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Friday, July 5th, 2013 at 9:30 am  |  180 responses

Dwight Howard Reportedly Turned Off By Kobe Bryant’s Pitch


Kobe Bryant was his unflinching self during the crucial free agent meeting with Dwight Howard this week. The focus of the Los Angeles Lakers’ presentation to Howard was on winning championships and creating a lasting legacy, but according to reports, Howard wasn’t a big fan of Bryant‘s approach. Per ESPN: “Bryant and (Steve) Nash told Howard that while other teams may seem better positioned to win in the immediate future, only the Lakers had players who actually had won multiple championships and knew what it took to win them. Howard, who is hoping to have a decision by Friday, repeatedly stressed in the meeting that his main goal is to win titles, sources said, and Nash and Bryant argued that while they are both older than the Houston Rockets’ James Harden and Chandler Parsons, as well as Golden State’s Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson, only his teammates in Los Angeles actually have ever won anything. Bryant told Howard he needed to ‘plant his roots in one place and grow.’ He said there always would be issues to deal with in whatever city he plays but that he would be better able to deal with them once he commits to one team and one city, sources described. Howard, at one point, asked Bryant and Nash how healthy they truly would be next season, sources said. Bryant assured Howard that he believes he will return to an elite level. Nash told Howard that he is confident he will get back into the kind of shape he was in before breaking his leg in the second game of the season. He also asked Howard to give this group of players another chance to make up for an injury-riddled 2012-13 season. [...] Sources close to Howard tell me Kobe’s reported pitch in Tuesday’s meeting about teaching D12 how to win will be a ‘complete turnoff’ to D12.”

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  • OfftheWall87

    No surprise here. Doesn’t look like the Lakers really had much to say to him worth listening to. Should have brought in Magic and Kareem.

  • pposse

    what the likelihood of DH actually making the decision today?

  • Al

    Don’t blame Dwight I would have been turned off by Kobe’s speech

  • James

    You guys have terrible editors. The first sentence is grammatically incorrect.

  • shockexchange

    Two things. Of course Rent-A-Center would be turned off by Horry Jr’s pitch – the pitch was pejorative. A more accurate statement would have been that (Horry Jr voice) “I can teach you how to align yourself with ‘exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L’ so you can win a chip. Secondly, the Lakers should have also called in Robert Horry – Horry Jr’s mentor.

  • Jer dawg

    I’m burning that SLAM cover of Dwight Howard from last year today. F Dwight Howard.

  • JDRCRASHER

    Well we’re screwed.

  • theman45

    One thing. You are easily the most annoying person on SLAM.

  • Hay c

    This is yet again another misleading slam article. You have to read all the way to the end of the article to realize that Dwight never said he was turned off by Kobe’s pitch. An anonymous person gave his own personal opinion that he thought Dwight would be turned off.

    And yet we’re going to have tons of page views and comments based on deceptive editing.

  • Dagger

    Maybe a bit random, but Kobe reminds me a lot of Jerry West sometimes.

    -Laker wing.
    -Clutch reputation.
    -Insanely talented scorer.
    -Won with a dominant big.
    -Very hard on his teammates.

  • Dagger

    Honestly, I genuinely don’t think Howard’s teammates will care that much if he leaves. Essentially Kobe challenged him to get better and fall in line. I think that only under those conditions would Kobe have welcomed him back.

  • Praveen Bp

    Dwight better leave Lakers… Good for both…Kobe said what he had to… If you feel what kobe aid is complete turn off.. Its nt gonna work out again…

  • OfftheWall87

    Yep. Which isn’t what Dwight wanted to hear. I don’t think they have much respect for him as a competitor. And Dwight doesn’t like how they do things.

  • OfftheWall87

    Hang out here for a day or two…you’ll see more.

  • OfftheWall87

    Not misleading. What were you misled into believing? Are you upset because you had to read the entire thing to get to what you were looking for? If so, that’s not about SLAM, it’s about you and your laziness. Until Dwight announces his decision, it’s all speculation. SLAM isn’t reporting anything that other sports websites, networks, etc. aren’t reporting.

  • Dallasdipindot

    Let the baby walk. We might stink one year but the Lakers will win a title before Howard will.

  • OfftheWall87

    Yeah, how did a proclamation like that work for Dan Gilbert and the Cavaliers?

  • Margarita Mitchell

    Kobe can’t show Dwight how to be a winner it’s not in him. I am surprise why so many teams want this wishy washy clown. He asked Houston to go get Josh Smith why? (Suppose to be superstar why you always asking players to come with you? Before it was Houston, Atlanta , Los Angeles and Dallas now he has included Golden State to confuse matters further. He said he will have the answer Today that sounds too good to be true.(Dwight) I will go to Duh! I change my mind I will go to ???

  • shockexchange

    You’re annoyed? How do you think poor Rent-A-Center feels … having some glorified role player tell you how he going to show you how to become a champion?

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    I may not agree with everything Shock says, but I applaud his creativity and sense of humor.
    I’d rather read about him quoting “The Rules” than reading the thousands of generic “Kobe has 5 rings”, “Lebron’s hair line”, “Lin shouldn’t even been in the league”, “Chris Bosh is a homosexual dinosaur” comments that we see here every day.

  • OfftheWall87

    Kobe’s not a role player. Hasn’t been since 1997.

  • OfftheWall87

    He’s the best center in the league regardless of his maturity issues. Best free agent available. A team gets him and they get a 20/13 player who can and will protect the rim and give shooters open shots. You can sit here all day making fun of him and his indecisiveness. But none of that takes away from his production.

  • shockexchange

    Tell ‘em Meat-Hook.

  • MUBWAR

    exactly what I was thinking. welcome to tmz y’all

  • shockexchange

    He’s a glorified role player and that’s why Rent-A-Center was so offended by the implication that he can show Rent-A-Center how to be a winner.

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    So… Dwight said he’d make the decision today. Any leads to when exactly?

  • MUBWAR

    have you been drinking again Shock? i don’t like kobe personally, but a role player? how many role player at 34 average 27 5.6r 6a and 1.4s.

  • john

    west did draft him

  • john

    or rather trade for him. my bad

  • Mike From Spain

    If it were only for basketball reasons and not marketing / sentimental reasons, the Lakers should buy out Kobe (they’d save so much tax money it is insane), and amnesty MWP. That would leave them with a cap of 41 million according to hoopsworld.com. That’d be about 25-30 million under the cap. They could get one or more of these:
    - DH12 – max (15)
    - Iggy – how much does he command these days?
    - AK47 – 7 m
    - Pekovic (back up plan for DH12)

    With Pau and Nash, and two of these, you could get a transition year starting 5. They could probably get a bench too, if they manage to sign and trade someone else they don’t want in their current bench.

    If the FA haul is not good, get a few non guaranteed contracts to get to the salary / roster minimum, tank and have a go at rebuilding next year with a drastically renegotiated contract for Pau (he should be getting at most 7 million for his last 3 years).

    I guess it’d be hard for LA to root after a team with , potentially, 4 out of 5 foreign starters …

  • shockexchange

    He put up those numbers while surrounded by “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L.” The Shock Exchange could have averaged at least 25ppg playing on that Lakers team. Let Rent-A-Center walk and see what Horry Jr does then. Guarantee he’ll retire by mid-season.

  • OfftheWall87

    Don’t be stupid. Dude just came close to winning the scoring title.

  • OfftheWall87

    He is no longer surrounded by that talent. One of the reasons he did so much work is because of the injuries they had.

  • shockexchange

    Is that you Horry Jr?

  • cajr23

    its clear steve nash and mike d were the first two huge mistakes the lakers made. the third was not hiring Jackson. he is a much better fit for this team. im sure they realize this team is finished after next season and if they get younger and faster, then mike d is a better fit. but I just cant see mike d feeding howard they ball all night long playing a half court game.

  • jjrdastar

    How many titles did they win before their proclamation?

  • MUBWAR

    just imagine what a healthy Kobe and a healthy dwight can do together. that will be some sweet music on the basketball court man

  • shockexchange

    True. But it would be sweet music where ever Rent-A-Center goes. However, Horry Jr without Rent-A-Center or “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” would be an epic fail.

  • The_Eternal1

    Calling him the best center in the league doesn`t really carry as much weight as it once did. With his size and athletic ability he should be the best big man in the game, because he`s only 1 of maybe 4 big men in the league.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    wait, do you really need a direct quote to understand that Kobe’s comments were not what Dwight wanted or needed to hear? Telling the guy that he has to change how he plays, and just basically shut up and learn from Kobe was never going to make Dwight happy. It didn’t make him happy when Kobe called him and said largely the same thing last summer. This shouldn’t make you upset, and it sure shouldn’t surprise you.

  • playa

    Jerry was/is like a father to Kob & is probably the closest one from lakers legends,needless to say i f*cking love Jerry and i find him and Larry to be the only white players i wanted to play like, being white myself.

  • OfftheWall87

    …He is the best big man in the league. 21 and 15 his last season in Orlando. Better numbers than any other power forward or center you can name. 17 and 12 coming off of back surgery. Probably shouldn’t have been playing at the beginning of the season. Led the league in rebounding. 19 and 12 per 36 minutes in the playoffs against the Spurs. He’s still that dude.

  • OfftheWall87

    What does that have to do with this at all? Did you read the comment I responded to? Do you see any relation between your comment and my response to his comment? No one said anything about what happened before the proclamation. You brought that up for what reason?

  • kahanamoku

    haha. exactly

  • kahanamoku

    if youre a laker fan, be a laker fan. respect what the champs have done and are doing. its worked in the past, and will work again. we are the premier franchise in this sport. we will be back on top soon!

  • black mamba

    So I guess he was a role player when he average 35.4 in the 2006-2007 season” smh you most be drunk”.

  • spit hot fiyah

    and also gave him pau gasol

  • Chris

    Since when does Howard like how anyone does anything? If he can’t learn to mesh with a franchise that has won more titles than any other NAB team the last 15 years, and done so by focusing on talented big men, maybe the organization isn’t the one with the problem?

  • Chris

    Sorry, should read “NBA team”.

  • spit hot fiyah

    and dragged an orlando team to the finals that had no business being there, talent-wise

  • Chris

    That’s assuming Jackson was going to accept the job. Nobody knows for sure that he would have.

  • Chris

    Anyone else find it ironic that Howard may announce his decision from Colorado – the same place where Kobe destroyed his own image 10 years ago?

  • hookedonnews

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to predict that Howard would be turned off by Kobe’s “listen and learn” speech. I don’t know if Kobe is arrogant or stupid. Surely he knows by now that this kind of stuff doesn’t sit well with Howard. It makes you wonder if he really wants him back in LA.

  • shockexchange

    Funny how Horry Jr didn’t include that season in his pitch. He only talked up the years in which he aligned himself with “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” so he could win a chip.

  • YOYOYSUITES

    Lakers miss playoffs next year, only to end up drafting Wiggins and signing Lebron James…

  • Fitone82

    Kobe should be hard on him. He understand it’s a business and any business is about the bottom line-winning. Dwight is nothing more than a big ass baby that wants his butt kissed. Let him walk; in the long run the Lakers will be off without him.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i don’t know what fandom has to do with any of this.

  • Jay Cutler

    Please look at what the headline says and compare it to what the last line says.

  • Jay Cutler

    I’m not commenting on whether or not Dwight is happy.

    I’m saying that the title is saying something completely different from what the actual article is saying.

    Do you see anywhere in the article where someone (including dwight) reports that he has been turned off by Kobe’s pitch?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    “Sources close to Howard tell me Kobe’s reported pitch in Tuesday’s meeting about teaching D12 how to win will be a ‘complete turnoff’ to D12″
    .
    - i mean, it’s just “sources” but it’s still in the article. plain as day.
    .
    is it the phrase “will be” instead of “was” ? is that why you guys don’t like the headline?

  • Bill

    If Dwight Howard leaves it could end up being a HUGE blessing in disguise for L.A. He still has not played a complete season post back surgery and his stats are in decline. If he goes to the Warriors or Houston, it’ll take at least one season to mesh and potentially get out of the west, but Howards decline will likely only be more apparent by then. Not to mention, they’ll have to deal with a completely re-loaded Lakers squad that can potentially include players such as LBJ, Paul George and John Wall.

  • LAKERS FAN

    KOBE HAD HIS TIME AS A FRANCHISE PLAYER. HE IS ACTING SELFISH AND DOESN’T WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO BE THE LAKERS’ FACE. SHAQ IS RIGHT D12 HAS TO BE MORE SELFISH BECAUSE HE IS THE FUTURE OF THIS ORGANIZATION.HE HAS TO COMMIT HIMSELF LIKEWISE ROGHT NOW.

  • apjohn316

    As a lifelong Laker fan……. Let this guy walk. He neither a winner nor a champion. If possible do a sign and trade and move on…

  • Shaka Saphir

    WTF, why don’t you misfit ass article columnists try actually printing something that is actually taken from the lips of the person you’re writing about. In reading this article,it seems to me that D12 is more interested in how healthy Kobe and Nash will be for the upcoming reason,rather than being turned off by Kobe wanting to teach him how to be a champion and win titles. Just like MJ & Magic before him,they had to teach their team mates how to be champions with their determination,desire and drive to be champions. All you piss poor ass columnists ever do or say is, sources have stated this,that or the other. Try doing your damn job and get some real facts for a damn change, rather than
    reporting here say BS. Thus 3/4 of this article isn’t worth the tissue I use to wipe my ass,
    because the “headline” of the article is based on unknown sources as usual and if I were your editor,I’d fire your dumb ass based on incompetence.

  • OfftheWall87

    “Dwight Howard Reportedly Turned Off By Kobe Bryant’s Pitch”….”Sources close to Howard tell me Kobe’s reported pitch in Tuesday’s meeting about teaching D12 how to win will be a ‘complete turnoff’ to D12.”….What did you miss?

  • OfftheWall87

    You thought it was necessary to type a full paragraph about something you say isn’t worth the tissue you wipe your behind with?

  • OfftheWall87

    You make it sound like he was the one who pulled off the trade to get Gasol. He didn’t align himself with anyone. He played with the players management brought in just like every other player in the league.

  • pposse

    a month before they got Pau Kobe whined and complained, went on the radio with Stephen A Smith talking about how he wanted to get traded. “yeah bro” was the quote when he was directly asked if he wanted a trade. Reports in Chicago were popping up about how he was looking for houses out here. Don’t be naive, Kobe forced the hand the Lakers played, he very well did pull off that trade, with a cooperative Jerry West ofcourse.

  • shockexchange

    He was talking about leaving LA after Shaq left and the team started losing. Once Gasol came, miraculously the “I’m leaving LA to align myself with a team with ‘exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L’” subsided.

  • OfftheWall87

    The major problem is Kobe’s willingness to let Dwight be the man as he diminishes as a player. Not just him, but Gasol also. He seems reluctant to do that. It’s in both his and the team’s best interest to let Dwight and Pau be the main options on offense while he does a little here and there but takes over in the fourth quarter. So Dwight can go elsewhere and have an offense ran through him. It’s not about him meshing. Going by what Kobe said, he wants Dwight to just listen, learn and play behind him. I can see why he wouldn’t want to do that when he’s the best big man in the league. He has a right to want to be the number one option on a team. If he’s not going to be that in LA, he has the right to leave. And if he does leave, it looks like no one in the Lakers organization will be shocked.

  • OfftheWall87

    Did he trade for Gasol himself?

  • OfftheWall87

    Forcing a hand and making the trade himself are two different things.

  • Genuinebaldskin Rulaid

    I hate that they are begging this dude to stay, we dont need some hoe made dude on the squad!

  • CHUCK

    let the cry baby leave..he is just looking for an exit..first he doesn’t like the coach..then he doesn’t like the fans..now..it’s kobe and Nash who he is turned by…well.. I am turned off by him…leave already..let someone who is willing to “work” and get a title

  • Shaka Saphir

    Because maybe like D12,you don’t have what it takes to want to be a champion and in my book,any team mate who doesn’t want to be or learn to be a champion,isn’t worth playing with and if I know that about you,then I sure as hell wouldn’t want you any team of mine,whether professional or pick up.

  • shockexchange

    Who made the trade is irrelevant. The point is that (i) after Shaq left and LA didn’t have “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” Horry Jr cried like a baby and planned on leaving and (ii) once Gasol came and gave LA “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” Horry Jr stayed. Now he’s begging D12 to stay because he knows he can’t win a chip without “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L.”

  • pposse

    kobe assisted in that trade plain and simple. The trade would have never happened without Kobe’s complaints and Jerry West’s ability to just trade away a guy who was single handedly bringing the Grizzlies into the playoffs year after year.

  • GroverSage

    No, Chris. Nobody remembers that or even remembers Kobe destroyed his image.

    I do know that Kobe jerseys are in the top 5 for sales, out of a league of 360 players.

  • Lloyd

    The difference between “will be” and “was” is pretty substantial, since it basically makes the entire article based on some anonymous person who may or may not even be that close to Dwight, giving their opinion of how he’ll react (having not done so yet). Even though we all know it probably to be true, it has the same credibility as writing a sensationalist headline because “nbk has the feeling that Dwight is going to do this or that possibly”. Fact is Dwight hasn’t reacted, even to these “sources close to Howard”, so this is basically some high school gossip.

    Regardless of word choice and likelihood to be true, it’s yellow journalism at it’s finest.

  • pposse

    completely agree

  • Stim

    Less than Boston which is ALSO irrelevant.

    Laker fans will always have the past, and it’s getting further and further away.

  • Junkie

    You can’t talk to Dwight like that…he’s just a baby with an ego.

  • OfftheWall87

    Assisting and making the trade himself are also two different things. Dude said that Kobe aligned himself with talent…no, management aligned him with talent. That’s the difference. This is so simple.

  • OfftheWall87

    Stupid, when you say that a player aligns himself with talent, that means that he picked the players he wanted to play with. Management picked Gasol and traded for him to help Kobe. You usually sound pretty foolish, but this is embarrassing even for you. The Horry Jr. thing makes you sound obscenely ignorant.

  • pposse

    he put out an ultimatum on national tv for everyone and their momma to discuss for over a week’s time. Demanding that he get help, or if he does not get help, he walks. If you can’t see that then idk, or if you condone ultimatum’s then that’s on you.

  • shockexchange

    By not bolting LA like he had be crying about doing for months, it was a de facto alignment of “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L.” For the avoidance of doubt, Horry Jr is the type of guy who has to call Shaq, Pau Gasol / Andrew Bynum at the same ___ time or Pau Gasol / D12 at the same ____ time before he decides to go the park or not. If they aren’t going then he stays in the house.

  • GroverSage

    Los Angeles fans should get used to the fact that Jerry Buss is no longer with us. There is a new era, one that will have the Lakers as ‘just another team’

    This may be hard to accept, since the Lakers have almost a 50% chance of reaching the Finals, historically speaking.

    But the bottom line, that everybody seems to sense is that they have painted themselves into a corner. Howard was signed because he was the only hire available once Bynum’s knees gave out. Kobe, Gasol & Nash are very close to retirement. They haven’t had a good draft pick. The bench is replaceable.

    When Jerry Buss was in his prime, the Lakers made things happen. I remember when a team that already had Kareem and Magic were able to draft Worthy. Totally insane. That analogy would have the lakers drafting Kevin Durant. Clearly the talent in the NBA is elsewhere.

    Even the Clippers know they are in a better position.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    or maybe, “will be” is a typo.
    .
    And it is supposed to say “was”
    .
    Considering the multiple reports i’ve read from various, unrelated journalists and people with “sources”, and what happened last summer after Kobe called Dwight and flatly told him it would be his team when Kobe retires, it’s pretty easy to believe this report.
    .
    Infact, thinking what Kobe said had anything but a negative impact on their chances to retain Dwight seems more like speculation and irrational thought than believing what is being relayed by just about every respectable NBA “insider” – really.

  • shockexchange

    OfftheWall87, the Shock Exchange doesn’t do the “back in forth.” You have two choices, shut your mouth or pick a park. The Shock Exchange advises you to shut it under your own volition cause if he ever catches you on a basketball court he’ll shut it for you.

  • OfftheWall87

    Again, this is very simple. Read carefully and slowly. shock exchange said he aligned himself with talent which means that he picked Gasol himself and made the trade. That’s the obvious implication. That did not happen. He said he wanted to be traded, changed his mind and after seeing that he was unhappy, the Lakers, as they had been known to do before, pulled off a blockbuster trade. Once Gasol arrived, Kobe was cool as anyone else would have been had Gasol been traded to their team.

  • JOHNNYBOY

    Maybe if LBJ, PG, and Wall take salaries the size of peanuts. (Nope)

  • OfftheWall87

    That “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” line is extremely worn out. Just as the Horry Jr. name you pulled out of nowhere. What’s remarkable about all of this is Kobe didn’t even beg Dwight to stay. He told him about the history of the franchise and then told him that he wasn’t going to be changing anything. That’s not begging. It’s really the exact opposite.

  • pposse

    this is very simple trasitive property in play here: kobe’s ultimatum = managements decision to trade = aligning team with stars

  • shockexchange

    Out of curiosity, when the Shock Exchange mentions “Horry Jr” how did you know who he was talking about?

  • JOHNNYBOY

    I also know that in pickup games, I will goal tend at least once to anyone wearing those hideous jerseys. (;

  • OfftheWall87

    What you mean is that you’re intellectually incapable of doing the “back and forth”. So what you’re saying is you have nothing to say anymore? Cool. Would have been better for you to stay quiet from the jump.

  • RJS

    Much ado about speculation, amounting to nothing.

  • OfftheWall87

    Kobe’s comments led to the decision. But it was management’s decision. They could have called his bluff. Or traded him. Or kept him and let him keep saying whatever he wanted to say. He didn’t align himself with anyone. That’s the bottom line.

  • OfftheWall87

    Who else could you be talking about? Who is this story about? Dwight and Kobe. You’re obviously not talking about Dwight. You refer to him as “Horry Jr” on every Kobe story you post on. What in the world is wrong with you?

  • pposse

    cause stone cold said so!

  • shockexchange

    Talk about “intellectually incapable.” You got emotional and never mentioned one fact on this entire thread. You merely gave the Shock Exchange “back talk” and had to have the last word – that can only mean one thing …

  • Lloyd

    Maybe it was. It’s still a typo that makes the article considerably less credible. I mean just hearing, “someone who knows Dwight says he says he’s turned off by the pitch” is still gossip rather than really news, but it still holds more weight than “yea he’s probably going to hate it…dunnooooo”.

    Like I said, it’s possibly true given Dwight’s reputation and past behaviour, but articles like this aren’t helping the “Dwightmare”. Dwight isn’t doing anything to help himself, but stuff like this isn’t article worthy and will probably just garner more hate towards Dwight when he really hasn’t done anything in this particular instance. The media makes Dwight more hated than he should be and this article is a prime example of it.

  • OfftheWall87

    I mentioned nothing but facts about Dwight’s game, statistics and Kobe’s mindset the past couple of seasons. What did you mention besides sentences that included the phrase “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L” and the name “Horry Jr”?

  • tklsmooth

    I think many Laker fans feel the same way I do regarding Dwight Howard
    : Just announce where you’re going so we can go forward with or without you ! stop hloding us hostage ! Trust me, he already knows where he intends to go but aside from the obvious positives signing with the Lakers would mean he should also consider financial support for the 8 children he fathered with 8 different women ! That extra year on the contract, and that extra $30 million that no other team can offer him will come in handy, especially when the mothers start asking for more, which they are sure to do !

  • OfftheWall87

    Kobe wants to win his way. Dwight wants to win his way. Their ways are different. It’s not complicated. It’s not about Dwight wanting to be a champion. He’s well within his right to not want to win Kobe’s way which is what Kobe wants and what he told him.

  • shockexchange

    Two indisputable facts … unless of course you’re an Horry Jr stan.

  • OfftheWall87

    “Kobe Bryant was his unflinching self during the crucial free agent meeting with Dwight Howard this week”…That sentence? Find one grammatical error in it.

  • OfftheWall87

    Two examples of BS. He’s the 2nd greatest two guard to ever play behind Jordan. He no longer has that much talent on his team. Even if they had been healthy this past season, the team was top heavy. After Gasol, Howard and Nash there was a huge dropoff in talent. So that’s also no longer a fact.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange was referring to Steve Blake but you assumed he was referring to Kobe. That’s mad disrespectful son.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    YOU CLICKED AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS AND RUMORS SECTION.

    .”The media makes Dwight more hated than he should be and this article is a prime example of it.”

    .
    The problem is that you are reading something out of context. Please show the ability to figure that out.
    .
    SLAM is relaying news and RUMORS from other sites. These stories need headlines to get people to read them.
    .
    If you don’t want to read rumors, don’t click on articles under a section that explicitly says RUMORS.

  • shockexchange

    Robert Horry would be a far better comparison for him than Jordan.

  • OfftheWall87

    Award for most idiotic comment in SLAM’s website history goes to you.

  • OfftheWall87

    You do realize you just said Robert Horry would be a better comparison for him, don’t you? And now you say you were referring to Steve Blake?

  • shockexchange

    He’s the biggest winner of his era just like Robert Horry. Apparently you disagree. That’s mad disrespectful son.

  • MikeC.

    Dude, give it up before you smash your phone/computer out of frustration. Shock doesn’t appear to care about winning the argument. He just enjoys having the argument.
    That being said, keep at it. This has been fun to read.

  • MikeC.

    Then start your own NBA website, call Dwight and ask him straight up. I’m certain he’d take your call.

  • shutup

    So quickly joy turns to anger, Laker fans rejoiced on his signing now, they understand the saying “you lose em, how you get em”……

  • msrita

    Who Cares what you think dummy non of wanted you on the team. Peace out and good riddance Ego go away please.

    Thanks for you horrible memories

  • msrita

    I was not happy He is a Drama King in His own mind.

  • shutup

    you were the minority then, this board was full of fans that thought his signing equaled a championship.

  • JIMMYLIMO

    Trade Dwight Howard for Marc Gasol, straight up… the Gasol Brothers RIDE AGAIN ! Yeeehaw !

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    this article is in the news and RUMORS section.
    .
    the only thing that’s incompetent is your ability to read.

  • shockexchange

    What’s there to argue about? Here is the Shock Exchange’s original statement -

    [Two things. Of course Rent-A-Center would be turned off by Horry Jr's pitch - the pitch was pejorative. A more accurate statement would have been that (Horry Jr voice) "I can teach you how to align yourself with 'exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L' so you can win a chip." Secondly, the Lakers should have also called in Robert Horry - Horry Jr's mentor.]

  • vicster

    To put it like it is, the Lakers have the best shot at winning a title than any other team in the west. As long as the players stay healthy we got this.
    w

  • MrJoepch .

    Thank you!! Exactly what I say, the Lakers should just move on from this bozo and quit kissing up to him. Kobe did well and I applaud him for it.

  • The Mauve Avenger

    In all honestly, the Lakers screwed up by hiring D’antoni. I’ve been trying to assign the blame to someone or something else all this time ,but I give up. Mike’s system doesn’t fit the Lakers roster, which was evident last season. Players don’t give him a terribly large ammount of respect, historically. Phil would have been responsible for more wins last season and could have easily gotten into Dwight’s soft ,little head and convinced him a title was coming and he should resign with Los Angeles. In Conclusion, I feel no sympathy for the Lakers losing Dwight in free angency, their own pride was their undoing.

  • MrJoepch .

    Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers???

  • MrJoepch .

    Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers??? We should have traded Howard for Blake and Bledsoe in a heart beat.

  • MrJoepch .

    Exactly, Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers??? We should have traded Howard for Blake and Bledsoe in a heart beat.

  • MrJoepch .

    Howard is a drama queen! Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers??? We should have traded Howard for Blake and Bledsoe in a heart beat.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol this is real life, not NBA 2k13

  • shockexchange

    Correction: Horry Jr only won and was only “clutch” when he had “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the L.” Otherwise, not so much.

  • nba fan

    Dwight Howard has the athleticism to be an all time great but he doesn’t have that killer instinct mentality that the greats had

  • MrJoepch .

    Howard is a drama queen and has been for the past 3 years.
    Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers??? We should have traded Howard for Blake and Bledsoe in a heart beat.

  • MrJoepch .

    Drama Queen Howard? LOL Kobe the NBA God Father = Action Pack movies (Heat, Hard to Kill, The God Father) Dwight Howard is more of a Titanic, find Nemo type in other words very sensitive. Really??? Do we want a Diva to play for the Lakers??? We should have traded Howard for Blake and Bledsoe in a heart beat.

  • Chino

    Let his ass go , I’m tired of these drama queen dudes wanting to have a special report on where there gonna play . Be a man and let the world know where u want to play and play

  • Lloyd

    I understand what section I clicked on, thanks for the caps though.

    How is seeing this rumour as just another tireless article to make Dwight seem more dramatic, indecisive, and overly picky reading it out of context? Seems like you’re just content to accept Dwight’s portrayal by the media in the “Dwightmare”. Last couple off seasons were handled atrociously by him, but this one he hasn’t done much to be hated. People just want him to hurry up and make his decision which he doesn’t owe them at all. It’s not like he’s bringing all this attention to himself, the media is beating a dead horse and making it tirelessly about him with articles like this.

    I’m not knocking SLAM. I understand the rumour mill is a big part of the off season, but realistically reporting every time Dwight wipes his ass makes the public hate him more and they treat him like he’s hoarding all this attention for himself. He’s actually handled it pretty good this off season but the media and the fans want him to be the Dwightmare he was last year.

    And reading rumours is fine and dandy, but again, some random guy says he thinks he knows how Dwight Howard feels about whatever the topic is seems pretty lazy to me. Make an effort in general.

  • Dom

    Lol the headline says Dwight IS turned off by what kobe said, the last line says he WILL be meaning as of right now he isn’t. So the yitle is misleading because Dwight isnt turned off by Kobe but only that people speculate he will be.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    This is how Dwight feels. There is another article that says Lakers pessimistic about Dwight. Are you complaining there because its based on “sources” too? .
    The anonymity of “sources” is the whole idea behind getting them to remain “sources” – outing a source puts undue attention on a person who probably will be able to keep relaying information in the future. .
    If you don’t like it that’s fine, but there is nothing misleading about this headline. It’s just a rumor, a heavily supported rumor.

  • NinjaRoach

    You said, “hard on”.

  • robb

    It’s almost as if Kobe did it on purpose. Maybe he doesn’t really want DH in LA. Honestly I don’t want him either. I don’t care if the Lakers win less games without him ( I doubt it) I don’t like that guy and I don’t think he can be the future of any franchise. Please leave Kevin Willis 2.0

  • Lorne

    I concur. Dude is a fool but he’s funny. At least it’s clear that he’s not a total moronic fanboy. I think he’s at his funniest when cats get all emotional over his comments.

  • James The Balla

    Shock exchange, you are a handicap, correct? Before Pau was traded, the Lakers were atop the western conference…
    You are the reason why SLAM fans like myself, who were with SLAM since magazine one, don’t post on this site anymore. You are ______ retarded. Your only logic is to p1ss everyone off and troll every post. Please, for all of our sake, quit SLAM and go to the gym or do something productive for society!

  • Basketball_iQ

    Me, myself, I didn’t need a source to determine that d12 wouldn’t like those words in that order from kobe bean Bryant,,,, lol.
    It just came out last summer kobe said he was soft and would never be Shaq,,, do you truly need verification that dwight didn’t like these statements?
    Sometimes the source is the players themselves but they are protecting PR, image, and face like when cp3 didn’t like the franchise releasing he wanted del Negro out of there,,, same thingin my eyes *shrugs*

  • Dagger

    You mean the most talented team won championships? Welcome to the NBA.

  • josiah tru

    My thoughts exactly… Sign and Trade Howard for Blake Griffin and Eric Bledsoe… Amnesty MWP or release him and trade Gasol to the Timberwolves… Gasol and Meeks for Pekovic, Kirilenko, and Derrick Williams…
    Starting 5 for the New Look Lakers
    C: Nikola Pekovic
    PF: Blake Griffin
    SF: Derrick Williams or Andrei Kirilenko
    SG:Kobe Bryant
    PG: Eric Bledsoe

    The Lakers Bench
    C: Jordan Hill
    PF: Chris Copeland (FA Aquisition)
    SF: Derrick Williams
    SG: OJ Mayo (FA Aquisition)
    PG: Steve Nash

    Reserves Role(s):
    PF: Ryan Kelly
    SF: Lamar Odom

  • Lloyd

    Like I said, the likely truth of the article doesn’t matter to me. The thing is that this no named source isn’t claiming that Dwight said this, he just says, “I think he won’t like it”. Again, that’s like basing an article on your or my opinion and posting it up, and it would have the same credibility because there is no way of knowing how close this source is to Dwight.

    What is the point of it? It just voices what everyone is thinking with still no real support for it. It’s not really saying anything and is just used to smear Dwight even more than he has been. Like I said before, I don’t think he’s done anything that bad this off season. The media and fans are just content to make him the villian of free agency again when it really seems like he’s not trying to draw the attention/ire of the world to him. Articles like this does and makes it seem like that was Dwight’s intention, making him hated adding fuel to the “self centred drama queen” image that he’s trying to get away from.

    The fact that it’s a lazy rumour is just an added annoyance.

  • ALLSPORTS

    LET him GO>GO>GO the Lakers will win a championship again before he do . Lakers NEVER had to kiss someone A$$ to play for them so why start now

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The source is Chris Broussard dude. Where he got it from, be it Dwight or someone else is the issue. But you won’t ever get that info about anyone. It’s always someone saying the player said. If the player actually says it, then well, he’s an idiot. That would kill some of his leverage. As a person who pays a business professional, it’s unlikely you will ever see an NBA free agent do that. Look at the article from the proper perspective that it belongs in, no reason to get upset. It’s pointless to read articles if you want it any other way. You’ll never get it.

  • Conor

    Remember when Howard conceded to the Spurs by fouling out & Bryant left the training room to be with the team instead?

    Speaks volumes. It would obviously be best to retain Howard, but his present intelligence & focus are below the requisite criteria for what composes a champion.

    I think he’ll stay, as reported by Chris Palmer.

  • The Philosopher

    Wait…
    You told me that I was the reason people quit SLAM.
    Now, it’s Shock?
    I’m confused.

  • OfftheWall87

    Same dude who heard Kobe on the phone say that he could be his Tyson Chandler. Same dude who was told to play through pain during the season by Kobe. Same dude who enjoys having fun during games and smiling all over the place while Kobe wants him to be more serious. You think it’s just speculation that Dwight was turned off by Kobe telling him that he will have to play behind him and listen to him? Don’t be silly.

  • robb

    I think he’ll be signing with the Rockets. They have a good team and he’ll feel more comfortable playing for a smaller market under a more relaxed atmosphere.

  • MrJoepch .

    Bye Bye Drama Queen Howard :)

  • MrJoepch .

    You sound like a brown nose Howard LOL

  • shockexchange

    LOL. He changes he story so much he should change is avatar to “Zimmerman.”

  • MikeC.

    I’m just in the cut here enjoying the banter. I find you amusing. I truly enjoy when you go 3rd person. You have demonstrated true basketball knowledge in the past, so I know that this exchange is just you flexing your inner d!ckhole. I also enjoy arguing for the sake of the argument, but my favorite part is when people get wildly bent out of shape over an Internet tete a tete.

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange is simply jabbing them. They really wanna get deep into any real basketball discussion on here cause he’s holding “that fiddy” at the ready. Notice how they all get emotional and start with the name calling when they start losing an argument.

  • MikeC.

    I’ve been around since grey page and peops were called Linkstigators around here. There have been worse than 3rd-party Shock and his Horry Jr routine. I take it as a type of comedy.

  • MikeC.

    In their defense, when your logic goes circular, it is hilarious for me and I assume infuriating for them. I took critical thinking and debating in school as part of my minor. I recognize “jackass for the sake of jackass” when I see it. Have fun.

    Irony of irony: Nas Hate Me Now just came on Slacker Radio.

  • BigJay

    Miami wasn’t the most talented team the past 2 years. They just have the best player in the world and good complementary players. Wade hasn’t been healthy in the playoffs the last 2 years

  • BigJay

    The East was weak and their other competition was The LeBrons. Rashard Lewis and Turkoglu both woulda been Cleveland’s 2nd best player

  • BigJay

    It all comes down to talent and the Lakers don’t have the most talent. Maybe a big FA takes them back to that level but the Lakers have gone thru periods of sucking. Between Magic and Shaq there were some real lean years in LA.

  • Connector

    The story was leaked from someone at the meeting. That has been on ESPN all day. You guys just don’t get it. Howard does not like Kobe’s attitude. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that out. Kobe is a cancer to the team. No one wants to play on the same team with him. If he doesn’t get at least 35 touches per game he broods. It’s all about him!!!

  • shockexchange

    Agreed. But it’s clear that some of it’s “tongue-in-cheek.” But what kind of response does someone expect when someone argues that (i) Horry Jr stated he was leaving after the Lakers started losing and (ii) when Gasol came – one of the premier big men in the L – he decided to stay. When The Shock Exchange states facts and people simply argue for the sake of arguing or deny the truth, then they are asking for it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    I don’t get it? Are you venting about everyone else in response to me? I’m so confused.

  • Connector

    No, you got it right, nbk! It’s the other commenters that are confused. They’re hung up on how the article was written rather than what really happened.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com/ Off The Backboard

    Love Kobe, but that was a stupid pitch.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Word, No doubt man.

  • initbruv

    These dudes take talking basketball too seriously. You joke with them a bit (or say something they disagree with) and they start losing their cool and resort to schoolyard name calling. F*ck it, you wrote a book; they wrote on a comment board.

  • shockexchange

    Well said. The Shock Exchange has been commenting on this site since LeBron was in high school. Back then you really had to bring it though. There wasn’t much name calling and you only got recognized if you said something witty or intelligent. Now the site has become more popular but it seems more like social media – facebook friends who blindly co-sign each other. It’s symptomatic of the new generation.

  • initbruv

    That’s true. The worst part to me though is the hyper-emotional tone of too many people on these comment boards. Political sites are the absolute worst. Just a bunch of people acting in a way that would be unacceptable face to face-name calling, ad hominems, all caps (screaming). It’s disgraceful. We’ve managed to increase dialogue while simultaneously degrading discourse. Anyways, keep doing what you’re doing…keeps things fresh around here.

  • Hundreds

    It really doesn’t matter where that big ass cry baby goes he’ll always be unhappy. I see this way he’s his own problem. He couldn’t win with Orlando, Lakers and he’s damn sure not gonna win with Houston. Let the Rockets deal with all of the whining and complaining from Baby Huey.

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  • Laker104

    As a Laker fan. We need better big man but we don’t need someone who will make the franchise as beggar of desperate housewives. Lakers can take big names and talented players no need to beg this drama queen to stay. We love Lakers but we hate this stupid banners in hotel and staples center. We can consider this coming season as scouting season.We are next expecting a trophy for 2014 but 2015 season should be big.

  • Laker104

    As a Laker fan. We need better big man but we don’t need someone who will make the franchise as beggar or desperate housewives. Lakers can take big names and talented players no need to beg this drama queen to stay. We love Lakers but we hate this stupid banners in hotel and staples center. We can consider this coming season as scouting season.We are not expecting a trophy for 2014 but 2015 season should be big.

  • David

    Well for all the Laker fans this is the end! This is the way Jim Buss will destroy the Laker franchise! I’ll bet if Phil Jackson was coach or they announced that he’d be coaching then Howard would be staying! D’Antoni is the worse possible fit for the Lakers!He’s a Non-Defensive themed coach who couldn’t handle Carmelo Anthony in NY! If a team is going to win a championship at sometime in the game you have to make a defensive stop!!! Well he finally did,he stopped the Lakers from winning!! Let’s see what the excuse is after next season?? Do us all a favor Buss,sell the team!!

  • Lloyd

    Isn’t Chris Broussard reporting what the source tells him, not him being the actual source itself? But regardless, that’s the thing…the article doesn’t even say that Dwight said it to those around him! It says that some guy who may or may not be close to Dwight thinks that Dwight wouldn’t like it. That’s what the headline is based on…but like I said, the lazy article isn’t the most annoying part.

    I specifically said that it’s just a pointless article to make fans hate Dwight even more. There’s no meat in it, but just serves to add to this media created Dwightmare of this post season. Do you not see the problem there? Fans will moan and groan that they’re tired of hearing about Dwight waiting to choose, but fluff pieces like this are what they’re tired of. Dwight didn’t make any of this about him this off season, the media did and articles like these are a prime example of why Dwight is getting the ire of fans for it. It ain’t right. At least if you’re going to tirelessly make it about him to the point of him being undeservedly the focal point of the hatred, have some decent obsessive articles rather than this.

  • GroverSage

    ……and you prove my point. Need an explanation, boy?

  • mak

    Sources say Dwight was apparently, reportedly, perhaps, some say, might be…..
    Remember when sports writers were just that? Writers? I mean you dont have to be Norman Mailer or even Sam Smith, even Espn early on was “writing”, and Slam with Lang and Scoop back in the day.

    this is just junk….some crap a teenager with a nba pass posted. Ive had facebook posts with more authority.

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