Chris Paul-to-Lakers Trade Hits Snag, Won’t Go Through

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• bashmo Posted: Dec.8 at 9:17 pm
  THE MAN IS DESTINED TO BE A HORNET..BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE

• Sam J Posted: Dec.8 at 9:17 pm
  Hey NBA: you’re a joke. On pretty much every level.

• jsmallz Posted: Dec.8 at 9:19 pm
  come on you dont want to let a team destroy themselves…let it happn so the lakers can know that Super team are nice to dream about not have…This is why we have the freaking ALL STAR game

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.8 at 9:19 pm
  HOTMUTHAF*CKIND*MNIT JUST LET THE F*CKIN TRADE GO THROUGH!!

• Just Sayin Posted: Dec.8 at 9:20 pm
  This is a good thing for the Lakers. Now they can activley pursue Dwight Howard instead of another high scoring guard who would defintley be an upgrade to Fisher but a 5 that can CONTRIBUTE is what the Lakers need right now.

• OTB Posted: Dec.8 at 9:20 pm
  So, every other player is okay to be traded, but not the player that is owned by the NBA? Seriously, the Hornets will lose him for ZERO return if they block every trade except to crappy teams. WTF.

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 9:22 pm
  F*ck! As Chad Ochocinco would say, my level of pisstivity is at an all time high! WTF just happened??

• Marco Posted: Dec.8 at 9:22 pm
  am I the only laker fan that is happy? Bynum+Odom for Paul is ok with me, but not Odom and Pau

• DOE Posted: Dec.8 at 9:23 pm
  you got to be kidding right?

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.8 at 9:24 pm
  …Maaaaaaaan, this some ‘ole bullsh*t!

• UNFORGETTABLE Posted: Dec.8 at 9:25 pm
  So if the Lakers can’t have Chris Paul no one else can? Owners just mad cause Lakes got deal done first.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 9:26 pm
  David Stalin lays the hammer down!

• davidR Posted: Dec.8 at 9:26 pm
  is the league (are the owners) allowed to veto trades? i don’t think i’ve ever heard of that happening before

• OTB Posted: Dec.8 at 9:27 pm
  I’m not even mad that the trade didn’t go through – I like Pau. I’m mad that the trades of one team are dictated by 28 other unhappy owners, and vetoed by the Commish for no reasons other than because other owners don’t like it. That makes ZERO sense, and makes the NBA look like the most clownish sports league in North America. This is effin embarrassing. I respect Stern but this makes him look so, so, so weak.

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 9:27 pm
  these f*cking owners never cease to piss me off. There’s nothing illegal on this trade why are they vetoing it??

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 9:27 pm
  stupid

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 9:28 pm
  and dumb, too

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 9:28 pm
  like me, JTaylor21

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.8 at 9:29 pm
  WTH? All the Owners scared of LAL? C’mon now. The Hornets were getting something pretty good in return it isn’t like they were completely screwed over.

• Brahsef Posted: Dec.8 at 9:32 pm
  Isn’t this some form of collusion? This just seems like it can’t be allowed

• UNFORGETTABLE Posted: Dec.8 at 9:33 pm
  So if the Lakers can’t have Chris Paul no one can? Owners just mad because Lakes got deal done first.

• Allenp Posted: Dec.8 at 9:34 pm
  That was the best deal the hornets were offered. This is garbage.

• shutup Posted: Dec.8 at 9:35 pm
  wow this made my day this season is gonna be fun to watch LA crash and burn

• LaKid Posted: Dec.8 at 9:36 pm
  That is ridiculous and makes the NBA look stupid as hell. “Not in the best interests of the league”? Thats pathetic.

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.8 at 9:37 pm
  Wow this is bullsh*t

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.8 at 9:38 pm
  HOW the f*ck can a trade be vetoed by the LEAGUE when it breaks no rules??

• shutup Posted: Dec.8 at 9:41 pm
  because the hornets are owned by the league and the owners get to vote, gotta love democracy (oer whatever that system is called)

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.8 at 9:42 pm
  Chris Broussard is saying that the trade was most likely vetoed due to the fact LAL was gonna give up both stellar PFs without getting any big men back. Maybe we could do a sign-and-trade to get David West??? IDK, I’m just typing as I listen.

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 9:42 pm
  This is outrageous, so unfair, CP3 must be mad as f*ck

• PP Posted: Dec.8 at 9:46 pm
  CELTICS?

• unf*ckwitable Posted: Dec.8 at 9:48 pm
  ummm what the f*ck?

• CoolWhip Posted: Dec.8 at 9:48 pm
  Trade hits “snag”.
  Snag: see Stern

• davidR Posted: Dec.8 at 9:49 pm
  nah, seriously though, has there ever been a league/owner wide veto for a trade before? i’m really curious

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 9:49 pm
  The Union should fight this.

• CoolWhip Posted: Dec.8 at 9:50 pm
  David Stern issues statement to media “CP3, tell me how my a** tastes!”

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 9:51 pm
  So they want CP3 to play for small market teams only?? what’s this? what’s wrong with giving up both stellar PFs??? That’s LA’s problem. So the Hornets will have to let CP3 go next year with nothing in return??

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.8 at 9:57 pm
  I’m starting to think it has less to do with the owners favoring New Orleans–and more to do with them favoring the Lakers. Maybe they don’t think the Lakers are getting better with this trade, and since the Lakers are the NBA’s biggest pet and cash cow…
  F*CK David Stern.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.8 at 9:58 pm
  They did, after all, work really hard to bring Gasol to LA in the first place. SMH.

• PP Posted: Dec.8 at 9:59 pm
  THE CELTICS TRADE STILL ON THE TABLE

• The Black Rick Kamla Posted: Dec.8 at 9:59 pm
  I….I’m kind’ve at a loss….something just didn’t feel right in my basketball senses (lol) about this trade to begin with…but to be shot down by the Association….wow….just….wow….mannnnnnnnnn

• T-Money Posted: Dec.8 at 9:59 pm
  bush league. the nba just got itself in a big, big mess. the nba owning a team was a very bad idea to begin with. cp3 and/or the lakers would have legal ground to sue the nba if it approves another cp3 trade this year. what a mess.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.8 at 10:03 pm
  nvm, just read the article (lol, sorry), and yeah, the other teams are being f*cking cry babies about it.

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 10:04 pm
  what’s “basketball reasons” anyway??

• RobbieJay Posted: Dec.8 at 10:07 pm
  they woulda traded him, but the way the nba is set up, the owners would complain about the players then to stern,it wouldnt go through. lmao

• niQ Posted: Dec.8 at 10:12 pm
  Well.. they never signed anything…

• The Seed Posted: Dec.8 at 10:13 pm
  The Hornets actually get some good pieces back, they can use to trade for other players. Also Houston finally gets a big man since Ming and Lakers get a great point guard. If this trade is allowed, then the Lakers can trade Bynum and some 1st round picks for Howard. If Stern holds up this trade, he will cost Hornets a solid future. Either Hornets lose Paul for nothing or get some good players in return. BOOK IT!!!

• The Seed Posted: Dec.8 at 10:15 pm
  The Hornets actually get some good pieces back, they can use to trade for other players. Also Houston finally gets a big man since Ming and Lakers get a great point guard. If this trade is allowed, then the Lakers can trade Bynum and some 1st round picks for Howard. If Stern holds up this trade, he will cost Hornets a solid future. Either Hornets lose Paul for nothing or get some good players in return. BOOK IT!

• dev0 Posted: Dec.8 at 10:15 pm
  The Hornets have to be able to trade him if they want to. They’re trading him for “basketball reasons” too. If the league makes the Hornets sit on their hands and CP3 walks for nothing, this will be brutal. This was a legit trade, and not nearly as lop-sided as many we’ve seen in the past. Not a good PR move for the NBA, coming off a lockout.

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 10:17 pm
  There is no way in hell Kloe Kardashian is moving to New Orleans

• T-Money Posted: Dec.8 at 10:17 pm
  chriss broussard reports that cp3 is lawyering up.

• yada Posted: Dec.8 at 10:18 pm
  you cant redo what was aready done. the game dont go that way. chris paul should excercise every legal option he has. regardless wheather u feel like the big markets are getting the star players, whats done is done!!! you cant go back on whats done. you lose credibility

• Gametimeweezy Posted: Dec.8 at 10:20 pm
  gotta love it… ya theres no politics involved , at allll….

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 10:21 pm
  Chris Broussard: “Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal”

• Headlines Posted: Dec.8 at 10:21 pm
  http://twitpic.com/7qkrrs … Chris Paul reaction to Stern killing trade.

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.8 at 10:23 pm
  Amazing.
  So all that nonsense and rhetoric during the lockout and this is the result?
  Darth Stern pulling a palpatine and nixing a trade because a group of owners feel cheated?
  This league has some serious problems.
  Nevermind trading 2 of your 3 best frontcourt players away to get Paul. (Pau might have reverted to being soft last playoffs but LA can’t seriously think Bynum is the better player…)

• OTB Posted: Dec.8 at 10:26 pm
  “”In the end, David (Stern) didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go,” source says.”
  Chris Paul is a free agent in 8 months. What. The. F@!k.

• Mariano Posted: Dec.8 at 10:28 pm
  Why didn’t they do this when the Pau trade happened?

• OTB Posted: Dec.8 at 10:28 pm
  I know I was all for the owners doing the lockout and vehemently was against the “plant worker” comments, but THIS is really not helping the NBA’s case.

• LakersFan Posted: Dec.8 at 10:30 pm
  NBA has some serious problems, WTF man, they already had a deal, lakers already sacrificed their dynamic duo inside. but NBA cancelled the DEAL?? are you serious bro????????

• O Posted: Dec.8 at 10:30 pm
  The NBA owns the Hornets, so ultimately, even if Paul lawyers up, can anything be done? It’s not like Stern stopped another owner from trading a player. He stopped a player on a team he basically owns from being traded.

• Gee Posted: Dec.8 at 10:32 pm
  The Lakers gave up way too much to NO and Houston. Yes, the NBA stopped the trade, but I think Lakers too had some regret.

• robb Posted: Dec.8 at 10:33 pm
  But I guess it’s GREAT for the league when a player like Tyson Chandler gets a 4 year and 60 mill deal right? I’m out. Gotta drink a bottle of NyQuil.

• T-Money Posted: Dec.8 at 10:34 pm
  O: this has nothing to do with the nba owning the team, technically, because stern can veto any trades he wants, at all times, for basketball reasons. but he doesn’t. ever. what was special about this one? why is worse than what utah got for deron? what memphis got for pau? if it is because stern didn’t want another superstar to go to a big market does that mean he vetoes a dwight trade to l.a.? remember that economic reasons are not mentioned by the nba – so what would be the difference? this smells really bad.

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.8 at 10:35 pm
  Is the CBA even legit and signed yet?
  Bet CP3 wishes they hadn’t agreed to the tentative deal now…

• T-Money Posted: Dec.8 at 10:36 pm
  RealLamarOdom LAMAR ODOM
  When a team trades u and it doesn’t go down? Now what?

• The Philosopher Posted: Dec.8 at 10:36 pm
  Damn.
  Not too long ago, Jukai tried to make me look like an ass when I (YES I) was THE first to advocate Paul to the Lakers.
  Well, I guess I was not the only one to think that that was a good idea.
  But anyways…

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 10:40 pm
  good for stern, good move

• JoeMaMa Posted: Dec.8 at 10:40 pm
  This effectively means that Chris Paul cannot be traded. The Lakers could likely sue the league should that happen; I’m fairly certain that a good set of lawyers could make the NBA look like complete morons. This also brings to light the fact that the league owns a team, and is screwing them through poor management. This was a really good deal for the Hornets. But Dell Demps’ trades now must pass muster with….competing teams?

• O Posted: Dec.8 at 10:43 pm
  Word?! I didn’t know Stern could veto ANY trade cause like you said, T, he ain’t never done that. @ robb, Chandler going to the Knicks isn’t as huge as Paul going to the Lakers. Seriously. Lakers are losing two good players and another aiiight player (if that). That team would still be stacked at the end of the day. Knicks are getting a good (not great) Center and probably losing a good starting PG and reserve center in exchange. And our bench will still be suspect! But yeah, 60 mil for 4 years seems OD for an injury prone center. There goes any money we’ll have for next years free agency.

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.8 at 10:44 pm
  @T-Money, u should tweet him the following:
  ‘You pick up the phone and tell your boss, Kris Kardashian/Jenner-whatsherface where to send tge camera crew.’

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 10:45 pm
  Players should not be allowed to dictate where they want to go, good job Stern

• Nick Tha Quick Posted: Dec.8 at 10:46 pm
  Stern gives us blue balls. Again.

• Blasphemy Posted: Dec.8 at 10:50 pm
  @bnets – Excuse me, but why shouldn’t players not be allowed to to dictate where they want to play?

• Jukai Posted: Dec.8 at 10:51 pm
  Well Philo, obviously the owners agreed with me.

• sean b Posted: Dec.8 at 10:52 pm
  Why shouldn’t players dictate where they want to go? I can dictate where I work. The Hornets are going to lose him one way or another, they were better off getting going the nuggets way and getting assets than going the cavs way and getting screwed.

• Joey E. Posted: Dec.8 at 10:52 pm
  this is so unfair

• DuckTape The Mob Posted: Dec.8 at 10:52 pm
  @bnets They don’t own the NBA players so they can’t dictate them….You sounding like a real redneck B!tch right now at the end of the day CP3 don’t wanna stay with the Hornets and at the end of the season He gone……….so then what will stern Do?

• A2011 Posted: Dec.8 at 10:53 pm
  Not a smart move. What if, Chris Paul leaves next year?? Who is going to want to buy New Orleans, now or never? The reason the deal was stop because Chris Paul is going to a big market team.

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 10:53 pm
  Chris Paul now crying like a little baby “waaa waaaa waaa Im not going to training camp”

• Everynowhere Posted: Dec.8 at 10:54 pm
  the lakers would have been worse off if this trade went through. if getting dwight howard isn’t a SURE THING, then the cp3 trade is dumb.

• MikeC. Posted: Dec.8 at 10:56 pm
  Oh snap!

• Cool Dude Posted: Dec.8 at 11:01 pm
  What you guys arent seeing is that if this trade went through, the lakers would have gone 10m under the cap, letting them trade bynum away for cap relief and role players, which means they would have enough cap space to sign D12 in the summer even if the magic trade him to somewhere else.

• MikeC. Posted: Dec.8 at 11:03 pm
  @DuckTape – since the team owners and players voted collectively to a set of governing rules, one of which stipulates that players are contracted to deliver services to franchises in exchange for salaries, the league can kinda dictate where the players play. Unless those players decide to take large pay cuts in order to sign contracts to play where they desire. Part of the agreement is that players can choose to play wherever they want as free agents, however they must also accept large pay cuts. So at the end of the season, if “he gone”, then “he gone”.

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 11:09 pm
  We had a lock out for a reason, is good to see it come to fruition to not have players have much control this time around

• andy Posted: Dec.8 at 11:09 pm
  As a Lakers Fan im happy this didnt go through.
  Id much prefer moving Odom and Howard to get Dwight Hizzy!

• Heals Posted: Dec.8 at 11:11 pm
  This was the widely overlooked variable in this trade equation. I understand their gripe, but it’s short sighted. This is a pretty good deal for NO, I mean they get 3 starters for a team that needs depth desperately. They have the potential for a Nuggets type run (the whole is better than the individual parts) with the shortened season. It doesn’t matter that the trade helps LAL, other owners need to offer better deals plain and simple (if he won’t resign too bad). As for LAL though this may be a blessing in disguise cause their real prize is D12. CP3 makes them better but not scary. D12 gives them (minus Odom and Bynum) a very complimentary front court duo with a lethal scorer at the guard position…

• golakeshow Posted: Dec.8 at 11:12 pm
  What the hell is this bullcrap. Stern is a loser who smokes weed. That is the only reason I can think of.This is the stupidest thing ever. You can’t block a trade for no good reason you fu#khead. Worst commisioner in sports history. FU#K THE SMALL MARKET TEAMS AND DAVID STERN!

• Chuck-Dub Posted: Dec.8 at 11:17 pm
  No worries, Laker fans. CP3 CANNOT be traded to ANYONE this season based on this development or the NBA opens up a huge can of worms. Dwight Howard to LA by Christmas, and we get Paul (who CLEARLY wants to don the purple and gold)NEXT season without giving up ANYTHING! It’s good to be a Laker fan – always. Why? Because it’s championships or bust and Dr. Jerry Buss is the best owner in all of pro sports. And, oh yeah . . . by the way . . . Jerry’s gonna’ take this blatant attack on his franchise VERY personally. That’s bad news for everyone else.

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 11:17 pm
  So your saying get rid of all the small market teams and just have like 4 or maybe 5 teams play in the NBA, kinda sucks for the rest of the other fans who support and pay 1000s a year to watch NBA games in small market teams suck as Utah, Sacramento, GState and Oklahoma City

• bnets Posted: Dec.8 at 11:19 pm
  *such as

• golakeshow Posted: Dec.8 at 11:21 pm
  Stern is doing billy hunter

• ThaKidNoah Posted: Dec.8 at 11:25 pm
  In other news Lakers and Hornets training camps start tmrw expect a lot of awkwardness

• golakeshow Posted: Dec.8 at 11:27 pm
  This is a bush league. Stern is a horrible person and commisioner. If I was in a room with david stern, Osama bin laden, and hitler with a gun with two bullets I would shoot stern twice. What a fu#ktard.

• z man Posted: Dec.8 at 11:27 pm
  Regardless of your feelings about the trade, this is B.S., the NBA promised autonomy when they took over the Hornets. This is a conflict of interest. They should keep their hands and big mouths (a certain Dallas owner) out of the business of others. Paul should lawyer up and sue the hell out of the NBA.

• O Posted: Dec.8 at 11:33 pm
  I know Laker fans are TIIIIIIGHT, but come on, man. The Lakers are the team that have come off HOW many times in trades? Y’all used to trading cassette players for MP3 players and no one stoppin’ y’all. Seriously, Y’all won how many championships in the last decade? Laker fans are worst than Yankee fans (i’m a Yankee fan btw). Even without Paul y’all still got a SQUAD! Y’all just need a younger PG.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.8 at 11:36 pm
  The worst part about it is, the Hornets get a GOOD deal here. F*ck Mark Cuban for being a punk too.

• O Posted: Dec.8 at 11:36 pm
  Now Laker fans know how Sacramento fans felt in the 2002 playoffs. LMFAO!!!! Nah, Laker fans won’t ever know that feeling…

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.8 at 11:53 pm
  Regardless of how everyone feels about the NBA butting in, we have to remember one thing; the NBA currently owns the Hornets. So if a deal involving the Hornets happens right now, apparently it can be vetoed. Adjust your lives accordingly.

• shutup Posted: Dec.8 at 11:57 pm
  I always said i thought that Gasol deal should have been investigated, Jerry West is a shifty mofo, everyone knows he still has ties to the Lakers, probably got a hefty sum, under the table

• Tae Posted: Dec.8 at 11:58 pm
  Im glad it wont happen, giving up Gasol and Odom would’ve been a big mistake

• golakeshow Posted: Dec.9 at 12:00 am
  Stern is a dickhead who should be fired and have his home taken away

• JoeMaMa Posted: Dec.9 at 12:02 am
  The biggest winner from the proposed deal with New Orleans. Then LA, and Houston. NO got 3 high quality players for 1 superstar that they couldn’t have kept anyway. LA gave up alot, and got alot back. Houston got one of the best bigs in the league. Really, all 3 teams could’ve conceivably ‘won’ on this deal. The fact that David Stern wilted to angry owners is bad. But what’s worse is that he nixed this trade because he didn’t like that Chris Paul was ‘determining’ his course of events. He’s a bumbling, fumbling, Deus Ex Machina. He decided to prove a point at the expense of 3 teams, and the competitive balance of the league. Pitiful.

• Heals Posted: Dec.9 at 12:03 am
  Yeah Dub I see D12 or CP3 signing there for the mid-level while the other gets the vets minimum…

• S-Mills Posted: Dec.9 at 12:06 am
  @JTaylor21 Yes the NBA has the right to veto the trade the question is if it’s really ethical. For them to favor the well being of the league over the well being of the New Orleans Hornets is an abuse of their rights as owners of the team. New Orleans fans should be in an uproar if we take this to mean CP3 signs elsewhere when his contract is up and leaves the Hornets with nothing to show next season, when they could be getting gasol and odom today.

• S-Mills Posted: Dec.9 at 12:09 am
  And yeah it just hit me hard. Why in the name of all things basketball does Mark Cuban’s opinion have an effect on a trade between the hornets, lakers and rockets? That is absolute trash David Stern, absolute trash.

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.9 at 12:12 am
  I never said I agreed with their decision (It’s shady and sets a bad precedent) but what can CP and a band of lawyers really do? The League is basically the equivalent of what Mickey Arison is to the Heat or what Buss is to the Lakers, a owner. Those guys can nix or veto any deal if they want, so the L has every right to do the same even though it’s in bad taste.

• stevie jenkins Posted: Dec.9 at 12:13 am
  This is some motherf*ucking bull*hit right here. Unbelieveable.

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 12:19 am
  Anyone saying that LA wouldnt of benefited the most from this deal is full of bs, Paul is the only guaranteed allstar in the bunch, its obvious that something fishy happened behind the scenes that were not privy too thats why Stern stopped this bs

• bobbyD Posted: Dec.9 at 12:26 am
  How much does Paul stand to lose dollar wise if he walks as a free agent next year? Seems like he can’t be traded this season after this debacle. So is Stern trying to shaft Paul out of dollars whilst trying to keep him on board to increase the value of the Hornets?

• Maniac Posted: Dec.9 at 12:27 am
  Just to clear things up… The owners didn’t veto, they can’t. They strongly urged Stern to stop the trade so he did. If Stern ignored them, CP3 would be a Laker, but I guess he doesn’t want to “disturb the peace”.

• Maniac Posted: Dec.9 at 12:28 am
  ^shutup please

• hiphopcop Posted: Dec.9 at 12:30 am
  Probably Stern got wind of the D. Howard trade coming next and said HECK NO!!!!!!!!!

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.9 at 12:30 am
  Yeah, Gasol sure played like a scrub all through last season when he was arguably the best Laker player most of it (Mavs series being the exception) and in the Euros this summer.
  Noooo chance at still being an allstar. (now that’s some uninformed BS right there)

• Dx Posted: Dec.9 at 12:32 am
  Haha… Whats the point if free agency then? When the mba can stop trades? Doesnt make sense… So how do u determine which trades are fair and which trades are unfair? Looks like the hornets are losing out…

• golakeshow Posted: Dec.9 at 12:39 am
  I am just so angry. If that fatass commisioner shows his face in LA, New Orleans, or houston he’s in trouble. All the players will be bitter about this whole thing. He just screwed all the players. I just wanna rip stern’s face off, shove it between two slices of bread, crap on it, and throw it into the garbage where it belongs. And since when does what mark cuban think matter in this scenario. The Nhl is a better run league than this and they have four conferences.

• bnets Posted: Dec.9 at 1:09 am
  “Nets have emerged as No. 1 choice for Dwight Howard, multiple sources say. D12 is expected to ask Magic to trade him to NJ.”

• O Posted: Dec.9 at 1:13 am
  Dan Gilbert strikes again!!!! http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

• bnets Posted: Dec.9 at 1:14 am
  http://www.dwightbound.com/

• Bug Posted: Dec.9 at 1:16 am
  Just here to show my support for Dell Demps.

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 1:47 am
  @darksaber your obv a laker fan who is butt hurt by this, but im glad stern dropped the hammer on this bs trade, like dan gilbert said how can you get the best player and free up 40mil? they tried to pull some bs right there. and there is no one else that consider Gasol the best Laker at any point. but nice try

• O Posted: Dec.9 at 1:49 am
  Dwight just informed the Magic he wants to be traded to… the BROOKLYN NETS!!!! NY let’s GO!!!!

• O Posted: Dec.9 at 1:55 am
  Part of me feels that MAYBE Dwight DID want to go to the Knicks, but once he saw they signed Chandler he decided to go with the Nets. Just a theory though…

• Sergio Posted: Dec.9 at 2:15 am
  I didn’t want this too happen as much as anyone. But the league stepping in, in the fashion they did, with the explanation they did is complete and utter shady bullsh*t.

• nbk Posted: Dec.9 at 2:16 am
  ^ that was me.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.9 at 2:33 am
  Co-sign Joe… The thing is, Paul didn’t even say he wanted to be in LA. He chose New York. All he did was make it clear that he didn’t want to play for New Orleans. What is New Orleans supposed to do, then? Lose him for nothing at the end of the summer so the NBA can prove a point–while really not proving a point, because *their* team suffers?
  What a stupid, rash, irrational decision on all fronts. Darth Stern is such a bag of douche right now.

• Yesse Posted: Dec.9 at 2:44 am
  OTB has a great point!

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.9 at 2:45 am
  *sigh* Wouldn’t expect some cat whose bball related memory doesn’t even reach back a year but comes in here to insult commenters to know anything about which players or team i support.
  Especially if this is the same fool whose handle used to be another insult to another commenter, Allenp.
  No matter what YOU think you know, your earlier comment was so off, i’m not surprised u tried to hide behind more insults to try and save face. Let me, a Laker disliker if there ever was one, refresh your limited memory.
  Fact: Gasol was playing like the teams MVP during the Lakers last title win during the entire playoffs. Game winners, holding his own against the Celtics frontcourt, you name it, he had it. A few knowledgeable people here even noted they felt he deserved Finals mvp over KB. And during the 1st half of the ’10/11 regular season, when, reports were rampant about the Lakers playing much better ball with the offense going through him instead of ballhog-self nicknamer (who was out for a bit, or hobbled for the rest of it), u must have been engrossed in some video game or other.
  And he’s been an allstar ever since he joined LA and even before that as a Grizzly. But by all means, attack me for pointing out your mistakes in your earlier statement (a transparent tactic if i ever saw one), since i guess u are THE ONLY PERSON on a bball website who knows a thing or two about the NBA.
  FYI: u just got plastered twice by someone who detests Kobe, the Lakers etc but still can acknowledge facts. Pau is one of the best players on the planet, to claim otherwise just shows ignorance. CP3 is NOT the only perennial allstar in the proposed trade.
  Feel free to fling your insults and name calling anyway, done ‘reasoning’ with you, got a practice to prepare.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.9 at 3:01 am
  @ shutup: The Hornets were willing to make the trade. Preventing the Hornets from making a trade that would benefit them in the long run, just because if pisses you off that the Lakers benefit too, makes no sense whatsoever. Think about it. Should the Lakers make trades that only benefit the other team, then? I guess so, according to you. Why not trade the entire Lakers roster for the New Orleans roster? I mean, that would please you, wouldn’t it?

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.9 at 3:02 am
  The Lakers benefit but they also risk a lot with this trade. They give up two of their best bigs, and aren’t even guaranteed that Chris Paul will re-sign in the summer. So they risk losing pretty much everything.

• EMF Posted: Dec.9 at 3:09 am
  I see ignorance in thinking Pau Gasol is one of the best big men in the game of basketball. If he has demonstrated anything clearly it is that he is weak, pushed around and ridiculed by other players, and most nights simply mails in his effort. I will give him one thing, I’ve never seen a player with better stats night in and night out who is so ineffectual in clutch moments, a closer he is not and apparently never will be! Now Lamar is a different story, there is a guy who plays great and then plays like he is on Mars, however I think marriage has been good for him, this past year and a half he has shown some good consistency. Gasol and Peace for Chris Paul would have been a gift from above! But child please, if Gasol has any trade value with that contract of his, the Lakers need to dump him. Listen to him, he has no clue how weak he plays and how lazy he is. I say, bring back Kareem to coach Gasol, the dude needs a few big-man camps under his belt before I will want him back!

• nbk Posted: Dec.9 at 3:10 am
  Not worth entertaining that dood fellas.

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 3:12 am
  Long ass reply to cover your bias, he was an allstar once before joining the lakers but the other vote ins were directly related to him being a laker, despite other pf who were more deserving. Millsap, Aldridge, West, behind duncan and Dirk. your right. and his allstar appearances have come to an end if hes traded out of LA. As for finals mvp, i doubt anyone with any idea of what the nba would ever say that. and isnt the act of complaining that a team is being cheated a form of support so by defacto you are a Laker supporter.

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 3:24 am
  not saying the lakers shouldnt benefit, but the deal was very onesided leaving LA with more positives than negatives, not saying they shouldnt seek the best possible deal but the league has to approve it, and just because the GM oks something usually GM’s gotta ok it also the NBA are the owners of the team and as a collective they didnt think it was a fair deal. when the Hornets become a privately owned team again I doubt the commissioner will interfere, despite what other team owners have to say.
  @nbk i said a prayer for you

• Justin Posted: Dec.9 at 3:26 am
  Yes, the NHL is a better run league than this. But that’s because they have a hard cap and not stupid things like a mid level exception, a Larry Bird exception, and all of this other ridiculous things the players have to make a ton of money and give them monster egos. To answer your question bobbyd, I believe Paul stands to lose $30M if he walks via free agency. That reason alone could be enough for him to lawyer up and try to force this deal through. I’ve been on the owners side the entire time and don’t want to see 80% of the games end up in blowouts because of the way these idiot players think but this is not going to end well for Stern and the NBA. What teams can you trade him to that are good “basketball reasons”? You better believe Jerry Buss will be watching that situation very closely if he doesn’t end up with Paul in the end

• JTaylor21 Posted: Dec.9 at 3:32 am
  Who watches the NHL?

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 3:34 am
  This is just an anomaly because the league owns the Hornets, if it was a private entity this would not have happen, ex. look at LA’s last deal with Memphis which was very lopsided and shady (im looking at you Jerry West) despite what people say about Marc Gasol he was an unknown quantity and Pau as it has been clearley pointed out previously was an allstar and ROY, and they got him for next to nothing

• BlackPhantom Posted: Dec.9 at 3:36 am
  NHL????

• GP23 Posted: Dec.9 at 4:03 am
  I did say this trade would NOT happen earlier in the previous post. Smh…..

• neaorin Posted: Dec.9 at 4:13 am
  Dan Gilbert is right – LA getting Paul is one thing but they also save a TON of money AND give up no draft picks or young prospects. Instead they give up two players on the wrong side of 30 making mucho dinero. At least when they got Pau from the Grizzlies, they took on Kwame’s salary and gave up Marc Gasol.

• BBaller Posted: Dec.9 at 4:31 am
  I really think this proposed trade was good for all 3 teams, Houston gets a bigman, K.Martin and Scola are no scrubs so NO gets a decent return and LA give up 2 solid players. Seemed pretty decent and fair, why is Cuban the most vocal? He’s been spending way over the cap for years.CP3 to L.A doesn’t guarantee anything.If Miami can do why can’t other teams do it?

• BBaller Posted: Dec.9 at 4:33 am
  No I’m certainly not a Lakers fan.

• anthony y Posted: Dec.9 at 4:34 am
  The fact is the second cp3 is traded to another team the lakers are gonna sue the league too fast. There was no reason to stop the trade other than the fact that its the lakers. I’m a Celtic till I die, but he has no good reason (stern) to kill this trade. La gave up there front court to get him, and no was getting the best deal they were gonna see all season most likely. Its a shame stern can allow himself to be so hell-bent on dictating to players where their going to play that he is willing to throw the “competitive balance” rational to the wind.

• jumpman22 Posted: Dec.9 at 4:42 am
  I’m huge Jordan fan, that leads naturally and logically to a Kobe hater. But I feel really sorry for Kobe this time. He is the guy hurt most here, this might be the last chance for him to get a shot for the title. It’s just a game for owners and NBA, maybe not even us, but it’s the players who is losing. Sad.

• Jukai Posted: Dec.9 at 4:50 am
  LOL at the NHL comment. Embarrassing.

• 1vey2ink Posted: Dec.9 at 4:52 am
  don’t hate on the fact the lakers manage to set up a great deal, be smart what you have. Trade away older players who cost a lot of money to return one player that will save you money. how can you hate on they didn’t give up draft picks? Is that illegal this days? don’t think so.. your trying to say they don’t give up as much as they did with Pau trade with grizzlies. Giving up Pau and Lamar isn’t enough value?? That arguably the best PF in the NBA and the Sixth Man Award Winner! The lakers were smart and getting younger is definitely the plan for lakers. I’ll say as soon the hornets are sold to a real owner (not stern who only cares about bussiness and not about basketball, he killed the deal because he can’t sell hornets without Paul on the team) make the deal happen! They agreed on it make it happen when stern has no right to call veto on it!

• AiRsMiTh Posted: Dec.9 at 4:52 am
  LOLOLOLOLOLOL THIS IS ALL SO RIDICULOUS

• Darksaber Posted: Dec.9 at 5:07 am
  @nbk: i see what you mean. Apart from insulting, the peabrain also has next to no reading comprehension. Waste of my time.
  Signed, the defacto Laker supporter (who btw wrote nothing on anyone getting cheated here cause i dont care for all 3 teams much. But hey, deflection and lying is also a way to argue. If you’re on tge playground)

• Michelle Posted: Dec.9 at 5:19 am
  GASOL AND ODOM FOR CHRIS PAUL is not really that great for the Lakers. Who the hell are they going to play next to Bynum and what happens if Bynum gets injured again? They would be screwed!

• gubbins Posted: Dec.9 at 6:18 am
  This is ridiculous. Another reason we had a 5 month lockout was because the owners have far too much power over the players. If everyone is happy with the trade why should a bunch of other owners with their arses in their hands put the brakes on it. If I was a Hornets fan I’d be happier with Scola, Odom & Martin rather than wait & potentially get nothing. At which point will the owners & Lord Stern deem it ok to trade Paul if he has no intention of re-signing in NOLA?? Clowns.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Dec.9 at 6:47 am
  That’s exactly right, Justin. The NHL is better run because it generates far less interest and revenue than the NBA, and of course, because it pays its players less. That’s definitely the standard for a well-run business–how little it can pay its employees. I mean, it’s not like the two are related. Nope, it’s the rules. Just the rules–’cause it’s such a well run league, right?
  Tell me you were being sarcastic. Please.

• shutup Posted: Dec.9 at 7:03 am
  the only reason the nhl would be considered a better league is because they can fight, that fake tough guy sh!t dont fly, F a 5 game suspension, someone is coming to take your head off

• Art Vandelay Posted: Dec.9 at 7:42 am
  The Lakers should thank God every day for the fact that David Stern prevented them from what would have been one of the worst trades in the franchise’s history.

• Monkeyfntstc Posted: Dec.9 at 8:14 am
  IT WAS FISHER!! DOESN’T WANT TO LOOSE HES STRATING POINT GUARD SPOT!!

• AD Posted: Dec.9 at 8:18 am
  kobe only has about 3 good years left this trade is stupid….

• Monkeyfntstc Posted: Dec.9 at 8:31 am
  NBA ready to troll: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/864/troll.jpg/

• Wayno Posted: Dec.9 at 8:37 am
  Can someone please explain to me how this trade helps the Lakers? Unless Dwight Howard will be coming there to, trading one of the best big men in the league, and a VERY good SF for another gaurd who needs the ball in his hands all the time just doesn’t seem to make sense.

• PapaDuck Posted: Dec.9 at 8:54 am
  Well the letter that the Cavs owner wrote point to the fact that the Lakers will save 40 million over the next 3 years. That is alot of money for a team being taxed. People are crazy to think that the Lakers would not have found a way to strengthen their team between now and the start of next season. Even if they do not get Howard. They have 40 million to offer a good player in 2012 free agent class. Or they can give Howard that extra 40 million that they save by moving Gasol/Odom. Or they could give Orlando that 40 million in a sign and trade for Orlando. The Lakers money is LONG. This one trade does not make them better, but it give future free agents a brighter view of their team. A lot of young players have respect for Kobe so they would not mind playing along side him toward the end of his career. I think its a good futuristic move by the Lakers even if it weakens them in the near future. The Lakers won’t be able to win with their roster in three years, not with all these other teams getting younger and stronger

• Justin Posted: Dec.9 at 9:07 am
  Teddy, not too shockingly you’re basing your opinion on American interest. You’ll find that up here in Canada not a whole lot of people give a rat’s ass about NBA basketball. Yes there are less revenue dollars to go around but and yes hockey players get paid less, but like I said it’s because they have a hard cap. The NBA guys didn’t want that because they would have to (God forbid) get paid $7M or $8M instead. Oh the horror! The NHL has parity in their league too. You don’t see Alexander Ovechkin moaning because he wants to play with Sidney Crosby, maybe call up Steven Stamkos and Johnathan Toews to try and make some super team. And you know why? Because they aren’t spoiled biotches like they are in the NBA.

• The Philosopher Posted: Dec.9 at 11:23 am
  Well Jukai, the mentality that you and apparently the owners share agitates us lowly fans.
  Also, my main point back then was that Paul to the Lakers looked good. Other people thought it looked good, too.
  Yes, more powerful people think otherwise, but again, the lowly gentiles are agitated.
  Guess it does not matter, right?

• Dub Posted: Dec.14 at 1:28 pm
  Why is the NHL comment embarrassing? Cuz all you idiots know that it’s true? It is a better run league and there is actually a lot of people that watch NHL, especially the east coast. Obviously no one in California doesn’t care about it, but that doesn’t mean everyone.