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Friday, December 7th, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  61 responses

LeBron James Says the New York Knicks ‘Kicked Our Ass’


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

Taking a page out of Kobe Bryant’s book after a tough loss, LeBron James went back out for a tough postgame workout.

He was that angry following the New York Knicks’ convincing win over the Miami Heat last night. James was especially upset by the fact that New York has had its way with the defending champs in their first two meetings this season.

LeBron says the Heat need to improve, and that it starts with himself (this, despite posting 31 points, 10 rebounds and 9 assists.)

From the Palm Beach Post:

After Tuesday’s loss to Washington — Washington! — Heat players didn’t exactly project an aura of concern. In fact, what got them most irritated was when reporters followed up on Erik Spoelstra’s press conference by asking if the loss qualified as a lesson. Thursday’s locker room was quite a bit different. For the fourth time this season, and the second against the Knicks, the Heat was routed.

Or, as LeBron James put it after putting himself through a postgame workout — as if he, with 31 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists was the problem — “They kicked our ass. They have pretty much dominated us in two games.” That’s the reality, and Thursday the Knicks did so without Carmelo Anthony, hitting 18-of-44 shots from behind the arc. “We’ve got work to do,” James said. “We can’t act like, OK, let’s just sweep this under the rug. We’ve got a lot of work to do. New York is a real team, they’ve got some real good players, and we understand that.” Why did James work up a postgame sweat in the weight room? “I’ve got to be better,” James said. “I’ve got to be better. It’s that simple. I’m here, and I’m the last one to leave.”

Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh’s struggles aside — LeBron’s two sidekicks only connected on 6 of 25 shot attempts — the Miami Heat’s problems were mostly defensive: they gave up 112 points to the short-handed New York Knicks, and watched them rain in 18 threes.

LeBron James is trying to set a different, more aggressive tone for the complacent Heat. They have plenty of time to get their act together, but these types of lackluster performances are no longer easily brushed aside.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    Every NBA season I get my hopes up after David beats Goliath in the regular season…and every NBA playoffs Goliath comes out on top…maybe this season will be different?

  • Dagger

    The most telling part of this game was the beginning of the fourth. Lebron finally set out for a couple minutes with the Knicks winning by 9 or so but the momentum clearly in the hands of the Heat. The ball movement completely stopped, and what had been a porous defense before now completely collapsed. Before Lebron could check back in the Heat were down by almost 20, and the game was over.

    Wade and Bosh were just invisible in this game, especially on defense. Wade in particular has got to be more aggressive on both ends of the floor. I don’t know if it’s complacency or injury, but it’s got to be worrisome for the Heat.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Off night for Wade and Bosh. The Knicks can’t beat them in a series. Miami still has the two best players on the floor when these two teams play. Melo can’t match LeBron for an entire series. If anyone needed to practice after the game, it wasn’t LeBron. It should have been Wade and Bosh. They should be well-rested since they didn’t play in the Olympics. Bron has been playing almost nonstop for 12 months and is still almost carrying those guys on some nights. Chalmers needs to get his act together. Their biggest problem is similar to the Thunder. If they want to score, Joel Anthony can’t be on the floor. If they want to defend, he can’t be on the bench. OKC’s best scoring team leaves their best defender (Thabo) on the bench.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    I think it may have been easier for Wade to completely defer to LeBron last season since he was hurt. But since he’s healthy now, it may be tough for him to find a balance between letting LeBron take over and being aggressive when he needs to be.

  • spit hot fiyah

    they can’t have wade show up 1 in every 4 games, won’t be enough in the long run.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Knicks are SO MUCH FUN to watch right now.

  • ash

    I am a little bit suprised, didn’t think Miami will get blown out. Knicks has a better team and coach. When Iman Shumpert comes back he will be able to take Wade out the game and Tysonm Chandler has been able to keep Bosh out so now its just Lebron. Miami other players will have to play big.

  • ash

    I’ve seen that sense last year, we can be up by 10 as soon as Lebron sits down we down by 5. The ball stop moving and Wade becomes the one man show. Lebron can’t get a break

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    I think people need to realize that wade has lost a step or two athletically and isnt exactly adjusting his game well, dude is on the wrong side of 30, its not like he’s 25 and just going through a bit of a funk…

    Wade has taken a step back whereas Melo has taken a big step forward,and is easily one of the best in the L right now. I’d say Miami Still has 2 of the best 3 players on their team, instead of the BEST two, as that has not been the case. Bron, Melo,and D-Wade.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    precisely

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    cosign

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Wade has shown some pretty big signs of life recently (aside from last night) — at least on the offensive end.
    .
    Defensively tho, Wade has fallen off a cliff. He’s absolutely horrendous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    I attribute that to his athleticism, he used to bea beast on that end.

    As for signs of life, yeah. but its inconsistent. Which is another sign of an aging player.

    If he would have worked on developing a post game, and a futher improved Jumper(although it has improved since he first entered the L obviously) he’d still be dominating consistently.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i just think you have to give him more time physically. as you said, he’s on the wrong side of 30. is recovering from off-season knee surgery. it’s probably going to take him time to work out the kinks in those old legs. i assume, given he has started seasons similarly (but not as) slow in the past……
    .

    (2010)
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/gamelog/2011/#472-491-sum:pgl_basic

    .

    (2012)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/gamelog/2013/#597-610-sum:pgl_basic

  • roscoe

    NY has answered the bell…

  • roscoe

    GSW 8th seed over DAL, it happens.

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Miami has fallen in love with giving up big leads early and fighting back… Even with all their talent, that’s not a good formula for winning games! The Knicks look legit right now! Even my girl goes crazy watching them! Still have to see how Amare and Shumpert blend into this team because they will get minutes and the chemistry will change. Hope they can keep the momentum going!

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Melo can’t be better than Wade until he rebounds more in my opinion. I can’t say he’s better than Wade after only 18 games. If he maintains his statline of 26, 7 and 2 throughout the season and improves his FG%, I’ll say he had a better season than Wade and I may say that he’s better depending on the kind of season Wade ends up having. Melo’s skillset on offense is unmatched. He can score in more ways than any other player. He could improve his shot selection. Wade, even though he’s not as athletic as he used to be, is still a 24, 5 and 5 kind of player. The hits that he took early in his career are the biggest reason for him not being as explosive as he was, not age. I think he can still do it in spurts. But figuring out when to assert his will on games may be tough because he’s healthier than he was at any point last season even though he’s recovering from knee surgery. Now that LeBron has established himself as the leader of that team, Wade needs to figure out how to do what he does without having the ball as much. It’s obvious at times, just like it was in ’10-’11, that he doesn’t want to get in LeBron’s way. He’s taking a lot of jumpers. As his knee continues to get better, he’ll be driving to the basket more. The last time he was healthy which was in ’10-’11, he was capable of making plays such as that huge dunk on Kendrick Perkins. I doubt that he’s lost much in a year and a half.

  • Redd

    I expect them to make a splash before the deadline, not with Bosh of Wade, if they can’t get it together.

  • hillbilly

    Miami, you’ve just been Novak’d.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    yea yea yea….when was the last time a 5 seed or worse made it to even the conference finals? New York in ’99?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    Knicks Clips finals….funniest ever?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    pipe dreamiest.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    I don’t know who they can trade. LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem are untouchable I’m guessing. Who else would a team want from them?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The Bulls beat the Heat 3 times 2 seasons ago and we saw how that worked for them in the playoffs. I’d go with the Heat 4 games to 2 in the playoffs against the Knicks.

  • fruizm

    it would be fun…not funny!

  • http://tinyurl.com/GoingtotheKnicksGame SpeedsterNYC

    Knicks doin’ some work! http://tinyurl.com/GoingtotheKnicksGame

  • danpowers

    not if the clips somehow manage it to get rid of del negro. any other coach could get em there lol

  • danpowers

    mmmhhhh heat fans u mad?

  • Redd

    True, I mean by logic you would assume so if they can’t get it together. Cause I mean that Wiz game was a monster red flag.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    haha oops…yes I meant funnest

  • RKJ92

    AGREED LOL, Brian Scalabrine should coach them!! I’m telling you he would make a great coach haha

  • LakeShow

    Why would they be mad?
    It’s December…
    They won a chip last season. No they aren’t mad lol..

  • RKJ92

    No

  • RKJ92

    Awesome point I was thinking the same thing! I couldn’t agree more

  • roscoe

    definitely NY has a lot to prove… the playoffs will tell the tale and hopefully we get to see NY vs. MIA.

  • roscoe

    idk… not sure.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    nbk is SO MUCH FUN to read now. lol

  • theDankerNuggets

    Lebron has now realized what the rest of the Heat really need to; that the Knicks are for real, and the Heat are not going to coast through the Eastern Conference.

  • RealityCheck

    Novak looks like Peewee Herman. C’mon, take a another look.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    knicks man…. making moves this year

  • Sandy

    Agreed. I also believe the that NY won 3 of 4 games against the Heat in the regular season and we all know how that turned out.

  • RealityCheck

    Not really. This is just some more “Linsanity’. Wtf happened to that?

  • RealityCheck

    Agreed. The playoffs is a whole different game…..

  • Kmac

    Are you out of your mind! Wade used to be a 25,5 and 5 kind of person which that still would not be matching the type of season Melo is having this year. He is not even putting up 20 this year and your saying you don’t know if you can say Melo is better.I believe everyone can agree with me here and say the top 5 performers this season is Durant, Lebron, Melo ,Kobe and Cp3 hands down in that order!Dwade not even in that conversation.Heck and to top that look at what Zbo is doing 24 and 15 a game!He is not even a top 10 player this year.

  • O

    Miami is just saving their best for that playoff run. They’ll be fine, especially in a weak EC. Knicks were lucky the 3′s were dropping because a lot of those were contested. If they made 9 of 44 everyone would be sh*ttin’ on em for living and dying by the 3-ball. It’s still way too early in the season to get too excited about anything. Knicks still haven’t gotten Shump or Stat back. Once the team is complete, then we can truly see what we have in NY. But Miami will be alright, which is still scary.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    right

  • Dutch Rich

    Got their A$$ Knicked. Knicks looking real good, fun to watch indeed. But they also look like they’re truly enjoying themselves with this group. The mental damage is done, Heat will lose that series if it happens. Spoel knows it, and fortunately for him Riley knows it. Clippers btw would annihilate the Heat as well. Both teams extremely strong and deep at the point. With all the players wearing protective padding, braces, tape etc to help them perform, I find the band-aid on top of Jason Kidd’s head truly symbolic!

  • hillbilly

    There are lots of things you wouldn’t understand about Steve Novak…things you couldn’t understand…things you SHOULDN’T understand. (He’s a loner, Dottie. A rebel.)

  • Anthony Dixon

    the knicks can’t beat the nets

  • mike jones

    Nbk you are kidding me right, I believe you and i had a talk about Anthony v lebron, and i also believe I told you that Melo will out score him and become mvp, and you were telling me otherwise, also you were telling me the Knicks were not a real contender, and now you are on the bandwagon…. I know it is early in the season, but you need to stick to your gubbs and never speak about the Knicks again, cause you were on every Knicks story spreading negative. So I am telling don’t just get on the knicks because they are winning.

  • danpowers

    where can i sign that petition? lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    not gonna happen in a best of 7

  • danpowers

    because competative people take all games at least a little serious. the regular season doesnt count as much as playoff series and titles but what do you play for at all if regular season games and series dont matter at all? if it wins wouldnt be fun and losses wouldnt be annoying, why would anybody watch regular season games for then? if the knicks would have been pounded by the heat like that (as i believed they would do b4 those games to be honest) id be a at least a little mad – regardless of what my team would have achieved in the past

  • danpowers

    thats why i have glimpses of hope why the knicks could maybe win against the heat in a playoff series (if they keep their level of play): some day even lebron has to get worn out and i just hope that happens in a playoff series against the knicks lol

  • Av Joe

    grizzlies? or the jazz back in 2007 when the spurs won??

  • Av Joe

    Hope they match up in te playoffs it would be insane

  • http://twitter.com/njohnny81 Nashon Johnny

    Lebron wants to join thunder, KDs sub.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I said they are fun to watch. Not that they are a contender. And if Melo really does keep this up i will gladly admit I’m wrong. But it’s 21 games in, slow your roll. Plus I said LeBron has always scored more so you can’t call Melo a better scorer. I never said he would out score Melo this year. That would be a stupid prediction to make given the situations each player plays in.

  • Mr. BottomLine

    Finally in a long time the NYK has a Coach who meshes, communicates and has the respect of the players and holds them accountable to perform at an aggressive high level at both the Offensive and Defensive ends, not only improving their overall work ethic and attention to detail but to greatly improve in helping each other out as a single unit and TEAM!!! So far so good. This win only builds for bigger and better things to come.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shyquan.warren.9 Shyquan Warren

    no he didnt

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