Monday, March 18th, 2013 at 9:10 am  |  61 responses

Kenyon Martin Says the LA Clippers Aren’t Built for the Playoffs

by Marcel Mutoni@ marcel_mutoni

After his New York Knicks got whooped to the tune of 93-80 on Sunday, Kenyon Martin tee’d off on his old team.

Martin, clearly still bitter about the way things ended for him in L.A. last season, told the media that the Clippers’ high-flying style isn’t conducive to Playoff success.

Per the NY Times:

Martin showed his frustration midway through the fourth quarter. He swung at Ryan Hollins and fouled him hard on the arm. After the whistle, Hollins slowly walked away in pain from an angry Martin. After a video review, the referees upgraded Martin’s foul to a flagrant one. When asked if he thought he deserved a flagrant foul, Martin responded: “I don’t get involved with that, man. I’ve been around the league way too long. You know I ain’t going to comment on that.” Then came the next question: Is there any bad blood between you and the Clippers? “Next question, man,” Martin answered with a stern look.

The Clippers had eight dunks against the Knicks. Martin does not see that style of play translating well in the postseason. He remembers how the Clippers were swept by the San Antonio Spurs in the second round last year. “You can’t do it in the playoffs, so it don’t matter,” he said. “In the regular season it’s all up and down, man. We know the way the game goes in the regular season.” When asked how the Clippers would do in the playoffs, Martin gave a short answer that shouldn’t surprise many people. “I don’t care what they do,” he said, smiling. “I hope they lose every game. I don’t care.”

Bad Ass Yellow Boy!

With the Playoff picture in the Eastern Conference getting murkier by the day, Kenyon Martin and the New York Knicks should have much greater concerns on their minds than the Clippers’ postseason chances.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Used to like Kmart. Dude got embarrassed by my Clipps the other day. Lob City in full effect! Take that to the conference finals (v’s OKC). SAS is too old. A 66 game season last year f**ked them, and they’re only a year older now, whereas the Clipps are a year BETTER

  • Michelle

    He is right about the change of pace in the playoffs though..

  • Hursty

    He’s right though. The Clippers game is predicated on getting stops and using transition and semi-transition plays to score and push the tempo. If they can’t run high PnR early in the shot clock, or run drag screens or quick hitters for Green/Butler/Barnes early in the shot-clock, they basically rely on CP to create.. something. Anything. Everything?

    They also have bad/awful interior defense. Griffin is awful off the ball defensively, and is an average on-ball defender. Jordan only blocks shots – doesn’t lock guys down ala Chandler, Howard or even Nene. Lamar Odom is just… it just won’t work.

    The Clippers coming up against the Spurs or Memphis in the 2nd round will just be belted inside. Nobody is going to guard Duncan or Randolph or Gasol. They also have 2 very good on-ball defenders to each defend CP (Conley, Allen / Green/Leonard), as well as great defensive systems that force you to play at a slower pace.

    Stop CP3, you stop the Clippers. That simple. Bledsoe isn’t the facilitator he is, and Crawford isn’t consistent enough to play secondary creator for more than 2-3 possessions in a row.

    Don’t see VDN outsmarting Pop or Hollins when it comes to matchups either.

  • KevinJohnsonFan

    And the Knicks are? With or without Melo, the Knicks are old and would be lucky to get past the 1st round. Kenyon Martin, now that his game has left him, is simply out there to beat people up. Kurt Thomas and Marcus Camby were falling down for no reason yesterday. Shumpert isn’t half of what he was before the ACL injury/surgery.

  • spit hot fiyah

    Probably just sour that they did not re-sign him

  • disqus_cpgsK56BV7

    Clearly he’s bitter…and as the writer, marcel put it at the end of his article “Kenyon Martin and the New York Knicks should have much greater concerns on their minds than the Clippers’ postseason chances.

  • Ugh

    Agree. I think the players have potential to be average defenders given the right motivation. But they’re not getting it.

    Hopefully this post-season is where they realise they need a better coach, rather than trade someone who’s good for chemistry and a so-so player (i.e. Jordan) and see nothing good come of it a year down the track. I think Del Negro is a better coach than most people give him credit for – but he’s not a championship coach.

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    I’m just laughing at that tat..

  • underdog

    (my 2 cents) Thing is with the Clippers, though, maybe they are far from a championship team, but their games sold-out hard. Not to mention merchandise. So yeah, they probably won’t go deep it the playoffs, but I’m not convinced the management want to cut down the goose that lays golden eggs (aka Lob-City). I know more playoff games would bring more money (not to mention a championship), but considering where they were severeal years ago, maybe they are just satisfied with what they have.

  • Treywills68

    Souns like he still is upset but the Knicks as of right now don’t look like a playoff team either they have lost 4 straight games haven’t they? At least the Clips are doing their thing right now and it looks good. They are playing good team ball, defense, good transition ball, blocks shots, steals, lob city all good. Oh and I’m not a Clip fan not to say I don’t like them but I’m all for good ballin, they have probably the best pg in te game, the 6th man of the year in J “cross over-ankle breaker-step bak-pull up 3″ Crawford, 2 bigs that can run up the court and go get it in the air …..then very very deep bench that come off the bench to give good quality minutes and points. Whoa !!! K-Mart you need to work on keeping your mouth closed and get your game tuned up to help your team advance deep in the post season. Players need to stop hating and start playing, stop the yapping and work on your game to help your team. Show more passion in fine tuning your game, your skills, and less skill in speaking about other players and teams especially players/teams that just got “SPANKED” by another team/player.
    Peace & Blessings

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they aren’t. i don’t know why people think they are honestly.

  • shockexchange

    (Denny Green voice) “The Clippers … They were who we thought they were!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/shari.wallace2 Shari L. Wallace

    Kenyon Martin..Does NOT Speak for the Team..That Is What He Said..He SIGNS a Contract..with the NY-KNICKS..THEN..HE STARTS TALKING Trash Off the Court..as a KNICK Fan..I am concern about getting my 3 Bigs Healthly And back on the Court..as soon as Possible..The Clippers are in the Mix..Will Not Count them Out..WOODSON..PLEASE.. Tell Him to Do All his Talking On the Court..And Just Play Ball..and WIN a Game While Yr at IT..If yr going to talk about a Team..Atleast BEAT Them..He has Me So Hyped Right Now..KNICKS..KEEP AT IT.

  • makoface

    i still think theyre one player away from title contention though- legit dynasty mode that is. ideally they need a swing player or a guard who can create their own shot – who isnt paul. its too much to have the primary faciltator, the point, also the best scorer. it rarely helps in the playoffs. who knows- griffin may evolve into that guy- ala malone or barkley- but i fear he ll be more like kemp or LJ and plateau once his athleticism fades. they have all the talent to become elite defensively in the playoffs- but they dont have the phlosophy from the coach to be that at the moment. they are a stacked team with the best bench, best mix of vets and youth- but they dont feel like contenders yet- because they A. havent done it yet – nor have their stars- gone deep that is – and B. they lack the go-to scorer who can create and score from anywhere. paul is amazing, but the fact is- if your go to guy is 5’10 AND your point- your gonna have some rough nights if u need to score in the clutch night after night. who knows- i could be talking SH#T and he proves me wrong and becomes the next isiah thomas. but they had D to rely on.

  • http://twitter.com/apowellAdvocate Allen Powell II

    If you get Mollywhopped you should be quiet about another team’s ability to win games.
    Sweep around your own front door.

  • http://twitter.com/socalflem M Fleming

    Why the NJ Nets picked Martin first in the 2000 draft was a mystery then and now. Yeah he can block a shot or two but like most average ballers, his defensive presence was very limited. What K-mart has always been – way back to his Cincinnati days and at every NBA stop – is a thug. Thug’s have a role but #1 pick!?!?

    That said – the Clips are challenged and will be hard pressed to emerge beyond Round #1 of the West. The problem is NOT Grif’s average D, is NOT VDN’s coaching, is NOT CP3 being the total offense – NO the problem for the last 32 years has been Donald Sterling. Sterling could care less about winning anything as long as he gets butts in the chairs over 40+ home games. Despite the great efforts this season by many Clip’s and VDN et al, Lamar get’s it – he’s been there – Sterling will always be a player or two short of a real contendor. Further, it’s just about time for the ‘left coast’ version of The Donald to swing into action and break up the nucleus of this team in the off-season. The Clipper’s will NEVER be found deep in the play-offs until Sterling is out of the picture. GO AWAY DON!

  • LakeShow

    Because Chris Paul IS and he is in MVP form fro the most part.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Chris Paul is a title contending team? Uhm, wut

  • LakeShow

    You didn’t know that?
    Lemme ask you; was Chris Paul’s Hornets team ever better than this team?
    Did they have decent playoff success considering their teams limited roster?
    I think so.

    Chris Paul can do magic offensively with this team. Even when it is slowed down to playoff tempo. Their defense has left allot to be desired, but they have the talent to be a decent to good defensive team. So IF they buckle down on D, they can have success IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    This team isn’t that good. — Blake Griffin is the only player other than Paul who is consistently out performing his opponent. DeAndre Jordan & Jamal Crawford are two of the most overrated NBA players on planet earth. Their back up big man is Lamar Odom. That’s not a good thing in 2013.
    And Chris Paul can’t play 40 minutes a game over the course of a 7 game series without burning out.
    They aren’t contenders. Nope.

  • LakeShow

    Oh contenders is what were talking about? Way to switch everything lol…

  • LakeShow

    I took it as more they can’t win games in the playoffs, not win a chip. I think they CAN get to the West Finals. I don’t think they will though.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what did you think i meant when i said, “Chris Paul is a title contending team? uhm, wut”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    oh yeah, i mean they can win a series. i don’t even think they can win more than that tho.

  • LakeShow

    It’s Vinny more than anything. They have the talent. Even defensively.

  • http://www.newrichreport.com/gymalien GymAlien

    Lahoooo, zahherrrr (loser). But I still kinda wish the Lakers would have picked him up. lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    No they don’t. Lamar Odom is their back up big man. DeAndre Jordan is a poor one on one defender. Blake Griffin is an atrocious team defender. I don’t know of any team winning a title without an elite defensive big or anything close to it in the last 20 years. Miami is the closest thing there has been (that i can remember?), but really, they were chalk full of above average defensive bigs.

  • LakeShow

    The only team that will kill them in the post would be San An, and the Lakers. It’s about match-ups obviously. I’m just saying they would win the right match-up.
    Butler, Billups, Paul, Bledsoe, Barnes, Hill, Jordan and Blake all have things they do well defensively. If they play to their strengths on offense and defense they will be a difficult out is all I know.

  • LakeShow

    Also, Odom is better than last year by quite a bit. He knows his role.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    San Antonio, The Lakers, and Memphis would destroy the Clippers in the paint — although Paul would destroy the Lakers on the other end, that series would be a coin flip, leaving whichever team emerges too exhausted to win in the 3rd round. – assuming they both somehow get through San Antonio and Memphis/Denver respectively.
    Or they will be playing Oklahoma City.
    Basically, the Clippers are screwed.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    He is still bad tho. Don’t act like being better than last year means anymore than smelling better than dog sh*t.

  • LakeShow


  • LeroyShonuff

    Who available is a championship coach? Phil Jackson is not coaching the Clippers unless he get’s absurd money and Donald Sterling ain’t doing that. Pop isn’t leaving SA either. Heck Erik Spo won a title last year and he coached against Scott Brooks!!! Vinny Del is just as good as them two. But I see your logic but it’s not like the market is flooded with great proven coaching talent.

  • LeroyShonuff

    LJ hurt his back and Kemp became a raging alcoholic. But I see your point. Blake is still young tho, he has time.

  • LeroyShonuff

    Uhh Kenyon was borderline 20 and 10 with the Nets before he got traded and all the injuries hit him. Also what criminal record does Kenyon have to call him a thug? Stop spewing media lies sir. Also Kenyon was the best College player at Cincinnati too

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    To me I feel like the league is at a severe lack of talent it is so sad. Lol And Sterling being as cheap as he is makes it worse. All these overpaid guys with potential. This would be the last.year I let Deandre average less than 12 rebounds and stay on. If he could develop intoa weapon in the most modest means of the word they would get better ten fold. They need to get a legit slashing wing. To me that is something all great teams need one guy who is about 6’4-6’8 who has a decent dribble who cut the defense and get at that rim at the
    2 or the 3 position .They got Butler too late for that and Crawford is a shooter.

  • shockexchange

    Paul George should copy Horry Jr’s uncanny ability to align himself with teams with “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” so he can become a star.

  • Bill

    since when did he become a messenger of truth??perrenial loser and HE ALWAYS, shows his ignorance.

  • j

    can you stop putting random capital letters on words? its driving me crazy

  • davidR

    memphis too

  • The Fury

    …and he’s the only guy worth taking as 1st overall in that class.

  • LakeShow

    Somehow forgot about the best Western teamsince All Star break… Yeah them too lol.
    I don’t know though. I still have a decent amount of faith in Paul to lead the Clips to some nice playoffs wins in a Clipper jersey.

  • ThatManSam

    Who were the Nets supposed to choose? The 2000 draft was weak

  • FreeJack

    K-Mart knows a little something about not being able to win in the playoffs.

  • FreeJack

    My guess is, CP3 makes replacing Del Negro part of his contract negotiations. VDN is a pick and roll coach without a real understanding of defense…which stands to reason, since that’s the kind of player he was.

  • The Philosopher

    Lakers’ last two championships…
    No dominant defensive bigs.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Well if you look at minutes instead of starts, Bynum filled that role. Lamar was a top 10 PF, and Gasol a top 5 Center. They just started both their real bigs. And Odom was a much better player than now

  • The Philosopher

    Bynum a dominant defensive big? At any time in his career?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    not in the sense that we would traditionally call someone a dominant defensive big. But yes.


    For those Lakers teams, Bynum’s length, and ability to rebound with the other guys he was with on the court. He may not be individually dominant, but with him on the court the Lakers were elite defensively. Especially in the playoffs.

    . Here is an article highlighting what Bynum meant to LA defensively in the Finals, http://aloneinthecorner.com/post/690260303/nba-finals-advanced-defensive-numbers

    Does this make sense? If not, I can dig deeper, try and round this out better.

  • LeroyShonuff

    Then he needs to hire a top defensive assistant then.

  • LeroyShonuff

    Hindsight is 20/20. He was consensus number 1 at that time. Nobody knew how bad that draft was gonna be

  • http://www.facebook.com/shari.wallace2 Shari L. Wallace

    j.. I Can Post The Way I Like..I Don`t Need Yr Permission From You..Who Made You the POST COP..For this Site..See I Did It Again And U Still Read It..IT`s Called A FREE COUNTRY.. Ha..And Kenyon Martin..Has Me HEATED..Because He is Running His Mouth..Instead of Winning the FREAKIN Game Last Night..GOT IT..

  • The Seed

    Clippers will disappoint in the Playoffs like last year and CP3 will probably get hurt again. Poor CP3, he is wasting his career in Clipper land, it will be too late, once he realizes it. BOOK IT!!

  • LobCity

    The Clippers will be fine and compete come playoff time. Do they have flaws? No doubt, but so does every team. They wont win a ring/championship? Maybe not, but that statement will apply to all but one team in a few months so what does that really say. Last year they faded down the stretch and fell to 5 seed and all the doubter talked about how they’d lose to Mem. Caron Butler BROKE his hand, Blake sprained his knee, and CP3 injured his hamstring in that series and they still won! Even finished the series with a game 7 in memphis. They got worked in the next series because the Clippers were injured and the spurs have Greg Popovich. The man is a brilliant coach.

    This year the Clippers replaced Young, Foye, Mo Williams, Reggie Evans & Martin with Barnes, Hill, Crawford, Odom, Turiaf, Hollins (upgrade). So the playoffs will slow things down and teams will try to force Paul to create everything? Sounds like they might need another playmakers who could run the offense, create for others and hit an outside shot like Chauncy Billups! Then you factor in Bledsoe, Griffin & (to a lesser extent) Jordan have a improved and VDN can’t possibly do worse, seems like they might be ok.

  • The Philosopher

    I mean, most big men, some may suppose, can achieve remarkable numbers and statistics when paired with a Pau Gasol. One who is able to adapt to another big man’s style. Because of his understanding of one’s tendencies.
    Gasol can make another big look solid.
    So in that regard, I can see how Bynum might be considered an elite defensive big.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Sanchez

    dudes know no half court offense

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    He’s bitter. But he’s aright

  • phi slam

    Yo man this is ridiculous, he gets asked what he thinks of the Clippers play off chances and he just answers then you have the balls to make a note he should have other concerns on his mind, dont do that SLAM

  • pposse

    lol at all of you already making built in excuses for this Clippers team if they flop in the playoffs. This is by far the best team CP3 has quarterbacked by a 1,000 miles and still this team is only good for maybe 1 playoff series win?!

  • Anthony Dixon

    cp3 still hasn’t signed lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/rig.veda.94 Rig Veda

    I would like everyone to petition to fire vinny del negro. Somone has to do something to save the team.