Dwight Howard: Orlando Magic Need to ‘Change’

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• Wayno Posted: Jan.27 at 9:39 am
  Ugh, I’m really sick of his crying…just play for goodness sake.

• mike Posted: Jan.27 at 9:51 am
  dwight cries too much, anyone who watched this game will know the magic were thoroghly outplaying the celtics when dwight was on the bench.

• pnightmare Posted: Jan.27 at 10:14 am
  the only one that needs to change is himself … crybaby, again bi**ing to the refs

• ENDS Posted: Jan.27 at 10:15 am
  I’m probably the longest tenured magic fan around here and ill be the first to say yesterday night made me sick . I have resolved not to give a damn if Dwight leaves or stays.

• K.Holiday Posted: Jan.27 at 10:18 am
  Translation : TRADE ME!

• Uniforms Posted: Jan.27 at 10:31 am
  Although we can’t coddle him he makes a pretty good point. The Magic do need to change to get back to the finals. Basketball is about teamwork though and it can’t really be good for moral when the star is saying the players around him aren’t good enough.

• christianbullen Posted: Jan.27 at 10:49 am
  translation from a magic fan: TRADE THAT MOTHAFLUCKA!

• vtrobot Posted: Jan.27 at 10:54 am
  First change that team should make is their f*cking diapers.

• GP23 Posted: Jan.27 at 10:58 am
  Dwight has probably already packed his bags and bought a pre-flight ticket to get the hell out of Orlando as soon as possible.

• SCOTTY D Posted: Jan.27 at 11:25 am
  yeah dwight is kind of a bum and i definitely think his ego has gone through the roof. I read this article about how much he’s been whining lately and why the magic should let him go and hope he never comes back. Kinda funny. Check it out.
  http://theheroesandvillains.com/handv/H_%26_V_-_Dwight_Howard_Should_Just_Nut_Up.html

• AD Posted: Jan.27 at 11:36 am
  soooo yall mad at dwight for wanting to leave a team full of 3point shooters that can’t play d…. oooooooooo

• Max Posted: Jan.27 at 11:42 am
  F all the Dwight haters

• TBEASTIN Posted: Jan.27 at 11:43 am
  this guy huh? always crying about something or another. i’m positive he sits at home on the toilet in that thinking pose…crying. crying about how his addias armsleeve things look corny. crying about how no one wants to run an offense through him cos he doesn’t have any adequate moves other than dunking and a weird spin jump hook. crying cos the refs told him his design scheme in his house was retarded. always crying about something. STOP CRYING.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 11:47 am
  I dont know any team that Dwight is gonna go to and get the ball dumped down to him, his post game is uhhmmm inconsistent, to say the least. He only had 16 points what is he complaining about? Take the game over with your actions not by crying about it afterwards.

• T-Ray Posted: Jan.27 at 11:50 am
  I’m kind of torn at this point. I admit I’ve talked ish about him crying and all but after watching last night I’d be upset too. I mean you can demand the ball all you want as a big man but if your whole team is made up of slashers and three point shooters then your chances of getting a lot of touches in the post are slim.

• Max Posted: Jan.27 at 11:55 am
  ^The Magic having slashers is something new toome lol

• T-Ray Posted: Jan.27 at 12:05 pm
  Well Hedo and J Rich slash to the basket from the wings and even Reddick does every now and then.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 12:06 pm
  Y’all definition of crying is broken.

• AD Posted: Jan.27 at 12:09 pm
  ^^ @nbk cosign they act like dwight wants to talk to the media……. aND IF DWIGHT CRIES, hes not the only one to do it…. every player in the lg complains but it shows that you care…..

• Kilo Posted: Jan.27 at 12:18 pm
  Maybe if you would have stayed out of foul trouble last night, the Magic would have won. Just Saying.

• Ldub Posted: Jan.27 at 12:40 pm
  Dwights gripes and complaints are valid IMO. You come to a franchise, you are the face, the all star etc and you want to win. You see teams all around you making moves to improve their chances. Miami, Chi, Bos, LA (clips), NY, etc. But who has Dwight played along side of that is considered a star? Hedont? Nelson? VC? All these dudes put up decent #’s but they are hardly considered all stars. At the end of the day, you want what is best, or should want what is best, for your team to win. If you dont feel like the organization is doing that, then why stay? Kobe got the help, Wade got the help, Pierce got the help, Dirk got the help. Yes the constant emotional roller coaster turns alot of people off, but Dwight is young and clearing has not learned how to ask for something without being perceived as a “lil @$$ girl for complaining about every little thing.”

• LP Posted: Jan.27 at 12:56 pm
  dirk didnt get help, homie…..

• JTaylor21 Posted: Jan.27 at 12:58 pm
  Every player (especially stars) does some sort of complaining and b*tching to the refs on damn near every possession.

• T-Ray Posted: Jan.27 at 12:58 pm
  Blake Griffin is probably the most emphamis..

• Caboose Posted: Jan.27 at 1:06 pm
  Dwight did NOTHING to help the Magic last night. How can he even call it his team? He’s no leader. I’ve been a fan of Dwight since he was in high school but it’s just pathetic seeing how he fails to take any responsibility for anything. What do you want, Dwight? Kobe to go and score it all for you? Deron to just throw you alley-oops? It’s the NBA, nothing comes easy. So quit whining and demand a trade already. Cause as a Magic fan, I’ll say it now, we don’t need you. Go whine somewhere else.

• GC6 Posted: Jan.27 at 1:09 pm
  We were doing well until Dwight Howard came back on the court then suddenly we sucked when he came on first we need to get rid of him and Glen Davis then we need to learn how to use the fake effectively like they did in the 1st half the way they get chased off the 3 point line one fake and the defender is in the crowd.

• GC6 Posted: Jan.27 at 1:18 pm
  Cosign Caboose too
  I used to be a massive fan when he came on the court all the team did is dump it in the post and he couldn’t even take Chris Wilcox the only person he could beat was a rookie he has lost his dominance,Leadership and work ethic (in the games) since last year before this year I would have said underrated now I say overrated I preffered him when he was joking all the time (at least he would play hard) and trade him while he has some value as a Orlando fan
  Also while im at it get rid of Davis the amount of shots he misses a game hurts us

• Ldub Posted: Jan.27 at 1:28 pm
  @LP Dirk got Chandler, Kidd, Terry, Butler. Not saying they all signed one year and boom it happened. My point is DH never had any help and everyone else has! He has had inconsistnt players around him.

• Chris Posted: Jan.27 at 1:37 pm
  Dwight has or had, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Vince Carter, Hedo, Jameer Nelson, Marcin Gortat, Mikel Pietrus…I could go on and on, they are all either solid role players elsewhere or where stars at one point. How can you say they haven’t brought him help?

• FnF Posted: Jan.27 at 1:48 pm
  @Chris, please go on and on about all the help he has had. Gilbert averageg 25+ before his knees betrayed him. The Magic got him after he could only give them an ineefective 9 points a game. J-Rich is as streaky as they come for shooters. What meaningful thing has Vince done in the past 4 years? One 40-point game, your turn…. Gortat and Pietrus did help get Dwight to the Finals. They should have kept Gortat but oh well. Jameer pre-shoulder injury was ballin, after… not so much. Hedo gave Dwight 1 good year. Now Hedo and Jameer play hide n seek during every big game. Dwight needs help, but he also has to give Orlando time to get him help. They went all in and lost. Re-tool and then try it again. You can’t make the conference finals every year.

• MLK4Life Posted: Jan.27 at 2:22 pm
  People cry about dwight crying more than he actually cries. Dwight haters are funny. I’d be salty too if my best teammate throughtout my career was jameer nelson.

• yada Posted: Jan.27 at 2:25 pm
  really, i hear more fans crying than i do dwight sthu

• house Posted: Jan.27 at 2:31 pm
  Big Baby the Sequel

• AD Posted: Jan.27 at 2:36 pm
  i can’t wait till dwight teams up with deron and shuts the haters up.. Yall haters are just stupid

• Ash Posted: Jan.27 at 2:37 pm
  Sorry have to agree with Dwight. During Celtics run Dwight got the ball twice in the post. Glenn Davis was missing jumpers or his teammates was turning over the ball. Dwight had advantage over KG

• Caboose Posted: Jan.27 at 3:04 pm
  Ash: How many times did Dwight fight for position and demand the ball? I’m not a Dwight hater, I’ve defended him for a long time. But honestly, he’s not giving Orlando everything he can. It’s not the whining I’m upset about. It’s his effort and borderline hypocrisy.

• FnF Posted: Jan.27 at 3:09 pm
  ^^^Agreed, His happy-go-lucky demeanor is his undoing. If you 3-4 trips down the floor and your team isn’t getting you the ball, say something about it. If you are getting fronted, set up position on the other block. If he feels his team needs to feed the post more, get open. If they miss you when you were open, let them know about it.

• Wayno Posted: Jan.27 at 4:08 pm
  He’s Toronto Vince Cartering it out there…You don’t piss and moan in public when your team isn’t how you want it. I play or maybe talk to management IN PRIVATE about a trade….If no trade happens, just sign with another team when your contract is up. It’s not rocket science.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 4:26 pm
  he isn’t pissing and moaning. wtf are you talking about.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 4:28 pm
  He hasn’t requested a trade publicly either, he requests the trade in private and his AGENT or the ORLANDO MAGIC make the request public. If you’re ignorant about what is being said or how it’s released it’s better to just keep your judgement to yourself.

• Mariano Posted: Jan.27 at 4:44 pm
  I didn’t watch the game but I looked at the stats and he was like -25… lol

• burnt_chicken Posted: Jan.27 at 5:05 pm
  I find it interesting when people complain that a player is complaining too much. I also find the expression “Y’all definition of crying is broken” to be quite funny. On a few different levels.

• Caboose Posted: Jan.27 at 5:07 pm
  Nbk: Good points, Dwight really hasn’t been whining publicly on a Melo level. However, he does speak of playing for other teams as well as his “wish list.” I don’t mind the public demostratioms as much (thus, I object to several comments here), but I am upset at the overall lack of dedication or effort Dwight has shown the Magic this year. They still pay his contract.

• Avery Smith Posted: Jan.27 at 5:29 pm
  Cats want instant championships. Grass is greener mentality. Whats sad about these guys is that even though a guy like Dwight “wants to win”, and is used to “winning”, he has to understand that everyone in the NBA from the stars to the DNP’s all the way at the end of the bench are used to winning on some level. That’s how they got to the NBA. Everyone was Jordan in high school. What we have here is a glut of talent, and so crazy superior skilled athletes get championships. Let’s stop this whole “I win” crap. It’s kind of smug when you think about it. Dwight, if you win, then how come you got swept in the 2009 NBA Finals? Just humble yourself and wait your turn like everyone else. These guys worship championships and winning like its their God. Calm down and play basketball. You don’t here Derrick Rose crying like this. Or Kevin Durant. Hakeem stayed. David Robinson stayed. Both got 2 rings at the tail end of their careers. Ewing stayed. Kobe stayed.The only center that bounced around was Shaq, when you think about it.

• Tarzan Cooper Posted: Jan.27 at 5:53 pm
  People are questioning dwights effort? Hahahaha
  How many 20 20 games has dwight had already in this season? Magic players should know to feed dwight the ball, its common sense, and I’m sure their stated gameplan. Instead, bad shots are taken.

• Caboose Posted: Jan.27 at 6:09 pm
  Effort in terms of leadership. I really hate arguing against Dwight. His production has been fine, but he has yet to step up when his team needs him.

• BE.water Posted: Jan.27 at 6:40 pm
  reading nbk’s posts remind me that there are still intelligent folks who think out their thoughts before they type them. “Y’all definition of crying is broken” I could say that about alot of comments on here.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 8:48 pm
  Do you think Howards agent is gonna let something slip to the media that Howard doesnt approve? and crying to me is trying to solve a problem by talking to a third party instead of holding the source of the problem accountable. He is allowed to say “No Comment” he should Go to the coach and demand more post possessions or go to the players and demand it as a leader of the team. Unless he as a player is unsure of his post skills or his team and coach do not have faith in his ability for good reason. Oh and let some other player call his team out in the media like this and we would see a swarm of hate, and if this was the NFL he would get the Willie Beeman treatment

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 8:53 pm
  His agent is going to do what’s best for his client. He isn’t going to chek with Howard, it’s his job to do what is most beneficial.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 8:55 pm
  Oh and I ask all those that say people just hate on Howard – Do you think he has reached his full potential? Or is devoting enough time to try to reach it? Other players with less do so much more like Zach Randolph for example. Would it be so hard for Dwight to work on his post game? he has had the best coaches from Kareem, to Ewing to Olajuwan, plus the mold is there in Shaq’s career, he has all the physical gifts but it seems to me with the smiling and slow progression of his offensive game that maybe his dedication should come into question.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 8:57 pm
  So making him look like a whining b!tch is whats best for Howard, I understand now. and despite what you think agents dont have the final say, he might suggest it to howard and convince him, but ultimately the client would make the final call.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 9:19 pm
  He doesn’t look like a whining b*tch to the people that understand. Which is everyone that actually matters. No offense, but your perception of Howard, just like every other person here is 100% irrelevant. Once he gets traded and starts to help another team, this will all fall by the wayside.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 9:28 pm
  Yeah the client makes the final call on an “anonymous” source? Lol because teams not knowing about Dwight’s desire to be traded will really yield a better situation. If a player wants toget traded the word will get out 100% of the time.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 9:31 pm
  I have no doubt he will help another team (only by default though), but he will not save another team or put a team straight into title contention. and I thought these comment sections were for people’s opinions, unless I don’t understand this either. And I have to respectfully disagree depending on where he goes I think the hate will increase along with the scrutiny of his lacking offensive game.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 9:33 pm
  This article is about a statement he made to the press and earlier you said “His agent is going to do what’s best for his client. He isn’t going to chek with Howard, it’s his job to do what is most beneficial.” which was a reference to his agent releasing a statement to the press or is my reading comprehension failing me again?

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 9:49 pm
  Yes it is actually. What the hell did Dwight say that has anything to do with being traded?

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 10:00 pm
  I’ll lay out the progression, people complained about Dwight b!tching, you said “y’all definition of crying is broken” then you said “He hasn’t requested a trade publicly either, he requests the trade in private and his AGENT or the ORLANDO MAGIC make the request public.” so it was actually you who introduced his trade talks into the argument, then I addressed it by saying the agent wouldnt do anything that his client didnt ok. and this article was about him calling his team out in the media, thus the opinion that he was crying. Easy enough to understand?????

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 10:04 pm
  Wayno Posted: Jan.27 at 4:08 pm
  He’s Toronto Vince Cartering it out there…You don’t piss and moan in public when your team isn’t how you want it. I play or maybe talk to management IN PRIVATE about a trade….If no trade happens, just sign with another team when your contract is up. It’s not rocket science. nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 4:28 pm
  He hasn’t requested a trade publicly either, he requests the trade in private and his AGENT or the ORLANDO MAGIC make the request public. If you’re ignorant about what is being said or how it’s released it’s better to just keep your judgement to yourself. (shutup seriously you need to read all of the comments if your going to just jump in a conversation and try to pick an argument)

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 10:11 pm
  And if you consider what he said to be crying then your definition of crying is broken.
  .
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  I’m out, talking with you takes all of the enjoyment out of this website.

• shutup Posted: Jan.27 at 10:37 pm
  I dont like arguing despite what it seems like, I just like to play devils advocate, especially when you contradict yourself, if its his agent that “leaks” it to the media then him being an employee who is in charge of his clients public image as you stated is crying none the less. and like i said him calling his team out in the media is crying and his stating his opinion about where he wants to go publicly (even if directly asked by members of the media, he does have the right to remain silent) can be construed as crying. and I’m sorry if pointing out the flaws in your comments takes the fun out of it for you, reading some of your comments or doctrines on all things basketball isnt fun for me either.

• nbk Posted: Jan.27 at 10:51 pm
  His trade demand has to be public for the Magic to hear as many trade offers as possible. For everybody that doesn’t understand why these demands are made public. Just like the Nuggets wanted Melo’s demand to be public. If the trade demand is private then Howard retains the power to go to the strongest team with enough chips to trade. The more public, the more teams have to compete for a player, and thus the more assets they want to give up. Dwight’s agent would want his trade demand to be public so that he can get Dwight to sign an extension that yields more money then if he moved via free agency in the off-season. The public trade demand is also a tool to speed up the process of getting a player into a bigger market. Dwight just like most professional basketball players tell their agent what they want and then the agent does his job from there. Spreading rumors to build interest is a common tactic. If the agents name isn’t connected to the rumor then there is no way for anyone to blame him. (for example, his client). That’s how The system has been explained and showed to ME. This is not a doctrine or anything else for anyone reading this to get all ass hurt about. Think of it as an opinion. If you have that ability.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 1:19 am
  The trade demands dont have to be public for Orlando to hear trade offers, everybody (GM’s especially) know Howards contract situation, its there job too. The fact that players or their agents make it public is a power move to try to force managements hand. And usually if its the team that wants to trade it thats what hits the news (like NO wanting to trade Kaman) as for all these this talk of it not coming from him you gotta know thats B$, there have been countless articles about where HE would like to be traded or where HE considered playing. As for him crying; again tonight there were reports on espn that at halftime he called out his team, they stated that he told the media about this after the game, so yes he’s crying like a b!tch and doesnt realize his actions are hurting this team. Oh and dont try to take what i stated earlier and act like its now a point to prove your arguement; either its a tool that the agent and client use knowingly or it isnt, it cant be both. If it is his agent spreading the rumors even anonymously Dwight knows about it and has signed off on it in some form, as for the direct quotes to the media that just reiterates my point that Dwight is aware of what hes doing and his agent isnt acting like a rogue uhmm well agent

• Avery Smith Posted: Jan.28 at 1:59 am
  Cats want instant championships. Grass is greener mentality. Whats sad about these guys is that even though a guy like Dwight “wants to win”, and is used to “winning”, he has to understand that everyone in the NBA from the stars to the DNP’s all the way at the end of the bench are used to winning on some level. That’s how they got to the NBA. Everyone was Jordan in high school. What we have here is a glut of talent, and so crazy superior skilled athletes get championships. Let’s stop this whole “I win” crap. It’s kind of smug when you think about it. Dwight, if you win, then how come you got swept in the 2009 NBA Finals? Just humble yourself and wait your turn like everyone else. These guys worship championships and winning like its their God. Calm down and play basketball. You don’t here Derrick Rose crying like this. Or Kevin Durant. Hakeem stayed. David Robinson stayed. Both got 2 rings at the tail end of their careers. Ewing stayed. Kobe stayed.The only center that bounced around was Shaq when you think about it.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 2:21 am
  @avery I agree except that Wilt bounced around too, so did Kareem. I think Dwight needs to work on the holes in his game, there are some gaping ones, like free throws, passing out the double team, offensive post moves, even his competitive fire (although I dont think this can be worked on, either you have it or dont) but first and foremost I think he needs to mature as a player and a leader. I know I keep saying this but there is a reason his teammates dont defer to him and his coach doesnt have faith in him.

• Justin G. Posted: Jan.28 at 2:47 am
  nbk, yes when he goes to another team this will all fall by the wayside but that’s because he won’t be in a contract year and perhaps will be on a team he asked to be traded to. If that team doesn’t start winning right away let’s see how he handles it because you don’t just change your personality like that. The diva in him will come out again

• Shtrobi-1 Posted: Jan.28 at 3:33 am
  1. Dwight is playing out of position, the Magic screwed up by trading Gortat and by not playing them both together more often. 2. Dwight should be a POWER FORWARD. Throw him into the same category as a young Horace Grant or young Dennis Rodman on a good team like they were, and that is the best position for him to be in, and that team will dominate. He got lucky and successful at centre because Shaq was fading and there were no other centres in the league worth a pinch in the East. Now Beefy Gasol and Bynum have developed and are around along with some more unheralded Euro-Centres (Gortat) and role-player centres (Chandler, DeAndre Jordan)who will be just as successful without the high expectations as Howie. If he decides to play 2nd/3rd/4th fiddle on a good team he is gonna get his rings, be an all-star and could be considered one of the great PF of all-time. But I just don’t see him being one of the great centres.

• GC6 Posted: Jan.28 at 7:12 am
  Cosign Caboose on pretty much everything
  Did anyone watch the game when Dwight wasn’t playing we were doing well as soon as he came on the court the flow was disrupted he wasnt drawing any double teams everytime they though the ball in he would turn it over or miss a shot he doesnt intimidate anyone attacking the basket anymore.

• Justin G. Posted: Jan.28 at 8:09 am
  Kareem got “bounced around”? He played for Milwaukee for 6 years and the Lakers for 14 years. Not exactly bouncing around

• Ismael Posted: Jan.28 at 8:55 am
  Yes Dwight, something’s gotta change, you need to DOMINATE IN A CONSISTENT BASIS.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 10:44 am
  @ justin he mentioned three centers that stuck it out on the team they were drafted that had successful careers, the move from the bucks to the lakers was controversial in its time, maybe bounced around was the wrong word, but he didnt stick it out on a smaller market team either and actually if you think about it Ewing never really had ultimate team success and at the end of career he got shipped around a bit until injury ended his career (but he went from big market to small market). One more center that was drafted by a team and then found success on another was Bill Walton.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 10:54 am
  @Justin g I agree with the diva comment completely, he’s gonna be vilified if he leaves orlando, and whatever team does get him is gonna high have expectations, and if he goes to a big market team like NY,LA or Chicago the fans are gonna eat him alive, and he will go back to being a cancer in the locker room. Do you realize how much Gasol hate comes out of LA? considering he was the piece that put them back on top (also do you really see Kobe deferring to him? He wouldnt with Shaq he wont with Gasol or Bynum). Look at how much people dislike boozer in Chicago or all the scrutiny the Knicks stars are under both Melo and Amare.

• nbk Posted: Jan.28 at 1:03 pm
  KAJ demanded a trade out of Milwuakee to either New York or Los Angeles in 1974, Wilt demanded a trade from The 76ers in 1968. Bunch of whining b*tches.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 3:11 pm
  So you have the audacity to compare Howard to the possibly two best centers ever to play the game? Both Wilt and Kareem were leaders on and off the court. and upon some research Kareem didnt demand a trade he requested one, theres a difference. and he was born in NY and went to school in LA so its different than demanding a trade to a contender. Also being a black activist in Milwaukee probably wasnt looked on to well. The only one who looks like a whining b!tch is you and Howard

• nbk Posted: Jan.28 at 3:58 pm
  Demanding/Requesting a trade are the same thing. We are just in the Internet age. Where stupid ass people (like the dumbass who responds and reads my comments even though he doesn’t enjoy it) can make a bigger deal out of things then they need too. Pussys

• nbk Posted: Jan.28 at 4:27 pm
  Demanding as requesting a trade are the same. The difference is now there is the Internet for Little p*ssys like the dumb f*ckin idiot who read and responds to my comments even though he doesnt enjoy it, can make a big f*ckin deal out of nothing. Kareem and Wilt aren’t considered whiny b*tches, just like Kobe isn’t, and Melo isn’t. The only whiny b*tches are the people who make a big deal out of somethin that has been happening for half a century.

• shutup Posted: Jan.28 at 4:38 pm
  Demanding and requesting arent the same thing, not even synonyms. as for the rest of your comment, I hope you end up on Maury with a black on black baby. You are not the Father. lmao

• Freerice Posted: Jan.29 at 12:50 am
  I used to like Dwight
  But he’s a douchebag just whining and complaining they were on top of the east they were still whining and complaining. I feel as for the magic players and fans
  Trade his selfish ass already