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Monday, October 31st, 2011 at 3:15 pm  |  101 responses

Shaq to Kobe During Their Feud: ‘I Will Kill You’


The initial excerpts from Shaq’s new book were amazing. What Deadspin unearthed today (read the whole thing, trust me) — from threats on Kobe’s life during an argument, to a hilarious near-fight with Pat Riley – is even more entertaining: “So I’m on edge because I don’t have I don’t have a new deal, and Kobe is on edge because he might be going to jail, so we’re taking it out on each other. Just before the start of the ’03-’04 season the coach staff called us in and said, ‘No more public sparring or you’ll get fined.’ … Phil was tired of it. Karl Malone and Gary Payton were sick of it. … So what happens? Immediately after that Kobe runs right out to Jim Gray and does this interview where he lets me have it. He said I was fat and out of shape. He said I was milking my toe injury for more time off, and the injury wasn’t even that serious. (Yeah, right. It only ended my damn career.) He said I was “lobbying for a contract extension when we have two Hall of Famers playing pretty much for free.’ I’m sitting there watching this interview and I’m gonna explode. Hours earlier we had just promised our coach we’d stop. It was a truce broken. I let the guys know, ‘I’m going to kill him.’ Kobe stands up and goes face-to-face with me and says, ‘You always said you’re my big brother, you’d do anything for me, and then this Colorado thing happens and you never even called me.’ I did call him. … So here we are now, and we find out he really was hurt that we didn’t stand behind him. That was something new. I didn’t think he gave a rat’s ass about us either way. ‘Well, I thought you’d publicly support me, at least,’ Kobe said. ‘You’re supposed to be my friend.’ Brian Shaw chimed in with ‘Kobe, why would you think that? Shaq had all these parties and you never showed up for any of them. We invited you to dinner on the road and you didn’t come. Shaq invited you to his wedding and you weren’t there. Then you got married and didn’t invite any of us. And now you are in the middle of this problem, this sensitive situation, and now you want all of us to step up for you. We don’t even know you.’ … Everyone was starting to calm down when I told Kobe, ‘If you ever say anything like what you said to Jim Gray ever again, I will kill you.’ Kobe shrugged and said, ‘Whatever.’”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Shaq should have took the charge and ended that little bit*hes life and saved us hours and hours of countless internet arguments about his basketball worth!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    I liked this one too: “My first Lakers season we had a couple of rookies, and we hazed them pretty badly. We were dogging them out constantly. It was “Go get my bags, go get me something to eat.” It was kind of a rite of passage in the NBA that a lot of teams do, but we probably went a little too far with it. One of the rookies—Derek Fisher—just took it. The other rookie—Kobe Bryant—ratted us out to Jerry West.”

  • james

    shaq wasn’t gonna do sh*t

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    This is even better: “My ticket out of Miami was punched in mid-February 2008. There was a lot of tension between Pat and the players. So we’re about to start practice and Jason Williams comes in about ten seconds late. Pat being Pat, he starts swearing at him and screaming, “Get the hell out of here!”…

    I tell Pat we’re a team and we need to stick together, not throw guys out of the gym. Pat is screaming at me and says if I don’t like it, then I should get the hell out of practice, too.

    That’s when I said, “Why don’t you make me?”

    I start taking a couple of steps towards Pat. Udonis Haslem steps in and I shove him out of the way. Then Zo tries to grab me. I threw him aside like he was a rag doll. Now it’s me and Riley face-to-face, jaw to jaw. I’m poking him in the chest and he keeps slapping my finger away and it’s getting nasty. Noisy, too. He’s yelling “Fu*k you!” and I’m yelling back, “No, fu*k you!”

    Zo is trying to calm us both down and he has this kind of singsong panic in his voice. He keeps saying, “Big fella, no big fella, big fella!” I finally turn around and tell him, “Don’t worry, I’m not going to hit the man. Do you think I’m crazy?”

  • MUBWAR

    ohhh sensitive little Kobe.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The Brian Shaw comments are the most telling. Oh Kobe if only you were a good teammate, how much more success you would have had…..

  • Fat Lever

    Interesting stuff, for sure. But based on Shaq’s track record can we really take his word as what happened in every instance?

  • Confususs

    F*** this ol’ fat bast*rd. Shaq, dominant as he was, is still a lazy fool. Kudos to Kobe for actually taking the game seriously.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    What has he lied about happening? He has lied about his opinion of teammates (Like Dwyane Wade is the best player I’ve ever played with” but I don’t know about him lying about events that can be confirmed. Especially considering he quoted people.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Sure, Shaq never took the game “seriously”. That’s why he’s the only player not named MJ to win 3 straight Final MVPs in dominating fashion. Boy, Shaq was a big disappointment.

  • james

    nbk just because he ‘quoted’ somebody doesn’t mean they actually said it smh

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Uhm….it would be slander if he wrote about Brian Shaw, Kobe or Pat Riley in a demeaning matter and it wasn’t true. Riley has confirmed several times this instance happened. Kobe never denied his role in their relationship. Zo and UD could verify the fight claim with Riles too. Unless those guys come out publicly and call Shaq a liar, you can believe this sh*t’s true.

  • james

    eboy you obviously do not know what slander is

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Not referring to a legal explanation of it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’m sure Brian Shaw will deny it if it isn’t true. And I’m also under the impression a quote like that wouldn’t be published in Shaq’s book if it were false. Considering Brian Shaw and Shaq are still relatively close…. Plus who is really dumb enough to believe Kobe is a good teammate? lol – this is more “confirmation” than “news”

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    What reason does Shaq have to lie anyway? (and don’t say “too sell books”, his book would sell if he wrote about Unicorns)

  • james

    oh wow. come on guys. kobe and shaq don’t like each other. when two people don’t like each other they often embellish situations between them to make the person that they don’t like seem crazy. im sure everything shaq says about kobe isn’t 100% true. just like im sure if kobe wrote a book, everything he would say about shaq would not be 100% true.

  • T-Money

    i have no problem believing that kobe was distant from his teammates. he played damn near his whole career with d-fish and never invited him to his house! it’s also true that none of the lakers were invited to his wedding.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Why are you under the impression he wrote this book about Kobe? Kobe is in it, obviously. ANd everything he said that I’ve read so far about KObe is right in line with what everyone has been saying about Kobe his whole career. He’s selfish, a bad teammate, and driven. Shaq didn’t really say anything slanderous (for instance, he didn’t accuse Kobe of cheating on his wife and paying off women to keep it silent)

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Insert anti-Kobe, pro-Shaq comment here.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    There is no anti-anything. We are talking about words in a book. Not opinions of commenters.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    sensitive much?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    You’re gonna kill us?

    No I’m not, just kidding.

  • jfizzle

    Pretty sure kobe.shoild.of.played a non team sport like tennis.he would.of killed it with that drive

  • riggs

    Is this the Jackie Mac book that she wrote for shaq? cause if it is you can believe all of this is 100% factual. She fact-checks everything she writes and you can put money on that.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I just think it’s funny to act like Shaq is a good person and has no blame in the feuds and problems surrounding the Lakers in those days. They are both sleazes. One trys to look better in public, the other doesn’t give a f*ck. Carry on though. Like Bean, I don’t give a f*ck.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Man I can’t wait until the season starts in a month.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Shaq has obvious blame in the feud. You don’t sing “how my ass taste” without looking like a d*ckhead.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Without being*** a d*ckhead. My bad

  • Ali

    Man who gives a f***, some female shi* if you ask me. He said, she said…2012 is almost upon us, and muggs is still on this shi*.

  • james

    im just using the kobe thing as an example. i never fully believe any autobiography of any kind. it makes for good reading though. and only fools believe everything they read.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    So Kobe doesn’t try to look “better” in public with all the calling out of teammates in the parking lots and when they are no longer with the team. Trust that Kobe cares about what the public thinks of him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    I’m shocked that Eboy left out this gem and posted everything else that makes Bean look like an a**hole. Shocked I say!
    ..”He was so young and so immature in some ways, but I can tell you this: everything Kobe is doing now, he told me all the way back then he was going to do it. We were sitting on the bus once and he told me, “I’m going to be the number one scorer for the Lakers, I’m going to win five or six championships, and I’m going to be the best player in the game.” I was like, “Okay, whatever.” Then he looked me right in the eye and said, “I’m going to be the Will Smith of the NBA.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Nick….I hit that on Twitter earlier. It was a dazzling display of how much of a herb Bean truly is.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Ofcourse not everything will be 100% true – but events that can be confirmed or denied are normally the type of thing you could trust – especially a book that will sell like this one

  • kobesBESTfriend

    if shaq was really worried about a deal in 2003 he woulda came to camp in shape.if he really wanted a truce with kobe he woulda stood behind him instead of doing all that childish BS…instead he ruined what could of been the best dynasty in sports ever!!!

  • LA Huey

    That Riles-Shaq confrontation that Eboy posted was hilarious. Haslem and Zo bounce right off of Shaq as he approaches an angry and overmatched Riley.
    I’ll add this one to the library queue for sure. Fact or fiction, I don’t care. Just like I’m willing to allow fiction to stand or brush aside facts whenever I think of the Legend of Jordan, Bird, or Magic.

  • Charles Breen

    Im just saying kobe was 17 in the first part of his NBA season and Shap was like a 20 something year old man and D fish had college so obviously he wasn’t as mature. But overall I HATE SHAQ lol. seriously its common sense. Everywhere he goes theres a problem, so logically he is the problem. But thats just me cause i hate him lol, but the book seems interesting

  • james

    “im gonna be the will smith of the nba.” does sound like some dumb stuff kobe would say though. and im a kobe fan lol

  • james

    “im gonna be the will smith of the nba.” does sound like some dumb stuff kobe would say though. and im a kobe fan lol

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    I wish the fly on the wall that followed Shaqbe would write a tell-all book.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Shaq still don’t want it with Skiles tho.
    Nah, just playing. Shaq would stomp dude.

  • Tebowiswack

    Shaq will say any/everything to stay relevant.

  • Leonitu$

    I’m pretty sure that if Kobe writes a book (you know he will), there’s definitely going to be a chapter about the “shaq years” Its just something that cannot be omitted or ignored. Their careers will always be”tied together” Ultimately both will be judged by what they did on the hardwood floor. Both 1st ballot HOF’s.All that other stuff is just soap opera baloney to sell….books…

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    why hasn’t anyone made jokes about the fifteen 24-hour fitness that he owns but only three has his name on them?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    The Big Goon.

  • http://Www.imdb.com TheBigL

    Oh my God Eboy, you are such a hater.

  • MLK4Life

    Time for all of this to stop. Two grown men, time to grow up. Especially Shaq. People tend to like Shaq more because he’s playful and all of that. Great. But he’s just as much to blame for that craziness as Kobe is. How dare Kobe want Shaq to practice? How dare Kobe want Shaq to come into camp in shape? At least Kobe has tried to move on. Shaq keeps bringing it back up. Kobe’s won two without Shaq. D-Wade carried Shaq in the Finals to win another one. I’d say Kobe came out on top ultimately. Let it go Big Fella.

  • kjonesman

    As a lifelong Laker fan I can’t help but salivate thinking what could’ve been if both these knuckleheads could’ve peacefully co-existed. The Lakers could’ve had a Celtic-like run of championships …

  • http://YAHOO Sharron Robinson

    This is very interesting and entertaining stuff…Really, really good! I will purchase this book because I am sure there are more of where this comes from. Regarding the Shaq and Kobe Thing…I believe in their souls they are truly like brothers so much so that one expects the other to know everything about the other…And the fact is they still would have needed to spend “personal” time together to bond and then everything else would be like second nature. Consequently, they participated in a sibling rivalry and hurt eachother because they didn’t truly have a chance to bond effectively…This is what ego, pride, fame and fortune do to folks…SO WHAT ABOUT NOW FOR IT’S NEVER TOO LATE.

  • http://gmail.com z

    I hate to say it, but you guys are pretty predictable as far as what you’re opinions are going to be anytime the topic is kobe. All the ppl who are usually inclined to criticize kob are taking your opportunity to do so (you never miss a chance), and the usual apologists are absent, save lakeshow. Probably the most sanguine comment was by mlk4life. Well said and I agree that in the long run kob won out over shaq. Anyway, some of yall need to be a lil less predictable (not you eboy, you’re one hater I never get tired of)@eboy what was your story involving whit eboy in summer of 06?

  • jayb

    great lets rehatch old ish…great..nothing like starting up gossip again..great…espn should have a field day with this one..we know this..they cool now…fine..i am over it!!!

  • Bakari Tajuddin

    I’m a Die hard Lakers Fan for well over 30 years and find both Shaq and Kobe being wrong for ever placing “In House Disagreements To The Public”,as this will surely make public opinion divide a team as Fans may Love Lakers that in fact Only love Lakers due to Shaq or Kobe being on there roster.Than you have us true Die Hard fans who will ride or die with Our Beloved Team regardless of Wins,Lost or who is on our teams roster.Those who are fans of players will take the side of the player and not investigate the TRUTH nor care to Hear or Know the truth making a Isolated Incident into a Pure Disaster and there goes the Unity and there goes the chance of Lakers Possibly winning 6-10 Championship’s Together having the leagues Best Two Players on the same roster along with other HOF players and great Role players,but never happened cause NEITHER could keep there Damn Mouth’s Shut or there Massive EGO’S.Kobe and Shaq were and Kobe still is One Of the Best Eva to play this game as Shaq was by far the Most dominant Eva,but was Lazy as hell and Kobe was a player who lacked the ability to trust his team mates and may have had some issues with there ability to put in the work to earn his trust,but was seen as selfish and in some cases that was true.I just hope that these books and talk would Stop as it does nothing for the game We All Love,but Diminish It and this I Personally can do without as I’m sure you too could agree.Lets get back to Basket ball Please,lol

  • blakos

    Enjoyable Read..

  • Stillballin

    I gotta get this book..

  • Stan the Boy Taylor

    I love how Eboy pastes basically the entire article into the comments after he’s read it. ‘Oh I liked this bit! (paste) And this bit! (paste) AND THIS BIT! (paste)’. Seems sort of unnecessary.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I knew Shaq would try to sell his book using the best player of the decade. Kobe name in this book will help Shaq sell this book, just look above at all of these idiotic comments. Kobe is a winner and Shaq plays on company time. The thing about this book is Shaq can say whatever he wants in this book like its fact. Shaq still trying to make money off Kobe, he should just star Basketball EX-men for underachievers. BOOK IT!!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    There goes the Seed again gracing us with his intellectual presence.

  • DukeFromDeep

    @eboy. What an opener. I LMFAO…

  • http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/a-quick-guide-to-the-issues-of-the-nba-lockout/2011/10/11/gIQAon1ZbL_story.html unf*ckwitable

    F*ck Shaq.

  • Robb

    lol @ you kobe slurpers.

  • flash

    Kobe is the hardest worker in the NBA…he came into the league with a big chip on his shoulder and was probably to brass as a rookie and second year player. But no one can deny his relentless pursuit of championships and his unmatched work ethic 6 hour workouts etc…Shaq always was a gifted player but was constantly an underachiever, lazy, and a big mouth. Don’t take my word for it listen to the dozens of times Phil Jackson has said this in interviews and his books. Kobe is a leader and a warrior; Shaq is a player who never learned to shoot free throws. Shaq took his job for granted and it a lazy ass. period.

  • Heals

    riggs speaking the truth on JackieMac! Who would I want to play with – Shaq, who would I want to hang out with – Shaq, who would I want to watch on TNT – Shaq, who would I read a book by – Shaq. I’m positive that the arrival of Diesel (and the teamwide entertainment that ensued) in Boston, Mass helped the players and fans heal a little quicker from Gm7′s deep wounds. To me Kobe is a basketball player, Shaq is a person…

  • willie lum lump

    I’m pretty sure Phill already covered this and I would believe him before either playaer seeing as how he didn’t have a stake either way how it played out.

  • http://com-fsmwebmail Boldwin

    Shaq and kobe arguing that is a shame.

  • aotearaw

    @Eboy, what’s your Twitter handle bro?

    Oh, and Kobe’s a b*tch.

  • robb

    Say what you want about Kobe, the guy is driven, he just goes for it and doesn’t give a f*ck about anything else. You gotta respect that. If Shaq had trained with the same dedication as Kobe instead of relying only on his size and talent, he’d probably be the best center ever.

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    HEY GUYS, LET’S TAKE SIDES IN A TEN YEAR OLD FEUD BETWEEN MILLIONAIRES AND/OR SAY WE DON’T CARE ANY MORE!

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    “None of the Five Guys I own have my name on it.”
    Is ‘five guys’ some kind of store, or does Shaq simply have enough money to buy people outright now?

  • Heals

    All valid points robb. If I added who do I want to teach me the game – KobeI , but I think the BShaw quote gets at it. If only Kob would’ve given 25% more of a f*** about being “one of the guys” his perception among a certain group of hoopsheads/parts of Phi/a segment of the League would probably be much more positive…

  • LA Huey

    Because you can’t dislike Kobe without taking Shaq’s side? I chuckled when Diesel asked Mamba how it tasted and smiled when Kobe said his 5th ring was sweet simply for the fact it meant he had just topped Shaq’s ring count. One is a jerk with charisma and the other is a jerk with an unquenchable thirst for success.

  • Maniac

    Lol. Kobe haters. SMH

  • Igor

    how can i learn where e-boy lives, i definitely need to have a “talk” with him

  • Blinguo

    CTRL + F “Shaw Shaq Connection”
    “Shaq-Fu” Nothin’ Maybe next year.

  • Blinguo

    People should debate the hate over towards Shaq and Kobe’s rapping careers, respectively. That’s probably never been debated, ever. Everything else has.

  • http://slamonline.com Neitel#2

    WOW

  • Red Star

    Kobe’s the best! Lakers 4 Life!!

  • Purple&Gold

    The hate of Mr. Bryant is amazing! First, this is the same Shaq who had nothing nice to say about every team that gave him the boot. Second, I’m not, nor are any of you a teammate of Kobe’s so why do you care about a bunch of millionaire ball players complaining about who likes who? Third, as a FAN of Mr. Bryant’s, I’ve watched a fierce competitor dominate your favorite player for over a decade. And along the way, won an MVP, 2 Finals MVP’s, 3 Allstar MVP’s, score 81 points, and win 5 championships. I wouldn’t care if he kicked the ball-boy in the a** on the way off the court, he’s a winner!!! The difference between Kobe and every single player that has played since Michael Jordan, is that he’s a driven, proven WINNER. There is no amount of HATE that can take that away!!!

  • purple&gold

    Over Kobe’s career (not including Jordan)he has been compared and matched up against his peers with the question “who’s better?”- Kobe/Iverson, Kobe/T-Mac, Kobe/Vince Carter, Kobe/Ray Allen, Kobe/Wade, Kobe/LeBron. out of all those superstar names, the final score is Kobe 5 rings/allstar cast 2 rings

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Kobe’s Will Smith. Nothing else needs to be said.

  • ALEX80

    There are pictures of Shaq and Kobe making love in a hot tub.

  • Sinbad

    Fame and fortune are both poisonous to the human spirit. I’ve spent most of my adult life in the company of rich and famous people and only two were decent hunman beings. The rest were all sphincter muscles who were absolutely convinced their fecal matter didn’t stink. Kobe Bryant is a brilliant basketball player, no doubt, but he is a self-absorbed, egotistical louse who will probably teach his children to emulate his behavior. Does anyone believe his spouse will instill character and moral rectitude in them despite Kobe’s presence in their lives? Not likely, given her penchant for hogging the spotlight and acting spitefully if she perceives she’s been slighted in any way. And Shaq? That big teddy bear act is just that, an act. Whatever you’ve heard about Shaq and his philandering ways when he was married, well, it’s ten times worse than what has been exposed. Shaq is a phony, but he gets away with it because he seems so genuinely likable. BULLTWINKS!!! He’s as much of a louse as Kobe. News flash for Kobe and Shaq: The worms are going to eat you just like the poor guy living in Compton or Harlem.

  • Drig

    As a huge fan of both players, it does make me sad to see Shaq diss Kobe like this again and I hope Kobe doesn’t reply in kind. We already know one’s an asshole with tons of charisma and one is just that lonely talented brat who doesn’t trust others as much as he should. ( I could certainly understand Kobe believing that him doing his bit is better than hoping to get help from others part quite easily ). Also, I don’t get why people get angry with Kobe not hanging out with his teammates ALL the time. Remember folks, Kobe was from a different age group with a different background than all other teammates he had when he arrived ( even DFish had college ). So naturally for a guy like him, it’s bound to be difficult to mesh in with them especially since he isn’t the kind of guy who likes parties and stuff. Also, Kobe keeping work and personal life entirely separate is something that I can’t understand why others would hate!

  • Drig

    BTW, I never said what Shaq said was entirely wrong. But it depends on perspectives. Kobe epitomizes what “professional” means better than almost anyone I’ve ever seen.

  • biggz

    Alex80, u crossed the line! But hilarious

  • LakerFan999

    Shaq has always been a great entertainer, but regretfully, was a woeful underachiever in basketball. Unlike great palyers like Magic, Kobe and MJ, Shaq never worked on improving during the off-season, or on maintaining tip-top conditioning. Magic, who was only a mediocre free throw shooter early in his career, dedicated an entire off-season to working on his free throws to become an outstanding free throw shooter. Had Shaq really put the time in on working on his free throws, he would have averaged over 40 points many seasons, and might even be considered the greatest center in NBA history. But, we all look forward to seeing Shaq entertain us outside of basketball for many years to come.

  • Trey K

    All you Kobe haters must be Lebron fans….

  • Oh Noes

    This is a “TMZ” version of Rodman not having conversations with Michael and Scottie. Can’t wait to get this book.

  • Gerard

    Get A Life, KOBE is the Best Basketball Player in the league! That’s all that matters. You Don’t Know him personally!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    According to SLAM he’s the third best player in the league, but who’s counting?

  • https://plus.google.com/photos/106403650426394352312/albums/posts davidR

    ugh, your comment made me laugh. five guys is the name of a burger joint

  • http://jacksoj3@sutterhealth.org Jeffrey Jackson

    Well,
    This is not the firs time two superstars did not get along. Shaq is comming out with his book and that okay because this all proberly happened and more. It goes to show you how great of a coach Phil was to handle all of this. Shaq and Kobe are both great players. Shaq more great because there has never been a player over 300 pounds to run the floor. Like to see Kobe carry that much weight and run. Also it funny that Kobe rarely pratice last year because of recovering injuries. Ummm is this not what Shaq was doing in his latter years. Something about an old body; they don’t seem to respond to the same. So these older players like Bill Russle rarely practiced with his team in the latter part of his career. Magic Johnson didn’t practice in full in the latter part of his carreer. Kareem barely made it up in down the court in the latter part of career. Age will do that to you and certainly being over 300 pounds. Peace out.

  • http://jacksoj3@sutterhealth.org Jeffrey Jackson

    Well,
    This is not the firs time two superstars did not get along. Shaq is comming out with his book and that okay because this all proberly happened and more. It goes to show you how great of a coach Phil was to handle all of this. Shaq and Kobe are both great players. Shaq more great because there has never been a player over 300 pounds to run the floor. Like to see Kobe carry that much weight and run. Also it funny that Kobe rarely pratice last year because of recovering injuries. Ummm is this not what Shaq was doing in his latter years. Something about an old body; they don’t seem to respond to the same. So these older players like Bill Russle rarely practiced with his team in the latter part of his career. Magic Johnson didn’t practice in full in the latter part of his carreer. Kareem barely made it up in down the court in the latter part of career. Age will do that to you and certainly being over 300 pounds. Peace out.

  • http://jacksoj3@sutterhealth.org Jeffrey Jackson

    I don’t get it. For so many people that claim they know basketball don’t seem to know anything. Name me one player other the Shaq that played above 300 pounds and has multiple rings. No way can you say he is lazy or you are saying the rest of the league couldn’t stop an underachiever or an fat out of shape 300 plus pound man. Don’t forget the owners change from man-to-man to zone to help teams stop Shaq. Also teams fouled him for no reason just to stop him. Never happened with Kobe or Jordan. Shaq was a game changer regardless of what shape he was in or his loud mouth. Most of the time he backed his big mouth up. As Riley he definitely had balls to stand up to Shaq; however he proberly never would have done that on the street to someone he didn’t have on his clock. They should check Riley chest to see the finger prints are still there.

  • Drig

    Eboy………that’s the most effective player in your team list. Not the mano-e-mano best basketball player. I guess Gerard meant that……

  • nwhoru

    To: EBOY @3:19pm… or, you could do us a favor and end yours!

  • JBV

    Shaq always seems to want to prove himself. He’s often speaking on how great he is. Why do that, if you know you’re great? I’d be like “im awesome and therefore don’t care what eveyone else thinks of me” but this Shaq-man keeps repeating and repeating how STRONG he is and how GREAT he is, how DOMINANT he is.

    I think i remember a quote from him saying he’s a kid stuck in a big mans body. I think he might be serious about it.

    Bottom-line. Dude. Grow up. Leave it. You were great, and you are great. Who cares what everyone else thinks?

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    @Jeffrey Jackson: I find it impossible that Wilt after 1965 was less than 300lbs.
    UH OH, I JUST BUSTED OUT WILT. THIS THREAD IS GOING TO HELL!

  • Shag

    I knew about the side of Kobe that Brian Shaw is talking about, because told Jim Rome about not “hanging out with the other guys because they go to strip clubs.” I watched the show and couldn’t believe was outing them like that. Sure enough, two months later is when the Denver incident happened.

  • Zabbah

    Shaq said he’ll also kill Lebron if he took any of his fries.

  • Dax

    Still a big baby; everyone was right about him. Talented, egotistical, unwilling to accept criticism that could have saved his career. Kobe is the very least of his problems. He’s his problem.

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