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Thursday, August 9th, 2012 at 1:03 pm  |  66 responses

Orlando Magic and L.A. Lakers are Once Again Discussing a Dwight Howard Trade


Remember those exciting weeks of Dwight Howard trade rumors that eventually became…well, nothing at all? Good news! They’re back. According to Yahoo!’s Adrian Wojnarowski, the Lakers and Magic are once again discussing a trade centered around Dwight Howard that’ll land the big man in L.A. The 76ers and Nuggets are also reportedly involved in the conversation, and may help make the deal go down in one way or another. Or they may not. Who knows. Via Yahoo!: “The Orlando Magic and Los Angeles Lakers are engaged with the Denver Nuggets and Philadelphia 76ers in a four-way blockbuster that could ultimately deliver superstar center Dwight Howard to the Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. A deal is not considered imminent, but the talks have grown serious over the course of this week, sources said. There are multiple moving parts in the fluid talks, but the framework of a possible deal includes Howard and Denver forward Al Harrington going to the Lakers, Philadelphia guard Andre Iguodala going to the Nuggets, Los Angeles center Andrew Bynum moving to the 76ers, and Los Angeles forward Pau Gasol and Denver guard Arron Affalo going to the Magic, sources told Yahoo! Sports.”

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  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    If the Lakers get D12 (Nas voice)it’s “bye-bye baby.”

  • benny

    this is BS no way lakers would give up bynum and gasol, the one thing making them such a strong team is two dominant big men

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Sixers just might become a true force out East if this deal goes down.

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    Like I have said all along, if the Lakers are serious, they should offer Pau Gasol / Andrew Bynum at the same ____ time. They are being under-utilized in L.A. anyway, (i) shagging Horry Jr’s rebounds and (ii) playing the role of scapegoat when LA underachieves during the playoffs. If the Lakers underachieve after getting D12, Horry Jr’s legacy will be clear even to Lakers fans – a volume shooter who has been the beneficiary of playing on teams with “exceptionally more talent” than the rest of the league.

  • Ryan

    Trade machine says NOOOOO

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Don’t like the deal. Lakers should keep Pau and make the deal, Unless Lakers can get Afflao or AI and Howard. Lakers should not want a big man 3pt shooter in Harrington. So Bynum will sign an extension with 76ers, but not Magic. Dummy. Also Nuggets with AI would be a good team at West. Magic lose in this deal anyway, they need to just get draft picks and hope they find another Howard at number 1 one day.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If the Lakers get D12, he will be playing next to AL Harrington and Antawn Jamison. That team is not as scary as it sounds.

  • Cold

    Haha Antwan Jamison and Al Harrington are like identical players. 6’11 and all they do is shoot threes. It would be dumb for the Lakers

  • Fat Lever

    The Seed, why is Bynum dumb for(maybe) wanting to sign an extension with Philly than Orlando? Philly’s nucleus is younger and better than Orlando’s.

  • miagus23

    If this goes down, I see the Nuggets in the 3 spot out in the west…

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    So the Magic want Pau as their Center?

  • T-Money

    so the sixers basically get bynum for iggy?! wow, that’s a steal. not sure i like it for LA.

  • Fat Lever

    “Now in the back of my mind, yo I really do hope/That mf’ers out here dont take my crew for no joke/cause if our backs against the wall we goin for broke/BUT WE’LL NEVER FALL VICTIM TO THE OHKEEDOKE/IT GOES ON, AND ON, AND ON/KEEP ON/AND YA DON’T STOP”

  • RS

    Dont like the trade. Lakers need to keep two big man

  • http://Slamonline.com Black Mamba

    If we’re giving up Bynum and Gasol then Howard better extend.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Pau would more than likely be the player going to Philadelphia. – Dwight to LA – Bynum to Orlando – Iguodala to Denver. That’s how it would likely shake out. With Harrington to LA – Afflalo to Orlando – Draft Picks to Orlando.

  • El Black Mamba

    Dumb trade for the lakers, I understand Gasols contract is a killer but DAMM what a major downgrade from gasol to Harrington, plus Kobe already said Gasol ain’t going no where, unless lakers get iggy on this deal shhhh ain’t happening

  • SE

    @ShockExchange, Even with D12, the Lakers will under-utilized D12 anyway, just because of Horry Jr. That’s the fact! Unless he transform himself into an unselfish player like Lebron.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    I’d rather have a trade that landed us Iggy instead of giving up our two big men for just one in return.

  • Conor

    Los Angeles will not trade both Gasol & Bynum… Especially for – this is a play on an 80′s nickname that was far less deserved – Dwight Coward.
    .
    As for Shock Exchange’s comment: Bryant’s 2005-2007 (his prime’s peak) is, individually, comparable to any player of the N.B.A.’s history. Teams which fostered Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Chris Mihm (intermittently) as starters. I’m guessing you are a James/Jordan fan, which makes your entire philosophy hypocritical.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Oh because Conor says so it won’t happen!! lol – if they want Dwight, that’s the only choice they really have. I’ve been saying that for over a year. To get Dwight, LA has to take back a terrible contract, and the only other player they have to trade outside of Bynum, to make that possible, that other teams want, is Pau Gasol. — If it doesn’t make you happy, blame Kobe Bryant for making 27 million dollars this year and 30 million next year. Because without that, you would have more than 5 players making over 4 million dollars a season (Nash, Bryant, Peace, Gasol, Bynum).

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    SE, actually the Shock Exchange did not read the post in detail. I thought it was the same ‘ol “D12 for Bynum” talk. If the Lakers indeed move Pau Gasol / Andrew Bynum at the same ____ time, D12 will have “Chris Childsed” Horry Jr by mid-season.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^Don’t bother Conor. Some people truly are blind.
    .
    I would be okay with Bynum and Pau leaving if the Lakers grabbed Iggy and Dwight. You don’t need two dominant big men. It’s a blessing and curse is what people don’t realize. Dwight flanked by Antawn Jamison or Al Harrington at the 4 would be a great line up with Iggy, Kobe, Nash. Especially if they are serious about the Princeton offense being ran to full affect.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, Iguodala is not going to LA. idk what gave you that dumb idea. .”Philadelphia guard Andre Iguodala going to the Nuggets” – it says it right infront of your head.

  • Steps Around Lue

    so the sixers would have bynum, hawes, kwame brown , lavoy allen, and vucevic at center? this makes no sense unless they throw in kwame brown or vucevic in this deal…too many centers. kwame brown is pissing me off so much right now.

  • Steps Around Lue

    is this trade happens, this is the sixers potential depth chart…

    point: holiday, ivey, wayns
    shooting: turner, nick young
    small: thad young, wright, harkless
    power: hawes, moultrie
    center: brown, bynum, allen, vucevic

    only reason i have brown starting is because collins is dead serious on starting kwame brown…collins needs to stop taking drugs. again i only feel good about this trade if kwame brown or nick vucevic are included somehow.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    nbk… this is a trade rumor. Meaning I would like the rumors/potential deal to involve Iggy going to LA. Never said it said Iggy would go to LA.
    .
    Shock Exchange must have a girl friend that works as a hotel concierge in Colorado or something. Dude has a deep seeded disdain for one Bean Bryant.

  • Conor

    nbk: Do you think the organization lacks funding? The Lakers are worth nearly one billion dollars. Giving Bryant thirty million versus the (approximately) one hundred million he provides for the franchise seems to be a fair trade. Even with the cap taxes elevated under the new C.B.A., to assume that any player is unaffordable for Los Angeles is simply incorrect. As you wrote, they are already prepared to pay a third of their roster at least four million dollars each (seven million is the actual minimum).
    Regardless, if you believe that a team whose success hinges upon two of the five most talented bigs in the League would be better served by losing them both for a(n) (back-)injured centre because “they want” him… No.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    The Lakers are the one percent of the league….no team has had less losing seasons than them. Those lucky bastards

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Conor, first of all, of all the people here you think I am just saying things that don’t make sense? I know you have commented here before, and taken part in the discussions, am I really going to say something ignorant like that? I completely, 100% understand the situation. you apparently don’t understand the rules of the Salary Cap. The Lakers literally are NOT ALLOWED to add anyone else. They have to use a contract, worth a lot of money, (Gasol) just to be able to make a trade for Dwight while taking back another big contract (Harrington) which to get Dwight they have to do. It’s the only way they can get Dwight (the best big in the league) – now as to whether or not this makes them better? that remains to be seen, i’m not so sure it does. But that is still the only way to acquire Dwight. What I stated about 5 guys making over 4 million is only to highlight that they only have 4 players that they could even include in a Dwight trade to take back the aforementioned sh*tty contract. (Idk what your talking about when you mention a minimum of 7 million? That’s irrelevant, and meaningless.) The problem? Nash can’t be traded, Kobe can’t be traded, and nobody wants Metta World Peace. So what does that leave you?
    .
    All I’m talking about is what will and can happen, not what you would do. I don’t give a flying monkey sh*t what you would do. Or what you think LA should do. That’s irrelevant. Unless your name is Connor Buss.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, why say that about Iggy then? Are you really Naive enough to think LA even has a chance to get both those guys?

  • Nope

    orlando is going to lose this trade. the only leverage they have is that they are foolishly trying to claim they won’t trade dwight if they don’t have to. they will. they have to. dwight is a ufa after this year. dwight is making his demands known. he has said where he will re-sign. neither of those teams would mortgage their futures to get a guy they can wait one year for. what happens if this trade doesn’t go down? LA is a serious title contender this year with the roster they currently have. bynum, perhaps, puts up career high numbers with nash at the helm. ya’ll are buggin if you think that LA is not in a position of power.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yes it would be possible financially for them to tout a lineup of Howard, Jamison, Iggy, Kobe, Nash. They would need to get rid of MWP in addition to Gasol and Bynum. Everyone thinks MWP’s contract is untradeable. It’s not.
    You need to calm down too bruhh. Whether or not you are upset I don’t know, but quit with the “your naive” and you “don’t know sh*t” narrative it gets old. Calm yourself. Were talking about basketball trades and signings not abortion and war.

  • KDtreycinco

    Could y’all stop callin him iggy, it’s annoying. His name is iguodala dammit !!!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^His name is Kevin Durant, stop calling him KD!!!!

  • KDtreycinco

    ^ thats his real nickname. But aint nobody in the NBA call Andre “iggy” .

  • KDtreycinco

    Yall can’t say nothing about Kevin cause he’s Kid Clutch!!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    It “can” happen technically. But it won’t. Because MWP’s contract is untradeable in terms of getting back value. Iguodala and Howard to LA is not happening. There is no real chance. Acting like there is, is naive.

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    Can somebody please get Thor on the phone for these Lakers stans?

  • D12FSU

    I like this for Orlando! Nelson-Afflalo-Turk-Baby-Gasol… I mean its not winning us any titles, but we’d still be in that 4-6 seed range. Get it done Hennigan!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Every night I pray that the Lakers don’t get Dwight…
    I’m lying, but I do hope really hard.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk Troll

    Not if David Stern and Dan Gilbert have anything to say about it

  • Red Star

    Enough with the DH to the Lakers talk! With Nash, Gasol will be rejuvenated & I predict his numbers will be back to those of his championship years! Kobe can just focus on being Kobe (40 shots per game, lol). Bynum can focus on his foolish comments he loves to make to the media! Why would we want that diva DH on our team when we have it so good and (in my humble & unbiased opinion) are the odds favorite to win it all next season!!! Don’t forget I did say my humble opinion, lol.

  • Conor

    nbk: Of course they would have to give someone up… I never said they could just pilfer Howard for nothing because they’re wealthy. My original point was that they should not trade both Gasol and Bynum for Howard (and whoever else). I’m sorry that it is difficult for you to read from time to time, but what I wrote wasn’t exactly the trajectory calculation for the Curiosity landing.
    .
    You agree that Los Angeles wouldn’t definitively improve with the Howard addition, so what are you arguing with me for?

  • Kas

    NOOOOO DON’T DO IT L.A.!!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Conor Posted: Aug.9 at 2:01 pm “Los Angeles will not trade both Gasol & Bynum”
    . – it’s not my ability to read that’s the problem. it’s your ability to write, or remember what you wrote.
    .
    AND, I’m arguing that if they want Dwight, this will happen. Gasol is the only other player they can include in the trade to make it happen. For the reasons i stated. then you went off about team funding and some other non related ignorance. like i said, just because you don’t think it should happen doesn’t mean it won’t. back to square one.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK you’ve been extra chippy lately.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i know right

  • NBA Guru

    Im getting tired of this trade talk myself, but none of this s***t makes sense.

    1. First off, if the Lakers do get D12, its a good deal for them. D12 over Bynum anyday. But to give up Gasol? If its for salary cap reasons (most likely) I get it…but your still bringing in Harrington’s contract as well. Even though its less…it still SUCKS! Jamison or Harrington would never replace Gasol, but the fact that they can draw a big man out to the perimeter, will create opportunities in the paint for D12. But it still sucks! Gasol is still solid, is a great passer for a big man, and know’s how to stay out the way. Nash will make his a** become relevant again. At the end of the day, if they dont make the trade, this team looks wicked. AND IM NOT A LAKER FAN!

    2. For the Nuggets, wtf is the point!? I like AI over Chandler & Gallanari but now your creating a log jam. So, you move Affalo, so what? Now who’s your 2guard?? Your gonna move AI to the 2spot. Really?? Dude can play, but he’s a wing. Thats it. He’s not gonna help get them to the finals. They need to back out this trade unless they are planning on moving one of the other 2 SF’s they have on that team to get a solid 2guard. It doesnt make sense.

    3. Philly gets Bynum. Ok…it’s not that bad of a deal for them, but they got a young nucleus anyway’s so…whatever. They’ll get better eventually.

    4. Orlando needs to try to get Bynum for this deal to make sense. Send Gasol’s a** to Philly and let him play with Spencer Hawes. It would make more sense for that team to have an experienced Gasol mentoring Hawes/this young team. I like Affalo going to Orlando w/Bynum if they can pull it off. But at one point this roster still needs an overhaul, making Bynum an ideal centerpiece & making Affalo a valuable asset. But if they are getting Gasol, it aint worth it. It would be stupid…

    Any critics?

  • Lisa

    No sense. Bynum and Gasol for D12 and Harrington. And with all the big free agents gone. No sense. Trade Bynum for D12, just that.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I remember back when you said there was no way Nash would be on the Lakers…
    Iggy will be a nice fit.

  • Conoro

    nbk: You quoted something that I restated, almost word for word… You, sir, are a SLAMonlurchen.
    .
    I admit that I do not wish for Howard to become a Laker as it would give me little reason to cheer for them. I couldn’t vilify James for the Decision & not react similarly to Howard’s free-fall.
    .
    As you were.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    I want Iggy and Howard for Pau and Bynum. Make it happen Lakers, but do not give up Pau for Harrington, Please Lakers.

  • davidR

    nbk, maybe you should take some DMT

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^LOL @ all the Psychedelic convo’s taking over this site.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Actually Lakeshow I said the Lakers were not pulling off a trade for Nash (which technically was wrong, but I didn’t mean impossible in the sense that it happened). I never said he wouldn’t pick the Lakers if it were possible, in other words

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Conor, I quoted you, word for word. You asked what I was arguing, clearly I showed you, with your own words. Everything I said makes perfect sense, if you actually know what you said that prompted my response. Just read.

  • Lboogie

    Andrew Bogut article about drugs fueled the druggies. Anyhow…I preached this 2 weeks ago and everyone said Lakers cant win a championship. I just told yall to sit down and watch. You think this is a game? Its a business son…Howard is coming to LA. Theres no doubt. Get rid of both of our centers and you have a center that is UN GUARD-ABLE. He just cant be stopped and even if we lose both our centers…Dwight makes up for everything. Hes dominant man…we dont need both to win. Kobe and Howard are ready, They know what to do and its basically a SHAQ/KOBE type of feel. Surround them with role players that can shoot the rock at 6’11 and you have an UN GUARD ABLE TEAM. They can shoot the rock and score….Double teams on KOBE, DWIGHT? No problem…NASH, ANTWAN, AL7, hell even MWP. Is troy Murphy still with the lakers?? All shootersss, DONT BE SURPRISED IF LAKERS SCORE 70 AGAIN by HALF. Lakers get Jason Richardson too? OMGGGGG

  • Lboogie

    All i did was sit and wait for 365 days….for Glory to Return To LA….Mitch KupChak….Mitch KupChak…..Mitch KupChak…. I miss Russ Bengston as EIC

  • NetsRTakingOver

    none of these teams have lottery picks for the next 2 years, anyhow orlando loses in this deal, 76ers and Nuggets would be much improved. lakers both losing pau and bynum for d12 who may not play till early next year is a definite downgrade.

  • Conor

    And it happened.

  • Conor

    Thank goodness Los Angeles only traded Bynum.

  • james

    Many Lakers fan says this trade is not balance then they will make their opinion trades where the lakers are the winners.

  • We

    I started to argue this wasn’t an improvement for LA. But, I changed my stance mid type. I think gasol, bynum, kobe, and nash are better talent. But, I’m not so sure it’s a better lineup than howard, Jameson(harrington), kobe and nash. I don’t know if there is enough basketballs to make the current lineup more effective the new one. A spread 4 seems to be more effective playing with Howard. He doesn’t need the ball as much as gasol/bynum would. And he makes nash’s defense against the westbrooks and tony parkers less of an issue.

    I think the Magic have turned down better offers though. I really like Andre, and I think he serves a better role as a third option. I think it’s a bad trade overall, just the least bad for LA. Which, is how most trades involving LA are.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Lakers have no excuse to not win at least the West this year. The Magic won’t make the playoffs. Awesome day as an Orlando fan. And the 76ers made out like bandits.

  • BWill82

    LA is stacked.

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