Tuesday, May 1st, 2012 at 3:20 pm  |  91 responses

Report: Amar’e Stoudemire Out For First Round


After punching a glass case containing a fire extinguisher Monday, Amar’e Stoudemire has been ruled out for the rest of the Knicks’ first-round series against the Heat, according to the New York Times. There’s good news, though—the Knicks’ forward suffered no major ligament, tendon or nerve damage.

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Amare beasted with Shaq.
    He had his best year with Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion on his squad.
    He had the Knicks at .500 and in the playoffs before getting hurt.
    Amare has tons of flaws, but he’s not the guy who came over and screwed up team chemistry. he’s gotten his buckets and stats with multiple different point guards.
    You know whose been a problem child most of his career? You know who has repeatedly failed to lead his team? You know who hasn’t worked on the areas clearly outlined as weaknesses.
    Yeah, you know who. And it ain’t Amare.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    This is the stupidest thing I have ever witness … Melo is not the problem for this team it is Amar’e … He has zero defensive accountability the man left Chalmers open for three in the corner … I fully expect LeBron to dominate Melo but I would like to think Melo’s rebounding and offence makes up for his lack of ‘D’ … Amar’e gets like 4 rebounds a game and is the power forward. I understand Tyson Chandler is there but the Lakers big men both rebound … the Clippers Big Men Both Rebound … Memphis whole dang team rebounds. further more JR Smith is there best pick and roll player because he actually has a jumper and they don’t run that with him to often i think the thought is he will probably shoot too much. The Knicks are done for the foreseeable future!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Dude, Amare, c’mon son…when you need to take your anger out, don’t break glass, just kick a trashcan. Throw some napkins, ain’t like you won’t be able to pay the two dollar damages.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @Allenp Correct on all points.
    Amar’e has never been a great rebounder but he has averaged around 9 every season which isn’t bad at all. What he does very well is pick and roll, pick and pop. It was good enough to help Nash win one of his two MVPs and get the Suns 6 winning seasons out of the 8 seasons he was there (only played 3 games in one of their winning seasons because of injury). He and Nash were in the Western Conference Finals his final year in Phoenix. Melo rebounds especially on the offensive boards usually because he’s getting the rebound from a shot that he put up himself. It is idiotic to say that JR Smith is a better pick and roll player than Jeremy Lin only because he can shoot. Lin can shoot also. But his first thought is what it should be…look for the player who just rolled who is most likely open.

  • Josh

    could have just been phrased ‘out for two games’

  • abaci

    I’m a glass half full guy. Amar’e is a guy half full of glass.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    @asad … you are right about Lin being a better pick and roll option but he is not playing currently … and mike bibby is a ghost out there they should not even play him … I don’t even understand how this happens; Melo is terrible on defense a lot but even he takes the risk of attempting to guard people … I don’t understand who could coach this dang team at all they need to try and sign Chauncey back or someone with some leadership they are like the Jailblazers over here with out all the drug usage

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    However this might actually work out better because Melo is an average defender at the Powerforward position and the crossmatches might help the Knicks out

  • bails1

    You know of course it was a terrible decision to punch the glass. However, one thing I haven’t heard anyone mention is Amare’s brother just passed away. I’m sure dude has a lot going on and probably isn’t himself. He will bounce back.

  • MeloMan15

    This just in: Tyson Chandler has reportedly won the Defenisve Player of the Year award

  • AsadSaleh3

    I questioned the decision to amnesty Billups myself, but Tyson Chandler has worked out and will apparently be named the Defensive Player of the Year tomorrow. Lin will have to grow into being a leader, but Billups is the kind of PG who can tell Melo no when he wants the ball at times. Lin can’t do that. Melo does well at the 4 and Amar’e does well at the 5. But Chandler is obviously the 5. It leaves Amar’e in a tough spot. And Mike Woodson won’t bring him off the bench which would be a great idea. That way, he would be the top offensive option on that second team. And of course, none of it matters now because dude foolishly punched glass and won’t be playing.

  • MeloMan15

    Ok, first of all… @Asad… no, not all big men need a pg, atleast not an all-star calibre one. as long as someone gets them the ball in their zone they should be able to operate. Amare needs to roll of a pic to operate. 2nd, if Amare could “beast” with an old shaq on his squad, why couldnt he do the same with a younger tyson?

  • MeloMan15

    And Melo hasn’t been a problem child his whole career at all. He played as the leader of a strong team in an even stronger western conference for most of hus career. Last time I checked, amare was always being lead by someone, weather it be marbury in the early years or nash in his mvp years.

  • http://slamonline.com J Du Bois

    @MeloMan 15 I am not sure Melo lead all those teams … George Karl is a wonderful coach I think that he masterminded some of that success for Melo … True enough Melo did put the ball in the whole but if you look at the offensive sets like the back door lobs Melo used to get; that’s has to do with a good coach and a point guard with instincts ….

  • http://slamonline.com Billy Sunday

    amnesty clause stoudemire!!!!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Trade Melo for Deron. BOOK IT!!

  • AsadSaleh3

    Wait…not all big men need a good/great PG or SG to win? How many titles did Shaq win without a great guard? Penny Hardaway, Derek Fisher, Jason Williams, Gary Payton, Steve Nash, LeBron James. Shaq needed all of those guys. Who gets big men the ball mostly? Guards mostly point guards. Melo does it for himself…which is why he’s been called a ballhog many times. He can create for himself, true. It’s creating for others that he has always had a problem with. When he was the most successful, he was led by Chauncey Billups to the WCF. He led the Nuggets nowhere before Billups arrived. When Iverson got traded there, George Karl was happy because finally Melo could learn how to play to win every night. Those were Karl’s exact words. Melo can play with anyone, but not because he can involve everyone. It’s because regardless of who he’s playing with, like I said before, he’s going to shoot the ball a lot. He’s not changing his game for anyone. Look at the PGs Melo has had when he has had the most success…Andre Miller and Chauncey Billups. Two above average PGs that Melo needed. He is better when he has someone who can give him the ball in catch and shoot situations rather than getting the ball and dribbling it many times before shooting while his teammates watch. All big men need an above average PG or SG to play with in order to win. Can’t knock Amar’e for playing with Nash. They were one of the all-time greats with the pick and roll. And he and Felton were developing a lot of chemistry last season before the trade.

  • abaci

    @AsadSaleh3 Shaq didnt win a title with Penny Hardaway, Steve Nash, or Lebron James. And Derek Fisher nor Jason Williams is a great point guard.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Derek and Jason were good point guards. Jason Williams along with Gary Payton as his backup won a championship with Shaq. Notice I said good/great guards. Shaq got to the Finals with Penny, I call that success. Steve Nash helped to revitalize his career a little in Phoenix along with the training staff they had. Great point guard. LeBron is a great passer. He’s listed as a small forward but he’s always been the de facto point guard on his teams. Big men need great passers. My original comment was all big men need PGs. I then said if not a PG, then at least a great two guard. No big man does it by himself. That was the point I was making to refute the idea that big men don’t need PGs who can get them the ball in spots where they can do what they do best.

  • MeloMan15

    thank you abaci…

  • AsadSaleh3

    Bottom line, to suggest that any power forward or center isn’t that good because he needs someone to get him the ball is an incredibly stupid idea to put forth. The only player on any team that doesn’t need someone to give them the ball is the point guard because they are normally the primary ballhandlers. Even Melo, as I said before, needs a guy to get him the ball and he is much better off that way evidenced by the run the Nuggets had with Billups running the team. If you’re an All-Star big man, you need an All-Star guard to play with in order to get to at least the Conference Finals. To say that Amar’e is somehow not a great power forward because he operates well in the pick and roll is foolish. He and Nash were unstoppable in the pick and roll. They pick and rolled their way to many winning seasons and to within two games of the NBA Finals two seasons ago. He and Felton pick and rolled so much that Amar’e was an MVP candidate before the trade last season. How is that a bad thing for a big man to be able to do?

  • Da-Meat_Hook

    I would say the Jason Williams that played on that championship Heat squad was an average starting pg at best…

  • MeloMan15

    dog… you’re an idiot. we’re not sying that hes bad because he can play pick n roll ball… he’s bad cuz he can ONLy play pick n roll ball… he cant get himself a shot, or he struggles to anyways

  • AsadSaleh3

    Nah, he was above average. A better all around PG than he ever was in Sacramento or Memphis. More polished and under control. His stats weren’t the best because he shared duties with GP but he was much more of a complete player at that point in his career. His shooting percentage was as good as it ever had been. A little more than a solid PG and what was not average at all was his vision and passing ability.

  • Da-Meat_Hook

    Average starting pg to me is someone who can’t crack the top 12 pgs in the L . . . He was definitely solid, but I’m not even sure he was a top 15 pg at that point.

  • Rainman

    Moron. This is why kids hould go to College.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @MeloMan15 Dog, you’re not bright enough to see that the dude in your name is completely one dimensional? All he can do is shoot. Yet you’re talking trash about Amar’e because you think all he can do is play pick and roll (which isn’t even true)? Amar’e can square up defenders and go past them with the dribble. The most frustrating thing about Melo is he’s not interested really in getting his teammates shots and he is much better when someone is creating shots for him, not when he’s dribbling and creating his own shots. Your guy could learn from STAT. Stop dribbling so much in isolation and let the team move the ball so that he can get his shots in the flow of the offense. No need to take so many contested shots with Amar’e on the floor. Melo can get himself a shot. Great. He won’t win anything until he learns how to get his teammates shots. He can’t which is part of the reason why STAT struggles to play with him.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @Da-Meat_Hook Understood. I just wouldn’t call Jason Williams average only because he still had certain skills at that point that were above average.

  • Waggle

    I think he subconsciously did this because he knew they were going to lose anyways, and did not want to be associated with that failure for whatever reason

  • http://slamonline.com Jones

    Should’ve just shoved a ref instead. Worked out well for Rondo, didn’t it?

  • Zabbah

    The Knicks are back!

  • AQWORD

    I DON’T SEE WHY MOST OF YALL ARE GETTING YOUR N.Y. g strings in a twist. Aight Miami. Its time to dispose of this mess.

  • Yesse

    It’s not like they were going to win the series anyway, lol.

  • RickyRude

    I hope for some odd reason that this is blessing in disguise for the Knicks and that they could somehow make this series more of a challenge for Miami… I want to see Melo mature and exhibit pure dominance like he’s shown glimpse of in the regular season…

  • L

    So disappointed at Stoudamire. The guy can score but doesn’t do anything else : no defense, not much rebounding and has become just a ball stopper. I think he’s better suited as 6th man primary option on the second unit and leave the offensive load and space to operate to Melo on the first unit.
    Now with this injury he has added stupidity to his overall uneffectiveness. Damn it 100Mil for real..L

  • Phillip

    Sad. He might regret it for life. But he has learnt a valuable lesson, hasn’t he? Patience and defence win championships.

  • http://slamonline Jimbo

    Which means he’s out for the remainder of the playoffs for the Knicks.

  • MeloMan15

    Melo can’t square up? Melo can’t pass? clearly you don’t watch ball… Melo takes it to the hole, he’s a much better passer than amare, he’s also a better rebounder for his position and recently has been playing better D. This series he’s going up against probably the best wing defender in the league… who has amare went up against? Chris Bosh! A dude who wears panties… I’m sorry bro, the problem is clearly stat

  • MeloMan15

    I”m not saying melo is the best player in the league… ofcourse he has holes in his game. But Amare is the one who needs to play better for us to win… and because of his stupid dislike for fire extinguishers, he won’t be able to perform, yet again

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    it’s funny how it’s either Amare or Melo’s fault. I would like to say there’s plenty of blames to go around.
    plus the bottom line is, you can’t fit two squares into two round holes. they just don’t work no matter how you try.
    Knicks: back to overpaying for pieces that don’t work. but we all already knew that last year. thanks, dolan.

  • http://www.dimemag.com biggaveli

    ^ ditto Knicks future are bleek at best They over paid for pieces not franchise players. now they forever 1rst knocks outs at best lol..

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