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Monday, November 7th, 2011 at 1:40 pm  |  26 responses

Report: Hardline NBA Owners to Push for Salary Rollbacks


If you thought the 50/50 split or else ultimatum was bad, just wait until after the players reject that offer this week. Hawkish NBA team owners, according to CBS Sports, will push to reduce the players’ share of the BRI to 47%, and ask to take back some of the guaranteed salary money. Yikes: “I think, at the end of the day, this group (of hard-line owners) said, ‘OK, we will let you do it your way up until Wednesday,’ a person in contact with ownership told CBSSports.com Monday. If the players didn’t accept by Wednesday, those owners would say, ‘We do a deal on our terms,’ the person said. In addition to a 47 percent share of revenues for the players and a flex cap, those terms also would include a relinquishing of guaranteed contracts and a rollback of existing salaries, sources familiar with the hard-line owners’ position said. The deal on the table for the players to accept by Wednesday includes a 50-50 split of revenues, which a significant number of mid-level players are believed to be amenable to and which superstar Kobe Bryant also would be willing to accept, SI.com reported. The proposal includes a band of 49-51 percent for the players, which union attorney Jeffrey Kessler characterized Sunday morning as “a fraud” because revenues would have to explode with 20 percent annual growth for the players ever to receive 51 percent. The union has proposed a 51-49 split in favor of the players, with 1 percent going to benefits for retired players. It seems unlikely that the union would accept the current deal and recommend it to the players for a vote before Wednesday, but members of the executive committee were scheduled to speak Monday afternoon on a conference call to plot their next move ahead of a mandatory meeting of all 30 player reps Tuesday in New York. Union leaders’ key objections center around system issues that they feel league negotiators did not go far enough in addressing during the most recent round of bargaining that led to Sunday morning’s ultimatum. As ESPN.com reported, union negotiators feel that with a few tweaks to the remaining unresolved system issues, they would feel more comfortable recommending the proposal for a vote rather than risk having the process co-opted by radicals on both sides. A successful decertification movement combined with the hard-line owners taking over with their 47 percent offer would throw the talks into chaos and imperil the entire 2011-12 season.”

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  • mytiman

    accept the damn offer. let’s get this season started. ’cause once that offer drops to 47-53 owners, players would push for decertification and would cause us the NBA season this year. probably next season as well.

  • robb

    The greedy owners have all stars among them too. Sh*t getting worse by the minute.

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com Dutch Rich

    Season’s dead, everyone loses. Fu*k it I’m going bowling…………….

  • Wray

    I’m sadly coming to terms with the fact that we’re not getting a season. David Stern, Paul Allen, Dan Gilbert, Robert Sarver, Michael Heisley, Ted Leonsis, Mikhail Prokhorov, and ESPECIALLY Michael Jordan can all kiss my ass.

  • DRU

    Call their bluff and tell the owners to eat a D….

  • http://fivemag.de Speedy

    That’s how NBA owners negotiate.
    If your last offer wasn’t good enough you make another offer that is even worse.
    This is nonsense.

  • bike

    Is it safe to say that the players and owners have a somewhat toxic relationship?

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    This is how negotiations end up when you have no leverage. Since the season is as good as dead I’ve begun looking for a girlfriend: http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/m4w/2690173365.html

  • @Deknowz

    ne·go·ti·a·tion
       [ni-goh-shee-ey-shuhn, -see-] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    mutual discussion and arrangement of the terms of a transaction or agreement: the negotiation of a treaty.
    2.
    the act or process of negotiating.
    3.
    an instance or the result of negotiating.

    Only one side seems to be “negotiating”, the other is just making threats.

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    With Thanksgiving just around the corner the owners wanted to truly embrace the spirit of the holiday by negotiating like the Pilgrims did with the Natives

  • Heals

    Agree with most of waht’s been said above. The NFL talks never got this contentious (rightfully so cause of the revenue difference). I’ve just got to believe that this ego push/lack of respect/competitive challenge is going to make things real nasty between many players and owners/franchises (not necessarily the teams they play for). Call me naive but I don’t think getting back to games and finally getting paid is going to quell the players’ tension and enmity towards Stern and Ownership. On the other side, I’m sure Fish and Hunter are going to be in many players’ theoretical crosshairs too…

  • http://t.co/ulnwjShF Allenp

    CoolWhip FTW

  • http://t.co/ulnwjShF Allenp

    The NFL talks weren’t so contentious because they were only arguing over money.
    The NFL system is much worse than the NBA’s with a hard cap, franchise player guidelines and non-guaranteed contracts.
    NBPA and NBA are arguing over money and the system.

  • T-Money

    i really don’t care about the lockout right now. if there’s no nba after the superbowl, i’ll cry. and then march madness will roll around and i’ll be back to not giving a eff again lol.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    They want the NHL system. “this has been the NBA’s plan for two or three years now, to totally break the union, and that owners really want the NHL system applied to the NBA.” – Billy Hunter.

  • http://t.co/ulnwjShF Allenp

    Well I don’t watch the NFL any more and I definitely don’t support the NCAA.
    So, keep spending time with my kids since 2K12 is ridiculously frustrating.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    NBA owners are trying really hard to get the players union to agree to their crappy deal with all these threats…Must be they don’t want this thing going to court, because if it does, the court will show the owners negotiated in bad faith form the very beginning.

  • Mega

    NCAA Ball Tips off tonight!!!!!!

    Its ALLLLLL good

  • russell

    Tired of the NBA Lockout? Do something about it!
    NBA Fanout: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/nba-fanout/

    The NBA owners and players have decided it is more important to posture and fight over percentage points of the already billions of dollars they are earning (from US, the fans by the way) each NBA season. During the negotiating, the losing of games, the back and forth over revenue sharing, and the cancelling of games, is either side really considering the fans in all of this? In all sports, owners and players are only worried about the money. So why don’t we remind them where they get it from? The NBA owners want a lockout? I’m calling for a FANOUT. We the fans need to step up and make sure they know who makes it possible.
    I am asking all NBA fans to “ballcott” the NBA this upcoming season if they ever even get it together enough to have games. It’s simple. I’m not asking anyone to stop rooting for their team. I’m not even asking you not to watch games. Just for one season, we can take action.
    For the 2011-2012 season don’t do 2 things:
    1. Don’t go to any NBA games.
    2. Don’t buy any NBA merchandise. No jerseys, hats, stickers, cups, NBA TV packages. Nothing.

    If we do these 2 things the league will have to take notice, and think twice next time they want to cancel our favorite game. How much revenue would they even have to share with each other if we do this?
    I’m encouraging people to do this, just for one season. Why should we let them have all the power? Sign this petition if you agree with me and you are willing to sacrifice just a little bit this one season (and it will save you some money). Let’s show some union solidarity of our own NBA fans. Ballcott the NBA and show them who this is really all about.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    CoolWhip FTW.

  • blakos

    @Allen, I hope you spend time with your kids regardless man. 2k12 is frustrating i know.

  • Justin

    CoolWhip FTW is right. Absolutely hilarious!

  • http://myspace.com/gametimeweezy Gametimeweezy

    @russell I’m cosigning that premise and signing that petition bro. The owners are taking the fans for granted BIGTIME…

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    How can the BRI % get cut from 57% back to 51% without there being non-grandfathered salaries? This doesn’t make sense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    COOLWHIP’S CRAIGSLIST AD IS BEYOND CLASSIC!!!! MUST BE FAIR, BUT NOT ‘STERN’. NOT A HUNTER OR FISHER. GREATNESS THERE!!!

  • Mia Hart

    Honestly, I think 50% is just fine. However, if I was on the other side of the cut back I too would be rather upset.

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