Derrick Rose Says He ‘Never’ Asked Bulls to Trade for Pau Gasol

shutup, you were going solid, but slowly going off the deep end. Bulls are a playoff team without Rose I don’t know how anyone can say otherwise now without a mental handicap. The Bulls roll with or with out D-Rose. Thibs is the second MVP of that team imo.

@Lakeshow I tried but its hard to keep interest in arguments like this.

no it isn’t a fact. people that play inside more than outside can work outside, and have a darker complexion then anyone. But still, cute try.

As is such, nbk grabs back the win…

Rose wants Gasol, but he’ll never go on record with it.

And I have plenty of money.

lol “this persona that I have on this site isnt even the same one I use on other sites let alone in real life – but the bits and pieces you expose tells so much about you.” that is rich.

It’s about time for a parable. Anybody got one?

Depends where you live, if there is a difference between the playground and gym. Only someone who is completely ignorant would assume that the way hoop is where they are from is how it is everywhere. And only an equally ignorant person would even bring up complexion. Especially if they are talking about sun-tans.

Shutup
Looking at assist numbers to determine passing can cause you miss facts.
Dwight hits shooter in scoring position from the block, he makes the correct pass from the double team and he makes it at the correct time. These are all learned skills and important ones. He rarely over dribbles. He rarely gets those ridiculous charging fouls he used to get all the time as a younger player.
He has shown the ability to hit a bank shot from the post since last year. He said he worked on it with Ewing for years, but always lacked the confidence to use it in a game situation. He does now.
I mean, I’m watching dude play. He’s so much better it’s not funny, and the biggest leap was last year. At this point, it’s obvious you’re invested in a certain position and that’s fine, I just disagree vehemently.

Seeing as I have played ball in NYC the majority of my life and now live in Vegas, which is comparable to your Arizona (I think) I feel I have a pretty good idea. 24 hour fitnesses and midnight runs are the norm out here but nothing and believe me when I tell you compares to mid-summer playground run in NYC, or for any other urban area, heard Chicago is tough and same for LA. and I would hope that the gym in your gated community would have open runs as a matter of fact what gyms do you play at?

Look you don’t know me. Your assumptions are ignorant. I’m not going to tell you about my life, the last time I did that you proceeded to comment with ignorant hate like it was diarrhea falling off your fingers. So just wallow in your assumptions, play some MW3 and continue to think your not an idiot.

As for the teaming up argument…
Magic teamed up.
Kobe teamed up.
Rose got drafted number one by a team that was only like a year removed from the playoffs and had made multiple top ten selections in the past decade.
Durant got drafted number two, by a team that then had multiple lottery picks in subsequent years.
LeBron and wade both got drafted high. They were both so good that their squads were playoff teams quickly and no longer had great draft picks most year. Sadly, their front offices did a poor job of assembling talent.
Look at Wade. Number five pick, makes the playoffs in year one, ECF in year two, Finals in year three, playoffs in year four. Sucks for a year, then gets a group of scrubs to the playoffs multiple years. Has his team use the second pick on Beasley.
LeBron joins the Cavs. Wins 35 games a rookie. 42 games as a soph. 50 games in his third year. His success meant they didn’t get the best picks, and then to compound the problem they draft cats like Luke Jackson, Stephen Graham and random Euros.
The year before the Bulls got Rose they won 33 games, but the year before that they won 49. totally different situations.

@Allen I dont disagree that he has improved, but I still see gaping holes in his game that by his 8th year in the league should have been fixed. He is also a transgressor of the rule never follow a great man , carve your own path to success, it was unfortunate for him to be drafted by Orlando and even more detrimental to embrace the Superman moniker. @Dat Pau isnt on the decline his numbers are on par with his career avgs and if the Lakers were better his numbers would be up. The Celtics are in shambles, and there is no way to defend Rose’s MVP if you believe his impact is so minimal. and you do realize the Bulls were like the five seed in a very weak eastern conference. So I contest that which you call fact I call opinion, which your entitled too, by all means

With a name like THE PHILOSOPHER i would hope he could bless us with parables and maybe even a well tuned soliloquy, but I would settle for a literary recommendation the pages on my Steppenwolf have become ragged and I have begun to highlight my underlines in my 48 Laws. @NBK did you say that in a black girl voice while having your hand on your hip and moving your neck back and forth? “Look you don’t know me. ” You is a non-factor b!tch LMFAO @allen again lol I dont disagree with the teaming up, but I dont think Rose or Durant would complain either way and maybe my perception is off about them, Durant could abuse puppies and rose hangs cats from atree in a burlap sack and beats them with a mop but until I read otherwise, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, thus the earlier post with the Stephen A Smith line shutup Posted: Feb.23 at 12:53 pm
sickest line I ever heard from Stephen A. Smith “benefit of the doubt gets replaced by presumption of guilt”

Making a playoff team the best team in your conference is anything but minimal impact. Nobody is downgrading how important Rose is to Chicago by saying they are a playoff team without him. it’s just true.

Shutup is as cool as hell, man.

I’m not presuming guilt with Durant and Rose. I think they are stand up dudes and like I said up top, I respect the hell out of Rose’s demeanor.
But, I’m reminded of how SHOCKED some people were when they saw Durant without a shirt on and realized he was tatted up. It went against the little fantasy image they’ve created in their minds.
Durant and Rose have both been blessed with situations where they were either immediately competitive, or were quickly surrounded by high caliber talent.
That was not true for Bron or Dwight. I think that’s just a fact.

But the Magic have traded for so many different types of players or signed them, but it doesnt really make a difference; I listed them earlier, and that was just off the top of my head, they made it to the finals. I dont give players a pass for jumping to the league, if theyre successful more power to them but if theyre slow to develop thats on them, they chose that road. As for Dwight he has to man up and take responsibility for his choices, coming out early landed him in Orlando, he could have shunned the superman out of respect but he embraced it like an over sized swagger-jacker. Look the other day I watched the end of an Orlando game, not sure who they were playing against but Magic lost bad and this dude is still cheesin, like ish is kosher. Same ish Stephen A said about Lebron after they lost, this dude is smiling like they won the chip. I bet Durant was in the gym the day after they got bumped and I put money that Rose was too. Look at what Durant did during the lockout, meanwhile Dwight is dunking on a 12 foot rim in japan like a clown.

you also have to actually believe it.

Dang philosopher with the dope quotes. @Nbk you’re an idiot the bulls don’t go to the playoffs without rose. Who would lead the Bulls? Deng? He tried that already he can’t do it. Noah can’t because he’s no Howard and Boozer is can’t either cause without Rose splitting Ds he can’t get opened as much. Boozer has always been good cause whatever team he’s on already has someone who attracts double teams. You’re an idiot Nbk stop trying to argue Rose with Bulls fans you moron.

Shut up
So, you’re honestly saying you haven’t seen Dwight’s development as a player?
Moreover, considering how absolutely raw he was coming out of high school, you honestly don’t believe he’s developed skills?
Seeing as how I don’t think you’re ignorant, it’s almost like you just don’t like Dwight on a personal level. That’s fine, your choice, but it can’t be justified with the fact that he hasn’t improved enough as a player. He was just an athletic blob when he came in the League, he’s a complete player now. He’s not an all-time great, but he is very, very good.
Durant and Rose both were in China during the Lockout. And Durant played for hundreds of thousands of dollars in the Phillipines.
Like I said earlier, every superstar in the League puts in work in the offseason. I mean, do you think Durant goes harder in the weight room than Dwight? Before this season, did Durant work hard enough on all of the aspects of the game not related to scoring?

I don’t know what you think constitutes a playoff team in the East, but right now, 15-17 is the 8th seed. Whether you think I’m an idiot or not, the Bulls, with how they played without Rose (7-2), would still be a playoff team.

The only reason why I think NBK is wrong about the Bulls as a playoff team without Rose is because right now, the number eight seed in the East is Boston, and I can’t honestly say that the Bulls without Rose are better than Boston, and would be better than them over the course of season. They can beat Boston in a game, but I don’t know about over a season.
Nor are they better than the Knicks, Atlanta or Indiana, which are the other teams in the bottom half of the conference.
But, even without Rose they would probably be over .500 in a season.

I think that without Rose, Boozer is your best player. And a Boozer, Deng, Hamilton, Noah nucleus is enough to be around .500.
Mainly because teams would prepare differently for the entire system for the Bulls and the Bulls players would be able to shoulder on knowing that they only have to pick up the slack for a short amount of time. It’s different when you know you have to do something every night compared to having to do it for a short period of time.
I don’t know about the Bucks being better than a Rose-less bulls, but I would say Cleveland is for sure.