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Thursday, August 16th, 2012 at 11:25 am  |  61 responses

Olajuwon: Amar’e Stoudemire’s Post-Game Transformation is ‘Night and Day’


Knicks forward Amar’e Stoudemire has spent time in Houston training with Hall-of-Fame center Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon, and has claimed he’s made exponential progress this summer. And now, Olajuwon himself has corroborated those reports, saying Stoudemire’s post-game is now on another level. More details, via the New York Times: “’You won’t believe it,’ Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from his ranch outside Houston. The apprenticeship began on Aug. 6, with daily three-hour sessions on Olajuwon’s private court. Stoudemire has proved a quick study, assimilating moves and countermoves as fast as Olajuwon can demonstrate them. ‘It’s night and day,’ Olajuwon said. ‘What’s so nice is he wants it; he likes the post. He’s always wanted to play there, but he doesn’t have the moves that would give him that option.’ Since retiring in 2002, Olajuwon has become the N.B.A.’s go-to source for players hoping to develop their post skills. LeBron James, Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant have visited the Olajuwon ranch. So have Marcin Gortat and the Lopez twins, Brook and Robin. This month, it’s Stoudemire and Denver’s JaVale McGee.”

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  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Hopefully it translates to gametime situations. I’m excited to see if it wll.

  • http://gmail.com z

    If he’s anywhere near as good as you were in the post,dream, then us new yorkers should be well on our way to forgiving you for denying us in 94Also mcgees one of the most athletic players ever dude has NO excuse to not be dominant.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk Max

    Mcgee and a postgame would be unbelievable if only he had brains.

  • LA Huey

    Z, McGee is not a basketball player, he’s an athlete that plays basketball. And despite his ridiculous gifts, that’s why I doubt he’ll ever be dominant.

  • Rik Smits Mullet

    looking forward to mcgee’s post moves

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It’s cool and scary how easily cats in the NBA follow the Leader.
    It’s also interesting that the Leader is still Kobe.
    Remember, he went to Hakeem first, then Bron and now everybody. And he did the knee surgery first too. Every player in the League respects Kobe, even if they think he takes some crazy shots. Lol.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    Allenp
    Tmac actually got that knee procedure done first, kobe just popularized it.

  • Jer dawg

    McGee will probably grab defensive rebound, make post moves and shoot it in the opponents basket.

  • CubicleWorker

    Lol @ Jer dawg… comment of the day so far

  • http://slamonline.com LLC#12

    It’s such a travesty that the basketball brain of Scal got blessed with the body of a professional bowler whilst McGees knucklehead has other-worldly gifts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Amare is very quick, I have no doubt he improved his game. Knicks are not contenders.

  • biggieman

    Who cares if Amare can score better in the post?… He still doesn’t play any defense, or fit in with Carmelo Anthony, so dial back the excitement Knicks fans, your still a 6 seed in the east.

  • ChristianBulleN

    ^ lol dunno why i just saw that happen in my head.

  • bike

    Once Hakeem finishes teaching every nba player post moves he should turn around and then teach how to defend his post moves. He could make a fortune.

  • Juicy

    All hype

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Cosign Bryan Crawford

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    I wonder how much “Dream” charges per session.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Co-Sign the manna sent from heaven that Crawfish sent us peasants ;)
    I am excited. Amare has always been one of my favorite players to watch when healthy. I hope he helps turn the Knicks into a decent team. Their team is weird though. Melo is best on the block, Amare on the block, Chandler can’t leave the paint for more than 3 seconds. They better figure out the game plan.
    Jason Kidd might do more for this team than we realize. Dude is a wizard.

  • http://slamonline.com Nella

    The next public service Hakeem should do is taking his act to AAU camps. Maybe in a few years we’ll have a generation of 6’10+ kids who know how to play with their backs to the basket again, rather than trying to run a fast break and shoot fade-away 3′s. One can only hope.

  • lemskiz

    im more excited fir mcgee than stat considering sta’s self promoting that he has been doing for the past. ouplemof days. he shouldmbe like bruce wayne, hide his assets and let the game do the talking rather than his mouth n a self proclaiming documentary

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I didn’t know that about McGrady. People don’t really bring up TMac as proof that the treatment worked. That’s funny.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    that ain’t bryan. it’s an imposter

  • Nope

    why is slam the only reputable forum where actual logins are irrelevant? this place is all about bitin people’s names and fake comments and ish.

  • http://www.fullc0urtpress.com KHOLIDAY

    When you had no post game and you learn from the master, everything after day 1 should be described as night and day. His post game couldnt have gotten any worse!

  • Jerome

    One week is not enough time for Stat or McGee.

    They both need at least a year of deprogramming before any positive results take hold.

  • robb

    lol@ Jer dawg I can picture McGee doing that, definitely.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    I wonder if players like say Patrick Ewing ever secretly feel butthurt that no players have ever reached out to him for training.

  • Riggs

    @Brion: Everybody saw how he didnt improve Dwight and said no thanks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Isn’t Bryan one of our guys? By our guys I mean a Bulls fan. Anyways it sucks that McGee is getting no attention. I realize the guy can be a dumb dumb dummy but I believe in him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk Troll

    Hakeem is getting that $$$. he charge like 200 racks

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    McGee is smart. He’s going to start the year averaging 18-12-4 over the first 10 games and slowly simmer down as dudes realize he’s improved drastically.
    Denver got a gem in McGee. Okay, a rough Diamond, but you know, some day could be a gem.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, uhm, please, read the first 3 words of that comment and proceed to stop bashing yourself in the forehead. because that must be what’s going on.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Stop hating on McGee NBK. I told you when he left Washington he would be fine. Nick Young too.

  • Sikwithit5

    Its not like that bama is gonna start playing defense. Amar’e is wack for life!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Allen, you need to go back and look at what i said about them, i was over optimistic. you are thinking about someone else. i was just making a joke about McGee’s lack of intelligence.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    lol, I love Allen’s love for Young and McGee. It’s like they are his kids.
    I like both their games, but their both dummies. Doesn’t mean they always will be. Dudes make stupid mistakes and plays more than most though.
    .
    Young wasn’t good for the Clips. I hope he finds a nice 6th man niche with them next year though. Dude is too skilled a scorer to be reduce to anything less than 4th scoring option on that team.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    With Amare wanting to be set up down in the post alot more several things will need to happen –
    * Tyson Chandler will get less court time.
    * Melo will need to either A) make that CORNER pass into the post or B) Allow JKidd to hand off the ball into Hake….Amare.
    * The perimeter guys will have to become very comfortable as spot up shooters…
    —-
    I expect their best line-ups would look like this:
    Amare C
    S. Novak F
    Carmelo F
    Kidd G
    Felton G
    with Kurt Thomas playing that high-low position (his mid-range shot will be very handy on this team) and JR Smith/Shumpert/Davis playing big roles (if healthy??).

    It’s interesting that they bring in Marcus Camby now too along with Chandler when they will need to work very hard to fit in offensively with Amare…..?

  • LA Huey

    “lol, I love Allen’s love for Young and McGee. It’s like they are his kids.” So true.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    @Allenp
    Kobe crazy shots, has given him 5 rings one less than your IDOL. LOL, Also aren’t you tired of digging at Kobe, he must have taken your girl or something. Also who is your favorite player in the NBA. It has to be CP3.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Thats an interesting point you made about following the leader and it SEEMS like kobe’s still the leader(weird since its clear that its now lebrons league). And this is where mj kinda robbed us of getting to see the transition happen organically by retiring in 98–we didnt get to see if iverson would step up and take the reigns, or mj would hand em off to kob (as madison ave was so intent on making us believe). But we are gonna get to see it now with kob and td i just hope they r gracious about it.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Tim Duncan career been over for the pass three years to me. The last time he won a ring was 2006-2007. Last two years they have had the best record in the West and flamed out to the Memphis Grizzles and lost four straight to OKC. Tim career is over he will get 18pts, 11rebs and the spurs will flame out again. Kobe is the undisputed leader of the NBA for the past years and is the GLOBAL ICON, check jersey sales and Kobe was loved more than anybody on the basketball team in London, check articles. Kobe has had this league on lock as an ICON since being the youngest All Star in NBA History.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Also Kobe starts something people listen. Lebron, CP3, Melo, Wade all have stated they learned alot from Kobe in 2008 that has propelled their careers. Wade even stated he patterned his game after MJ and Kobe, because of their longevity of winning after their thirties. If only the slam commenters respected Kobe, like NBA legends, players and sports shows/radio do.

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    The seed flaming allen is like soulja boy jawing at jay-z. Weird.

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    I had to look back up to check the title and saw two names, neither of them Kobe’s. The guy above me just vomitted a lot of inconsequential stuff for apparently no reason. Again, weird.

  • Allenp

    I don’t have a favorite right now. I like Dwill better than most and still have love for KG and Duncan. Two favorites all time are Iverson and Hakeem.
    Kobe takes crazy shots why deny it?

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    @Allenp,
    if that is the real Allenp and AI is your favorite player all time and you talk about Kobe taking bad shots, not being a leader or good teammate, man you are really off-AI was the ultimate I am going to get my shots and points guy. AI chased off plenty of players, and became a journeyman joke at the end of his career. AI is the ultimate I dont have work ethic, lets play streetball NBA player. WOW.
    @melvin ely,
    Don’t let Allenp, fool you, alot of people calls him out. He states alot of crazy stuff with no facts. At least I can bring articles into the situation, but people pass them off as lies. Allenp thinks Kobe team of Smush, Walton, Odom, Brown, Mihm was a good team and should have beat the Suns teams. Also fake melvin ely, you can have a bromance with Allenp later, but something is wrong if you think I care. Facts are Facts, everything I wrote can be backed up. Thats the truth. Your welcome!!

  • http://Slamonline Kobesbeastin24

    Yuh hakeems getting straight paid!! He getting 100 k per week for his sessions

  • http://gmail.com z

    Lmao, the seed just went HAM on allenp! Seed i hear ya, im with ya, kob dont get his props from some but he also connected with ppl on a purely basketball level; allen iverson connected on levels that went much deeper than just a game. I thought that was slam 101. Im with allenp because allen iverson and kobe are my two favorite players to watch EVER, except this: both allen and kob took crazy difficult shots (though for different reasons) and both were incredible at making em. Who’s better? Gotta go with al, inch for inch.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I actually quite like the Seed. He is pretty respectful and I rarely if ever see him throw insults around. And he never takes offense when people diss him. Shoutout to The Seed.

  • Mike From Spain

    Kobe this, Kobe that, MJ blah blah, Lebron blah blah… OK, now that’s out of the way, what do you think about Dacre’s lineup for the Knicks? Sorry to say Dacre, I think it would not work. Who defends? That team can score a bunch but they are short only of putting a red carpet all the way to their basket. Kidd defending 2′s? He’s a little undersized and old. Felton is still a big question mark, not to say plain bad. Amar’e has to demonstrate he really has a brand new post game before structuring the whole team around that. Melo has played some D at times, he has played the 5 for Team USA these Olympics, but Melo as 4 and STAT as 5 would be eaten alive by any half-serious front-court. Steve Novak at the 3… he sure can shoot the 3 ball, but what about his lateral quickness? Can you imagine Steve Novak on Lebron? Steve Novak on 80 year old Paul Pierce?

  • Thanatos

    When Tyson Chandler is off the floor and Amare is in at 5 for the Knicks their defense drops badly. So that lineup with Amare at 5 won’t work. Melo is best as a small ball 4 , Amare’s best position also. I think they have a big problem on their hands but maybe Kidd’s creative mind can help fix it.
    This is a statistics site that has a ton of information on how specific lineups work.
    http://www.82games.com/1112/1112NYK2.HTM

  • Joakimnoahshair

    Teedy the bear got a mouth full of seed…

  • http://www.nba.com/knicks danpowers

    @Mike: its impossible to predict how their lineup(s) will work out. any positive scenario (melo n stat showin at least effort on d, chandler playin the defensive anchor, brewer shuttin down perimeter players, offense gels, felton reports to camp in shape, camby provides defense off the bench, kidd, smith n novak produce points and so on) and also every negative scenario (injury problems, offense stays clumsy, stat n melo playin matador defense, felton out of shape, camby n kidd being non factors coz of their age, etc) could happen. thats unpredictable. i think the possibility that either the positive or the negative case happens is like 50% each. dont think that we will see something in between like that last rollercoaster season.

  • http://slam FLIGHT 9

    AMARE U FORGET Melo is your teammate!!!???????? You will avg. 8 shots per game trust me unless they trade him!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Seed
    If you’ve ever paid attention to my comments you would know I criticize Iverson for all of those things yet still appreciate what he does well.
    I can admit faults and still appreciate strengths. And I have expressed remorse and anger that Iverson squandered talent. It’s well documented.
    You have never, EVER done that with Kobe. Until you do, your opinion is not an opinion but a prime example of hero worship.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think Kobe was up 3-1.
    If Tracy McGrady has been killed his entire career for failing to close out Detroit when up 3-1 in Orlando, why shouldn’t Kobe be criticized?
    That is stupid.
    Only Kobe fans discount the advantage of being up 3-1.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Seriously though. The team was so horrible, but the Lakers were up 3-1 without Kobe having a single “monster” game. Nobody sees a problem with the narrative that his team was just too horrible for him to win?
    I really can’t understand this.

  • Drig

    @AllenP…….Kobe wasn’t having monster stat lines BUT he was having the usual Kobe stat lines with great EFFICIENCY. He had a monster game in Game 6 squandered by Kwame butter fingers brown, he had a great game in game 5 only for it to go down the drain and he in your opinion quit in game 7….He did what he was supposed to do for atleast 2 games to close the suns out. The problem was LAL players were too scared to defend their own shadow and the fact that they didn’t take care of the ball well. Anyways, I thought we went through this already. Amare and Hakeem are not happy at the way Kobe’s again hijacking another thread lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Listen to what you’re saying. Kobe had balanced efficient games early (which I agree with) and the Lakers had success. Kobe had “monster” games late, and the team squandered a 3-1 lead.
    I think Kobe was uncharacteristically efficient and played a team game, then switched to hero mode when he decided to close things out. And he failed and got pissy at his teammates.
    But clearly other folks disagree. I’m ready to move on to be honest. I just don’t like the fact that everyone says “Oh, Kobe’s team sucked” but McGrady just lost and is a failure.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Lakers clearly benefitted from Kobe playing the right way through the first 4 games, and fell apart when he went into Kobe Mode in games 5-7. Idk how you can make an argument that clearly highlights this fact, and act like it proves your point. LOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • LA Huey

    I felt like Phoenix just played up to their capabilities in that series. Kobe gave up in Game 7 but I doubt the W would have changed hands even if he tried.

  • Drig

    @Allenp……..I haven’t even commented yet on a T-Mac thread and I don’t fault him for not closing it out. Kobe had a balanced efficient game in game 5 and LAL lost by what 15 points?? Game 6 was a game LAL could’ve won. Should’ve won and closed them out. If not for a slip up at the end. And Phx was lights out in game 7 while the Lakers’ supporting cast fell back to earth with a thud in game 7. I’d doubt even a Kobe who “didn’t quit” could’ve saved that game. We lost by what? 30 points?! I’d say Phx started playing to their potential from game 3. LAL was just as efficient as Phx but Phx could put up more shots, could take care of the ball better and for what it’s worth, could defend much better. If you look at it again, you’ll see that any game LAL outshot Phx wrt FGA, LAL won. Once Phx started putting up around 10-12 more FGA per game like in games 7,5 and 3/2 ( don’t remember which ), LAL was more or less screwed. I already mentioned why we lost Game 6 earlier so that sums it up. Kobe couldn’t have controlled that and the team’s D right?? And nbk…….seriously?!?! The LOOOOOOOOOOL at the end makes me doubt if you’re the real nbk. Hope it’s not the real nbk anyways…..

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