Tuesday, May 1st, 2012 at 3:20 pm  |  91 responses

Report: Amar’e Stoudemire Out For First Round

After punching a glass case containing a fire extinguisher Monday, Amar’e Stoudemire has been ruled out for the rest of the Knicks’ first-round series against the Heat, according to the New York Times. There’s good news, though—the Knicks’ forward suffered no major ligament, tendon or nerve damage.

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  • Mike Mihalow

    So he’s done for the season. What a complete moron.

  • CubicleWorker


  • Kevin


  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Rondo MWP and Amare.
    The Three Brain Dead Amigos

  • Jerome

    Not kosher Stat, not one bit. What happened to getting back to dominating?

  • Magic fan

    Tantrum tsk tsk

  • http://twitter.com/niyosimba niyosimba


  • slamfan4life

    i get where hes comin from but cmonnnn man

  • robb

    The Knicks never had a chance anyway, but it was stupid. He’s gonna learn from this.

  • Dylan

    They did better without him when Carmelo was scoring like 30 a game

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    jerome, when was he dominating?

  • lakernation

    KNICKS will win this series now!

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    if anyone remembers greg graham i have a story about him that is actaally very similar to this that i saw up and close, at least the aftermath of it

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    He probably did that to rid himself of playing a losing fight. lol

  • Bt

    Double Ewing theory time – bulls Knicks conference finals

  • Jerome

    @Spit: He said he was gonna “Get back to dominating” earlier this season.

  • http://Slamonline.com 1982

    You spelled Knicks wrong.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    my bad jerome, then he was the one tripping not u

  • http://www.yahoo.com berkamore

    You give a guy $100 million and that’s what you get? The NBA is a crazy business. LOL.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Frustrated since the Melo trade. He went from being an MVP candidate with Felton giving him the ball to Melo taking his shots away and Chandler occupying his space. No reason to throw a fit. But I understand his frustration.

  • 23

    Asad, i very much thought that adding carmelo ruined something great in new york. danilo, wilson chandler, felton and amare + fields were a young group of guys on the verge of making some noise. and they played with TONS of POSITIVE energy. cant say i saw the same thing after that melo trade.

  • 23

    altho i do understand that new york wanted a TRUE superstar. and a “hometown” guy. and carmelo is obviously the knicks only chance at success now. so who knows..

  • 23


  • FnF

    Gon’ Fishin’

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The thing is, the Knicks could have had Deron Williams instead of Melo. That team would be a lot more formidable if they would have had patience. Even just not trading for Melo and signing him in the off-season instead of gutting the entire roster.
    The worst thing was extending his contract though, that was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    There was a time when this guy was unstoppable offensively. True story, I kid you not.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    This lock-out shortened season is getting ridiculous with the injuries it has caused. lol, Amare WTF?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    when he’s motivated that time is called the regular season

  • bike

    Some day, years from now, Amar’e will look back on this and not think this was very funny.

  • nbaNw8

    That was dumb Amare.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI MeloMan15

    The truth is, he’s just not a very good player… Can’t play with another scorer on the team, cant play with another big man on the team.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI MeloMan15

    Sure, if it’s him playing centre with a good pg, he’ll play better… but his lack of defense and rebounding would kill you if he was your only big… and you would lose regardless

  • Dav

    So … he’s out two games, then.

  • fruizm

    @Jerome….I remember that, too…Before the season started he was like “my body fat is down to 8%…Im a BEAST!”…..yeah OK!

  • Michelle

    There are no words for this idiot

  • Greg

    another day, another drama with the New York Dicks (props to Lin though)…ho hum…

  • http://wikipedia.org Eddie1

    I burst into tears yo! #Tacobelldoritosnachoscommercialreferenceiamscaredoftheilluminati

  • AsadSaleh3

    Melo was born in NY, but to me, your hometown is where you grew up so that’s Baltimore. I think they played that hometown guy thing too much. Donnie Walsh and Amar’e were both skeptical of that trade but Jim Dolan forced it. Now, they’re worse than they were before. Melo is a great player, but he’s just a scorer. That team before the trade were improving and growing together. Great chemistry. Clearly defined roles. They screwed up.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @MeloMan15 The problem isn’t Amar’e, it’s your guy, Melo. All he can do is shoot. Occasionally, he’ll make a good pass. But that’s who he is. He shoots. A lot. It’s hard to play with him. Amar’e's lack of defense is matched by Melo’s. Let’s not act like Carmelo is blameless here. Amar’e was fine before he got there. Hasn’t been the same since.

  • blakos

    Asad, Agree But Melos D of Late > Amares D

  • js

    I thought he’d been missing from the first round anyway.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @blakos You’re right. But I wonder why Melo all of a sudden wants to play defense for Woodson, but not D’Antoni when he was head coach. Is Woodson saying things now that he wasn’t saying as assistant coach when he was brought there specifically to be a defensive coach? I doubt it.
    Usually, if you’re going to get a star player to pair with a star big man that you already have, you get a PG or SG. That’s why they played so well when Melo was out and Lin came in distributing the ball to Stoudemire and the shooters that they have. People were wondering what would happen when Melo returned. Then Lin went down and it’s back to Melo shooting often and rare ball movement. The fact that Dolan thought it was a good idea to grab another star frontcourt player is a good representation of his incompetence as an owner.

  • MeloMan15

    ok… i think u guys are forgetting the last month of the season. No amare, melo leading, 3rd best record in the league. Atleast with Melo he can depend on himself… Amare needs two thins to be successful, a soild pg and no centre clogging up his space inside… in new york he has neither

  • MeloMan15

    also, this is the second post-season in a row in which Melo has been left out to dry by amare. Last season with his pre-game injury game 2 and this season with his post-game meltdown in game 2. Atleast Melo is there tryna make it work

  • Fino

    The Knicks are
    much talent +h no direction + bunch off hot tempers = disaster
    Amari left the suns blaming his past troubles in the playoffs on nash what a joke I wonder who his blaming it on now?

  • LA Huey

    “The Knicks Are Back”

  • http://www.starting5.com.au NM30

    He’s out for 3 games in other words

  • Danger Powers

    bike smells like gorilla juice all day erryday

  • AsadSaleh3

    All big men needs PGs. Melo was fine without Amar’e because it allowed him to shoot as much as he wanted without any other star on the floor. He plays the same way regardless. It’s smart to give Amar’e some shots though when he’s playing so that’s why they struggle when they play together. Melo is going to shoot, period. No one knows what Melo needs because he has never expanded his game. He doesn’t play a game that allows a team to be competitive enough to play for a championship. If he involved his teammates more, he would be a phenomenal player. The reason Amar’e didn’t want that trade to happen was because he knew Melo was an isolation shoot first and second kind of player. It was a bad idea to hand that team over to him. The one season his team got far in the playoffs it was because of the leadership of Chauncey Billups. With Lin and STAT in the lineup without Melo, they ran the pick and roll very well. I’d like to see how this team plays when they’re fully healthy with Lin. Without him, the team is prone to give the ball to Melo and watch. Guys watch because they know after a while that they don’t need to move because it’s likely they won’t get the ball.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Amare beasted with Shaq.
    He had his best year with Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion on his squad.
    He had the Knicks at .500 and in the playoffs before getting hurt.
    Amare has tons of flaws, but he’s not the guy who came over and screwed up team chemistry. he’s gotten his buckets and stats with multiple different point guards.
    You know whose been a problem child most of his career? You know who has repeatedly failed to lead his team? You know who hasn’t worked on the areas clearly outlined as weaknesses.
    Yeah, you know who. And it ain’t Amare.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    This is the stupidest thing I have ever witness … Melo is not the problem for this team it is Amar’e … He has zero defensive accountability the man left Chalmers open for three in the corner … I fully expect LeBron to dominate Melo but I would like to think Melo’s rebounding and offence makes up for his lack of ‘D’ … Amar’e gets like 4 rebounds a game and is the power forward. I understand Tyson Chandler is there but the Lakers big men both rebound … the Clippers Big Men Both Rebound … Memphis whole dang team rebounds. further more JR Smith is there best pick and roll player because he actually has a jumper and they don’t run that with him to often i think the thought is he will probably shoot too much. The Knicks are done for the foreseeable future!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Dude, Amare, c’mon son…when you need to take your anger out, don’t break glass, just kick a trashcan. Throw some napkins, ain’t like you won’t be able to pay the two dollar damages.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @Allenp Correct on all points.
    Amar’e has never been a great rebounder but he has averaged around 9 every season which isn’t bad at all. What he does very well is pick and roll, pick and pop. It was good enough to help Nash win one of his two MVPs and get the Suns 6 winning seasons out of the 8 seasons he was there (only played 3 games in one of their winning seasons because of injury). He and Nash were in the Western Conference Finals his final year in Phoenix. Melo rebounds especially on the offensive boards usually because he’s getting the rebound from a shot that he put up himself. It is idiotic to say that JR Smith is a better pick and roll player than Jeremy Lin only because he can shoot. Lin can shoot also. But his first thought is what it should be…look for the player who just rolled who is most likely open.

  • Josh

    could have just been phrased ‘out for two games’

  • abaci

    I’m a glass half full guy. Amar’e is a guy half full of glass.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    @asad … you are right about Lin being a better pick and roll option but he is not playing currently … and mike bibby is a ghost out there they should not even play him … I don’t even understand how this happens; Melo is terrible on defense a lot but even he takes the risk of attempting to guard people … I don’t understand who could coach this dang team at all they need to try and sign Chauncey back or someone with some leadership they are like the Jailblazers over here with out all the drug usage

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    However this might actually work out better because Melo is an average defender at the Powerforward position and the crossmatches might help the Knicks out

  • bails1

    You know of course it was a terrible decision to punch the glass. However, one thing I haven’t heard anyone mention is Amare’s brother just passed away. I’m sure dude has a lot going on and probably isn’t himself. He will bounce back.

  • MeloMan15

    This just in: Tyson Chandler has reportedly won the Defenisve Player of the Year award

  • AsadSaleh3

    I questioned the decision to amnesty Billups myself, but Tyson Chandler has worked out and will apparently be named the Defensive Player of the Year tomorrow. Lin will have to grow into being a leader, but Billups is the kind of PG who can tell Melo no when he wants the ball at times. Lin can’t do that. Melo does well at the 4 and Amar’e does well at the 5. But Chandler is obviously the 5. It leaves Amar’e in a tough spot. And Mike Woodson won’t bring him off the bench which would be a great idea. That way, he would be the top offensive option on that second team. And of course, none of it matters now because dude foolishly punched glass and won’t be playing.

  • MeloMan15

    Ok, first of all… @Asad… no, not all big men need a pg, atleast not an all-star calibre one. as long as someone gets them the ball in their zone they should be able to operate. Amare needs to roll of a pic to operate. 2nd, if Amare could “beast” with an old shaq on his squad, why couldnt he do the same with a younger tyson?

  • MeloMan15

    And Melo hasn’t been a problem child his whole career at all. He played as the leader of a strong team in an even stronger western conference for most of hus career. Last time I checked, amare was always being lead by someone, weather it be marbury in the early years or nash in his mvp years.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    @MeloMan 15 I am not sure Melo lead all those teams … George Karl is a wonderful coach I think that he masterminded some of that success for Melo … True enough Melo did put the ball in the whole but if you look at the offensive sets like the back door lobs Melo used to get; that’s has to do with a good coach and a point guard with instincts ….

  • http://slamonline.com Billy Sunday

    amnesty clause stoudemire!!!!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Trade Melo for Deron. BOOK IT!!

  • AsadSaleh3

    Wait…not all big men need a good/great PG or SG to win? How many titles did Shaq win without a great guard? Penny Hardaway, Derek Fisher, Jason Williams, Gary Payton, Steve Nash, LeBron James. Shaq needed all of those guys. Who gets big men the ball mostly? Guards mostly point guards. Melo does it for himself…which is why he’s been called a ballhog many times. He can create for himself, true. It’s creating for others that he has always had a problem with. When he was the most successful, he was led by Chauncey Billups to the WCF. He led the Nuggets nowhere before Billups arrived. When Iverson got traded there, George Karl was happy because finally Melo could learn how to play to win every night. Those were Karl’s exact words. Melo can play with anyone, but not because he can involve everyone. It’s because regardless of who he’s playing with, like I said before, he’s going to shoot the ball a lot. He’s not changing his game for anyone. Look at the PGs Melo has had when he has had the most success…Andre Miller and Chauncey Billups. Two above average PGs that Melo needed. He is better when he has someone who can give him the ball in catch and shoot situations rather than getting the ball and dribbling it many times before shooting while his teammates watch. All big men need an above average PG or SG to play with in order to win. Can’t knock Amar’e for playing with Nash. They were one of the all-time greats with the pick and roll. And he and Felton were developing a lot of chemistry last season before the trade.

  • abaci

    @AsadSaleh3 Shaq didnt win a title with Penny Hardaway, Steve Nash, or Lebron James. And Derek Fisher nor Jason Williams is a great point guard.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Derek and Jason were good point guards. Jason Williams along with Gary Payton as his backup won a championship with Shaq. Notice I said good/great guards. Shaq got to the Finals with Penny, I call that success. Steve Nash helped to revitalize his career a little in Phoenix along with the training staff they had. Great point guard. LeBron is a great passer. He’s listed as a small forward but he’s always been the de facto point guard on his teams. Big men need great passers. My original comment was all big men need PGs. I then said if not a PG, then at least a great two guard. No big man does it by himself. That was the point I was making to refute the idea that big men don’t need PGs who can get them the ball in spots where they can do what they do best.

  • MeloMan15

    thank you abaci…

  • AsadSaleh3

    Bottom line, to suggest that any power forward or center isn’t that good because he needs someone to get him the ball is an incredibly stupid idea to put forth. The only player on any team that doesn’t need someone to give them the ball is the point guard because they are normally the primary ballhandlers. Even Melo, as I said before, needs a guy to get him the ball and he is much better off that way evidenced by the run the Nuggets had with Billups running the team. If you’re an All-Star big man, you need an All-Star guard to play with in order to get to at least the Conference Finals. To say that Amar’e is somehow not a great power forward because he operates well in the pick and roll is foolish. He and Nash were unstoppable in the pick and roll. They pick and rolled their way to many winning seasons and to within two games of the NBA Finals two seasons ago. He and Felton pick and rolled so much that Amar’e was an MVP candidate before the trade last season. How is that a bad thing for a big man to be able to do?

  • Da-Meat_Hook

    I would say the Jason Williams that played on that championship Heat squad was an average starting pg at best…

  • MeloMan15

    dog… you’re an idiot. we’re not sying that hes bad because he can play pick n roll ball… he’s bad cuz he can ONLy play pick n roll ball… he cant get himself a shot, or he struggles to anyways

  • AsadSaleh3

    Nah, he was above average. A better all around PG than he ever was in Sacramento or Memphis. More polished and under control. His stats weren’t the best because he shared duties with GP but he was much more of a complete player at that point in his career. His shooting percentage was as good as it ever had been. A little more than a solid PG and what was not average at all was his vision and passing ability.

  • Da-Meat_Hook

    Average starting pg to me is someone who can’t crack the top 12 pgs in the L . . . He was definitely solid, but I’m not even sure he was a top 15 pg at that point.

  • Rainman

    Moron. This is why kids hould go to College.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @MeloMan15 Dog, you’re not bright enough to see that the dude in your name is completely one dimensional? All he can do is shoot. Yet you’re talking trash about Amar’e because you think all he can do is play pick and roll (which isn’t even true)? Amar’e can square up defenders and go past them with the dribble. The most frustrating thing about Melo is he’s not interested really in getting his teammates shots and he is much better when someone is creating shots for him, not when he’s dribbling and creating his own shots. Your guy could learn from STAT. Stop dribbling so much in isolation and let the team move the ball so that he can get his shots in the flow of the offense. No need to take so many contested shots with Amar’e on the floor. Melo can get himself a shot. Great. He won’t win anything until he learns how to get his teammates shots. He can’t which is part of the reason why STAT struggles to play with him.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @Da-Meat_Hook Understood. I just wouldn’t call Jason Williams average only because he still had certain skills at that point that were above average.

  • Waggle

    I think he subconsciously did this because he knew they were going to lose anyways, and did not want to be associated with that failure for whatever reason

  • http://slamonline.com Jones

    Should’ve just shoved a ref instead. Worked out well for Rondo, didn’t it?

  • Zabbah

    The Knicks are back!


    I DON’T SEE WHY MOST OF YALL ARE GETTING YOUR N.Y. g strings in a twist. Aight Miami. Its time to dispose of this mess.

  • Yesse

    It’s not like they were going to win the series anyway, lol.

  • RickyRude

    I hope for some odd reason that this is blessing in disguise for the Knicks and that they could somehow make this series more of a challenge for Miami… I want to see Melo mature and exhibit pure dominance like he’s shown glimpse of in the regular season…

  • L

    So disappointed at Stoudamire. The guy can score but doesn’t do anything else : no defense, not much rebounding and has become just a ball stopper. I think he’s better suited as 6th man primary option on the second unit and leave the offensive load and space to operate to Melo on the first unit.
    Now with this injury he has added stupidity to his overall uneffectiveness. Damn it 100Mil for real..L

  • Phillip

    Sad. He might regret it for life. But he has learnt a valuable lesson, hasn’t he? Patience and defence win championships.

  • http://slamonline Jimbo

    Which means he’s out for the remainder of the playoffs for the Knicks.

  • MeloMan15

    Melo can’t square up? Melo can’t pass? clearly you don’t watch ball… Melo takes it to the hole, he’s a much better passer than amare, he’s also a better rebounder for his position and recently has been playing better D. This series he’s going up against probably the best wing defender in the league… who has amare went up against? Chris Bosh! A dude who wears panties… I’m sorry bro, the problem is clearly stat

  • MeloMan15

    I”m not saying melo is the best player in the league… ofcourse he has holes in his game. But Amare is the one who needs to play better for us to win… and because of his stupid dislike for fire extinguishers, he won’t be able to perform, yet again

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    it’s funny how it’s either Amare or Melo’s fault. I would like to say there’s plenty of blames to go around.
    plus the bottom line is, you can’t fit two squares into two round holes. they just don’t work no matter how you try.
    Knicks: back to overpaying for pieces that don’t work. but we all already knew that last year. thanks, dolan.

  • http://www.dimemag.com biggaveli

    ^ ditto Knicks future are bleek at best They over paid for pieces not franchise players. now they forever 1rst knocks outs at best lol..