Wednesday, January 18th, 2012 at 3:00 pm  |  62 responses

Report: Knicks to Target Steve Nash in the Offseason


We’re all painfully aware of the New York Knicks’ epic struggles at the point guard spot, and with Steve Nash’s Phoenix Suns making their annual pilgrimage to MSG tonight, it’s only natural that the Nash-to-the-Knicks rumors make their return. From the NY Post: “Because point guards Toney Douglas and Iman Shumpert ineffective and inconsistent, respectively, Baron Davis’ return can’t come soon enough. Stoudemire is adjusting to playing power forward and seeing his pick-and-rolls called for Tyson Chandler, something D’Antoni said he believes Stoudemire can work through. ‘I’ve been a screen-and-roll guy, getting baskets my whole career, so it’s a little bit different now,’ said Stoudemire, citing rust because of recovering from his back woes. ‘But it’s very early and the lockout plays a big factor. It just takes time for me to get back into a rhythm.’ The Knicks just need to look at the other bench tonight to see what their offense is supposed to look like. Nash, who ran D’Antoni’s system to perfection, was averaging an NBA-high 10.1 assists before last night’s 118-97 loss to the Bulls, even though he will turn 38 next month. That’s why The Post has reported the Knicks plan to target Nash (along with Jameer Nelson and Raymond Felton) with this summer’s $5 million mid-level exception. ‘You’ve got a guy by the name of Steve Nash who’s orchestrating the offense,’ Stoudemire said. ‘Things seem to run a little smoother when he’s got control of the ball. But we’ll get there.’”

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  • Jer dawg Posted: Jan.18 at 3:04 pm
    Knicks suck. They can’t harness any talent because the coach is a bum who can’t get a defensive guy on his coaching staff. Go hire Kurt Rambis and see if he’s interested. You bums.

  • Riggs Posted: Jan.18 at 3:04 pm
    ….fire whoever is running this organization.

  • rob miller Posted: Jan.18 at 3:09 pm
    besides the hate we do really need a lead guard asap picking up jameer or raymond in the off season would be really big especially raymond but nash is ultimately one of the best to run that dantoni system.

  • LA Huey Posted: Jan.18 at 3:28 pm
    Defensive juggernaut.

  • house Posted: Jan.18 at 3:28 pm
    I would rather Nash gets to stay in PHX instead of ending up in the ishhole that is the NYK organisation. I mean things in PHX wont be any worse/better than New York but at least Steve will be in his home, he seems like the kind of guy who would appreciate that instead of being used as an emergency stopgap to stop the bleeding in New York. We all know that Nash doesn’t play defence anyway which is exactly what NYK need to start doing otherwise they will continue to effing suck balls.

  • Holy Baller Posted: Jan.18 at 3:35 pm
    Will the Knicks ever be relevant again? Will they ever learn to stay STILL for a while and try to keep the roster stable for more than a month at a time?

  • Fat Lever Posted: Jan.18 at 3:40 pm
    HAHAHAHA, Raymond Felton? You mean the same Felton you traded away to get Melo? This franchise is a riot.

  • The NUPE Posted: Jan.18 at 3:43 pm
    It will be interesting to see if things get any better with B-Davis. IF his back is ‘normal’ and he’s in decent shape, he can really help turn things around. He made an impact on the horrible Cavs near the end of last year and actually made Ryan Hollins look like a basketball player. If he has Melo, Chandler and Amare around him, things can really be different.

  • nbk Posted: Jan.18 at 3:51 pm
    If the Knicks can get Nash in the off-season they will improve. That much is certain.

  • Heals Posted: Jan.18 at 4:00 pm
    You beat me to it Huey, I was just going to say nothing says we’re committed to D like go after Nash. All jokes aside I’d love for him to land there and stop Melo and STAT from dribbling the ball flat while they iso for their shots…

  • OEasy Posted: Jan.18 at 4:01 pm
    #Firedantoni.

  • OEasy Posted: Jan.18 at 4:03 pm
    Expeditiously.

  • O Posted: Jan.18 at 4:07 pm
    Co-sign Riggs. Seriously, WTF? I’d rather Felton over any other FA point out there after this year. Nash is the man, but he’s bound to fall off within a year or two. A one year contract is fine, but i’d rather sign Felton to a few years.

  • logues Posted: Jan.18 at 4:23 pm
    steve nash will make them a better team(short term), and he would fit good into the knicks offense, but if they really want to get better as far as advancing in the playoffs(long term), nash is not the answer. he’s getting old and getting another player who cant play D? i dont think so. defense is their number one need as of right now

  • DeeDre Posted: Jan.18 at 4:43 pm
    This is stupid. Why would he go back to a system that’s proven it can’t win a championship? He’ll give them 2 years at that and still won’t win the one things he’s searching for. He might as well stay in Phoenix where at least he know he’s gonna lose

  • DeeDre Posted: Jan.18 at 4:43 pm
    This is stupid. Why would he go back to a system that’s proven it can’t win a championship? He’ll give them 2 years at that and still won’t win the one things he’s searching for. He might as well stay in Phoenix where at least he know he’s gonna lose

  • nbk Posted: Jan.18 at 4:45 pm
    Your straight up lying to yourself if you think the Knicks are going to add any long term solutions at the PG position. The most overpaid core of players in the league (Melo, Amar’e, Chandler) effectively prevent the Knicks from improving in terms of adding young, long-term talent. Sorry, it just won’t happen, unless somehow they find someone to give up players that are better then what they currently have (Douglas, Shumpert). Landry Fields is not a trade chip, he’s worth $780,000 which is basically the same as Brian Scalabrine.

  • DeeDre Posted: Jan.18 at 4:48 pm
    The best case scenario for Nash right now is staying in Phoenix. Regardless of the situation, just end your career there. Unless he goes to the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Thunder, Bulls, or Spurs (with neither choice being likely), just stay. He’s only going to be a 1 or 2 year player wherever he goes and his championship window has closed. Unless, he goes to one of those said teams

  • J. Lee Posted: Jan.18 at 4:57 pm
    The Knicks never should have let Ray Felton go.

  • 2Sikh Posted: Jan.18 at 5:03 pm
    They could have signed Allen Iverson by now…

  • l2ising Phoenix Posted: Jan.18 at 5:13 pm
    Nash isn’t Commin to NY , let’s be realistic here… The man is pushing 40 and wants a ring , I don’t think he’ll consider the Knicks as a contender even with the addition of himself, he has at least 2 more productive seasons left… Look for him to go to heat, bulls or any contender for that matter. As for the Knicks , they just need to see what b diddy brings and then plan how to improve .

  • DeeDre Posted: Jan.18 at 5:19 pm
    Why don’t the just sign Spike Lee for point guard? i’m sure he’ll play for little to nothing and have alot of passion to bring. Especially when they play the Celtics

  • Cody w Posted: Jan.18 at 5:44 pm
    Amare and Nash together again

  • matt Posted: Jan.18 at 6:12 pm
    Felton will earn more than the MLE on the open market. I think Nelson is decent but I’d rather have Baron on the cheap. It all depends what Nash wants.

  • Ben Osborne Posted: Jan.18 at 6:16 pm
    too little, too late

  • Jerome Posted: Jan.18 at 6:33 pm
    Nah to LAL. He would take less money to win … it is the best chance he’s got. Plus, he could work on his move to T.V.

  • Joey E. Posted: Jan.18 at 6:51 pm
    knicks should have never let chris duhon go!

  • l2ising Phoenix Posted: Jan.18 at 7:08 pm
    ^ Lmaoooo , I hope your joking.

  • 1982 Posted: Jan.18 at 7:18 pm
    ^He meant Chris Childs.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.18 at 7:20 pm
    Knicks never should have signed Tyson Chandler. They really should have kept Billups instead. Billups and Stoudemire would work. Knicks weren’t playing a lick of defense without Tyson and they aren’t playing a lick of defense with Tyson. Multiple-year deal worth $15 million a year for a man who has never cracked a single All-Star team? Had they kept Billups they could have signed other players too–now they’re back to the Isiah years of overpaying the sh!t out of borderline (not even, really) All-Stars. The Knicks without Donnie Walsh are like Cleveland without LeBron.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.18 at 7:23 pm
    best coach of the last 10 years

  • J Posted: Jan.18 at 7:46 pm
    Melo trade screwed them up., cap-wise, basketball-wise. Someone’s got to go in that core (Chandler-Amare-Melo).

  • albie1kenobi Posted: Jan.18 at 7:49 pm
    if a team’s future hope is placed squarely on the shoulder of a 37 year old point guard (albeit extremely in shape), the team is screwed.
    defense is indeed the biggest issue with the Knicks, but w/o a capable point guard, their high offense capability is completely stuck. it’s like having a ferrari with the gear stuck on first. so not only are they getting killed on the defensive end, they can’t get anything done on the offense either.
    ladies and gentlemen, YOUR! New York Knicks!

  • l2ising Phoenix Posted: Jan.18 at 7:55 pm
    Mardy Collins ftw

  • l2ising Phoenix Posted: Jan.18 at 7:57 pm
    I’m gonna be a little random here, but does anyone remember when qyntell woods missed that 360 dunk, if you do…your a true Knicks fan :D

  • Jose Posted: Jan.18 at 8:48 pm
    Wasn’t there an issue with melo and amare playing together, something like they were players who needed to have the ball in their hands to score. . i mean, i know nash and amare have their chemistry but still. . .melo might have something to say about that when he’s not the one handling the rock should nash even consider NYK

  • Gametimeweezy Posted: Jan.18 at 9:56 pm
    Charlie Ward where are you? we should just draft Robert Griffin III

  • Hart Posted: Jan.18 at 10:13 pm
    We just got whooped by him….

  • MIKE Posted: Jan.18 at 11:36 pm
    cursed garden or something man= great players becoming mediocre once they become knicks. neither melo, amare nor chandler- look like stars- nor do they look like olympians. dunno if a point will cure it- they re log jammed and have no chemistry at the front.

  • the_unknown Posted: Jan.19 at 12:28 am
    honestly, i loved the knicks when they had felton, gallo, and chandler. they had something going, this melo thing in ny just isn’t working out.

  • ronny123 Posted: Jan.19 at 2:49 am
    mike d antoni system is fast break,and lame in defense,melo isnt a guy like that and doesnt fit in knicks.imo steve nash is fit in knicks with his former coach and mike d antoni wow sounds like old phoenix suns without j rich.lol

  • ronny123 Posted: Jan.19 at 2:50 am
    and funny,landry field is a”starter”?

  • Chief Posted: Jan.19 at 4:23 am
    I’ve never heard a more pity party story than this. Steve could never stop anything and neither can Amare as far as help D in the post goes. So fire D’Antoni (who sees no potential with Iman Shumpert and Bill Walker) hire the trainer from the Nuggets and get’em fired up to win a Chip. Lose the loser stigma, embrace some trends and let’s go deep this year. Also if Ronnie Brewer is on the market trade Landry Fields for him.

  • Justin G. Posted: Jan.19 at 8:17 am
    Nash needs a shot at a title and New York is not the place to try and get it. Most overrated/overpaid front line ever

  • AD Posted: Jan.19 at 9:15 am
    it makes so much sense… he may not play d but he’ll make that offense run way smoother and make carmelo and Stat better……. but i read that steve wanted to retire a sun………..

  • jimmer Posted: Jan.19 at 9:24 am
    Carmelo Anthony is the beginning middle and end of the Knicks problems

  • @boweezy24 Posted: Jan.19 at 9:38 am
    Yeah Knicks Were Better With Out Carmelo! Never Should Have Traded For Him! but Nash Would Help Them Offensively! (SpellCheck) ? ha

  • FLIGHT 9 Posted: Jan.19 at 9:53 am
    Offense wins Championships
    Defense wins some games
    Carmelo 30ppg. and Amare 22ppg. will give you a dynasty.
    - Mike D’ Antoni from a Fantasy bball they look great!!!1

  • crooklyn Posted: Jan.19 at 10:10 am
    The knicks, were not better before anthony, the real problem is amare’ exposes himself for the limited player he is . Without felton in ny, he showed that he aint got a clue what to do without someone (a real pg) leading him to the hole. Ystdy he was passing up open looks in the final minutes, for charges and passes to shumpert…???????are you kidding, this dude is supposed to be THAT DUDE, that needs the rock in crunch time. NY killed itself when they didnt trade melo for gallinari and fields straight up, they just love holding out for a great white hope and messed everything up in the process.

  • nbk Posted: Jan.19 at 10:14 am
    Mike D’Antoni has Tyson Chandler taking part in more Pick & Rolls then Stoudemire, which is the biggest reason his acquisition was a huge mistake. Last night D’Antoni had Amar’e or Melo in isolation after isolation, which is not at all Amar’e's strength, or D’Antoni’s as a coach. Hopefully Baron Davis is in even halfway decent shape when he returns.

  • Gametimeweezy Posted: Jan.19 at 10:35 am
    Woah woah woah chill with the its never going to work talk. Especially anyone named Jimmer, oh gawd! Melo has more talent in his toenail than Jimmer will ever have, number one. Number two, no one is expecting an elite team from the Knicks. An elite offense, yes. A homecourt advantage in the playoffs, yes. A championship, not yet. We have the Yankees for that. Number three, I’ve gone through and seen some pretty terrible teams and actually would take this roster and call it progress. See what Baron Davis can bring.

  • jimmer Posted: Jan.19 at 10:42 am
    sorry, there is another problem I forgot about: ‘coach’ d’antoni’s playbook only ever consisted of one thing: give ball to S.Nash, collect million dollar paycheques. When are we going to stop calling this man an ‘offensive genius’, seriously, it’s rediculous. He was the biggest obstacle to the suns never winning a title.

  • jimmer Posted: Jan.19 at 10:43 am
    *ever* winning a title, sorry.

  • jimmer Posted: Jan.19 at 10:45 am
    *ever* winning a title

  • Gametimeweezy Posted: Jan.19 at 10:53 am
    Not saying I’m the biggest D’Antoni fan but if you’ve ever seen the Knicks at MSG before he started coaching here he really did bring a more exciting and uptempo game. Nash was a good PG before… but under D’Antonis system he flourished to MVP status. That’s good for something.

  • Allenp Posted: Jan.19 at 10:54 am
    DAntoni seems to believe that involving Chandler in pick and roll is smart because Amare can spot up on the weakside.
    Only, it’s not. Chandler is not nearly the threat Amare is rolling to the basket. Unfortunately, if you take Chandler out of the pick and roll it could affect spacing as teams will cheat from the weakside into the lane because they won’t respect him.
    However, I would still run it and tell Tyson to crash the glass on any shot. A smart point who is patient will find Chandler cutting after Amare clears. Plus, if teams cheat on Amare when he picks and pops, Chandler will kill them on the offensive glass just like he did in Dallas.
    But we all know DAntoni is not known for making adjustments.

  • Max Posted: Jan.19 at 11:39 am
    if that deal goes through the Knicks IQ is twice as high all of a sudden!

  • trueballer Posted: Jan.19 at 11:44 am
    DEFENSE/REBOUNDS WINS BALL GAMES!

  • Carl E. Posted: Jan.19 at 12:21 pm
    I think that getting Raymond Felton back and signing him to a long term contract is a better idea than pursing an aging Steve Nash. There are no instant fixes for the Knicks. They have a good center. They need a different coaching perspective wherein defense is emphasized. I think that it is necessary to use either Amare or Carmelo as trade bate. They should trade one of them for a more athletic small forward who plays defense, reates off the dribble, and shoots well from the outside.
    Rome wasn’t built in a day. Just reality!!!

  • Mike B. Posted: Jan.19 at 2:10 pm
    Suck it all you NY haters. You’ll all be singing a different tune after the all star break when we are in game shape and have things clicking right. They’re just under a lot of pressure right now and things will get better with time.

  • The Realist Posted: Jan.19 at 2:13 pm
    The Melo trade seriously depleted the talent level of the Knicks. That is without question. But, watching this team is like watching a hemmoroid being removed. They don’t move the ball, they stand flat-footed, take plays off, and just don’t play good fundamental ball.
    I used to defend D’Antoni; I can’t do it anymore. The could get LeBron and Kobe and they would still suck. The reason they aren’t the Wizards is because they have a little pride. So, take Nash, now!!! Call Phil Jackson and let him back up his Bentley at the Chase Manhattan branch and load his car with all the money he wants to have. The Knicks aren’t contending as is, the Garden should be booing them on every lazy, no hustle play.

  • DieselMechanic Posted: Jan.20 at 11:53 am
    king me

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