Monday, November 7th, 2011 at 4:05 pm  |  32 responses

David Stern Details Ultimatum to NBA Players in Letter

Just so everyone is clear on what exactly the NBA’s ultimatum to its players is, David Stern detailed the nitty-gritty in a letter to the union leadership. Per the NY Times (which got a copy of the leaked missive): “A letter sent by David Stern, the commissioner of the N.B.A., to the players union Sunday contrasts the proposal on the table — highlighted by a 50-50 split of revenues — with a ‘reset’ proposal that would cut the players’ share to 47 percent, roll back current contracts, impose a hard salary cap and reduce contract lengths. The salary rollback, which was part of the N.B.A.’s first controversial proposal in 2010, had not been included in any league proposal for many months, and it was not publicly mentioned by Stern when he announced the ultimatum Saturday night. But the rollback was included in the letter Stern sent to Billy Hunter, the union’s executive director. A copy of the letter was obtained by The New York Times. The union has until 5 p.m. Wednesday to accept the N.B.A.’s last proposal or have it replaced by the reset proposal, Stern wrote. ‘Rather than simply proceeding, as we could have, to offer a less favorable proposal at this time, the N.B.A. is providing an additional period of time for the players association to consider our 50/50 proposal,’ Stern wrote. ‘We are hopeful that the prospect of a less favorable outcome for the players will prompt the players association to realize that the best deal that can be reached is the one the N.B.A. is prepared to make right now.’ Stern closes, ‘Billy, I sincerely hope that we can reach an agreement over the next few days.’”

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  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Honestly this is just a big pile bullsh*t the owners are using to try and force the players to accept their deal. The NBA season is looking about as likely as Harold Campings End of the World predictions.

  • KBJ

    they better take the “slave masters” offer lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If the Union does decertify, what is the next step if the court ruling favors the players? And what happens if the players lose their anti-trust suit against the owners? Do they have to renegotiate the terms of the Union before a new CBA? This aspect of all of this I am completely lost on.

  • Heals

    One can only hope there isn’t a PR campaign clever enough to subvert the true nature of the actions taken by Stern and the Owners in the last 72hours…

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Call his bluff.

  • http://t.co/ulnwjShF Allenp

    Notice the threat to take money back from existing contracts.
    And the removal of player and team options EXCEPT for on rookie deals.
    And the new rules on sign and trades, and the changes in the mid level of tax paying teams.
    And that is a good question NBK. The NBA can allow the League to reform its union. They just need League permission. And I imagine that would happen and the players would be lucky to get 40 percent.
    And the League would have some serious, serious problems moving forward.

  • Chukaz

    I say the players should decertify the union and let antitrust law do its thing. The players should make 6 billion by sitting out the season AND get the terms they want on the next CBA. The players could double their salary for the year and give 2 billion dollars to charities to make it up to the fans for missing the year. Everyone wins! except the owners…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    So basically if they decertify & lose, they are completely screwed?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Alls I know is I’ve read if they players decertify and go the anti-trust suit route, it could take as long as two years to get a season started, though I’m not sure why.
    If that’s the case, would there still be drafts? And if not, can you imagine how stacked the 2014 draft will be if there’s no drafts in 2012 and 2013?

  • andy

    The NBA needs new owners. :(

  • robb

    “Rather than simply proceeding, as we could have, to offer a less favorable proposal at this time, the N.B.A. is providing an additional period of time for the players association to consider our 50/50 proposal”. These m*therf*ckers are so magnanimous.

  • LA Huey

    Now, I have to go use up my time to find out what non-NBA businesses the hardlining owners run and boycott their products and services. If they NBA’s back, they’re going to profit off me but at least I won’t be inadvertently supporting them otherwise.
    Also, anybody know what happens to the revenue the league makes during the lockout? Are the owners still required to split money made off NBA licensed products that are selling despite the lockout?

  • bike

    The NBA: Where bad faith negoiations happen.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I can’t believe that the majority of fans out there are still talking about the players should take any deal the owners gives them because they are “lucky” to be making millions of dollars. What kind of sh*t is that? So the owners deserves to be rolling in dough but the players don’t? I’m not even mad at Stern and the Owners anymore, all my anger is directed towards all those so-called fans with deep-seeded hate and resentment towards the players.

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    Stern later went on to say “Billy, tell me how my a** tastes?!”

  • http://t.co/ulnwjShF Allenp

    Coolwhip with two in one day.

  • Kinetik

    An additional withholding will be applied in Year 1 “to account for business uncertainty” stemming from the lockout – so basically the owners lock the players out and the players pay for the “economic uncertainty” due to the lockout. smh.


    LMAO, Stern is starting to remind me of Baghdad Bob. “You will accept our latest magnificent proposal, or we will crush you and show no mercy.”

  • russell

    Tired of the NBA Lockout? Do something about it!
    NBA Fanout: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/nba-fanout/

    The NBA owners and players have decided it is more important to posture and fight over percentage points of the already billions of dollars they are earning (from US, the fans by the way) each NBA season. During the negotiating, the losing of games, the back and forth over revenue sharing, and the cancelling of games, is either side really considering the fans in all of this? In all sports, owners and players are only worried about the money. So why don’t we remind them where they get it from? The NBA owners want a lockout? I’m calling for a FANOUT. We the fans need to step up and make sure they know who makes it possible.
    I am asking all NBA fans to “ballcott” the NBA this upcoming season if they ever even get it together enough to have games. It’s simple. I’m not asking anyone to stop rooting for their team. I’m not even asking you not to watch games. Just for one season, we can take action.
    For the 2011-2012 season don’t do 2 things:
    1. Don’t go to any NBA games.
    2. Don’t buy any NBA merchandise. No jerseys, hats, stickers, cups, NBA TV packages. Nothing.

    If we do these 2 things the league will have to take notice, and think twice next time they want to cancel our favorite game. How much revenue would they even have to share with each other if we do this?
    I’m encouraging people to do this, just for one season. Why should we let them have all the power? Sign this petition if you agree with me and you are willing to sacrifice just a little bit this one season (and it will save you some money). Let’s show some union solidarity of our own NBA fans. Ballcott the NBA and show them who this is really all about.


    LA Huey one of those “hawks” is Stan Kroenke, though technically his son “owns” the Nuggets now, and if you want to boycott that families big business, don’t shop at Wal-Mart anymore, that is assuming you even do shop there.

  • Justin

    JTaylor, the owners do deserve to be rolling in dough. They’re the ones putting up all the money and taking all the risk. And the players ARE rolling in dough as well, just not as much. No matter what happens in the economy, ratings up or down, or whatever…the players will always make the same amount of money and it’s the owners that take the hit. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

  • LA Huey

    Thanks, ORANGE. But I’ve avoided Wal-Mart like I’m going to catch something from them for a minute now. I once recieved a $50 Wal-Mart gift card and just gave it away. It hurt because that’s back when a fresh video game cost that same amount.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    What risk? Most of them were already filthy rich before venturing into basketball, so miss me with all that ” they have the most to lose” nonsense. Also the players BRI is intertwined with league revenue, so if revenue is down, total players salaries goes down. People with little or no knowledge of the NBA’s financial system seem to be the ones talking the loudest.

  • Patrick

    I vote for either accepting the deal. Or decertify the union. If there’s no union there can be no CBA..just individual contracts with each player. This would be the best solution going forward. Why? There’d be no more “lockouts”. Just “individual” lockouts if a player and owner can’t come to a deal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    ….I just wanna watch one of the sports I love dearly, but I don’t want the players to get screwed over in the process

  • http://360special.blogspot.com dev0

    5pm. Wednesday. Stern and Hunter in a live TV Exclusive. “The Decision II: Deal or No Deal”

  • http://360special.blogspot.com dev0

    this is all way too much drama for me

  • http://www.TheBreakdownShow.com Dave Mendonca

    I’m interested to see if the union puts this to a vote among all the players. I doubt the players would have a unanimous vote against the owners deal. The players need their cash soon. They’re starting to sweat. Kobe and those all star guys will be fine, but it’s the rest of the pack that need to get paid!

  • hushabomb

    @Patrick. So if what you were saying was true and it was implemented, it would be like a MMA fighter or a boxer with an agent booking you’re contract and money. Might be good if you are Kobe, KG, Jesus, KD, Wade, Melo cos you have the clout to do what you like and get what you want. It might be bad if you are Kemba, Jimmer and every other rookie out there cos you don’t have that clout.

    Can the union come down to 52/48 percent split? Or if the owners wanna keep it at 53/47 then I would want more stuff taken care of during and after my career has finished.

    Hey slam, can you the union proposal for both sides and get a lawyer to break it down for us? Why can’t we be fully informed as well in regards to this.

    Whatever the case is, this season is officially gone if the 2 parties can’t make a decision soon.

    If only the And1 tour was still around, they would make a killing right about now!!!

  • Mike

    Stern makes me racist

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Riggs

    @Justin: whatever happens the player get paid and the owners are taking the risk?!? who’s getting paid right now using your logic? cause it damn sure ain’t the players. Also most of the owners have non-basketball related income, while most players have only that to support themselves, so I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.