Thursday, February 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 am | 192 responses
Derrick Rose Says He ‘Never’ Asked Bulls to Trade for Pau Gasol
Derrick Rose denied published reports that he had quietly urged the Chicago front-office to go after Pau Gasol. Per CSN: “I heard it after the game [on Monday] and that’s something that I wouldn’t say to anyone,’ said Rose. ‘It was all false and that’s something I’ll never do. I’m good with the teammates that I have. I’ve always been saying that. We’ve been winning games and we’re not in the position to look to trade anyone right now. I talked to [Boozer] a little bit, but I think he already knew that [the rumor] was false,’ continued Rose. ‘It’s something that I wouldn’t do to anyone. It was all false.’”
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“ill tighten my belt before i ask for help” – jay z
Rose’s team was good enough to get to the playoffs his rookie year when he was great for a rookie, but average overall.
They team was already a playoff squad BEFORE they got the number one pick in the draft.
You can’t compare their situations or the front office decisions. Yes the Bulls has made some mistakes, but they’ve been bailed out by the draft. Orlando hasn’t drafted well since getting Dwight, and has overpaid for marginal role players. Basically, Dwight got the LeBron treatment. Durant and Rose did not.
He used to have no moves, he has moves now. He used be unable to post up stronger players, he posts up anybody now. He has a jump shot. He can shoot with his left hand. He understands counter moves.
He is so much better as a passer its ridiculous. Jeff Van Gundy mentions this all the time, but I’ve noticed it as well. He used to be an offensive black hole just last year. He didn’t understand how to anticipate double teams and pass out of them. Now he knows how to make smart passes, how to repost, all of that stuff. And that’s despite giving you all those rebounds and blocked shots.
Man, Dwight may never, ever be a fluid offensive player. But he’s so much improved over where he was that to make the argument that he hasn’t gotten better or doesn’t work hard is just asinine. Steve Kerr said years ago that Dwight may just lack the “scorer’s touch” that some players are born with or develop early. He may never get it. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t work hard.
Durant and Rose are monsters. Absolute monsters. But, just because people like their attitudes or public personas they build them up in ways that are dangerous and dishonest. Every superstar in the League puts in crazy work on their games and their bodies.
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And if you have been paying any attention this season you would clearly see that the Bulls, without Derrick Rose, are still a playoff team.
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The MVP award is not given to guys that make their team playoff teams from non-playoff teams.
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If that happened then LeBron would have what, 5 MVPs already?
Are you going to take that?? lolol
You know you were talkin’ ’bout Black folks. lol
Looking at assist numbers to determine passing can cause you miss facts.
Dwight hits shooter in scoring position from the block, he makes the correct pass from the double team and he makes it at the correct time. These are all learned skills and important ones. He rarely over dribbles. He rarely gets those ridiculous charging fouls he used to get all the time as a younger player.
He has shown the ability to hit a bank shot from the post since last year. He said he worked on it with Ewing for years, but always lacked the confidence to use it in a game situation. He does now.
I mean, I’m watching dude play. He’s so much better it’s not funny, and the biggest leap was last year. At this point, it’s obvious you’re invested in a certain position and that’s fine, I just disagree vehemently.
Sure, I’ll give you some money. I’m a charitable kind of gentile.
As for a parable, I used to come up here often with a quote.
As is such, it goes like this;
“When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, I used everything you gave me”.
-Erma Bombeck
Magic teamed up.
Kobe teamed up.
Rose got drafted number one by a team that was only like a year removed from the playoffs and had made multiple top ten selections in the past decade.
Durant got drafted number two, by a team that then had multiple lottery picks in subsequent years.
LeBron and wade both got drafted high. They were both so good that their squads were playoff teams quickly and no longer had great draft picks most year. Sadly, their front offices did a poor job of assembling talent.
Look at Wade. Number five pick, makes the playoffs in year one, ECF in year two, Finals in year three, playoffs in year four. Sucks for a year, then gets a group of scrubs to the playoffs multiple years. Has his team use the second pick on Beasley.
LeBron joins the Cavs. Wins 35 games a rookie. 42 games as a soph. 50 games in his third year. His success meant they didn’t get the best picks, and then to compound the problem they draft cats like Luke Jackson, Stephen Graham and random Euros.
The year before the Bulls got Rose they won 33 games, but the year before that they won 49. totally different situations.
others who dont share their views or their bull. anytime i blast the knicks or heat, or give props to the bulls my little children nbk and allenp are there following me. i give you props for expressing you opinion to these
ridiculous children who either rant or curse to try and get their points across.
-Benjamin Disraeli
sickest line I ever heard from Stephen A. Smith “benefit of the doubt gets replaced by presumption of guilt”
Many great men have followed in the footsteps of others. It’s not about Dwight trying to find some great man to follow, it’s about him disliking where he’s at, particularly him not really like Otis Smith.
Look, who have the Magic drafted that was a legit player since they got Dwight? Jameer? Reddick? Travis Diener? James Augustine? He has them in the playoffs by year three, and they can’t figure out how to surround him with talent. Go back and look at those rosters.
Let’s look at Dwight’s career. He comes out of high school and is completely raw. Averages a double/double on talent alone on a putrid team. Year two he’s averaging 15.8 and 12.5. At 20-years-old! Year four he’s averaging 20.7 and and 14.2! Those are the numbers that made Kevin Love a media darling last year. Since he hit the 20 ppg plateau, he’s only had one year where he dropped below it, and that was still his most efficient year as far as field goal percentage. The next year he’s at a career highs for scoring.
I agree that dude is somewhat robotic on the block. That he whines to the refs. That it felt like it took him forever to develop. But, when you look at his numbers and team success, it’s obvious that he was a game changer almost immediately.
But, I’m reminded of how SHOCKED some people were when they saw Durant without a shirt on and realized he was tatted up. It went against the little fantasy image they’ve created in their minds.
Durant and Rose have both been blessed with situations where they were either immediately competitive, or were quickly surrounded by high caliber talent.
That was not true for Bron or Dwight. I think that’s just a fact.
Well, it is a step TO knowledge to know that we are ignorant. It is not automatic.
Use your head for it
Ain’t no use in bein scared a ish
If you prepared for it”- Dead Prez off the Soul in the Hole soundtrack. I see you Lakeshow and much respect The Philosopher. That album was off the hook, had Wu-Tang, Big Pun, Xzibit, Common, Cocoa Brovaz(smiff &Wessun), M.O.P., and other great tracks.
So, you’re honestly saying you haven’t seen Dwight’s development as a player?
Moreover, considering how absolutely raw he was coming out of high school, you honestly don’t believe he’s developed skills?
Seeing as how I don’t think you’re ignorant, it’s almost like you just don’t like Dwight on a personal level. That’s fine, your choice, but it can’t be justified with the fact that he hasn’t improved enough as a player. He was just an athletic blob when he came in the League, he’s a complete player now. He’s not an all-time great, but he is very, very good.
Durant and Rose both were in China during the Lockout. And Durant played for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the Phillipines.
Like I said earlier, every superstar in the League puts in work in the offseason. I mean, do you think Durant goes harder in the weight room than Dwight? Before this season, did Durant work hard enough on all of the aspects of the game not related to scoring?
Nor are they better than the Knicks, Atlanta or Indiana, which are the other teams in the bottom half of the conference.
But, even without Rose they would probably be over .500 in a season.
Mainly because teams would prepare differently for the entire system for the Bulls and the Bulls players would be able to shoulder on knowing that they only have to pick up the slack for a short amount of time. It’s different when you know you have to do something every night compared to having to do it for a short period of time.
I don’t know about the Bucks being better than a Rose-less bulls, but I would say Cleveland is for sure.
“Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.”
-Andre Gide
-Lee Segall
And, Dwight is a very good player. Last year he averaged 23 and 14. That’s dominating.
I don’t expect him to score as much as players in the past because that’s not his game and that’s not his team’s game. Yes, he could be better, but y’all act like he’s been wasting time and not really improving because he’s always laughing. You don’t judge improvement by potential, you judge improvement by looking at the starting point.
Y’all just don’t like Dwight. His demeanor and his game. And that’s cool. But I think dude would have gotten the same 20 and 14 he’s been putting up since he was 22 in any era.
Earvin was always laughing. While adding to his game during the off season.
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just sayin
His peers do not fear him like they would fear someone else.
If you never think that, then why worry about the stats so much? Only person better at protecting the rim than Dwight Howard is DeAndre Jordan.
Also, Ibaka is a better shot-blocker/rim defender than DHow.
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. nbk Posted: Feb.23 at 11:44 am
lol, no, the Bulls are still a playoff team, with or without Rose. They are a contender with him. That’s the difference.
Says the same guy who thinks Bulls can contend without Rose. Nbk be trying to protect his internet. Image mad hard lol bum.
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The thing about a comment is, it never goes away.
I’m not doging him, I just don’t think he’s as great a shot-blocker/rim defender as everyone thinks.
plus mc=2 he will be nba champion against the mavericks, classic ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahaha
Says the same guy who thinks Bulls can contend without Rose. Nbk be trying to protect his internet. Image mad hard lol bum.
. nbk Posted: Feb.23 at 11:44 am
lol, no, the Bulls are still a playoff team, with or without Rose. They are a contender with him. That’s the difference. - its pretty simple. I never said “Bulls can contend without Rose.” so I reported my comment to illustrate such to you. Then you responded with something irrelevant, so I took your own comment and showed you why I said what I said. All you need is the ability to read things in order.
-M. Bruce Mathers III
Also…Deng has become a terrible mid-range shooter. The guy is shooting 31% from mid-range (109th among 118 players).
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