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Friday, August 19th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  59 responses

Spurs Athletic Director: Tim Duncan Can Play 3-5 More Years


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

Tim Duncan, widely regarded as the NBA’s greatest power forward of all time, is in the twilight of his career.

Last season, he posted career lows in minutes (28.4), points (13.4) and rebounds (8.9) per game, and though he avoided injury for much of the year, his body did eventually break down as the Playoffs approached.

Physically, things are only going to get worse for the 35-year old Duncan, right? Well, not necessarily.

According to the San Antonio Spurs’ new Director of Athletic Performance, anyway.

From Gator Zone (via the Express-News):

[Matt] Herring has two national championships on his résumé and memories of a lifetime during his time as [the University of Florida’s] strength-and-conditioning coordinator. Oddly enough, Herring is leaving Gainesville to return to San Antonio, where he has been named Director of Athletic Performance for the NBA’s San Antonio Spurs. Herring is also returning home. The Texas native and his wife’s family live in Texas.

Herring starts his new job on Sept. 1 and joins an organization that has won four NBA titles, more than any franchise other than the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls. With the lockout creating uncertainty over the start of the 2011-12 NBA season, Herring is focused on building relationships with San Antonio’s current staff, led by longtime head coach Gregg Popovich, and creating a strength-and-conditioning program for the veteran Spurs once they return. … “You have an impact on their lives – their livelihood and their career,” he said. “You can have a positive impact on a guy like Tim Duncan and helping him get three, four, five more years out of his career and end on his terms.”

Tim Duncan hadn’t missed a game last season until the left ankle sprain in late March. It will be up to Matt Herring to help Duncan remain strong and healthy going forward.

Spurs fans can only hope that this will translate into steady contribution from their Hall of Famer for a few more years.

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  • Ryan

    If Tim Duncan can stay healthy for three or four more years we should all thank whoever helps him do it.

  • SwissArmyKnife5

    Hey I think he can his game was never based on athletic ability. I think he’s a lock to average 15-20 ppg,8-12rpg,3apg,and 2blk as long as he plays 32-35 mins a game.

  • rob stewart

    Is you crazy!? 5 years? He’ll look like Kevin Willis on the court by then

  • whooo!

    Duncan could easily play till 40 and be as productive as Kareem or Malone were at their old age, because so little of his game is on athleticism (especially recently). the biggest question with him though is, how much more does he want it? he coul’ve retired 6 years ago and still be the greatest pf of all time after beating Detroit.

  • LA Huey

    New firmware. New parts. Joking aside, I hope he can be productive a few more years. One of my all-time favorites.

  • robb

    His skill set will allow him to play 3 more years. I don’t think he’ll want to play 5 more

  • Riggs

    he just installed Core-i7, last season he was running on dual-core. He’s ready.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    Interesting factoid about Malone and Kareem: they never had the nagging leg and foot injuries that Duncan has recently developed. Don’t expect Duncan to be near their level.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Wasn’t there an article SLAM ran a while back where Duncan was quoted saying (about 3 years ago) that he wanted to play until he was 40? I see no reason why he wouldn’t.

  • BAWSE

    He can play but needs to come off of a great teams bench and give 20 minutes of hustling.

  • http://www.yomamajokes.com LilKDub503

    I think 3 more years. When he plays, he’s productive-it’s pretty much robotic in the sense that he will do the same thing every time he steps on the floor, and nobody can stop him. @Caboose: I remember that article, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he played til 40, but he probably didn’t predict his body would betray him in any way.

  • bike

    Matt Herring perfected this program through years of trial and error. One of the first players to try Herring’s program was Greg Oden. Tim needs to be careful here and maybe consider a second opinion.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    3 to 5 more years in the rec league.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    There’s no way Duncan avgs. 15/10 let alone 20/12. His mins are only going to keep going down add that with his age and recent injuries, I don’t see that happening. 13/9 is more realistic.

  • MikeC.

    Duncan was noticeably slower last season. Manu and Parker were providing more offense, so it didn’t show there. On D, it was noticeable. TD’s rotations were slower and he wasn’t locking guys down like past seasons.

  • http://wagesofwins.net/2011/08/09/the-winningest-tandems/ nbk

    Cosign JTaylor.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelJR_NZ Michael NZ

    Yeah I think he’ll level off at around 13 points and 9 rebs, a couple blocks, still solid D. For 3-5 years? Absolutely.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Yeah, 13 and 9 or 12 and 8, and probably about 30 minutes per.
    In a perfect world, the Spurs would draft or trade for a young, future star big man that could be the new Tim Duncan while Duncan plays the role David Robinson did early in TD’s career.
    Won’t happen though…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^ What you tlaking about? Thats why Splitter is there?!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    HA!
    Enigmatic, there will never be a “new” Tim Duncan.

  • John

    ^Don’t forget about Dejuan Blair too.

  • John

    ^Meant to reply to Lakeshow, not JTaylor

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    First of all, Karl Malone is the greatest power forward of all time. Tim Duncan is done like burnt chicken.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ Sorry, Tim Duncan is the GPFOAT.

  • Ryan

    Karl Malone is not the greatest power forward of all time he’s number three behind Tim Duncan and Kevin Mchale.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Karl Malone
    He had career averages of 25 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.6 assists, 1.4 steals, and 0.8 blocks. He also shot 51.6 percent from the field and 74.2 percent from the free-throw line. He also ranks second all-time in total points, as he is only behind Kareem.

    In his long and durable career, he was selected to the All-Star team 14 times, and he was selected to the All NBA team 14 times, with 11 of the selections as a member of the first team. He also won two All-Star Game MVPs and two regular MVP awards. However, he never won a ring as, he could never lead the Jazz to a title.
    _______________________________________________________________________

    Tim Duncan

    So far, in 11 seasons, he has career averages of 21.6 points, 11.8 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 2.4 blocks, and 0.8 steals. He has also shot 50.8 percent from the field and 68.4 percent from the free-throw line.

    He has been selected to 10 All-Star teams, and he has also won an All-Star Game MVP in 2000. Duncan has also been selected to the All-NBA team 11 times, with nine of the selections as a member of the first team.

    He was also selected to the All NBA Defensive team nine times, with seven of the selections as a member of the first team. He also won the Rookie of the Year Award in 1998, and he won back to back MVP awards in the 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 seasons.

    He has already led the Spurs to two of the four championships in just 11 seasons, as he won three Finals MVP awards,and one going to Tony Parker and the other year should have gone to Manu Gniobli.
    __________________________________________________________________________
    I take Karl Malone

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    One of the best two-way players of all-time + 4 chips = GPFOAT.
    Open and shut case, johnson!

  • http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelJR_NZ Michael NZ

    Duncans 4 rings, leadership and superior D mean he’s number 1 with minimal debate.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, Dirk Nowitzki, Karl Malone, Chris Webber, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant, James Worthy (sf?)…. a few names come along when you think of that top 10 group… Kemp may be on the outside looking in when you combine longevity, hardware, career stats and contributions…. along with guys like Larry Johnson, Derrick Coleman and Christian Laettner… I wish I knew more about the collection of PF’s through the 70′s and 80′s… you can tell when I was a childhood fan….

    - CHEROKEE PARKS STAND UP!

  • http://360special.blogspot.com/ dev0

    wow… after the lockout means another year and Duncan’s 35 now, he will be 36 when the next season would arrive. Lockout or not, a five-year projection means a 40-year old Virgin Islands legend still stalking the court playing effective ball.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Not to mention he’s the only big man of this era to even remotely challenge Shaquille O’Neal’s dominance.
    The question is, who has had the better career: Shaq or Timmy? Who would you rather have on your team/build around?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ John: Yeah, I always thought the Spurs were looking for that next young big stud to put them over the top again. DeJuan Blair is looking good but his lack of size makes it tough for him to be dominant. We’ll see how Tiago pans out. The Spurs would have been in a lot better shape had they kept the rights to Luis Scola.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    The San Antonio Spurs are the model smart-market team. GREAT staff and front office work (the best in the NBA, imo), and a loyal fan base. With Jerry Sloan retired, and Phil Jackson leaving LA, they’re also the only team in the NBA that values its coach more than any other part of their franchise, including the players.

  • slamfan4life

    3-5 avg what?

    best i see him as is 15 and 8,still good i guess

  • John

    @Teddy: Maybe a young big stud isn’t what’s needed or most practical. It’s far easier to draft studs at the guard positions than big men (think of GMs kicking themselves over Olowokandi, Oden, E.Curry, Haywood…in other words, there are only so many Howards and Bynums out there).
    As far as young TD vs. Shaq, scouts were drooling over both of them. Shaq gets the nod for physical freakiness, TD takes everything else. IIRC, in college, TD contained a young Sheed, who I consider as one of the most talented underachievers to play, along with Odom, but I digress.

  • John

    ^Just realized that I didn’t answer your question. It’s a toss-up, but I’d take Shaq. A physical force of nature like him just doesn’t come along often enough.

  • James Aka…

    Malone couldn’t win a title with Shaq at center and kobe at the 2. That is a huge factor in determining how much his contributions meant. Individual stats tell part of the story, not the whole.

  • 6marjons

    splitter will help the future of tim duncan

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Brilliant career.
    So classy.
    So level.
    Greatest power forward of all time?
    Debatable.
    Probable.

  • sam

    Yeah, and Favre can lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl five years in a row.

  • Heals

    Rob are you crazy, Kevin Willis is better shape than most the guys in the L and everybody on these comment boards. I get your point, but pick a different example cause KWillis is an effin specimen dude…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Man…Shaq retired, now we’re talking about TD’s retirement…I feel old.

  • HAMMER

    @ Wayno. That’s cuz u r old man. Haha! Im just messin w/you. I was 14 when Duncan burst on the scene as a Deacon. So I feel (am) old as well. And just 2 clarify this misunderstanding of who the best PF is, its #21, Tim Duncan. “The Mailman” comes a close, close 2nd tho. Just cuz Malone could produce more @ an older age, which seems 2 always b the base of the argument 4 him, doesn’t mean he is the best. The Seed made the argument 4 Duncan so I don’t need 2 mention Duncan’s accolades, stats, and titles. Thank you, The Seed.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I actually put Malone over Duncan too.
    Duncan wouldn’t have won sh*t in the 80′s and 90′s either…that ’99 title was post-MJ.

  • 360

    We all know Tim won 4 chips. Stats doesn’t matter, even playing different eras. It’s all about leading your team to a championship. So Duncan has a greater edge over Malone there. I really cant say whose the GPFOAT but I really think they’re the ones on top of the list.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    RIGO, ITS EASY TO SAY DUMB SHII LIKE THAT ISNT IT?

  • http://slamonline.com Neitel

    he is good, but he is NOT the greatest power forward…if you ask an 10 year old, maybe…but not if you ask me!!

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    By the way, Garnett is better…

  • Heals

    Duncan wouldn’t have won sh*t in the 80′s and 90′s either – earning your name with statement. Philo what do you base KG being better on? Not saying I disagree, but chips and teammates aside (which in a way is ridiculous to not include) it’s like splitting hairs…

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Heals:
    Garnett was as good or better than Duncan in every way, except in one thing.
    Leadership.
    Duncan’s leadership is still nearly unmatched.
    Garnett is the better athlete.
    Better shooter.
    Better passer.
    Better ball handler.
    More versatile defender.
    Better scorer.

  • Heals

    Thanks Philo now I got more ammo for my KG v TD arguments. Good points, although I think I’d give Timmy the edge in being an anchor down low offensively (greatly facilitating movement, involvement, etc. on offense) and TD’s even keel suits him better for big moments/adversity…

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Yeah, I think it’s all about preference when it’s all said and done.

  • http://Slamonline nbk

    Tim Duncan is btter then Garnett at protecting the rim, and his fundamentals in the post both offensively and defensively are better then Garnett. I’d take Duncan

  • brandon

    Ryan Posted: Aug.19 at 9:07 am
    If Tim Duncan can stay healthy for three or four more years we should all thank whoever helps him do it.

    SwissArmyKnife5 Posted: Aug.19 at 9:14 am
    Hey I think he can his game was never based on athletic ability. I think he’s a lock to average 15-20 ppg,8-12rpg,3apg,and 2blk as long as he plays 32-35 mins a game.

    rob stewart Posted: Aug.19 at 10:23 am
    Is you crazy!? 5 years? He’ll look like Kevin Willis on the court by then

    whooo! Posted: Aug.19 at 10:25 am
    Duncan could easily play till 40 and be as productive as Kareem or Malone were at their old age, because so little of his game is on athleticism (especially recently). the biggest question with him though is, how much more does he want it? he coul’ve retired 6 years ago and still be the greatest pf of all time after beating Detroit.

    LA Huey Posted: Aug.19 at 10:57 am
    New firmware. New parts. Joking aside, I hope he can be productive a few more years. One of my all-time favorites.

    robb Posted: Aug.19 at 11:19 am
    His skill set will allow him to play 3 more years. I don’t think he’ll want to play 5 more

    Riggs Posted: Aug.19 at 11:19 am
    he just installed Core-i7, last season he was running on dual-core. He’s ready.

    Jukai Posted: Aug.19 at 12:23 pm
    Interesting factoid about Malone and Kareem: they never had the nagging leg and foot injuries that Duncan has recently developed. Don’t expect Duncan to be near their level.

    Caboose Posted: Aug.19 at 12:24 pm
    Wasn’t there an article SLAM ran a while back where Duncan was quoted saying (about 3 years ago) that he wanted to play until he was 40? I see no reason why he wouldn’t.

    BAWSE Posted: Aug.19 at 2:28 pm
    He can play but needs to come off of a great teams bench and give 20 minutes of hustling.

    LilKDub503 Posted: Aug.19 at 3:10 pm
    I think 3 more years. When he plays, he’s productive-it’s pretty much robotic in the sense that he will do the same thing every time he steps on the floor, and nobody can stop him. @Caboose: I remember that article, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he played til 40, but he probably didn’t predict his body would betray him in any way.

    bike Posted: Aug.19 at 3:42 pm
    Matt Herring perfected this program through years of trial and error. One of the first players to try Herring’s program was Greg Oden. Tim needs to be careful here and maybe consider a second opinion.

    Slick Ric Posted: Aug.19 at 3:53 pm
    3 to 5 more years in the rec league.

    JTaylor21 Posted: Aug.19 at 4:26 pm
    There’s no way Duncan avgs. 15/10 let alone 20/12. His mins are only going to keep going down add that with his age and recent injuries, I don’t see that happening. 13/9 is more realistic.

    MikeC. Posted: Aug.19 at 5:28 pm
    Duncan was noticeably slower last season. Manu and Parker were providing more offense, so it didn’t show there. On D, it was noticeable. TD’s rotations were slower and he wasn’t locking guys down like past seasons.

    nbk Posted: Aug.19 at 6:03 pm
    Cosign JTaylor.

    Michael NZ Posted: Aug.19 at 6:58 pm
    Yeah I think he’ll level off at around 13 points and 9 rebs, a couple blocks, still solid D. For 3-5 years? Absolutely.

    Enigmatic Posted: Aug.19 at 7:04 pm
    Yeah, 13 and 9 or 12 and 8, and probably about 30 minutes per.
    In a perfect world, the Spurs would draft or trade for a young, future star big man that could be the new Tim Duncan while Duncan plays the role David Robinson did early in TD’s career.
    Won’t happen though…

    LakeShow Posted: Aug.19 at 7:11 pm
    ^ What you tlaking about? Thats why Splitter is there?!

    JTaylor21 Posted: Aug.19 at 7:20 pm
    HA!
    Enigmatic, there will never be a “new” Tim Duncan.

    John Posted: Aug.19 at 7:22 pm
    ^Don’t forget about Dejuan Blair too.

    John Posted: Aug.19 at 7:22 pm
    ^Meant to reply to Lakeshow, not JTaylor

    The Seed Posted: Aug.19 at 7:35 pm
    First of all, Karl Malone is the greatest power forward of all time. Tim Duncan is done like burnt chicken.

    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Aug.19 at 7:56 pm
    ^ Sorry, Tim Duncan is the GPFOAT.

    Ryan Posted: Aug.19 at 8:25 pm
    Karl Malone is not the greatest power forward of all time he’s number three behind Tim Duncan and Kevin Mchale.

    The Seed Posted: Aug.19 at 9:19 pm
    Karl Malone
    He had career averages of 25 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.6 assists, 1.4 steals, and 0.8 blocks. He also shot 51.6 percent from the field and 74.2 percent from the free-throw line. He also ranks second all-time in total points, as he is only behind Kareem. In his long and durable career, he was selected to the All-Star team 14 times, and he was selected to the All NBA team 14 times, with 11 of the selections as a member of the first team. He also won two All-Star Game MVPs and two regular MVP awards. However, he never won a ring as, he could never lead the Jazz to a title.
    _______________________________________________________________________ Tim Duncan So far, in 11 seasons, he has career averages of 21.6 points, 11.8 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 2.4 blocks, and 0.8 steals. He has also shot 50.8 percent from the field and 68.4 percent from the free-throw line. He has been selected to 10 All-Star teams, and he has also won an All-Star Game MVP in 2000. Duncan has also been selected to the All-NBA team 11 times, with nine of the selections as a member of the first team. He was also selected to the All NBA Defensive team nine times, with seven of the selections as a member of the first team. He also won the Rookie of the Year Award in 1998, and he won back to back MVP awards in the 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 seasons. He has already led the Spurs to two of the four championships in just 11 seasons, as he won three Finals MVP awards,and one going to Tony Parker and the other year should have gone to Manu Gniobli.
    __________________________________________________________________________
    I take Karl Malone

    JTaylor21 Posted: Aug.19 at 9:26 pm
    One of the best two-way players of all-time + 4 chips = GPFOAT.
    Open and shut case, johnson!

    Michael NZ Posted: Aug.19 at 9:50 pm
    Duncans 4 rings, leadership and superior D mean he’s number 1 with minimal debate.

    Dacre Posted: Aug.19 at 11:16 pm
    Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, Dirk Nowitzki, Karl Malone, Chris Webber, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant, James Worthy (sf?)…. a few names come along when you think of that top 10 group… Kemp may be on the outside looking in when you combine longevity, hardware, career stats and contributions…. along with guys like Larry Johnson, Derrick Coleman and Christian Laettner… I wish I knew more about the collection of PF’s through the 70′s and 80′s… you can tell when I was a childhood fan…. – CHEROKEE PARKS STAND UP!

    dev0 Posted: Aug.20 at 1:30 am
    wow… after the lockout means another year and Duncan’s 35 now, he will be 36 when the next season would arrive. Lockout or not, a five-year projection means a 40-year old Virgin Islands legend still stalking the court playing effective ball.

    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Aug.20 at 2:27 am
    Not to mention he’s the only big man of this era to even remotely challenge Shaquille O’Neal’s dominance.
    The question is, who has had the better career: Shaq or Timmy? Who would you rather have on your team/build around?

    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Aug.20 at 2:30 am
    @ John: Yeah, I always thought the Spurs were looking for that next young big stud to put them over the top again. DeJuan Blair is looking good but his lack of size makes it tough for him to be dominant. We’ll see how Tiago pans out. The Spurs would have been in a lot better shape had they kept the rights to Luis Scola.

    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Aug.20 at 2:33 am
    The San Antonio Spurs are the model smart-market team. GREAT staff and front office work (the best in the NBA, imo), and a loyal fan base. With Jerry Sloan retired, and Phil Jackson leaving LA, they’re also the only team in the NBA that values its coach more than any other part of their franchise, including the players.

    slamfan4life Posted: Aug.20 at 2:54 am
    3-5 avg what? best i see him as is 15 and 8,still good i guess

    John Posted: Aug.20 at 7:49 am
    @Teddy: Maybe a young big stud isn’t what’s needed or most practical. It’s far easier to draft studs at the guard positions than big men (think of GMs kicking themselves over Olowokandi, Oden, E.Curry, Haywood…in other words, there are only so many Howards and Bynums out there).
    As far as young TD vs. Shaq, scouts were drooling over both of them. Shaq gets the nod for physical freakiness, TD takes everything else. IIRC, in college, TD contained a young Sheed, who I consider as one of the most talented underachievers to play, along with Odom, but I digress.

    John Posted: Aug.20 at 7:59 am
    ^Just realized that I didn’t answer your question. It’s a toss-up, but I’d take Shaq. A physical force of nature like him just doesn’t come along often enough.

    James Aka… Posted: Aug.20 at 8:17 am
    Malone couldn’t win a title with Shaq at center and kobe at the 2. That is a huge factor in determining how much his contributions meant. Individual stats tell part of the story, not the whole.

    6marjons Posted: Aug.20 at 9:13 am
    splitter will help the future of tim duncan

    The Philosopher Posted: Aug.20 at 9:59 am
    Brilliant career.
    So classy.
    So level.
    Greatest power forward of all time?
    Debatable.
    Probable.

    sam Posted: Aug.20 at 12:10 pm
    Yeah, and Favre can lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl five years in a row.

    Heals Posted: Aug.20 at 2:02 pm
    Rob are you crazy, Kevin Willis is better shape than most the guys in the L and everybody on these comment boards. I get your point, but pick a different example cause KWillis is an effin specimen dude…

    Wayno Posted: Aug.20 at 3:26 pm
    Man…Shaq retired, now we’re talking about TD’s retirement…I feel old.

    HAMMER Posted: Aug.20 at 8:29 pm
    @ Wayno. That’s cuz u r old man. Haha! Im just messin w/you. I was 14 when Duncan burst on the scene as a Deacon. So I feel (am) old as well. And just 2 clarify this misunderstanding of who the best PF is, its #21, Tim Duncan. “The Mailman” comes a close, close 2nd tho. Just cuz Malone could produce more @ an older age, which seems 2 always b the base of the argument 4 him, doesn’t mean he is the best. The Seed made the argument 4 Duncan so I don’t need 2 mention Duncan’s accolades, stats, and titles. Thank you, The Seed.

    Enigmatic Posted: Aug.20 at 10:19 pm
    I actually put Malone over Duncan too.
    Duncan wouldn’t have won sh*t in the 80′s and 90′s either…that ’99 title was post-MJ.

    360 Posted: Aug.21 at 1:00 am
    We all know Tim won 4 chips. Stats doesn’t matter, even playing different eras. It’s all about leading your team to a championship. So Duncan has a greater edge over Malone there. I really cant say whose the GPFOAT but I really think they’re the ones on top of the list.

    UFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER Posted: Aug.21 at 7:49 am
    RIGO, ITS EASY TO SAY DUMB SHII LIKE THAT ISNT IT?

    Neitel Posted: Aug.21 at 12:41 pm
    he is good, but he is NOT the greatest power forward…if you ask an 10 year old, maybe…but not if you ask me!!

    The Philosopher Posted: Aug.21 at 12:45 pm
    By the way, Garnett is better…

    Heals Posted: Aug.21 at 2:09 pm
    Duncan wouldn’t have won sh*t in the 80′s and 90′s either – earning your name with statement. Philo what do you base KG being better on? Not saying I disagree, but chips and teammates aside (which in a way is ridiculous to not include) it’s like splitting hairs…

    The Philosopher Posted: Aug.21 at 2:14 pm
    Heals:
    Garnett was as good or better than Duncan in every way, except in one thing.
    Leadership.
    Duncan’s leadership is still nearly unmatched.
    Garnett is the better athlete.
    Better shooter.
    Better passer.
    Better ball handler.
    More versatile defender.
    Better scorer.

    Heals Posted: Aug.21 at 2:31 pm
    Thanks Philo now I got more ammo for my KG v TD arguments. Good points, although I think I’d give Timmy the edge in being an anchor down low offensively (greatly facilitating movement, involvement, etc. on offense) and TD’s even keel suits him better for big moments/adversity…

    The Philosopher Posted: Aug.21 at 2:33 pm
    Yeah, I think it’s all about preference when it’s all said and done.

    nbk Posted: Aug.21 at 3:34 pm
    Tim Duncan is btter then Garnett at protecting the rim, and his fundamentals in the post both offensively and defensively are better then Garnett. I’d take Duncan

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Tarzan, you would know all about saying dumb sh*t wouldn’t you?

  • M5

    Tim Duncan is a Center.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    Kevin Garnett is not a better scorer than Duncan. He scored slightly more points on worse percentages, and made Lebron James, Wilt Chamberlain, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone and Elvin Hayes look like the clutchest players in the NBA.
    Garnett’s definitely a better passer (one of the best passing bigs ever) and he’s a better rebounder although that may be slightly statistically overblown because Garnett simply did not play with as many rebounding bigs as Duncan did…
    Defensively, that is very tough. Duncan was a better shot blocker but Garnett would routinely disrupt the passing lanes like a guard. Both were great isolation defenders, lockdown anchors… too tough to separate them in this category.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    They’re really quite on par with each other, Duncan I’d say being a bit better because of his clutchness, but the careers obviously set them apart.
    A quick list of all-time PF greats, imho: Duncan, Malone, Garnett, Barkley, McHale, Nowitzki, Pettit, Hayes, DeBuscherre… last one is always a hard spot… Rodman was just in the HoF so I almost want to put him there…. but I could equally go with Webber or Buck Williams.

  • bklynspursfan

    to the guy saying malone is better than duncan? research their playoff stats and get back to me. 1 guy improved and his stats elevated while the other guys decreased… Here’s a hint, the guy who played better in the playoffs for his team, actually has championships.

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