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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 at 9:50 am  |  29 responses

Timberwolves Fans Heckled Kevin Love After His Comments


Kevin Love did his best to clarify what he meant when he ripped the people in charge of running the Minnesota Timberwolves. But it was too late, the damage had been done. Fans in Minny did not appreciate his candor, and let Love know about it last night. Per the Pioneer Press: “In addition to shooting 3 for 17 on Wednesday night, Dec. 12, against the Denver Nuggets, Timberwolves forward Kevin Love had to deal with trash-talking from fans at Target Center who didn’t appreciate his critical comments about the Wolves organization, team owner Glen Taylor and club president of basketball operations David Kahn. As Love struggled during the Wolves’ 108-105 victory, he admitted that he heard some heckling. Love said some of the comments might have been suitable for print ‘and some were not.’ … ‘I was ready for anything,’ Love said. ‘I heard some things. I’m not going sit here and call people ignorant or anything like that. Everybody takes a stance on something.’ Love was in the unusual position of getting heckled by Wolves fans after his public criticism of Taylor and Kahn appeared Tuesday in a story on Yahoo.com. Love declined to say what he heard, but he said he’s ‘heard worse … I have pretty thick skin.’ Love heard the normal cheers among the crowd of 16,444 during introductions of the starting lineups, but there were moments during the game in which Love had to maintain his focus after hearing choice words from fans. [...] The relationship hit a snag Wednesday night, but Love said he would “never turn his back” on Wolves fans. ‘I’m always going to have the fans’ back,’ Love said. ‘They’ve had my back since Day One, even when some people were mad about the trade on draft night. As I continued to put work in, people noticed that. If we win, and I can get back to being me — and I will at some point — people will forget.’”

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  • roscoe

    No one likes anyone who cries wolf.

  • RunNGun

    Wolves fans need to get over it and start planning for the future. The writing is on the wall. It’ll be a Love-Howard tandem in ’14 at Staples. Make it happen, Kupchak.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Love & Howard together is an absolutely terrifying proposition. i was talking about that yesterday on Twitter.

  • roscoe

    why do you think they will work well in the paint together?

  • RunNGun

    I agree… it would be intriguing. However, Love’s rebounding numbers would suffer; that’s his bread and butter. Great basketball players, if their shot is not falling, find other ways to contribute, especially on defense. If his shot doesn’t fall (with his lack of defensive prowess), what would he do when D12 owns the paint?

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    Man, other teams would never get rebounds. lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    think about it like this,

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    how many teams have two elite post players?

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    and rebounding numbers aren’t what’s important, what is? rebounding % — and Dwight and K-Love, each grab about 20% of ALL available rebounds individually while they are on the court, second chance points will be in LA’s pocket on probably 95% of their games. That’s a huge huge huge advantage.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    why do you think Kevin Love plays primarily in the paint?

  • They can clean up each others misses. And who says they will be in the paint together. Imagine Howard posting up and Love stepping out. And then Nash and Kobe on the perimeter aswell. Who is going to double-team howard then :O

  • RunNGun

    True but if that’s the case why didn’t Love and Jefferson work?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    because Al Jefferson is literally the exact opposite of Dwight Howard.
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    Dwight is an unselfish, highly skilled, and able defensive player who lacks the offensive aggression necessary to be truly dominant on that end.
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    Al is a highly selfish, highly skilled offensive player who is an absolutely horrendous, flaming pile of garbage defensively.
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    One has strengths where Kevin Love doesn’t, and the other is similar to Kevin Love, but worse.

  • Seth

    I vaguely recall Love didn’t like playing with Jefferson, or something to that effect. That kind of relationship doesn’t help.

  • Seth

    I like that Kevin is standing by his word and dealing with it rather than dancing around and trying to take things back. No fake apologies here.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that’s not true. Love actually said 2-days ago he still doesn’t understand why the Wolves gave up on them.

  • spit hot fiyah

    as much as we have made fun of khan, he should get his props for building a very solid team

  • roscoe

    i don’t. just curious to see what someone’s opinion is of the two together.

    when you look at shaq’s success, he had horace grant, ac green, haslem, and swalker amongst others on his title teams.

    when you look at duncan he had robinson and then an array of guys around him.

    kareem had several capable big guys next to him.

    the key to dh12 success is the big man who stands next to him, imo.

    i think finding two big guys that play well together is a hard thing.

    that’s it, i wasn’t coming after you.

  • roscoe

    i hear you, but everyone was saying the same about pau. albeit pau does not have love’s range he is a proven shooter.

    love has a strong inside game as does pau and that did not mesh well w/ dh12, at least to this point.

    maybe your right… just curious to hear other ppl talk about the obvious problem w/ LAL.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i don’t feel like you were, i was honestly asking you that.

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    Look, here is Love’s shooting information,

    http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kevin%20Love

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    looking at this season you can see, Love shoots only 8.1 of his 16.9FGA from inside 9 feet. Correct me if i’m wrong, but Dwight will never shoot any shots outside of that distance. So they won’t get in each other’s way much, except going for rebounds, which really really isn’t an issue. Not even a little.
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    In terms of Pau, i think you should just give that situation time, the offense they practiced together in was not suited for them. It immediately made the situation confusing and uncomfortable, which delayed the process quite a bit. obviously.
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    But Love is a better fit with Howard, he’s more active then Pau, he shoots 40% from 3 (which is outrageous for a big man), and he doesn’t need any isolation touches on the block to produce. Love is probably the best fit to put next to Howard in the whole league. Him or Bosh.

  • RunNGun

    Interesting… D12 to Minny… make it happen, Kahn. LOL

  • roscoe

    that data is good… and so is the data for pau.

    i guess i would say love and pau do not have the foot speed or consistent energy i think is needed to succeed as a big next to dh12. i could be wrong bc they are two of the most talented bigs in the league.

    just looking at what i have seen pau did well w/ bynum (slow and go), pau did well w/ marc gasol (slow and go) & love has played well next to Pek (slow and go).

    i think someone a little faster than bosh and maybe smaller would work w/ dh12. call me crazy.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what big in the world is in better shape then Kevin Love right now? i think his skin color really effects people’s perception of him athletically. not calling anyone racist, it’s just like a conditioned response. Love is as capable as any other 4 in the league aside from Josh Smith in terms of running the floor. he just isn’t there defensively.

  • roscoe

    being in better shape is not my point. I would argue love is in great shape.

    color of skin has nothing to do with it either, but i don’t mind someone asking… bosh & love are in the same athletic bucket, so to speak, imo. maybe i would say love is more athletic than bosh, probably i would.

    But i am talking about foot speed and consistent energy. my eyes say love and pau have about the same foot speed. love probably has a higher level of energy in games, but i am getting picky here.

    imo, a high energy guy, not necessarily jsmith, is what might work well specifically with dh12.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you need to adjust your eyes if you think Love and Pau have similar foot speed. or consistent energy. actually, there are only 3 bigs in the whole league i would label as having more consistent energy then Love, – Anderson Verajao, Joakim Noah, and Reggie Evans.

  • roscoe

    i just ate a cup of carrots and put on my bifocals. i will watch a love game and see what i see.

    maybe that’s just it, i think verajao is the better fit than love.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that doesn’t make sense. why would you want Verajao who is essentially a more active version of Jordan Hill? You need shooters around Dwight, not more defense and rebounding. They didn’t get to the finals with Brandon Bass in Orlando, they got to the finals with Rashard Lewis.

  • roscoe

    verajao is more of a pain in the @ss than hill, has better hands, has more experience, and is a better scorer than hill. They both claim the garbage man style of play which i certainly respect.

    that’s just it… ORL did not win it all, so rlewis combo is not ideal imo. And varejao vs. bass. Are you saying bass = varejao?

    your point is to get a stretch shooter which makes sense, but i’m not sold.

    i look at the pau/dh12 combo & love/dh12 as similar.

    maybe when dh12 gets healthy all bets will be off and it won’t matter who is out there next to him. until then it is fun to debate.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I’m saying Bass is the same type of player as Verajao – high energy, good defender, whose only real offensive skill is shooting a 16 foot jumper. With Verajao you are just adding a player who does the things that Dwight already does, plus an extra 12 or so points. You have no spacing with Verajao, Dwight will still get double teamed. It’s the same reason Marcin Gortat didn’t see minutes next to Dwight. Essentially, the more skilled the offensive big you put next to Dwight is, the more success your team will have, because Dwight is THAT good (when he’s in shape) defensively and on the boards that you don’t really need anybody whose strengths only lie in those areas.

  • roscoe

    those are some well thought out points and i like the way you break it down.

    but i think a guy like varejao has a “do whatever it takes” mentality, a happy to sacrifice for his team attitude, a raw toughness in ways champions need to be (ie haslem, bwallace, hgrant, acgreen, even drobinson w/ duncan & don’t laugh rodman even though his offense game was very limited). those unselfish qualities resonate in some players more than others and given an opportunity on a contender someone like love may get it done. obviously coach k and team usa thought highly of him, but i kind of think of him as the kid ucla and a rookie who was a little pudgy. i know he isn’t now, but…

    don’t get me wrong either bass has dedicated himself to becoming a solid player and i respect his game. also i think pau is a great player too.

    let me ask you this… do you think love has the right mental make up?

    just asking. not accusing him of being dcuz or anything, but some players aren’t winners.

  • michaelgingerly

    I’m not convinced either will be with the Lakers in ’14.

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