Saturday, July 14th, 2012 at 10:32 pm  |  100 responses

Sources: Kyrie Irving Breaks Hand (UPDATED)

by Tzvi Twersky | @ttwersky

Kyrie Irving had his hand set in a cast today, according to sources. The injury, which the same sources say is most likely a broken bone, occurred while the point guard was practicing with the Cleveland Cavaliers for the Las Vegas Summer League.

No further information as to the severity of the injury is known at this time.

Irving, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, averaged 18.5 ppg, 5.4 apg and 3.7 rpg in 51 games this past season. While in Las Vegas earlier this month, Irving played on the USA Select Team.

The Cavaliers are set to play their first Summer League game tomorrow, Sunday, July 15, at 8:30 p.m.

UPDATE: According to Jason Lloyd, the injury, a fractured bone in Irving’s right hand, occurred when the point guard smacked his hand into the padding of a wall after committing a turnover during practice. “I’m a little disappointed for a freak accident like that,” Irving told Lloyd. “I have to be more responsible about my health. It was crazy. It happened so fast. That thing I did, hitting the padding on the wall, I’ve done it so many times. This time it was just a freak accident.”

Irving is expected to miss 6-8 weeks. He should be ready for the start of training camp.

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  • lp

    Why is he even playing summer league? Isiah Thomas got the summer off.

  • CheeseWiz


  • http://www.dimemag.com showtime

    THose damn olympics.. wonder if people start decline now is that still less patriotic??? In other News.. knicks got felton back in a trade with PDX so guess all that dunk & hiding to get that offer sheet lol..Linsanity is leaving NYC after all..Morey again still with HAMON!!!! with dat restructure lol..

  • Tyquez foster

    Damn kyrie first Blake now him….

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    I blame the lockout. Wonder what’s going to happen with Lin now.

  • http://Slamonline.com 1982

    Almost positive Houston takes him and all his haters will narrow the sights to see if he can carry a team. The answer is no. Too bad, all he had to do was take less money..

  • just saying

    Sounds like a boxer’s fracture. Will hurt development of chemistry being out 6 weeks but should have no lasting impact even with it being on shooting hand. Still, the kid needs to drink more milk!

  • IndyB

    Nah, he should always take the most money possible. Let the haters hate. He’ll still get the last laugh because he’s going to be a decent pg who is richer than his haters. Sweet deal.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    He won’t get as much playing time. Felton, Kidd, Lin. Only Lin is a TO machine.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Indy grow up please lol. “haters”? Man people have opinions not hate, his state show he turns it over way too much.

  • IndyB

    Yes, moron. His haters. When the only thing you can do is point out a guy’s flaws you are a hater. You’re probably one of them since you took offense to the term haters, especially since no one claimed he was a superstar or perfect player. Who asked you about his stats or turnovers, Captain Obvious?

  • bdogg

    this had nothing to do with usa training camp…kyrie punched a padded wall in summer league! did anyone learn the amare lesson?? this is kyrie’s fault..get well and pay up son…you owe kb some dough1

  • IndyB

    He punched a Wall? I always figured he was smarter than that, padded or not.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Hey moron his stats show he’s not a good pg thus shouldn’t play much. And um no a hater is someone who would say Lin should get injured. In basketball u point out a players cons if u think he sucks, stop listening to hip hop and grow a pair, quit following the masses dumba**.

  • IndyB

    WTF are you talking about? Redd, you don’t even make sense. Your comments are all over the place and generally stupid. Quit listening to hip hop and grow a pair? You can’t even properly insult. WTF does hip hop have to do with me be cowardly (grow a pair????). What does any of that have to do with basketball? And he played well despite turning the ball over so stfu and sit down, clown. He has two NBA teams willing to pay him millions because he’s offensively talented. And he signed the Rockets offer sheet while the Knicks are pursuing Felton, so wtf does Kidd and Felton have to do with his playing time? He won’t be in NY.

  • PnoyVibe

    Lin makes up for the TOs with steals

  • jv

    man all y’all are dumb…you never hit the padded wall after a bad play? anyway I think kyrie should play kobe as uncle drew-after he heals of course

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    kyrie irving so brittle smh… all good duke players are. luol deng, carlos boozer, grant hill. If you go to duke and you’re decent you will have injuries your entire career. for no reason.

  • Heals

    @jv, Thank you! Who hasn’t done this (open hand and closed fist) on a padded basket. Hard or soft, after a good or bad play; anyway glad to see he should be ready to roll for the season…

  • http://Slamonline.com Jzakoni

    Some of y’all have never played ball at a very competitive level and it shows in your comments. It’s easy to hit the padded wall after you’ve made a bad play it’s a sign of frustration. It doesn’t make you any less of a person or player just a freak accident.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    ^that was me

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    ..grow a pair and quit following everyone else with that dumb misconceptionalized idea of “haters”? You really aren’t all that bright I see. What does having 2 PGs that are better have to do with PT..? LOL wow

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    It says that he smacked it, punching it even is pretty safe. Crazy accident, a la Derrick Rose and a apple peeler.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Feet turn me on

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    LIN MAKES UP FOR EVERYTHING by the fact that he will be voted into the allstar team just like Yao and he’ll bring $$$$$ into the Houston organisation.

  • jumpman

    Lin is awesome, but wait, what does he have to do with this article?

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    Big fan of Kyrie, but why do I get the impression he is injury-prone? Secondly, do you realize how hard you have to hit a padded wall in order to break your hand? Amare-esque?

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    ^imagine the diffence in rationality between hitting a soft and a hard surface in frustration.

  • http://9gag.com/gag/4568611 Max

    So Kyrie hit Wall?

  • http://www.slamonline.com L.E.

    Finally max with a little fun comment in this testosteron filled blog.
    Dudes relax!!!
    S#&* happens.

  • Clydesays

    With Cleveland’s luck, he’ll probably trip over his laces and break something else before the season starts….

  • D12FSU

    G-d hates Cleveland

  • Confused-say!

    someone bring up LIN?…Lin can play. Lin played really well in about 20 of his 35 games for the knicks and had 3.5 TO per game. There were games where he had a lot of turnovers but in some of those games he played his best in other aspects. I know this forum is just a bunch of dudes who think they know what they are talking about but you guys are so premature with your opinions. You are all trying to play basketball Nostradamus (which is fine), if you know what you are talking about but you say ish like “Oh and can he cut his TO’s to below 5 a game lol…”, you dont think those high turnover games had anything to do with playing nearly 40 mins with the ball in your hand on a team with questionable chemistry in terms of players and especially coach. Why dont you talk about his effort for those games and his attitude? Instead of bringing up something like his turnovers per game which can be undermined so easily if you look at the situation the Knicks were in at the time. Sorry to get so serious on ya’ll but I just wish people had a better attitude about players who have the potential to play great basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    We all know kobe smacked a phone out of kyries hand.

  • lud

    in response to showtime: I am sick of these superstars whining about not being paid to play in the Olympics. There are millions of hoops fanatics who will take your spot for free! They can take the summer off. No one has a gun to their heads.

  • http://www.nba.com VanCityBBall

    Anything to keep 50k

  • greg

    its a roll of the dice, but i think if the knicks are really committed to being a good basketball team, they have to match the offer. with their financial situation, if they dont match lin’s offer sheet, there is no way they can acquire a guard as good as lin with the mini mid level. Lins numbers were inflated because there was no scouting report on him, but his turnovers were high due to his usage, inexperience, and unfamiliarity with his teammates and coach. I expect good things from lin, not an all star, but good things.

  • Jer dawG

    That’s unfortunate that he broke his hand. People who hoop has always smacked something whenever they are upset. He gotta drink some more milk to get more calcium in those bones of his. Withstand those smacks against padded walls.

  • IndyB

    Dummy, all three won’t be playing for the Knicks. Why are you even commenting? You do realize that if Felton signs off on the sign and trade Lin is going to be a Rocket? Just stop. You’re slow. And you sound r#tarded with the hater comment. My opinion is my own, and since you dnt know ish about me don’t make an assumption the center piece of your argument, ja@ckass.

  • slamfan4life

    Thats what you get for challenging Kobe!

    jk, hope you get better soon Kyrie!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol idiots will be idiots. Lin had multiples 25-30 minute games with 6+ turnovers, you really over exaggerated that he played 40 a game.

  • ReyzRocketz

    Welcome back to HOUSTON Lin !!!!!!!

  • ReyzRocketz

    Kyrie got
    be more careful

  • IndyB

    You’re an idiot if you ignore turnovers per game for that stretch while talking about minutes per game for the same stretch. See, that’s why no one takes you serious. Nobody said his turnovers weren’t high but he isn’t the only one who averaged around 3.5 while playing that many minutes per. That’s the type of intentional inconsistency that makes everyone dismissive of your opinion.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    He did play a substantial amount of minutes but that’s no excuse for sloppy ballhandling and high turnovers. When you have stretches where you’ve had 6-8 turnovers that’s unexceptable for a starting PG.

  • IndyB

    Nevermind the fact that pgs like Rose (35 mpg: 3.1 to per game) Rondo (36 mpg 3.6 to’s) Westbrook (35 mpg 3.6 to’s) played a few mins more with similar to’s but have been starting for a minimum of four years longer than Lin. Experience doesn’t count now? Tell us Nostradamus, you know for a fact that with two more years of starting experience he can’t get his to’s down? Those guys were perfect when it came to not turning the ball over after starting a handful of games?

  • IndyB

    That was for Redd^^. And no one is saying Lin doesn’t need massive improvement. All we are saying is that he isn’t trash.

  • Donte

    Lin played well enough for a team (houston) to overpay him bc they’re desperate for a pg. his performance earned him the money, overpaid or not, and anybody who says he doesn’t, is a hater ESPECIALLY if you can’t play a freaking lick yourself. Note the key word is EARNED DDDDD!

  • Donte

    Lin was new to those type of minutes versus this level of comp. They’d a very good excuse to me. Fresh off your brothers couch & into the fire.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Are u kidding me? You’re comparing Lin to them? They’re elites, Lin isn’t. But if u must know Rose only played 4 more games this season and had less turnovers whilst still handling the ball more than Lin.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    He’s not trash he’s average, I never said he’s trash just not better than Kidd, but I’ll allow arguments for Felton.

  • IndyB

    I’m comparing numbers with his contemporaries, Einstein. Who said he was elite? The two numbers you used to try to say he wasn’t good were the ones that show you exaggerate how bad he is. That’s a hard concept for you to comprehend considering all you do is spout off random opinions without actually examining anything. You said his stats show he’s not a good pg. Do you understand the premise of an argument? Any argument?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol exaggerated? Are u born naturally stupid? The stats I pointed out back my claim up of him bring TO prone. You must not comprehend NBA stats much.

  • IndyB

    LOL@ you not being able to stick to your own argument. You said “his stats show he isn’t a good pg”. That’s a direct quote from you. FYI you never pointed out specific stats because all you do is make general claims without real context. Nobody denied he is turnover prone. Elite veteran starters who played a handful more minutes per game had similar turnover numbers. Just stop. You’re making yourself look even dumber.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Really now? I look at Roses game stats and I see 0s. You’re an idiot. Again Rose played 4 more games and if u look at his stats he has a lot of games with 0 turnovers. Again stats don’t lie, if you’re going to be a Stan, back it up with proof as to why.

  • IndyB

    Sooooooooo you are saying that Rose’s turnovers per game was not 3.0? Redd, you are the worst commentor here. Event the Seed can argue better than you. You are saying NBA.com’s info is wrong? ESPN and every other stat keeping site is wrong? This is why your opinion isn’t respected. Assessing a person’s average per game performance is how you back up a point. Rose has more starting experience. Rose also averaged 3.0 to’s per game last season. Lin’s average for his starting stretch was 3.5 and 3.6 for the whole season. All you do is hate on players not named Rose, and you don’t even do it well.

  • http://www.slamonline.com omphalos

    LMAO Yo Redd is the worst.

  • http://www.slamonline.com JTaylor21

    Do u not love his balls omphalos?

  • http://www.slamonline.com omphalos

    ^^Well played. Well played Taylor.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray


  • http://www.InternationalOutfit.com KingZ_777

    Kyrie’s gonna come back stronger and be the B-E-S-T point guard in the league in two seasons. Lin is going to make an ok starting pg on the Rockets, but he does have to slow down the turnovers. All the young pgs do. Lin has too many haters for someone who hasn’t accomplished anything yet.

  • Skrill

    saved from Kobe ripping him up after Olympics

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Again check his gamelog, he rarely has gone over 4 turnovers while averaging 3 assists less than Nash. Stats don’t lie(however I misspoke with the ’0s’, I absentedly looked at TOs only whilst not knowing its cause he hadn’t played). Hypocritical how u defend Lin and compare him to elite talent knowing damn well as a fanboy he isn’t there. Rose has an MVP, it’s safe to have his back there’s reason.

  • SeanMagicJuan

    Lol at IndyB using the phrase “let the haters hate” then telling someone to stop listening to so much hip hop. Lin is a decent young PG though, he is above average in the pick and roll which will earn you millions in the NBA.

  • SeanMagicJuan

    “I would love to see him back,” Carmelo Anthony said, “but I think he has to do what’s best for him right now.

    But it’s really not up to Lin anymore. He signed the offer sheet and the ball is in the Knicks’ court.

    “It’s not up to me,” Anthony said laughing. “It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract that’s out there.”

    Seems like a little shade from Melo, thoughts?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I wonder if he’ll use his off hand to wipe his butt now

  • IndyB

    SeanMagicJuan: Re-read the comments. You really don’t know what you’re talking about. I never made that hip-hop comment. I was mocking Redd for saying it.

  • IndyB

    Redd: Look slow guy, TURNOVERS PER GAME they aren’t far off. Point blank. Nobody said he was on Rose’s level overall. Your whole arguments are based on points NOBODY made. You’re such a slow azz DRose fanboy that you don’t even understand what you’re arguing about, idiot. We are talking about TURNOVERS. I bet this is how frustrated your mother felt when you were a kid. You’re just dense.

  • IndyB

    Redd, I better not ever see you use a single per game stat here. I mean ever. Since your style of argument requires picking random isolated games as your proof to evaluate overall performance, you cannot use apg, rpg, to’s per game, PER, bpg, spg, or assists to turnover ratios.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Damn Indy

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    3.1, but Rose played less but still had a better TO/assist ratio. He wasn’t going on 5+ TO game streaks. So again you idiot, you’re dissecting stats like a 1 year old NBA fan which would not surprise me what with you being a complete and utter imbecile. YOU were the one that mentioned Rondo, Westbrook, Rose in the same breath as Lin, now all of a sudden you’re recanting? Lin/Knick fans are the worst. No sports knowledge having mark b*tch. Now rant to yourself with your non sensical arguments.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Damn! so I got trolls now? this is the second time within days someone has used my name making suspect comments….you guys are serious lames.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    I…got…trolls! I got troooooolls!

  • IndyB

    Who the F is recanting, idiot? I compared their minutes and TO’s. They all have above 3 TO’s per game. Where in that statement or any other did ANYONE say anything about Lin being as good as them? I swear to god I will PayPal you money for a reading tutor. You are functionally illiterate. Your reading comprehension skills don’t exist. Do you realize I’m not the only one who thinks you’re an idiot? Show me where there was any comparison with Lin and those guy outside of minutes and turnovers, dumb@ss. I’m not even a Knick fan, I just think you’re so f#cking stupid it’s fun thrashing on you.

  • IndyB

    Now you want to actually look up everybody’s TO’s? FOH. Enough with the stupid @ss “Derrick Rose never did this that or the other”, you groupie. I notice you manage to use one single mention of his name to turn an entire convo into being about him. That’s creepy and weird and obsessive.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    lamo yo T-Ray… I got troolllls in different area cooodess I got Trolls! in different area cooodddessss.. but why are we talking about Lin’s wildly overrated @ss? btw Redd all you had to do to win this argument was bring up how Derrick Rose ate him alive when he matched up against him lmao

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Lol Datkid knows what’s up

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    lmao always fam ^^

  • Valkyrie

    I don’t think anyone is saying Lin is on those guy’s level so head to head perfomances are kind of irrelevent in their conversation.

  • Valkyrie

    I also peeped that Redd always brings up Rose in every conversation, and I too find it annoying. Just sayin’…

  • IndyB

    Uh, Valkyrie thanks for not being slow and actually reading the comments. I’m still waiting to see how anyone suggested Lin was up there with the elite pgs. Someone has to explain to me how Rose destroying Lin in a matchup changes the fact that everyone averaged between 3.0-3.6 To’s per game last season smfh.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    oh yeah valkyrie no question it’s annoying.. and weird and IndyB you compared his turnover ratio to guys who are elite but whatever dog lmao

  • IndyB

    I’m sure you know the difference between To’s per game, and assist to turnover ratio. Two separate stats my g. No one even hinted at Lin being on Rondo, Westbrook etc level overall. If Redd was smart he could’ve used….naaahhh I won’t help him.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Don’t ever challenge Kobe.

  • http://slamonline.com Mars

    Kobe? That was funny if you understand the joke. Easy money. EEEEEasy money.. You just got out of high school.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    It sounds dumb, but smacking a padded wall really isn’t that dumb. This is not on par with punching a fire extinguisher.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    I really do think that the hype around this kid and the attention he received from casual fans during Linsanity created a backlash among more hardcore basketball fans. Per-36 min stats should always be taken with a grain of salt, but this kid was hitting 19/8 per-36 as a rookie, despite all the changes and upheaval surrounding his team. By comparison: Irving was at 22/6. Lin was top-3 in the entire league at generating free throws from iso situations. Oh, and when Melo and Amare with both out the Knicks were stomping teams with Lin at the helm. You can say all you want about them beating weak teams that didn’t have a chance to scout Lin: the Knicks shouldn’t have won anything at all during that stretch, and Lin was tossing up game-winners. The business of the game is one thing, but even just from a basketball standpoint Lin is worthy of a pretty big contract. Sure, the sample size was low last year, but this kid has real potential, and lots of players have received far bigger contracts while showing far less potential.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    Sorry, wrong thread.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    I don’t comment for others and if Rose is brought up I talk about him. I’m a Bulls fan, I defend my team when I think I should but if I agree with any anti Bulls sentiments I stay hush, missed me with that one Valk.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    fair enough IndyB. and lmaooo at that last statement. *daps*

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    I cosign dagger about the backlash but honestly IDK about his potential. I think his peak was Linsanity. you take away SSOL, you take away feasting on weak defensive teams and/or bad defensive pg’s(Derek Fisher), and you give teams a chance to scout him and suddenly the margin for error becomes far less and his production drops. and I’m saying this as a guy who likes the way homie plays and really respects all he’s gone through. what happened when he played against the heat,celtics or bulls? Homie can’t lead a championship team or even a middling one in my opinion. no hate tho

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    Dwill and John Wall both dropped about 30 or 40 on the man. Ricky Rubio had a triple double. what happens when he has to see guys like CP3, Russell Westbrook, and Ty lawson 4 times a year? i’m just saying.

  • IndyB

    @ Datkid lmaoooo… In terms of Lin tho, defensively I really don’t think he is going to get better. Every last one of those guys is going to regularly drop their best games on his head. The best we can hope for with him is that while they are giving him buckets, he’s able to give a few back. He’s a good passer so he can help a team offensively, and he plays hard. I don’t think he can be more than a role player. He’ll be a decent starting pg tho. He’s not a guy to build around, but he’s one of the guys you put around a couple of stars.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Datkid: How can you say Lin’s peak was his 2nd season? Houston’s offense basically is 7SSOL–all they do is run pick and roll. It’s a point guard’s dream.
    Lin wasn’t just owning a bunch of scrubs… He played well against Dallas and LA, who both are very good defensive teams (minus Derrick Fisher). He also outplayed Kyrie Irving. And against John Wall, even though John dropped 33 on him, Lin still had something like 20 and 11 AND came up with the W. It’s fine to be realistic, but there’s no reason to be overly skeptical… If he was a first round pick nd didn’t have the Linsanity hype but still put up those numbers NO ONE would be saying he’s peaked at his sophomore year. EVERYONE would be saying he has potential. His hype is both a pro and a con.

  • http://slamonline.com KDub503

    So guys…there’s an article about Kyrie Irving’s broken hand but 80 out the 94 comments are about Jeremy Lin. Will you all please proceed out of this article’s thread into another.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    alright so my comment won’t post. but here’s my point. teddy you and I both know that Dfish and J.Kidd were huge holes in the lakers and mavs defense last season. the idea of being a good defensive team is kinda negated if the weakest point in your defense is guarding the focal point of the other teams. your 4-5 every time down the floor basically. yes it’s cool that he barely outplayed Kyrie even though kyrie is younger and has played far less college ball than him. I actually think he had like 29 on John Wall lol.. but regardless John Wall’s team was 1. full of knuckleheads and 2. terrible at defending the P and R . I’m really not being overly skeptical but I’m just saying that not every team he’s gonna play next year will be terrible or terrible at defending pg’s bc right now the L is full of great PG’s and he won’t be able to just play 15 games he’s gonna have to play 82 against people who really don’t want him to embarrass them.

  • Drig

    @Terry………..LAL is not a good defensive team. Esp. if the opposing O is a PG dominant one. Never was for the last 2 years.

  • L Dribble

    Jeez – Aren’t there enough articles about Lin’s ballsack to comment on? Can’t you take your Lin / Asik alley-oop fantasies elsewhere?

  • mask

    Get well soon Kyrie

  • mask

    btw Lin isnt a good fit for the knicks b/c he is more of a scoring gaurd and you really dont need that when melo is on the team…I think Felton fits much better and i say they get past the 1st round of the playoffs this coming season.