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Wednesday, May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 am  |  45 responses

Kobe Bryant: ‘I Don’t Take Charges’


During his pow-wow with the press yesterday, Kobe touched on a number of subjects, including his reluctance to take charges, and Bryant offered his thoughts on FlopGate 2012. Per the AP and ESPN: “Based on his own analysis of NBA greats from Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, Bryant believes there’s too much of a health risk to get run over by an opponent and go crashing to the floor repeatedly. ‘I learned from my predecessors, man,’ Bryant said. ‘Pippen had a (messed) up back taking charges. Bird had a (messed) up back taking charges. I said, `I’m not taking charges.’ I figured that (stuff) out at an early age.’ […] ‘I’ve seen them take charges and lay there with a messed-up back. I’ve seen Michael not take one … charge and he’s healthy his whole career, and the same thing with Magic,’ Bryant said. ‘I might not be the smartest guy in the room but I can figure that (stuff) out.’ […] ‘There’s a difference [between taking a charge and flopping]. We all know what flopping is when we see it,’ Bryant said. ‘The stuff that you see is where guys aren’t really getting hit at all and are just flailing around like a fish out of water. That’s kind of like, where are your balls at?’ Lakers coach Mike Brown said that it will be difficult for the league to enforce some sort of anti-flopping policy, however. ‘It is [a problem],’ Brown said. ‘I don’t know how you clean it up though because everything is a judgment call and when it happens, and it happens at the speed that it does, how do you clean that up? Because, it’s human error. You see somebody get hit, a lot of times you’re told to make a strong call. You’re told to be strong with your calls and so you’re going to hit that whistle real hard. You hit that whistle real hard and by then, it might be too late. It’s like, man, he might not have done that but it’s too late.’”

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  • vtrobot

    “Where are your balls at?” Ha ha. Kobe is pretty funny lately.

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    Kobe “Unnatural Basketball Move” Bryant talking about dudes flailing?

  • 602shorty

    Same thing I got into an argument with that Asad clown for. A pro is backing up my remarks on the effects of wearing down your body have on long term health.

  • sikwithit5

    Now a whole generation of HS ballers are gonna refuse to take charges….

  • JMM

    Is that a bad thing? I’d rather see people just play good defence rather than getting their bodies in position and falling down constantly.

  • http://slamonline.com samoaninlondon

    Kobe doesn’t take NO for an answer in Colorado based Rehab Centres either…

    (international a.k.a correct way of spelling centre btw)

  • sikwithit5

    Beating your man to the spot and hitting the deck is good defense

  • T-Money

    so.. kobe is not willing to put his body on the line but then is asking others where their balls at? ok

  • riggs

    oh you mean when you throw your hands up when someone barely touches you while youre shooting kobe? yes thats called a flop. Also, when you used to kick your foot out trying to get a foul? thats a flop too. Just to clear things up since youre not the smartest guy in the room.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    @JMM check sikwithit15′s post, my answer exactly, taking charges is part of playing good defense. flopping is a diferent story (not defending that)

  • hah

    ahhh the hate from the young basketball followers.

  • AQWORD

    Word. You just get them filed against you.

  • ClydeSays

    It’s a strategy. Not every player can do it. It takes timing and smarts. I understand Kobe’s reason for not doing it, but it doesn’t mean it’s a bad basketball play.

  • Omar

    I don’t want Kobe, LBJ, etc taking charges if I’m their coach.

  • RunNGun

    Kobe doesn’t take charges and will soon be eliminated. Book it!

  • patrick

    Smart.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kobe flops all the time on offense. Y’all realize this, right?

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    …he has some kind of a point though..

  • http://www.espn.com paulh

    You’re right AP, Kobe flails rather than flops. Same as every other guy In the league.@Omar anyone who runs Into Lebron Is generally coming off worse than he Is.

  • Drig

    Allen, Kobe flails. He doesn’t flop ala Griffin, Paul etc. Nor does he make WWE look legit while flailing. I do understand what Kobe’s saying about taking charges but I haven’t heard of Fish ever having back problems and he played almost his entire career with Kobe. It’s a good savvy defensive play that SHOULD be in every defender’s playbook.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Flailing is flopping. If you’re exaggerating contact, you’re flopping. I’m not saying Kobe is alone in his offensive flopping, hell it’s an epidemic in the entire League, but he does it all the time on pretty much every shot. And he verbally flops with all of his yelling too.
    Defenders flop because offensive players flop. And vice versa. You can’t just concede an obvious advantage like that to the other team.

  • http://www.fullc0urtpress.com KHOLIDAY

    You’re right Kobe, you dont take charges, you beat em! Then buy your wifey a fat rock after! Niiiiiiice!

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    I have no problem with dudes taking charges, but sliding under/in front a guy at the last minute and falling is NOT good defense. Ever since they put that charge/block semi circle down, guys have gotten incredibly lazy on defense, it hasn’t made it better. Now everyone just runs and make sure their feet are in front of the line before they fall. This is the NBA not college, guys shouldn’t be awared a charge call stepping in front of a guy that’s driving the lane and dishing. There was one call last night where Haslem clearly leaned to the side to get the call and the ref feel for it. Kerr even called the ref out saying it was a blown call.

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    A tad off topic, but I take any chance I get to rant about that stupid line.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Miami Joe

    If I’m playing ball at a park and a dude calls me for charging, I’ll laugh at him, step on him and then spit on him for having no balls. Plus, there’s no charging in black top ball. Real talk.

  • shutup

    verbally flop? taking some literary liberties with that one. lol. <–i didnt really lol just thought I had to add that so people could tell I was joking and not really going at you.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You know what I’m talking about right? The yelling and screaming on every drive to the basket or jumpshot. Wade is horrible about this too. And don’t even mention Popcorn Muscles in Chicago.
    I’m tired of players complaining so much. They need to bring back those quick technicals.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com PutUrMomma2Wrk

    Floppers should be placed in a penalty box like hockey and not allowed to play for 5 game minutes have passed.

  • LP

    BEATING your man to the spot IS GOOD DEFENSE. However, guys are running under defenders and falling back as soon as they are brushed. 90% of charges I see are flops. I think it should be clear cut: If the offensive guy is trying to avoid hitting the DEFENDER, it should be a no call, or a blocking foul. Most of the time, the offensive guy sees the defender, and tries to avoid the contact, but the defender adjust his body to get a charge, and then FLOPS! CHARGE! and thats 5 on Wade…

  • JoeMaMa

    @Allenp: that’s what happens in a star driven league. I still haven’t made peace with it. Techs don’t even do it, either: the players still whine, just not at the refs. We need (unrealistic suggestion coming) a divider between the fans and players so they can sort their grievances out without any fighting spilling into the stands. Floppers will get nailed, stars will learn to shut their mouths…eh.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    In my opinion, the top six offensive floppers in the League are Chris Paul, Kobe, Paul Pierce, Wade and Blake.
    If I had to rank the two worst, it would be Paul and Wade.

  • barnabusb

    People seem to think that playing good D means getting a steal or drawing a charge. Sometimes playing good D is just forcing the offensive player to take a more difficult shot than they want. Get them out of their comfort zone, out of their rhythm, force them to make a bad decision. Defense isn’t all about completely stopping your guy or taking charges. Kobe doesn’t get called for a lot of fouls because he’s not too obvious with his hands on D, but he moves well and gets up on guys and forces them to take tough shots. When was the last time someone torched Kobe?

  • Drig

    Allen, am assuming you’re only counting the star players in the L. BTW, just wondering if you think Dirk flops a lot as well?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    yes, Dirk was supposed to be number six. I left him off by accident. He flops constantly on his jumpshots.
    And I only used star players because most scrubs don’t flop on offense because they can’t get the calls.

  • feez_22

    I like that kobe doesn’t take charges. I hate that kobe flails like a you know what after every jumper. Pulls up, contact or not he will do that swing arm back crap and stumble while he lands to make the refs think there was contact or he’ll just fall down. When he goes to the paint, he will do the exact same thing if a big man is in front and when he doesn’t get the call, he chides the ref like he should have. Kobe flops all the time offensively. Defensively, nope. Thats because on defense, he’s allowed to grab his opponents. its odd but it still happens. Lucky for OKC, they just screen & roll him and since the lakers chose not 2 hedge they just drive right by or pull up in his face. But ya… Kobe flops. Lebron flops. Rose flops (Rose snaps his head back on no contact on a bunch of drives 2 the basket), wade flops, bosh flops, pau flops, booz flops, durant flops (the flail), chris paul flops… Maybe the only star that doesn’t flop is russel westbrook. i don’t really see him try 2 flop honestly.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Westbrook flops, but not nearly as much as many other cats.
    It used to be that Manu was the king of flopping, but honestly, other players have taken that crown from him.
    Wade and Paul are the undisputed kings in my opinion because of how much they handle the ball and how often they flop. And they are flopper/pouters. The absolute worst combination.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Just a matter of time feez. The epidemic will reach Wussel also. He’ll be flailing in no time at all.

  • MAS

    Should Pau take charges KB? How about Bynum? So can we start calling Kobe “Black Soft Mamba” now?

  • Danny

    The problem is that to get a charge called on your opponent, you have to fall down. When I played in HS, I was a big guy (I lettered in football). I would take charges, but refused to take the accompanying fall. I would stand straight as a board and let the 100-pound pipsqueak punk point gaurds bounce off me and hit the deck. It didn’t matter if I had position, that I hadn’t moved a muscle, or that he dipped his shoulder into me- he fell down so they called a foul on me.

    If you want to get the call, you have to stand on your heels so that you fall back when hit. If officials would call a charg anytime the offensive player initiated the contact, regardless of its effect on the defender, we wouldn’t have this issue.

  • @boweezy24

    If Ya Played Good Defense You Wouldn’t Have To Take Charges.

  • beastwork

    I was football player 1st, but developed enough hoop skills to make the team. My coaches were trying to teach me the “art” of taking a charge. They wanted me to fall to the floor after the slightest bit of contact. Something in my DNA would not let me do it. I would give guys forearm shivers in the drill. “if you I’m gonna take a charge then you need to knock me over” is what i would say. I was the best defender on all my organized teams and still am the best defender in most pick up games today. I don’t take frickin’ charges.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You don’t have to take charges to be a good defender.
    But if you want to create more turnovers, you’d be wise to take charges.

  • Top$helf

    The worst thing in the game of basketball is 7 footers taking charges

  • http://Juanm.garcia@comcast.net NYPlaya

    Taking charges is for poosies. Move your feet gud dam it!

  • http://bedotwater.bandcamp.com BE.water

    ^ if you move your feet, you should be in position to take said charge. sooo…..

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