Thursday, October 11th, 2012 at 10:15 am  |  147 responses

Kobe Bryant Says Smush Parker Was ‘the Worst’


Between the departure of Shaquille O’Neal in 2004 and the arrival of Pau Gasol in 2008, Kobe Bryant was saddled with some pretty awful teammates. It’s an issue Kobe no longer faces, especially this season. Bryant took a walk down memory lane last night (he sat out the preseason game against the Blazers due to a strained right shoulder), and his acid tongue ripped into former Lakers point guard Smush Parker. Per the OC Register: “I almost won an MVP with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown on my team,’ Bryant said before Wednesday’s 93-75 exhibition loss to Portland. ‘I was shooting 45 times a game. What was I supposed to do? Pass it to Chris Mihm or Kwame Brown.’ Bryant was referring to 2005-06 when the Lakers’ roster included Brian Cook, Stanislav Medvedenko, Devean George and Parker, Mihm and Brown. Bryant continued, taking aim at his favorite whipping boy, Parker, calling him ‘the worst. He shouldn’t have been in the NBA but we were too cheap to pay for a point guard. So we let him walk on.’”

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  • charliewinning

    You’re right. We sit around getting upset that Kobe, a complete stranger, doesn’t care about what we think. Look, it’s a comment section on a website. People have opinions. People share them. No one here is looking for a change in Kobe. We can express that we feel Kobe is being his typical dickhead self without being upset about it. It’s not that serious.

  • Lorne

    True. Bron plays defense and passes the ball. He makes his teammates better so he definitely is no Kobe.

  • pposse

    every damn time i want to give up despising Kobe, he goes and does something real stupid again and again and again. Kwame still plays in the league, i will laugh so hard if Kwame commits a flagorant foul on Kobe when they meet up again

  • LakeShow

    “He can’t do anything with the ball. Don’t give it to him.” –MJ yelling at Paxson for passing the ball to Will Perdue
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    “You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can’t get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can’t even stick his ass into people and get more than that…Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward.” – MJ talking about Stacey King.

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    “It’s a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers.” In reference to Sellers lack of ability.

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    “If you pass the ball to Bill Cartwright, you’ll never get the ball from me.” – Jordan to Armstrong

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    “Why the hell don’t you ever set a pick like that in a game?” – MJ yelling at and hitting Perdue on the head.

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    “I don’t know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy.” – MJ on the Oak trade

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    Yeah, Jordan held his tongue when speaking about team mates…

  • RKJ92

    Hahahaha! I actually laughed at this chris kid he’s all proud of his comment like no one will solve it going, “I’ll wait…” Then the second nbk logs on “Caron Butler” Looooooollllllllllll!!

  • LakeShow

    I love it when facts get down voted. Makes me laugh every time..

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    just for the record, the 20secondtimeout guy is a notorious Kobe apologist. He makes good points quite often, but just as often, he ignores relevant information altogether just to justify his own point.

  • enarez

    He counters a lot of Kobe hate but he’s not an apologist. He will also often argue his point in the comments. He does a lot more than the writers and commenters who he criticizes/criticize him with strawman and ad hominem attacks.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the article above? you want me to dissect what David Friedman said, point by point?
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    1 – He didn’t mention that Gasol’s also in Los Angeles now, not Memphis. Ofcourse he is going to get more All-Star recognition. — Gasol’s real best season as a pro came in 2006-07 when he was the first option whose supporting cast included (in order of production) Mike Miller, Chucky Atkins, Hakim Warrick, Rudy Gay (who was 20 years old), and Stromile Swift. — Gasol has his most efficient, productive season as an NBA player surrounded by little talent, hopefully he would become even more efficient around Bryant….but? he didn’t. His shooting % went up, which would have happened with any other star player just by making Gasol a second option who had less of the defensive focus placed on him.
    2 – Lamar Odom, outside of 2010-11 his two best seasons came in Miami and with the Clippers. The only statistic where Kobe’s affect his pronounced, is again, in FG% – which again, is a product of less defensive focus, not in Kobe making his teammates better —- Let’s also remember, for both Gasol and Odom, each were also part of the team and each would have been the best teammate either had up until they joined Bryant.
    3 – Shannon Brown – LOL, Kobe made Shannon Brown better? By what? taking all the minutes that matter? Shannon Brown last season in Phoenix posted a PER of 13.6, which is the exact same as his career high PER of 13.6 in Los Angeles in 2010-11, when he was barely, and i mean by hundredths of a decimal, more efficient from the field.
    4 – Sasha Vujacic – You see where this is going? We have to argue over whether he made horrible NBA players any better, like a slight jump in FG% and 3pt% tell us Kobe made people better….rather than took away defensive attention and only finds people when they are clearly open. Are you really making people better when you are the judge jury and executioner on when a role player gets the opportunity to succeed? If so, then fine, Kobe made Sasha bettter.
    5 – Smush Parker – I am not even going to address this one, Kobe did it for me in the article
    6 – Kwame Brown – his point about Brown stems from how many playoff games the guy has played in, in his career — Really? Because Kwame Brown is a key cog to a playoff team? Or because he was so key to the Lakers success? And whatever he was the key to, can be attributed to Bryant? Really? Moving on.
    7 – Vladimir Radmonovic – So this really devolved after #2. Kobe made Vladimir Radmonovic a better NBA player? Only because of shooting %? Let’s ignore his PPG, RPG, TOV, and everything else, shooting % is all that matters, Kobe made him better. His 23 minutes a game, really must have come with tons of pressure and all. smh

  • http://www.facebook.com/NomrnaYoung Norman Young

    what we fail to realize is smush was a legends on the streets and would put it to kobe if it came down to the blacktop..ijs

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no he’s a Kobe apologist. He ignores information that totally contradicts what he says, he focuses on irrelevant information, basically he will only highlight things that make Kobe look better. I have read an article from that guy arguing that Michael Jordan was only slightly better than Kobe Bryant, if at all. LOL, the guy has a clear agenda and bias, everyone who has read his articles and isn’t a Lakers fan sees it. The Lakers fans though? They love David Friedman, as he is the guy who justifies their love in Bean.

  • Conor

    Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol, Shaquille O’Neal (/vice versa), and Lamar Odom have all experienced the height of their careers (and the greatest Playoffs of their careers) with Kobe, on the Lakers. Undeniably.

    The have all acknowledged his influence on their game. Hell, his training regime inspired Melo, LeBron, Paul, Chandler, and Williams to each re-evaluate their methods of practice.

    He was the only player Tracy McGrady wrote in honour of as a competitor (Yao as a player & friend). Game recognizes game. Why don’t people get that?

    Grown men and women who have played with or against Bryant aren’t obligated to speak about him with such respect. But they choose to when the topic arises. Bryant has earned his the same way that Mikan, West/Russell/Cousy/Chamberlain/McAdoo/Frazier, Dr. J, Magic/Bird, Worthy, Thomas, Rodman, Olajuwon, Jordan, Shaq, Wade, and Kareem (most similarly, historically, in transience of greatness achieved & means of achievement) earned theirs.

  • Conor

    *on their games

  • justin05

    Half of your coments have to do with Kobe. Say something respectful every now and then and I’ll take your comments more seriously.

  • Corky

    I’ll add this…

    LeBron simply laughed and giggled in his teammates faces then left them high and dry while saying he was leaving to play with better player. Implicitly telling his former players they were holding him back.

    I’ll take the direct Kobe version every time. At least you know where you stand with him and can try to get on the same (professional) page.

    Add for the record, Brown, Parker and Bynum were playing like bums. Only Bynum got his act together and now people say he’s an asshole. Go figure.

  • enarez

    1. So his shooting percentage increased but it was because he now plays with Kobe but it’s not because of Kobe? And isn’t that the definition of making a guy better? Having his stats increase? And if his FG% increases, doesn’t that mean he’s more efficient?
    2. Again, same thing. So he played his best season with Kobe but he isn’t better because of Kobe. What else do you want Kobe to do?
    3. PER? LOL. Bullshit in, bullshit out.
    4. Sasha was in the league because of Kobe. Same as Smush. Neither would have done a thing without him. That’s the definition of making a player better.
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    6. “He set his single season career high in FG% in 2007″
    7. Vlad was a shooter. His FG% went up with Kobe. The only thing he does, wants to do, or will ever do, he did best while playing with Kobe.

    Your entire post is summed up as saying that FG% is a bullshit stat. Do you want him to turn them into better passers and better rebounders? Is he a coach too?

  • Corky

    Exactly.

    Jordan used to tear into players. So did Phil Jackson.

  • Mr Cox

    He would’ve said those things regardless of who he’d be seeing…he’s got a history of bashing teammates that he’d see the next day (i.e. the Bynum incident). Call him an arrogant jerk but don’t imply that a man is a coward because he says something about someone who just happens to not be present at the time. Also, you don’t know what question was asked to spur that soliloquy, so you shouldn’t assume that he just felt like ranting about Smush Parker.

  • Ozgood

    That’s really classless of Kobe to say. There is no need to beat people when they are down. Smush was just living out his dream. How can you say he doesn’t belong in the NBA? That’s messed up. Maybe he shouldn’t have started on a team like the Lakers but I’m sure he can fit on a roster.

  • Peregrine

    SMH. Absolutely no good comes out of trashing your teammates 6 years after they were on your team. As much as I admire the man’s work ethic, he simply does not inspire or galvanizes his teammates in a way that maximizes their talent on the court. He has simply always been about getting his. Just look at what Nash has done in his last years with Phoenix, never complained, helped make career years for role players who wouldn’t see pt on any other team, and stayed positive with his team and org despite having the least talented roster in the entire nba. Night and day with how Kobe handles things.

  • Ozgood

    I bet you Jordan would’ve made Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown BETTER players instead of just bitching like Kobe does. I bet you he would’ve went further in the playoffs with he same team too. He’d of made Lamar Odom look like a superstar too.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    .If you want to argue making a player better is making their FG% go up, then every player who is better then every other player, makes every lesser player better. As defenses aren’t stupid. They aren’t going to focus on the guy who isn’t any good.
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    .Kobe makes his teammates shooting %’s better by taking away defensive attention. That’s what your arguing. You aren’t arguing he makes them better players. Because, factually speaking, none of them were better basketball players with Bryant then they were without him. Gasol’s best season as a pro came without Kobe. Odom’s second and third best season as a pro came without Kobe. .Why is PER bullshit, but FG% isn’t? shooting a higher % means your a better player while producing at the same efficiency with even more production doesn’t? Well that sounds pretty fucking stupid now doesn’t it?.Sasha was in the league because of Kobe? Or he just went to Turkey because of the lockout and had an NBA clause that expired? And was forced to stay another year? I mean he wasn’t playing almost 30 minutes a game in New Jersey or anything. You know, because guys not good enough for the NBA don’t play when they get traded and all..Kwame Brown’s best season as a pro came in 2003-04 – against FG% is a product of defensive attention, not Kobe making people better. If Kobe made people better, they would be better. They would literally play better then they’ve ever played.
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    You know what? here, let’s just end this stupid ass point how i ended another.
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    Caron Butler. – whose production as a rookie mirrored what it was as the second/third (whatever you want to argue) player on a team next to Kobe. Then he left…..and his production spiked, even per minute….despite joining worse players. (Kobe Bryant & Lamar Odom > Gilbert Arenas & Antawn Jamison) Unless you want to argue that too?

  • LakeShow

    You clearly missed the concept.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Actually, it was a few months before he saw Bynum again. Definitely not the next day.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    He made those comments during the offseason. It was a few months before training camp began.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Kwame Brown and Pau Gasol had their best seasons Pre-Kobe.
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    Odom was great in 2010-11 next to Kobe granted. But his 2nd and 3rd best seasons, came again, Pre-Kobe.
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    Shaq’s best season was 1999-2000 – Kobe’s 4th worst season as a pro, and Shaq’s production and efficiency dipped every year with Kobe from there on out.
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    Trevor Ariza – His Best Individual Season was either in Houston after Kobe, or Orlando before Kobe. One or the Other. His best season no matter how you determine it (production – efficiency – both), came without Kobe.
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    Jordan Farmar – Best season was 2011-12 in New Jersey. Both in terms of efficiency and production.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    On the court, who has Kobe made better? When has anyone ever said “Man, Kobe’s really getting Gasol going tonight”? What teammate has he made better because none of those Lakers teammates were made better by him. He didn’t make Shaq better. Shaq was going to get his regardless of who it was who gave him the ball. Pau gets his numbers in spite of Kobe not because of him. Lamar got his numbers while he was with the Lakers in spite of Kobe, not because of him. The past two seasons, Pau has gotten to a point where he’s had to say that the team should spend more time getting the ball to the big guys which is basically saying that Kobe shoots too much. There aren’t too many guys in the league who are nicer than Gasol so if he has had to say something, it holds weight. D-Wade said two seasons ago after the All-Star game that Kobe was playing like he was on the Lakers meaning he was shooting a lot. He shot bad shots this summer with the Olympic team. It’s just not his game to make his teammates better. Find one analyst who has said anything about him being a great facilitator. Kobe doesn’t belong in the same sentence with Jordan when it comes to individual achievements or team achievements. 6 Finals appearances, 0 Finals losses, 6 rings, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 regular season MVPs. Kobe’s lost twice in the Finals disqualifying him from being compared to Jordan. He doesn’t belong with Magic either who was a 3 time regular season MVP. Kobe only has 1. Seems like you just named a bunch of random legends without thinking. As for “transience of greatness achieved” and comparing him to Kareem, the only things that are keeping Kobe still in the league now is his postgame and the fact that Pau Gasol came to LA in that theft of a trade in 07. Now he has a few more seasons thanks to Dwight coming to LA. If Kobe was a better playmaker, Gasol would be a 20 and 10 guy on a nightly basis.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Yes, half of my comments on here have to do with Kobe..the half that are on posts that are about Kobe lol.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    LeBron laughed and giggled while he won 60 plus games two seasons in a row with that team and had Mo Williams worthy of being in the All-Star game and Mike Brown as Coach of the Year. He got to the Finals by beating the Pistons in a series where the teammate who played the best behind him was Daniel Gibson, a rookie. He never said a word about any teammate, waited until he was a free agent and left legitimately. Kobe begged for a trade, decided he didn’t want one, then decided he did and decided he didn’t…all in one day. Then Gasol arrived and he quieted down.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    There was no concept to miss. Only a wrong point to correct. Who else was going to start at center, 36 year old Vlade Divac?

  • Conor

    Their Playoff performances with Kobe far surpass anything they had (retired) or have yet (active) to accomplish, @disqus_rOeXXBD2qs:disqus. Forgot to include Shannon Brown, but that list is simply evidence of the truth.

    Butler was injured & he has maintained close ties with Los Angeles since his departure. Notice how he plays for the Clippers now?

  • Conor

    I remember that video he took (either at the Rucker or in China), on that park bench.

    Was the main conflict between them related to basketball or something that would be considered personal?

  • Conor

    *”…interview Parker had…”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL their playoff performances? because they all played on great teams away from LA? — I’m not arguing Kobe isn’t a great great player that people benefit from playing next to, i’m saying he doesn’t make people better basketball players. Simply because, aside from a TEMPORARY spike in FG% there is not any evidence that he does.
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    “Butler was injured & he has maintained close ties with Los Angeles since his departure. Notice how he plays for the Clippers now” <— This point is astonishingly stupid. Kobe made him better, proof of such is him playing for the Clippers!! hahahahahaha – what? — The only good thing about LA is being in close proximity to Kobe Bryant now? Come on bruh, LOL i am dumbfounded.

  • Conor

    Recently, I can draw two examples, which are microcosms of his influence: Gasol’s first Playoff game as a Laker (36 points, 16 rebounds, 8 assists and 3 blocked shots) & ensuing postseason successes; and Bynum, this past season, against the Clippers (36 points, 8 rebounds).

    Phil Jackson stated that he was a great facilitator, hahaha.

    He’s still in the League because his talent demands it. Obviously a well-supported team will extend any dedicated player’s career.

    (My apologies for any potential change in font. The Gasol stat-line is from Wikipedia)

  • LakeShow

    That is the point.
    There was no center WORTHY of starting.
    Your stupid if you don’t understand this.
    Kap said: “He had Mihn looking like a starting center”
    Meaning that Mihm is NOT a starting center, but looked like it playing next to Kobe.
    Appears as if you think he said there were no centers on the team. There were. Just not starting worthy one. Fairly simple concept…

  • peregrine

    You forget that this was all private and also hear-say from Sam Smith in the Jordan Rules. Not to mention that a lot of it is taken out of context. This doesn’t of course absolve Jordan from any of his douchebaggery since we all know he is a gigantic asshole… but I can’t recall Jordan ever shitting on a teammate like this in public. Also, Kobe has NEVER stopped gunning whether he has Shaq on his team or Kwame. Let’s stop with the bullshit that he shot that much for the Lakers’ benefit.

  • Conor

    Los Angeles was great in large part because of Kobe. Dude, these guys went to the East. Do you not understand that? The East was atrocious at the time.

    It means that he was traded from Los Angeles to Washington as part of the Kwame Brown trade (which, in turn, led to Los Angeles’ trade for Pau Gasol) and that he took what he learned from Kobe and, along with his natural talent, applied it on the court. This led to his improvement. Butler and Bryant are great friends who acknowledge each other’s talents while Butler acknowledges Bryant’s tutelage.

    He returned to Los Angeles, in my opinion, because of fate. There, Tough Juice can compete (four times during the regular season, potentially seven thereafter), student versus master. It worked out well and was likely influenced by their friendship.

    You conveniently fail to remember that Butler’s lone season with the Lakers was riddled with injury. They were in the playoffs before Butler, Odom, and Bryant all got hurt & Tomjanovic had to leave. That season was simply an exercise in poor fortune.

  • peregrine

    Point is, he isn’t keeping it real. Saying that Smush was a walk-on? There’s no such thing in the NBA. He was purposefully denigrating a former teammate to a level below what Smush was as a player.

  • Conor

    Additionally, I wrote “close ties to Los Angeles”, the city, not Kobe, the person. Family, culture, and comfort are all valuable factors when considering a profession, @disqus_rOeXXBD2qs:disqus.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The only other center on that roster was Divac. So Kobe didn’t have to make Mihm look like a starter. It was either him or old Vlade Divac, not really a tough choice to make. That’s extremely simple to see. Or should be especially if you call yourself a Lakers fan. You’re stupid if you can’t understand that it was either Mihm, Divac or no center in the starting lineup. Mihm looked like a starter not because Kobe made him look like one. He looked like a starter because he was the best option. Obvious fact.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    these guys beef like crazy

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Wait, you’re using one regular season game against the Clippers and one playoff game…how many playoff games has Kobe played in? lol. And you use one game where Phil said he was a facilitator and think that’s supposed to prove that Kobe was/is a great teammate? You can’t be serious.

  • LakeShow

    lol.
    You truly do not understand. Not even close to understanding.
    I’m so baffled i’m going to move on from this…
    Good luck in life.

  • http://twitter.com/MrM3Ls Ramel Page

    LOL I don’t even know if bragging about know Smush is a good thing. He is always around The Cage (NYC) in the Summer.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Oh thank you for such groundbreaking information Conor. I never knew that. — If what you said wasn’t related to Kobe then it wasn’t relevant. I don’t care about why people consider a profession, especially if the information is coming from some random person for some random reason.

  • T-man

    Say it with your chest, Kobe! *Kevin Hart voice*

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    smh. If you are arguing that Bryant made players better, making excuses for why they improved away from him is a contradiction. If he made them better he made them better. If he didn’t, he didn’t.
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    Did Kobe teach Butler things? Probably. Did he make him a better basketball player by being his teammate? Maybe, but there is no proof of that.
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    - And it seems to be you who doesn’t remember Butler’s lone season in LA – he played in 77 games, started 77 games, & played 36 minutes a game. — Unless you really want to argue that he was playing through an injury just for shits and giggles? seeing as how they weren’t a playoff team and finished 14 games under .500 – it’s pretty safe to say he was healthy.
    - Also, Kobe played in 66 games while Odom played in 64, the team was hardly overrun by injuries.
    - Also, Rudy Tomjanovich coached 43 games, the team went 24 and 19 in that time. When he stopped, the team continued their winning ways until around game 62 – where they finished the season 2-18 with Bryant and Butler being healthy throughout the whole stretch. — Lamar Odom went down for the year about 4 games into the losing streak…..so, i guess the argument that Lamar Odom made his teammates better may be there? Or even that Rudy T made his players better? But Kobe? Naw – no argument there at all. If you care about facts that is.

  • Baller’sOnly

    So what now? We gonna shoot’m because he AIN’T lying!? Looking at every team kobe has played on,,, what was he supposed to do?,,not shoot? Kobe was the best player on every team he played on…period.

  • Conor

    The proof is that he became an All-Star in Washington.

    I’m done.

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