Saturday, April 28th, 2012 at 6:32 pm  |  136 responses

Derrick Rose Has Torn ACL, Out For Remainder of Playoffs


Well, this is just terrible. After being carried off the floor towards the end of the fourth quarter of today’s Bulls win over the 76ers, the Chicago Bulls’ Twitter feed is reporting that Derrick Rose is out for the rest of the Playoffs with a torn ACL. What else is there to say? Awful. Here’s to a strong recovery.

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  • AsadSaleh3

    The schedule didn’t allow for a lot of recovery time. That’s the main thing here. Dwight and Derrick have never missed games like they did this season. I heard that there will be back to backs in the 2nd round of the playoffs. I would have preferred the lockout to last all season long rather than see important guys go down because their bodies aren’t allowed to recover normally.

  • http://www.thesmashbrothas.com zen garden

    they got more ball movement w/o rose

  • AsadSaleh3

    Ball movement is great. But at some point, every team needs a superstar. Especially in today’s league. They can’t beat Boston without Rose. No need to even talk about Miami now or the ECF. Mike Wilbon wrote a great piece about this. Rip knew this season was going to be wild. Can’t argue with Rip on this one.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/7868860/chicago-bulls-guard-derrick-rose-injury-caused-overloaded-schedule

  • http://www.huwlhopkins.com #6marjon

    Luol Deng just booked a vacation for the final week of May

  • 602Shorty

    Just so everyone knows: there are 3 different people who appear to be posting under the name bike. One is this moron, the other is some militant black dude, and there’s one that posts strictly basketball related comments. I’m guessing I’m the only one who sees this.

  • unknown

    rose out its over for the bulls. bulls dont really have shooters there not going to make it to the next round. there never going to the championship. everybody on the bulls is soft

  • 602Shorty

    A lot of these guys spent more time during the offseason and lockout on pick-up games than in the gym actually working out. If I were them I’d have been working on endurance & conditioning plus skills. I’m not saying Rose didn’t, but a lot of guys didn’t spend that time wisely. Blame whomever you want for the condensed schedule but it was expected. Everyone knew it was coming. The lockout wasn’t supposed to be an extended vaca. Some guys treated it that way. Also, I want to see the young athletic guys hone their skills more. Athleticism= short term success. Skills= longevity. Ask Kobe, who is still the games most skilled player at 33 after 15 seasons.

  • Nate C

    Howard: Adidas
    Rose: Adidas
    Billups: Adidas
    Shumpert: Adidas

    just saying

  • everynowhere

    ^^that looks like fun
    J. Lin: Nike
    R. Fernandez: Nike
    E. Maynor: Nike

    But seriously though…sh*t happens. The play d.rose got injured in was a routine jump stop for him. I can’t blame the coach, rose came back a little too early.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Yeah, that Adidas thing is irrelevant here. Rose didn’t play in any pickup games so those aren’t to blame either. Not having a real training camp and not being able to work out during the offseason at team facilities really hurt these guys. These guys and their bodies are creatures of habit. Disrupt the habit and pack in an unsual schedule and injuries will occur. Owners wanted to screw over the players. Players wanted to make as fair a deal as possible. The money grab caused both parties to do whatever they could to make sure they had a season. We’ve seen the results.

  • Nate C

    really? you compare Lin and a couple nobodies to the guys i listed. Nice, way to know your craft

  • 602Shorty

    You CANNOT blame the owners for the lack of work ethic the players apparently have. When someone wants to workout they do it. Lack of training camp can be attributed to the lockout, but to say that it’s the owners’ fault that they players couldn’t get into workout habits is total bs. A labor dispute has nothing to do with keeping fit until the season resumes. These are grown *ss men. They shouldn’t have to be told to stay in shape in case the season starts. They get paid to be professionals. It’s asinine to suggest the closed workout facilities prevented players from working out when the majority of them fly to cities different from their teams and work with private trainers.

  • 602Shorty

    Last time I checked LA only had two pro teams. Any other offseason it’s probably the biggest destination for NBA players to workout. Team facilities being closed is just the dumbest excuse for anything except actual training camp, which is more team centered. Endurance and conditioning are things each individual is responsible for.

  • everynowhere

    @nate C. so you wanted superstars? sorry none of them got season ending injuries THIS YEAR wearing nikes. oh and tell me how howard’s shoes made his back more injury prone? all i’m saying is…sh*t happens.

  • bike

    Last time I checked 602Shorty is 602 pounds heavs and is short as hell. Just saying.

  • AsadSaleh3

    The connection that needs to be made here is once players couldn’t contact let alone work out under the eye of their team staff, things changed. The owners are mostly to blame for the lockout. If they had let their greed go, the season would have started normally. It’s completely different when you’re working out on your own and when you’re with trained staff. Every summer these guys work out by themselves. And they also do work with their teams at the facilities. It is the same with football players. Peyton Manning couldn’t contact his team doctors during the lockout and it pushed back his recovery a little bit. Whether you believe it or not, the truth could be seen if you watched everyone play this season. You can say they’re grown men, but if you watched even the superstars play, you saw that they all needed what they normally have. They didn’t have it because of the lockout. Period.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Most of the superstars were fortunate enough to not get hurt because of their playing styles. The schedule didn’t have much of an effect on them except fatigue. But for a player like Rose who relies on both skill and God given talent with his explosiveness, he puts a lot of pressure on his ligaments and joints. It’s a sign of ignorance to say that some of these young guys are not skilled especially Rose. If one cannot see the skills he has in his game, he/she needs to become a fan of another sport. In a regular season, he’d have time to get the proper rest for his body. The Celtics took more than a month to get in rhythm, would you say that those guys aren’t hard workers? No, they just couldn’t get in proper game shape and game rhythm without a real training camp. To say that these guys should have all come into the season ready for back to back to back games without a normal camp is absolutely ridiculous. And to say act as if they are to blame for not being ready for this hectic season is also a load of garbage. Like they are used to playing so many games a week without any practices.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    WWWWHHHHYYYY?

  • 130623

    Injury happens! can’t blame shoes or anything else, it happened last night and guess what? It will happen again PERIOD!

  • Madbutta

    Adidas basketball is in bad shape. They will go hard in the draft. CrazyLight 2 is nice and they need them on the court, and not just on Jrue Holiday , haha

  • 602Shorty

    I never argued who was responsible for the lockout. That whole point is irrelevent. I also never said all of them weren’t skilled. You can’t win an argument by arguing points that were never made. Rose is skilled but he can stand to work on his shot more, amongst other things. Are you implying the Rose, Westbrook and other youung guys are so skilled that they don’t need work? Are you arguing that pure athleticism goes further than skill? I’m arguing self discipline and professionalism. You play into the stereotypes of ignorant, lazy, undisciplined NBA players when you try to excuse away a reason for not staying in shape. I find that extremely condescending. They all are more than capable. Most players do not even stay in the cities they play in during the offseason. They often have their own trainers. With or without the team facilities, the hardworking and professional players still work out. They go to Chicago, Florida, LA etc. Are you saying that NBA athletes are incapable of possessing a work ethic without the direction of their employers? It’s a ridiculous suggestion. Team facilities and trainers are a plus during the offseason, but they should not be pre-requisites for working on necessary components to being an NBA level player. You can’t get your body into shape, and you can’t get better skills-wise without initiative. Those desires should be innate. Any suggestion otherwise is ignorant horsesh*t.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Rose has been working on his shot every summer. It’s not like he stopped after he had his MVP season. All of these guys put in the work. on their skills. Bottom line, after watching this season, it’s clear that the schedule has impacted the players and it’s not their fault for getting injured. All of them, those who are injured and those who aren’t, did what they normally do and were in the shape they’d normally be in heading into a normal season and as soon as the lockout ended, things sped up tremendously. The main culprit is the brutal season. Richard Hamilton said it before the season and he was 100% right. You’re an idiot if you believe anything other than the fact that the players deserve none of the blame for not being able to push their bodies to the point where they should have been ready to play this crazy schedule.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Also, I never said that you said all of them weren’t skilled. I said that you seemed to believe that the young guys aren’t working on their skills when it’s obvious that they are. Read carefully buddy. I also never said that the owners were responsible for the players not being able to work out so I don’t know where you got that from. I said the owners were mainly responsible for the lockout which they were. The lockout clearly prevented teams from operating normally. Players were not ready for this hectic schedule not because of pickup games and not because they weren’t working on their skills. They weren’t ready because there was no way to get ready for this type of schedule. And I’ll add that most of the players who were playing in those pickup games had good if not great seasons. LeBron James played in a lot of them and I think he had an okay season. Guys got hurt not because they didn’t work on their endurance or conditioning. They got hurt because it was impossible to get their bodies into the shape they had to be in without a training camp or time between games like they would normally have.

  • 602Shorty

    You’re the one who needs to read better. I never mentioned anything about the lockout. I’m talking about endurance & conditioning plus skills. You’re delusional if you think they all put in adequate work on skills. John Wall even admitted he should’ve worked more on his skills than what he did this offseason. We’ve got guys like Lamar Odom more focused on reality tv than basketball. Who didn’t expect a lockout? Who didn’t expect a condensed season? You sound stupid right now. They all need to put in more work on skills. Conditioning, if done properly and consistently, would’ve helped. If you can’t admit that then you don’t need to be having this conversation. Obvio

  • AsadSaleh3

    Those ones who have gotten hurt did put in the work. This is about Rose. He put in the work. He got hurt because of the schedule and the toll it took on his body. Period. John Wall is one example but no one else who played in those charity games has said anything about wishing they wouldn’t have played. It doesn’t matter whether the condensed season was expected or not, guys were not going to be prepared for the schedule regardless of how much endurance or conditioning work they did. If the season had been stretched out more, it would have been alright. The fact that the games had to be played in a short amount of days is what wasn’t expected. It wouldn’t have helped them be ready for 3 games in 3 days. The only stupid one here is you if you think that running more during the offseason would have helped them play 3 games in 3 nights. It wasn’t the lack of work on conditioning/endurance. It was the schedule that they had to play.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Rip Hamilton, who is one of the most well conditioned players in the league evidenced by the way he runs around more screens than anyone in basketball, was hurt for most of the season. He expected injuries to come this season and he was right. Talk to him about your assertion that if he had just worked more on his endurance, he would have been fine.

  • 602Shorty

    This is about Rose? Who the f died and made you king of what people can comment on? I can comment generally about anything I want. If you don’t like it go whine about it elsewhere. Rip Hamilton is hurt damn near eveery season. So there goes that argument. It does matter whether the condensed season was expected or not. You can prepare more intensly when you have a heads up. Putting in the same amount of conditioning for an expected more brutal season is stupid. As with anything in life, you have a better chance at success when you have notice of an event. You’re arguing nonesense, like always.

  • Dj Taste

    Stay strong Rose!

  • AsadSaleh3

    Obviously, this dude has no ground or facts to argue anything effectively. The season is over and we all saw what happened. Guys who never get hurt, got hurt and missed significant time because of the schedule. And this fool can only talk about them conditioning themselves better as if he knows better than a guy who is one of the best conditioned athletes in the game and missed a majority of the season. I can see this guy telling Rip he should have known that the league would cram these games into a small time frame. Right because all the players knew that the season would start without a real training camp and they would have to play 3 games in 3 nights. Again, there was no way of them to predict that the season wouldn’t be stretched out even with the 66 games. No way to know that it would be in a short amount of days. But you stick to your simple minded idea that they should have just worked on their endurance more to prevent injuries that they wouldn’t have to worry about in a regularly scheduled season. Clearly, that works for you. GMs, other executives and players have all echoed the same sentiment about the schedule being the major cause for these injuries. But you’re smarter than all of them. I see it now.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Oh and uh…the post is about Derrick Rose. That’s why I said it was about his injury and other guys like Billups and Howard who haven’t been hurt like they were this season. Just in case you didn’t see the huge headline at the top of the page. Which is why I wondered why you went on your little tangent about guys not playing in pickup games when none of the guys who got hurt seriously this season really played in any pickup games. John Wall says he wishes he had worked on his game more and you somehow took that to mean that every player who played in those charity games should have worked on their games more also (as if you are 100% sure that they didn’t). The only guy you know of who didn’t work on his skills instead of playing in those games is John Wall. Just one guy. There is evidence showing that LeBron and Durant worked out by themselves and with each other while also playing in those games. You have nothing to stand on with anything you’re saying basically.

  • bike

    Cosign AsadSaleh3. 602Shorty does not know what he’s talking about. He eats BS for breakfast.

  • Justin G.

    Neither one of you is 100% right or wrong. You’re both right but I don’t understand how one can put it completely on the shortened season. Everyone played the same schedule and plenty somehow managed to make it through unscathed. You both have to be idiots not to see there is some validity to the combination of not training hard enough and the schedule. Bottom line, it was a freak accident and it happens. You can’t 100% blame either/or, Coach Thibs for leaving him in, or anything else. Injuries…just…happen

  • AQWORD

    ^^^^AMEN^^^

  • DreDay

    And so the bickering and “debating” continues.
    Everyone has all the answers.
    Get well soon DROSE.
    Go Bulls!!

  • AsadSaleh3

    Most of the players are smart guys when it comes to their bodies. My guess is that if there was a way for them to prepare themselves for this crazy schedule, most of them would have done it. There was no way. For a guy like Hamilton to predict these injuries before the season and then watch it happen, sorry, I have to roll with him on this. GMs, team executives and other players also saw it coming. How can one prop himself up to be an authority on this when they don’t play, coach and they’re not a GM? How do you train for 5 games in 7 nights?

  • AsadSaleh3

    Guys get into game shape during training camp and the preseason mostly. They didn’t have a real training camp or preseason, so they had no time to get into game shape until the games actually started. Trying to play 3 games back to back to back without being in game shape is extremely tough for any of them to do. It left their bodies vulnerable to injuries that they normally would have avoided in a normal season. I can’t agree with the idea that the major stars who got hurt didn’t train hard enough. Look at Dwight Howard’s body, does it look like dude didn’t do what he could to be ready?

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