Wednesday, October 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am  |  33 responses

Derrick Rose Against a Salary Cap in the NBA

The salary cap issue has become a major point of contention in the NBA labor talks lately, and Derrick Rose is against it (since he’s grossly underpaid as a result of the cap.) The AP reports: “Because of rookie salary scale restrictions, the league’s reigning MVP earns about $5.5 million a season — far less than other NBA stars. The scale is on the table between the league and players’ association during its extended labor dispute that could result in more games being canceled and might wipe out the season. Rose, in Hawaii this week visiting military personnel as part of the Hoops for Troops USO Tour, will undoubtedly earn a lot more when he becomes a free agent at the end of his four-year, $22.5 million contract, depending on the new agreement, of course. ‘I wish it was back like where it was in the old days where there wasn’t a cap,’ Rose told The Associated Press on Tuesday. ‘Back in the day, they were giving guys coming out of college multimillion-dollar contracts, so why stop it now? The game is growing. There’s no need to stop it.’ The union would like players to get out from the rookie salary scale quicker than five years. On Monday, union executive director Billy Hunter mentioned Rose and Rookie of the Year Blake Griffin during an hour-long podcast with ESPN.com as examples of players who are underpaid because there are still locked into their scale figures. The league said it has proposed a new bonus pool for top-performing rookie scale players who earn league honors as such as MVP or are on the All-NBA first, second or third teams.”

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  • Zabbah

    The cap is crap.

  • Justin

    Rose needs to shut up. Poor baby is only making $5.5M to play basketball. Suck it up princess, the players “back in the day” got everything they asked for and more.

  • BlackStar

    Overall, I believe they should make all NBA contracts shorter. Many of these players sign long deals, get complacent and don’t put forth the effort to become better ballers. If contracts are shorter, I’m sure the players would work harder and improve their skills from year to year because if they don’t, they won’t be in the league that long … Or they won’t make the kind of money they would like.

  • alex

    ^Justin makes no sense at all telling him to suck it up but saying that others got everything they asked for… well thats what he is doing and he is just saying that the players now aren’t getting what they wanted and they are speaking up on it.

  • Himsay

    $22.5 million over 4 years is not a “multi-million dollar contract”? The players should let their union reps speak for them and not speak individually.

  • LA Huey

    I was reading somewhere about the hypocrisy of the owners trying to shorten veteran contract lengths but not trying to do the same with rookie contracts or instituting a reward system for rookies outperforming their contracts.

  • bull22

    i really respect rose, and in the greated scheme of things all atheletes are overpaid.. but if you look at what is available (moneywise) if joe johnson and rashard lewis get ridiculous amounts for not even carrying the franchise,
    then rose easily should command top pay. a hard cap is needed to control the rest of players but rose will be able to make lots of money with his attitude. he just needs to chill with his comments.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I read that too LA Huey.
    Also I mentioned the hypocrisy of owners initially pushing for the ability to cut or dock the pay of underperforming players, but not talking about adding a provision for paying players who outplay their contracts more money.
    Come on. This is exactly how the NFL does business. If you don’t sign a mega deal as a rookie, you are likely getting shafted as far as pay for four or five years unless you holdout and risk becoming a pariah.
    The game is already rigged, these owners just want it rigged more.

  • 23

    If there was no rookie scale, how much money would have been thrown away on greg oden???? Or kwame brown????? Or baragni???? Or marvin williams???? Or darko????? Those dudes were all overpaid as it was. Derrick needs to understand that rookies need to EARN, not be givin anything due to what they did in college!

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    NBA rookies have been underpaid especially compared to NFL rookies before this season. Im still SMH at Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford’s rookie contracts

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    How bout also docking or cutting the pay of coaches and GMs that underperform?

  • cramzy

    The owners put in the rookie scale in to save themselves from their dumb a** selves. Remember Big Dog Robinson’s 10 year rookie deal? When the new deal is in place they’ll figure out how to give a guy that put up 10 and 8 in a contract year 50 mil and we’ll be right back in this situation again.

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    I don’t see how the rookie scale really relates to the salary cap. Take away the salary cap and no small market team will have a chance at winning, simple as that.

  • Patrick

    Abolish both unions. No salary caps, no middle-level expections, no bird rules, etc…no cba’s…

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Derrick Rose made $5.5 mil last year.
    Michael Jordan made $2 mil in his third year when he put up 37.1, 5.2 rbs, 4.6 asts, 2.9 stls and 1.5 blks per.
    I’m just saying, not ALL guys were getting paid crazy money “back in the day”.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That was some pretty crazy money back then wasn’t it?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Magic signed a 25 year 25 million dollar contract in 1980, that was the first time a player was making more then $1M annually if I’m not mistaken. So 6 years later a 3rd year guy making $2M would have been a lot of money, right?

  • T-Money

    young nba superstars are the best bargain in sports. in the world. 5 mil or less for guys like kd, derrick rose and blake griffin? that’s cray. can you imagine the money bron was making for the cavs in his early days while they were only paying him 5 mil?

  • LA Huey

    Comparing the salaries of 3rd yr Jordan to 3rd yr Rose is decieving if you’re not comparing the leagues revenue at the times. If the league was only generating a fraction of the money as it is now, how is it fair to compare player salaries of different generations?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @LAHuey – true.

  • Bill Sunday

    if players don’t want a salary cap that’s fine. However, they should have it like the NFL where only some of it is guaranteed like maybe 60%. The player can earn the rest of the 40% if they “earn” it.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com yada

    it seems like the owners blaming everyone for their losses but themselves. if you’re the owner of a franchise that means u make all the final decisions right?? well who’s fault is it really??

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  • naz

    At the end of the day its the owners are in power no matter what the players should just suck it up. Also if Rose cant do simple math how did he get into college, oh I forgot calipari and Rose paid someone to take Rose SAT’s stupid Memphis tigers always cheating to recruit players.

  • John Wall Jr

    Why are players blamed for the contracts that owners give to them.?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    re: naz, 5:59 pm.
    The reason why American taxpayers are paying for corporate bailouts while jobs are being cut… And why CEO’s are cutting themselves $10 million bonuses while their companies face bankruptcy… And why nobody does anything about it.

  • jsmallz

    grossly under paid? I know this guy is awsome but to be paid this kind of money to play a game. owners have def over paid players over the years now all these baby’s just want more and more? to be a concern cant be to make tickets to see these guys cheaper.not players fault they get these contracts but at the same time they have come to expect to much..be nice if a portion of the revenue or player salary goes to foundations,,,real ones not fake ones where the cause doesnt even get the money

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Ironically, @justin is the one who sounds like the hurt princess.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Too many people blame the players, So if the players get less, are we going to start blaming the owners and say they are making too much with the BILLIONS they get. People just look at it from a jealous and ignorant perspective if you ask me, because the players just want to be fairly compensated. Why is it OK for the owners to make as much as they do, but people get upset at these star players who make some of these franchises as successful as they are.

  • KBJ

    somebody tell this kid be quite, leave the talking for the nba OGs

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Slick Ric
    That is a wonderful question. I have plenty of theories and have expressed some of them. But, people really should ask themselves why there are so upset about 450 people making 2.16 billion but not upset about 30 people making $2.14 billion.

  • One

    Jerry Buss stated Kobe was infact worth 70 million a year to the franchise!