA.

  • Lan

    Guess it’s the rugby world cup for me

  • slamfan4life

    Big statement here from DS

  • http://www.wfp.org/ Felix

    “But compared to Americans, we look quite feeble…” We just won the cold war! Yeah Baby! Dragoooooo!

  • http://sports-glory.com/join SportsGlory

    Street ball will be the new NBA.

  • http://www.yomamajokes.com LilKDub503

    Bill Russell won those championships with no more than 14 teams in the league (1968-69 had 14 teams). He’d be aight as a commish in my opinion.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Shout out to Jimmy the “Greek”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/08/david-stern-2012-nba-season-wont-be-cancelled/ rhamn

    THE NBA LEAGUE ITSELF WILL LOOSE MORE MONEY IF THEY CANCEL THE NBA SEASON RATHER THAN JUST COMPROMISING ON A N CBA THAT THE PLAYERS WOULD AGREE ON THE OWNERS WILL ALSO LOOSE A YEARS WORTH OF INCOME IF THAT HAPPENS THE KEY TO REACHING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO ARGUING PARTIES IS TO “COMPROMISE”

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/08/david-stern-2012-nba-season-wont-be-cancelled/ rhamn

    NOTE:BILL RUSSEL AND THE REST OF THE GUYS ON THAT BATCH OF LEGENDS HAVE PAID THE WAY TO A GREAT GAME THAT WE LOVE TODAY LETS FACE IT AMERICA STARTED BASKETBALL THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE AK47 HAS NO RIGHT IN ANYWAYS TO DISS OTHER PEOPLE OF ITS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND I DON’T KNOW IF ITS MISSED TRANSLATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I THINK LETS ALSO GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THAT HE DID NOT MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY………….

  • poohead

    So then Stern, if. ” the players arent stupid enough to cancel the season ” it must be you and the owners who are, pay cut for the commissioner ? Not likely

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