Thursday, January 3rd, 2013 at 9:00 am  |  15 responses

Tony Allen Says Boston Celtics Aren’t Like the 2008 Title-Winning Team

by Marcel Mutoni / @ marcel_mutoni

Tony Allen helped the Memphis Grizzlies get back into the winning column last night in Boston, as the Grizz handed the struggling Boston Celtics their fourth consecutive loss.

According to Allen, these Celtics resemble nothing like the championship winning squad that he was a part of in 2008. Allen says the C’s need to integrate new players into their system, and above all, re-establish their defensive identity.

From the Boston Herald and WEEI:

Is he surprised by the Celtics’ early season struggles this year? “You can’t win a championship in October, November, December, January. They are just pretty much ironing it out right now, get it out of the way.”

“They’re missing a lot of pieces,” said Allen, who left Boston for a three-year deal in Memphis two summers ago. Somewhat offering his stamp of approval on the replacement of Ray Allen‘s 3-point shooting prowess with fellow veteran Jason Terry, Allen instead harped on the absence of players … well … like himself. “I don’t think they’ve really got a defensive-minded guy yet,” added Allen. “I mean, they’ve got one [Avery Bradley], but I can’t say he’s 100 percent just yet. I don’t think they’ve got the center like Perk [Kendrick Perkins]. It’s kind of hard finding a guy like — a guy who clogs up the paint, talks trash to you and can actually back it up. They’re just missing a lot. I don’t know. I don’t see the same team from 2008.”

Tony Allen added that the Boston Celtics’ championship-tested veterans shouldn’t be counted out yet, however, despite their early-season struggles.

The Celtics are now 3 games under .500 (14-17), and are counting on the likes of Avery Bradley to help jumpstart their defense.

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  • Max

    You’re right Crazy Tony!

  • roscoe

    collectively they lost 330 pounds of fat.

    i mean they lost big-baby.

  • Nick

    Noooo! Really? I didn’t notice that…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it still amazes me that people even thought they’d be as good as they were last season. So….

  • Redd

    It’s because we overlooked that the pick ups they made, albeit nice on paper, didn’t mesh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    everone goes with the whole don’t count them out, these guys better turn it around quick because at this rate they could get beat by anybody

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they picked up Jason Terry, Courtney Lee, Leandro Barbosa and some rookies.


    -They already had a starting Shooting Guard. Yet they signed 3 more in the off-season.

    -Jeff Green is positionless, and i don’t expect him to find a comfortable place in any offense with how often Doc Rivers has him doing random different things. — post up in isolation here, pick and roll there, try and go one on one over here, maybe spot up in the corner right around there. — it’s hard to be consistent when your never consistently doing anything.

    -All of this, and the Celtics are still relying on Paul Pierce as a top notch individual scorer, which he isn’t anymore. He needs to fit into the offense, like last season. — instead, he’s shooting the most shots a game he’s shot since 2006-07 w/ the lowest FG% since 2003-04.

    -You can’t make your team worse defensively (Jason Terry, Barbosa, Rookies) and really expect to be successful without vastly improving offensively. And they didn’t do that at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rainman1991 Saleem Rainman

    what has he said that we dont already know? and why is this the top story?

  • Mundo


  • LakeShow

    Skies blue too…

    But I still think this team can be real good this year as an underdog in the playoffs.
    Bradley will help allot if he is healthy. That will allow them to start a defensive minded back court with an offensive minded 2nd unit. Barbosa and Terry can play together and they will need to get creative and get Lee some minutes even at the SF. Green needs to establish himself as a part of the team and not just a guy that plays there. Garnett needs to be an old beast and Pierce needs to turn the clock back (look at Kobe, start with your eating habits).
    This team can be real nice, they need to change it up and be healthy though.

  • roscoe

    good points LakeShow, but you forgot to mention Doc.

    BOS isn’t disappearing this year.

  • LakeShow

    Oh yeah.. that guy… haha
    Doc is 2nd to Pop IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/stevefoxpoetry Steve Fox

    Because the Grizzlies are on the front of the magazine. It’s just good business sir

  • ErnieD

    I think they Celtics have picked it up defensively since this article came out. They still miss Perk, but Perk didn’t rebound so much. Sullinger just pulled down 17. I think you have your answer about someone clogging the middle a little more. Tony is right though. They are a different team. They are 5 years older, which hurts Pierce and KG. However they replaced Ray (and Tony) Allen with Bradley, Terry and Barbosa. They also have Jeff Green, who busted out with a game high last night. It’s been frustrating to see him find his flow, but he’s gotten much better on occasion. I’m glad they have Brandon Bass over Big Baby. I also like Wilcox and even Collins for the role playing both are capable of. And of course, Rondo is a much better player than he was in ’08. So while they aren’t as good as they were in ’08. I think the overall level of play in the NBA has gotten worse in those 5 years. I like Tony. Good luck to him in the future. They will need it if they trade Rudy Gay this season.

  • ErnieD

    The Celtics don’t have Brian Scalabrine anymore. They should be a little better, right? Still can’t believe Danny signed him to a 5 year deal. Way to think things through, brain type guy!